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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 15:01 29 January 2026 FACBot (talk) 23:05, 29 January 2026 (UTC).
2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships
2025 World Figure Skating Championships is well on its way to Featured Article. This is the most recent installment of the U.S. National Championships, and I was lucky enough to attend in person. The competition results are all sourced and documented, the tables are properly formatted, the background and history have been extensively re-written, the sources are properly formatted and archived where possible, and relevant photographs are used. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or comments, and I look forward to any constructive input.
Pinging User:Hawkeye7 and User:TheDoctorWho, who both reviewed this article in July. It was not promoted then due to lack of participation, not because of any inherent problems with the article. I still stand by the quality of this article, and hopefully will be able to wrangle a few more eyes this time. 😉 Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Support promotion. My previous review also included a source review. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! I am copying over the text of your source review from Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships/archive1. None of the sourcing has changed between then and now. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:30, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
Hawkeye7's source review from July 2025 |
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Source review - pass
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:19, 22 July 2025 (UTC) User:Hawkeye7: Thank you for taking the time to do the source review! I believe I have addressed all of your concerns. Please let me know if you have any other feedback or suggestions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:55, 22 July 2025 (UTC) |
Comments from ErnestKrause
Some comments to get things started:
(1) There seem to be a great number of redlinks for the names of competing skaters. I've noticed that this also happened for previous years of these Championships. Are all there redlinks needed? I'm also aware that its difficult to predict which skaters will excel in the future in order to get their own pages eventually; are all the redlinks fully necessary?
- I don't think it's an unreasonable number of redlinks. The standard seems to be about five years, after which point if they haven't established themselves as noteworthy skaters by then, it's unlikely they ever will. Also, it's easier to remove a redlink than it is to go back and add a blue one.
(2) Fairly comprehensive prose throughout in the various sections, and well written prose.
(3) The closing section on the Crash seems to be both responsibly and respectfully written. The linked article is also comprehensive. It would still be nice to see the reflective comments made by both President Trump and by the Pope from the Vatican added in short form. Nothing more than a sentence or two added at the end would be useful.
- The Pope and Donald Trump have absolutely nothing to do with this competition and anything they might have said would be grossly out of place. That would more appropriately belong in the 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision article.
That should get things started. ErnestKrause (talk) 21:12, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Ernest, your two concerns have been addressed. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:30, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Gog the Mild: Thanks for contacting me about this. My request was that Bgsu98 acknowledge condolences from President Trump and the Pope extended concerning this tragedy for one of the worst disasters in American sports for the last decade, which he has called "grossly" inappropriate. That seems to be on the cold side of things for me and not in the best service of the article, and without his acknowledging condolences in this article (only a 20-30 word edit) extended to the families suffering from these losses, then I should probably recuse myself from further review. ErnestKrause (talk) 22:13, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
- The "cold side of things" might be blaming the accident on "diversity in hiring" with zero information about the cause of the crash, or when asked if he planned on visiting the accident site, saying something along the lines of, What am I supposed to do, go swimming? Donald Trump belongs on this article as much as I belong in the Miss America Pageant. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:23, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Gog the Mild: Thanks for contacting me about this. My request was that Bgsu98 acknowledge condolences from President Trump and the Pope extended concerning this tragedy for one of the worst disasters in American sports for the last decade, which he has called "grossly" inappropriate. That seems to be on the cold side of things for me and not in the best service of the article, and without his acknowledging condolences in this article (only a 20-30 word edit) extended to the families suffering from these losses, then I should probably recuse myself from further review. ErnestKrause (talk) 22:13, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Ernest, your two concerns have been addressed. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:30, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
User:ErnestKrause raised his objection over at User talk:Figureskatingfan rather than here. For the record, it was any mention of Donald Trump that would be grossly out of place (and inappropriate) on this article, considering the insensitive, tone deaf, and prejudicial statements he made following the accident. The bottom line is this article is about a figure skating event, albeit one with a sad coda, and any response to the accident beyond the scope of the skating community is out of place here and would be more appropriate at the 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:03, 12 January 2026 (UTC)
Figureskatingfan comments
Another stellar article from Bgsu98. I know that they've asked the coordinators to close this nom, but I give it my enthusiastic SUPPORT.
A few comments that won't affect anything:
- I agree that the prose is well-done and I agree that the section about the plane crash is respectful and also well-done.
- It's unfortunate that there are no pictures of Efimova and Mitrofanov, which also affects several other articles. SpiritedMichelle will be at Nationals in St. Louis next week as a photographer for WikiPortraits, and I'm sure they'll get some, so make sure that you add them once they're downloaded on Commons. Just a suggestion. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:41, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
User:Figureskatingfan: I’ve changed my mind about yanking this article (again). BTW, there is a picture of Efimova and Mitrofanov. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:45, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oh good! Best of luck with this FAC and moving forward. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 02:37, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
Addendum from Bgsu98
I am copying over the text of User:TheDoctorWho's review from Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships/archive1. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:55, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
TheDoctorWho's review from July 2025 |
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TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:37, 28 July 2025 (UTC) User:TheDoctorWho: Thank you for your feedback. I have implemented your suggestions. Let me know if I formatted that quote properly. I'm not used to using either of those templates. Thank you! Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:11, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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TheBritinator (image review)
Doesn't look like an image review has been done yet, I'll get on that soon. TheBritinator (talk) 21:51, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- File:2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships.png - Fair use with rationale. tick
- File:Ilia Malinin 2024 Worlds Short Program 4.jpg - Own work CC SA 3.0 tick
- File:Amber Glenn during the short program at the 2024 Grand Prix de France.jpg - I can't find the specific image but all images there are CC SA 4.0 so looks good tick
- File:2014 Skate America - Madison Chock & Evan Bates - 06.jpg - CC SA 3.0 with VRT tick
- File:Alisa Efimova & Misha Mitrofanov 2025 Worlds Short Program 05.jpg - Own work CC SA 4.0 tick
All images check out. Alt captions are maybe a bit short but I don't see it as an issue. All images are at an adequate resolution to be visible. It all looks good to me, so I'll support. TheBritinator (talk) 22:06, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- User:TheBritinator: Thank you so much for your time! Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:52, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Per the FAC instructions, please avoid using graphics. They overload the system and have on occasion caused it to fail. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:47, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
For the coordinators
@FAC coordinators: This article has received three supports, one of which includes a source review, plus an image review. Are you good with me submitting my next article? Thank you so much. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:53, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bgsu98, the nomination currently has two general supports. Your copying over TheDoctorWho's comments on and support for the previous nomination does not constitute a support for this nomination. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:45, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bgsu98, now you can start a second nom if you wish. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:58, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
- Gog the Mild: We're past that point. ;) Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:03, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
- Ah yes! I forgot. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:10, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
- Gog the Mild: We're past that point. ;) Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:03, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
- Bgsu98, now you can start a second nom if you wish. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:58, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
MCE89
Putting down a placeholder for a review as promised. My editing time on weekdays is pretty limited at the moment, so apologies if it takes me a little while to get to this. MCE89 (talk) 11:00, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
@MCE89: I'm not good with the time differences, but is it the end of the work week in Australia? It's Friday morning here! I appreciate any help you can provide here, and thank you again! Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:24, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- In the "Changes to preliminary assignments" section, I'd suggest adding a brief sentence to link the prose to the table — at the moment the fact that the preceding sentence refers to "the initial list of entrants" means that it took me a little while to work out that the table wasn't the initial list of entrants. I'm thinking of something roughly along the lines of "Five changes to the initial list of entrants were announced in the lead-up to the competition" Done
- "the theme of the rhythm dance this season" — suggest changing "this season" to "for the 2024–25 season" or similar Slight change to "for this season"
- "Only Nathan Chen has won a U.S. Championship title by a greater margin" - this statement risks becoming dated. You could consider tweaking the tense to specify that this was true at the time of the 2025 championship Done
- "rallied back with a spectacular free skate" - don't think we should refer to the performance as "spectacular" in wikivoice Added quotation marks since that word was used in the source
- "Only Kimmie Meissner won" - similar to my earlier comment, suggest changing to "had won" to specify that this was true at the time of the victory Done
- "delivered a stunning free skate to win the junior women's title" - again, don't think we should refer to the performance as "stunning" in wikivoice Done
- "Von Felten had made history the year before" - "made history" doesn't feel like a neutral phrasing I think I used it because it echoed what she had said about making history; nevertheless, I altered it to "set a similar record".
- "including Ilia Malinin, Amber Glenn, Madison Chock and Evan Bates, Alysa Liu, Nathan Chen, Scott Hamilton, and Johnny Weir" - optional, but grouping Chock and Bates together in this list interrupts the flow a little - suggest just listing them separately with a comma in between Done
@MCE89: Thank you so much for taking the time to review my article and for your suggestions. I believe I have implemented them all. Please let me know if you need anything else. Bgsu98 (Talk) 07:09, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hi MCE89, how is this one doing? Is there more to come? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:49, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
- Looks good to me! Support on prose. MCE89 (talk) 10:28, 29 January 2026 (UTC)
Comments
- "Andrew Torgashev won the silver medalist" - he won the medal, not the medalist
- He sure did not!
- " after two excellent performances" - excellent according to whom? We should not be saying in WP's voice that they were excellent
- Slightly reworded to clarify who found the performances spectacular.
- That's all I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:13, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
@ChrisTheDude: Thank you so much for taking the time to examine my article! Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:35, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:31, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:01, 29 January 2026 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.