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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 13:12 30 December 2025 FACBot (talk) 23:05, 30 December 2025 (UTC).
Donkey Kong (character)
One of the video game industry's oldest mascots, who's gone from a construction-site menace to a banana-obsessed oaf to a... professional boxer. Though he's frequently overshadowed by his frenemy, Donkey Kong still manages to steal the spotlight from time to time (most recently, this past July, when I coincidentally brought the article to GA). I brought the franchise article to FA at the beginning of the year, so I think it'd be fitting to cap it off with the character himself. Hope you enjoy! JOEBRO64 10:20, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Cukie Gherkin, FunkMonk, Pokelego999, and Gommeh: thanks for the comments. A bit busy irl but I should reply/address all points by the end of Saturday. JOEBRO64 20:59, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
Image review
Here shall be an image review from me! Arconning (talk) 15:45, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- File:Donkey Kong character.png - Fair use
- File:Cranky Kong.jpg - Fair use
- File:Shigeru Miyamoto at E3 2013 1 (cropped).JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
- File:Donkey Kong design evolution.png - Fair use
- File:Grant Kirkhope by Gage Skidmore.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Seth Rogen at Collision 2019 - SM0 1823 (47106936404) (cropped).jpg - CC BY 2.0
- File:King Kong 1933 Promotional Image.png - Public Domain
- File:Monster Jam - 2008 - Tacoma, Wa (3453973810).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
- All of the images have appropriate alt-text for accessibility, all have proper captioning and are relevant to the article.
- Happy to give a pass for the image review!
Source review (172/172 reviewed)
Starting a source review. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:20, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Doesn't identify him as appearing in most Mario Kart or Party games (rephrase to just saying he appears in these series unless a source can be found to say he's in most of them)
- / Minor note: doesn't specify it ended in 2000, just that it ran for two seasons and began in 1997. Can you cite the 2000 date, or say that it started in 1997 and ran for two seasons?
- What is this being used to cite in this sentence? "Mario and Princess Peach seek the Kongs' help to stop Bowser from invading the Mushroom Kingdom. The Kongs agree to help after Mario defeats Donkey Kong in an arena fight." I may be overlooking something. Also, this source is listed on the inconclusive discussions portion of the Video game WikiProject sources page. I believe that it has demonstrated reliability, based on its association with NBC News as its parent and staff having experience, but I would recommend opening a discussion to move it from inconclusive. Same with this source:
- I removed it, I think I included it in this article by mistake while transferring references from my work on Donkey Kong. All the information comes from the movie cite so it's not needed. If you want a secondary source for that info I'm more than willing to provide one. JOEBRO64 12:42, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- The source identifies the publisher as Fleetway Editions
- / These sources don't exactly convey that the criticism was "scathing"
- "Other names considered included "Kong Dong" and "Kong Holiday"." Looking at this, either or could support this sentence by itself.
- Riedel Software Productions isn't mentioned specifically
- You're looking at the wrong source, this is cited for the statement about the Sega game. This is the source cited for the CD-i game and it mentions Riedel. JOEBRO64 11:02, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- My bad, I must have gotten them mixed up and forgot to close that tab. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 04:32, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- You're looking at the wrong source, this is cited for the statement about the Sega game. This is the source cited for the CD-i game and it mentions Riedel. JOEBRO64 11:02, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- this source has me pondering. I've used PopMatters in the past, though it's not listed as a reliable source anywhere that I can see. Looking at the site more deeply, I'm not seeing a super strong editorial process laid out, and the author of the article, Erik Kersting, does not seem to be particularly noteworthy. Yet, a PopMatters article by Kersting does get referenced in the book "Ludonarrative Synchronicity in the 'BioShock' Trilogy". Looking at other articles, I find that people who do have experience submit articles (Ana Clara Ribeiro, who also writes for PopMatters, writes for Rolling Stone Korea, for instance). On the other hand, the EIC's experience seems to be limited to PopMatters.
- The PopMatters EiC, Sarah Zupko, is a former executive at Tribune Media, which published RSs such as the Los Angeles Times and Chicago Tribune. In terms of WP:USEBYOTHERS I'm seeing PopMatters cited by multiple peer-reviewed academic journals, such as Culture and Organization, Popular Music and Society, Journal of Gaming & Virtual Worlds, and Journal of American Culture. In addition it's been cited by NYTimes and one of its editors has written for Mythlore, a peer-reviewed journal. JOEBRO64 12:37, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, that's great, I'd have hated to have to remove the ones I've added. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:47, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- That being said, you should still make sure to update the credit for PopMatters, as according to the archived version, it was written by Erik Kersting. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:15, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- The PopMatters EiC, Sarah Zupko, is a former executive at Tribune Media, which published RSs such as the Los Angeles Times and Chicago Tribune. In terms of WP:USEBYOTHERS I'm seeing PopMatters cited by multiple peer-reviewed academic journals, such as Culture and Organization, Popular Music and Society, Journal of Gaming & Virtual Worlds, and Journal of American Culture. In addition it's been cited by NYTimes and one of its editors has written for Mythlore, a peer-reviewed journal. JOEBRO64 12:37, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- I recommend adding this; as someone in the community, I can definitely say that Kirkhope saying "trans rights" as DK was a "big deal" lol
Citation checking
Not sure how FACs handle page redirects like this. Anyway, I've looked through, and I didn't see any citation mismatches.
Valnet
Per WP:VALNET, sources published by Valnet should be met with heightened scrutiny, although they have been found to be acceptable on a case-by-case basis in past FACs. In the article, three Valnet sources are used, all from the website "TheGamer". Analyzing the three used, I've been able to identify that they are written before AI concerns regarding Valnet websites emerged, and all authors have been published in sources that we consider reliable (Adam Starkey: Rolling Stone UK, Stacey Henley: The Guardian, George Foster: RPGSite). As such, while non-Valnet sources are preferred and thus they are all at best situational, I find that these are acceptable articles to cite in an FAC. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:12, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
Other comments
- While this is typically being followed, one sentence has the refs in the wrong order: "Miyamoto provided some suggestions"
- Strongly recommend running the IABot to archive, as many are not archived.
- I took care of the archiving :) ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 21:42, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- There was the PopMatters article that had the author changed to PopMatters staff; I can't recall if any other articles are attributed to just staff off the top of my head, but if there are, double check that they weren't formerly attributed to one or more specific people.
- Hi Cukie Gherkin, is this a pass for the source review? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:26, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for the confusion; I meant my support in the review to clarify that I am confident that the citation info, reliability of sources, and accuracy of the article are all up to par for a featured article. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 23:35, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
Review by User:Cukie Gherkin
Planting this here - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:21, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
Character
- "Country recast Donkey Kong as the protagonist.[1] He has been portrayed as heroic since, though he occasionally appears as an antagonist, such as in Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2004).[11]" I feel like this could be made into one sentence for better flow? Maybe something like "He was recast as a protagonist starting with Country, though he occasionally appears as an antagonist, such as in Mario vs. Donkey Kong.
So, by and large, on doing my source review and reading through the article, any points I may have are points brought up and addressed in other reviews. I'm comfortable supporting it being a featured article. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 05:51, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Review by Pokelego999
I will leave comments here sometime within the week, hopefully shortly. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 22:25, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- I feel it would be helpful to clarify that Cranky is in fact the Arcade DK in the lead since otherwise Cranky's presence in the lead may be confusing.
- "after Nintendo was unable to obtain the license" Clarify this was for the 1981 DK game.
- Is there anything relevant on Donkey Kong 3? It seems odd that that game in particular is skipped in the "Appearances" section.
- "The Donkey Kong franchise was mostly limited to spin-offs such as Donkey Konga and Mario vs. Donkey Kong." This sentence feels a bit out of place in comparison to the other sentences in the paragraph, especially since the following one talks about Donkey Kong's various main series roles. I'd either specify a timeframe or place this more toward the end.
- The paragraph is about how Donkey Kong's appearances within his own franchise became limited after Rare left, I don't see how it's out of place JOEBRO64 20:29, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm giving it another re-read and it seems I misinterpreted this sentence, but it still feels a bit confusing. Why are we going into extensive detail on various crossover cameos while only giving a single sentence to the mention of what's actually going on to the main DK series? The focus seems a little skewed. It makes the chronology a bit confusing when we're hopping from a 2017 appearance to a 2004 appearance to a 1997 appearance in the span of three lines. I'd honestly lead with the mention of the DK series being relegated to spin-offs, then mention the cameo appearances briefly, and then shift the mentions of Retro's revival to the subsequent paragraph where Tropical Freeze is being discussed so the focus is clearer. Right now I feel like it's jumping over the place a bit. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 16:13, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Pokelego999: I did some rearranging. Should resolve it all. JOEBRO64 14:05, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- The development section feels like it would be better framed chronologically, since many aspects of the sections keep hopping back to particular time periods that feel like they'd be more helpful to address chronologically. For example, all of the DKC stuff feels like it'd make more sense to discuss together rather than jumping back to it across multiple sub-sections.
- "although Hardcore Gaming 101's David DiRienzo found their differences mostly superficial" Could you clarify what this means? I'm not sure what's being meant here. Physical superficiality? Gameplay superficiality?
- There are two paragraphs discussing how DK's standing fell post-Country, with one focused on design and the other focused on the reputation. Perhaps this could be altered to refocus to their particular focuses?
Overall a strong article. Let me know when the above are addressed. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:01, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Pokelego999: thank you for reviewing! I've replied above. I didn't reply to the last point because I'm not sure exactly what you mean so I'd appreciate some clarification. JOEBRO64 21:09, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64 I honestly forget what I was trying to say with that one, and on a re-read I don't see a strong issue, so ignore that last point. One minor quibble above but otherwise I think you've addressed my comments well. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 16:20, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64 your change looks good, happy to pass! Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:04, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oop, I got four hours last night and defaulted to my GAN pass statement lmao. I meant to say Support. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:04, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64 your change looks good, happy to pass! Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:04, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- @TheJoebro64 I honestly forget what I was trying to say with that one, and on a re-read I don't see a strong issue, so ignore that last point. One minor quibble above but otherwise I think you've addressed my comments well. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 16:20, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
Funk
- I can't resist DK nominations, so marking my spot. At first glance, there appear to be a few WP:duplinks. FunkMonk (talk) 00:31, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Why does the rather horizontal King Kong image use the upright parameter?
- Could link simians, not a particularly common term. Ah, I see it's linked in the intro, but all terms should also be linked at first mention in the article body.
- Same case for gorilla.
- "Donkey Kong weighs 800 pounds" conversion template for us Euros?
- "and the Tiki Tak Tribe, a race of floating masks" is race really the right term here?
- Changed to "group"
- As Cranky Kong is presented as an older DK, and his name redirects here, this warrants mention in the intro, where the name should be bolded. Don't think bold should be used outside the intro, but not sure.
- Link Shakespeare?
- "and more realistic proportions" What is meant by that? Hard to see how one is more realistic than the other.
- "in the Japanese dub of the The Super Mario Bros. Movie" is the double "the" necessary?
- I think the design or reception sections could mention what a big deal DKC's 3D designs were at the time. Now it seems they're only retroactively slammed, with none of the praise that was actually contemporary.
- You go into a lot of detail about Rogen's voice, but as far as I remember that was also divisive, which could warrant a mention.
- "Robert W. Sweet ruled" Specify judge.
@FunkMonk: apologies for the wait, always a pleasure to see you review! I responded to everything above JOEBRO64 21:01, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
Gommeh
- This is my first time participating at FAC, but I'll do my best to help out.
- There's a link to Shigeru Miyamoto twice early in the conception section - once in the first paragraph and again in the image.
- Not really sure what else to be looking for.
Gommeh 📖 🎮 23:22, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, it's of course helpful to familiarise yourself with the WP:FA criteria when doing a full review. FunkMonk (talk) 00:11, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
Second look through
Intro
- Not sure why but I'm not sure if the last sentence in the first paragraph works well. Then again I haven't played any of the Donkey Kong games so IDK if I can really say much else here in that regard.
the Country series of side-scrolling plaform games
seems a little off to me. I'd say the full name of the series "Donkey Kong Country".- The third paragraph doesn't sufficiently (in my view) explain the connection to Bluto. This may be done in the body, but I'm not quite sure if it's necessary for the lead. I'd either expand on it a little bit or cut it out.
- Wording issue at
Donkey Kong has been listed among the greatest video game characters.
Grammatically it's fine, but it sounds a little subjective. I'd say reword it to say "critics have rated him as [...]" or something similar.
Character
Donkey Kong first appeared as the antagonist of Donkey Kong, a 1981 arcade game; he is Mario's rebellious pet gorilla who kidnaps his girlfriend Pauline and climbs a construction site
. The second part of this sentence is worded awkwardly in a few places. However I think this can be fixed by changing it to "[...] a 1981 arcade game. In the game, he is [...]". Overall though, this is relatively minor.- Just to make sure I understand correctly, is it true that Rare developed Donkey Kong at first? If so, make sure this is clear - most modern readers associate him with Nintendo for obvious reasons.
- Usage of the word "simians" feels a little too erudite - maybe substitute it for a layman's term that means the same thing?
- Why is the sentence about his weight - 800 pounds (360 kg) - relevant? If so, consider using {{Convert}} to also display this in kilograms.
- Why was he cast as a protagonist sometimes and an antagonist other times? Was there any reasoning to this?
he rides vehicles such as minecarts and barrel-shaped rockets
. Not sure why, but I think this could be reworded.- I know you wrote that the Crystal Coconut in the Donkey Kong Country sitcom was a magical artifact, but is there any more information that the reader should know about it? This is minor though.
Development
- In the second paragraph, there should be a space in between the citation to source #66 and the em dash. It looks a little weird the way it currently is.
"Beauty and the Beast" and King Kong influenced the choice.
Why is "Beauty and the Beast" in quotes? I think it should be italicized. Also, both of these should be wikilinked.
Appearances
- Do the sources discuss why he was not playable in Donkey Kong Country 2 and Donkey Kong Country 3?
- It's covered at the Donkey Kong Country 2 article—Rare wanted to surprise players and take a risk. I think it's a bit out of the scope for this article as it has more to do with DKC2's development than it does with Donkey Kong as a character. JOEBRO64 21:05, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
@Gommeh: greatly appreciate you reviewing! I think you did a great job for your first FAC review. I responded to everything above (except the one point about the vehicles he rides, I don't see how it needs to be reworded) JOEBRO64 21:07, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
TGSC
I'll try to throw in my two cents (coins? bananas? banana coins?) next week. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 21:44, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
Lede
- I don't find it necessary to link "character", personally.
- I think it's worth linking as "character" can refer to a lot of different things
- [Donkey Kong] also features in the Mario franchise. I would prefer
also appears in the Mario franchise
oris also featured in the Mario franchise.
- Consider linking antagonist.
Character
- Again, consider linking antagonist here.
- Also consider linking protagonist.
- Donkey Kong also featured in Captain N: The Game Master See my second comment for the lede.
- Donkey Kong also features as a mascot See my second comment for the lede.
- Consider linking spin-offs.
- Journalists have noted Worth specifying Video game journalists?
Development
- Link Nintendo of America?
- Donkey Kong was voiced by the comedian Soupy Sales →
Donkey Kong was voiced by the comedian Milton "Soupy Sales" Supman
?- Soupy Sales was his professional and common name so I don't think including his real name is necessary. JOEBRO64 21:37, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
Reception and legacy
- "grounds for a HR complaint" Consider linking Human resources here.
- Consider linking parody.
- [T]he researcher Sam Srauy argued that Donkey Kong [...] "further set the video game industry on a path dependency toward reifying racism." Should be
the researcher Sam Srauy argued that Donkey Kong [...] "further set the video game industry on a path dependency toward reifying racism".
- Consider linking New York City and livestreamed.
- First one not done per WP:OLINK. Second one not done per WP:SEAOFBLUE. JOEBRO64 22:04, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
References
Miscellaneous
- This is quite a nitpick, but may I recommend alphabetizing the categories?
That's all I really have for you; everything else has already been covered by others' feedback. All the best! ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 16:47, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
- @The Green Star Collector: responded above! Thanks for your patience and taking the time to review! JOEBRO64 20:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you, I'm happy to throw in my support now. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 21:17, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
Coordinator comment
This has been open for four weeks and has yet to pick up a support. Unless it shows considerable signs of moving towards a consensus to promote over the next day or two I am afraid that it is going to time out. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:22, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Just need a couple of replies, then I can support. FunkMonk (talk) 13:39, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Gog, sorry, real life got in the way! Getting around to addressing the remaining points right now JOEBRO64 20:04, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Just making sure I understand the FAC process. Since we have three people who have expressed support (Cukie Gherkin, Green Star Collector and myself) would that be enough to pass this? Gommeh 📖 🎮 20:32, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comments
- Citations: article titles can be in either title case or sentence case, regardless of how they appear in their original, but should all be consistently in one or the other.
- "|author1=Atko |author2=Andy". Should that be '|last=Atko|first=Andy'? Gog the Mild (talk) 19:57, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- No, they're separate authors; Total! didn't attach full names to articles at the time. The Andy in question is Andy Dyer, looking to see if I can find Atko's last name JOEBRO64 02:56, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Atko was Sean Atkins. Their full names turn up elsewhere in the issue, just took me a minute to find them. JOEBRO64 17:54, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: all done! JOEBRO64 17:54, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: Cukie has confirmed the article's passed the source review. Is this good to go? JOEBRO64 23:15, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 13:12, 30 December 2025 (UTC)
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