Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2026 January 13

File:Drone shot of St Ignatius Orthodox Maha Edavaka.png

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: keep. Eligible for move to commons. (non-admin closure) –DMartin (talk) 06:43, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Given the editor's previous history, the file's lack of metadata and the image quality, I believe this is a screenshot from one of the videos on this page. — Ирука¹³ 11:46, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Its not I took it I am from that parish Parabelleum (talk) 11:50, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
Keep and close Uploader claims that it's their own work, and I don't see any reason to not believe that.–DMartin (talk) 06:58, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
Keep for now, depends on outcome of AfD. If article deleted, this should go, too (or maybe transferred to Commons). WidgetKid ^{chat me} 15:16, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
Ready to be moved to Commons, where it can stay regardless of AfD. Closing discussion to allow for move.–DMartin (talk) 06:42, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Dan Vacek, Dennis Schuller, Anthony Walsh, Christopher Seymore, 2024.jpg

The result of the discussion was: Move to Commons Pinging Sennecaster as requested. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:23, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

This file is missing evidence of permission: Wikipedia:VRT noticeboard#File:Dan Vacek, Dennis Schuller, Anthony Walsh, Christopher Seymore, 2024.jpg. — Ирука¹³ 14:23, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

What exactly is the problem here? The photographer released full permissions. (Ticket #2024031910003125). - The Hammer of Thor (talk) 15:21, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

p.s. - The sign in the background of the picture has also been released, by its creator. (Ticket #2024010810009626). - The Hammer of Thor (talk) 15:28, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Keep - Uploader has provided the ticket numbers regarding release of the file for use on Wikipedia. Netherzone (talk) 03:30, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
Link, just in case: click here. George Ho (talk) 04:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Huh. Just found out that the image is discussed at WP:VRTN (old id). George Ho (talk) 08:33, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
Keep per above and Move to Commons. Ahri Boy (talk) 01:27, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
Keep For the reasons I've outlined, above. - :The Hammer of Thor (talk) 04:38, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
Note: Nominator is currently banned from the file namespace following reports of wikilawyering, nominating in bad faith, and other disruptive activities.–DMartin (talk) 08:19, 20 January 2026 (UTC)
Delete according to Glane23 the file has been lacking suitable VRT permission since March 2024, there has been more than enough time for this issue to be resolved. I'm not sure what a reasonable timeline for VRT issues is but with no backlog and this being almost 2 years unresolved it is longer overdue. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:14, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
The closing admin should confirm the VRT status of the file for themselves before closing this. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
@Traumnovelle; Out of the very small group of admins checking FfD with VRT permission access, we're way more likely to act as a VRT agent and weigh into the discussion over closing the discussion. Once you get a response from VRTN, it shouldn't be necessary to have an admin with VRT permissions close FfDs like this. I'm not annoyed, to be clear, but just something to keep in mind since the bus factor is pretty low.

@The Hammer of Thor; I'm not able to disclose details without the permission of the ticket owner, but a question was sent that received no response. Independently of all of this, I have accepted the statement. The question was not necessary for the validation process.

The ticket infrastructure for images is very shoddy on enwiki. Please ping me if there is a move to Commons so I can correct information as soon as possible. Sennecaster (Chat) 05:01, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
@Sennecaster so you are confirming that the permission given is valid? Traumnovelle (talk) 06:38, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
The permission given is valid now, yes. I have added templates as best as I can to the file, which you can view (and also changed the permission templates to match the ticket details). Sennecaster (Chat) 06:52, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- Please explain to me, in English, what's the problem with ticket #2024031910003125? I know the photographer personally. Mr. Farver sent the email release to Wikimedia, and forwarded the number to me, which I attached to the upload. - The Hammer of Thor (talk) 05:21, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

File:Fredrikstad FK logo.svg

The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:40, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

File:Fredrikstad FK logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

This Greenland-like logo of this soccer team is below the threshold of originality and should be moved to Commons. Candidyeoman55 (talk) 07:55, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:42, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

I'd like to see some comparanda here: yes, all the individual elements are simple and geometric, but there are many of them and at first glance I'd say the arrangement represents creative work. I wouldn't be confident in saying it's below TOO. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 10:45, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

More Law & Order cast screenshots

The result of the discussion was: No consensus on season 6 without prejudice against immediate renomination; delete the rest. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:25, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

I hate to list more remaining screenshots of the Law & Order cast, but then, after deletion of two other images, I guess I don't mind deletion (of all the above) if no one else opposes such, especially per WP:NFCC#3a and/or WP:NFCC#8. Otherwise, at least one shall remain if someone favors whichever. George Ho (talk) 21:23, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

On second thought.... (see my "expanded comment") George Ho (talk) 07:20, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Keep one. I would leave the most representative one - maybe the most popular season?

WidgetKid ^{chat me} 04:19, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Hard to tell which season has been the most popular of all time, unfortunately. How about your preferred image instead? George Ho (talk) 06:04, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Oh, and I've yet to list the cast of season one. I might... or might not after this discussion, but let's concentrate on the ones listed here first, especially to contrast with the very first season. —George Ho (talk) 06:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

If at least one must be kept, I'm thinking season six cast and/or season twenty-five cast for now, though I'm unsure whether either of them has been popular amongst most viewers, especially casual and hardcore. Otherwise, (again) I don't mind all deleted. —George Ho (talk) 04:35, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Delete the image is used to illustrate the cast but free images of the cast can be created and I think most of these actors have free images regardless. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:19, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
@Traumnovelle: You're not thinking individual photos of cast members, are you? It's been attempted to death. Look at Friends: dunno who reintroduced a gallery of free photos, but a non-free image was pushed down some time after an FFD discussion on it. BTW, Jerry Orbach has been deceased since 2004, i.e. for at least twenty-one years. The least we can do is a group photo-op of surviving cast members, right? Otherwise, how do we place such free images of those cast members appearing on the series? George Ho (talk) 20:40, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
You can edit a collage/crop the images. There are solutions here that do not involve using non-free media. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:25, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

Delete this group since the uploader doesn't mind the deletions of the rest. I'm open to keeping the season one cast photo, especially since free images of Jerry Orbach are pretty hard/near impossible to find. Side note: merits of the free collage vs an NFC image aside, that cast gallery on Friends has awful formatting, so I hope if people pick to go with galleries that they take more care than that implementation. Sennecaster (Chat) 05:07, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

I'm open to keeping the season one cast photo, especially since free images of Jerry Orbach are pretty hard/near impossible to find.

Orbach's character debuted in season three; he wasn't a permanent cast member in season one. What about the season six cast screenshot, which contains Orbach there? George Ho (talk) 05:26, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

I'll be honest, I don't really know anything about Law & Order, so if we pick the season with the highest overall rating or viewership and want to keep that cast image, I'm fine with that. If you think Season 6 is the most representative of the show in terms of cast, then keep that one for now and delete the rest. Sennecaster (Chat) 05:33, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Uhh.... the twelfth season's average viewership is still the highest to this date at its time of original broadcast (see Law & Order#Broadcast history). That means I should create a cast screenshot of Orbach, Martin, Rohm, and Waterson from season twelve... or thirteen... or fourteen, especially since neither Wiest nor Thompson appear as a cast ensemble walking and chatting.

Of course, the eleventh season was nearly high but still below the twelfth's, but it still has almost the same cast ensemble but with a different female cast member. Unfortunately, I uploaded the screenshots because I want readers to fully grasp various cast changes over the years, but I didn't wanna upload one too many.

Going for the highest-rated season would mean eliminating season one, which has different cast members and didn't have Orbach there.... right? I.e. replacing the season one image with a season 12/13/14 one. Would that do? George Ho (talk) 05:57, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

The sixth season may not have had the highest average viewership to this date, but it was the first season not to display the original cast members walking and talking in one scene. Of course, I'm torn between what the context should be and selecting a season with the highest average viewership. One of reboot seasons shows that the reboot fully abandoned the walking/talking tradition and went for some green screen/graphics-intensive way. George Ho (talk) 06:12, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Hm... This is tricky, and it's getting late for me. My instinct in this all is to defer to you since I don't have familiarity with the media, and from your explanation season 6 seems like the one that provides a balance of context and being sufficiently recognizable. I wonder, could we have a cast article for Law & Order to show all of the changes and provide nice galleryspam in an agreeable way, or would that be more of a fanwiki thing... Sennecaster (Chat) 06:19, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Nom's expanded comment – After talk with Sennecaster, as I'm realizing, the season six image is the best of this nominated group to represent (the context of what) the series (is about) and its cast... but to also contrast with season one's cast. Maybe I don't mind the "delete" on the season six image, but then the context would change if that image is deleted. Also, season twenty-five is much, much different. Personally, I'd like to keep the season twenty-five image, but I don't mind one "delete" vote on it either.
Well, I thought about replacing season 25 image with a good cast screenshot of the twenty-first season, the very first season of the reboot era. Otherwise, the twenty-third season—the very first season without Waterson... well, halfway/midway of it—would be a better alternative candidate. Nonetheless, I dunno a better representation of the Waterson-less reboot cast than season 25. Indeed, one of season 23 images would provide the same context as the season 25 one... or season 24.
Of course, there are other images of cast members portraying a DA, like Steven Hill, but most of them appear on Getty Images, and there's no other way to display Hill as part of a cast ensemble without violating WP:GETTY. George Ho (talk) 07:20, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

The cast ensemble scene of the season 19/20 opening is part of the last season of the series's first iteration. Well, I'm undecided whether that screenshot of the cast is necessary, but the reboot/second iteration changed the ensemble part of opening credits. Still undecided, so I don't mind the season 19/20 image being deleted, though I can't help wonder whether readers would know when the producers exactly changed from traditional actual in-person ensemble scene to icky green screen effects of the cast ensemble. George Ho (talk) 08:10, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

File:Beautiful-liar-1.jpg

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

This image is non-free but is depiction/use is not subject to critical commentary in the article. Its omission is not detrimental to the understanding of the article and therefore, it does not meet the requirements of WP:NFCC >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:09, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nom, esp. WP:NFCCP#1. Also WP:FREER. WidgetKid ^{chat me} 04:27, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

File:Drone shot of St Ignatius Orthodox Maha Edavaka.png

File:Dan Vacek, Dennis Schuller, Anthony Walsh, Christopher Seymore, 2024.jpg

File:Fredrikstad FK logo.svg

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