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File:John Connor T2.webp

The previous image of Edward Furlong's version in Terminator 2 was PRODded and then deleted without contest. Indeed, John Conner is supposed to be a rebel in the now-nonexistent (or previous) timeline. Here, this is a child version portrayed by Edward Furlong, and his post-apocalyptical era hasn't arrived yet. Furthermore, any image of him as a child (i.e. portrayed by Furlong) may no longer be suitable as the lead image. I just can't help wonder why this image is perceived to have met NFCC, especially the "contextual significance" criterion. As far as I'm concerned, this image may be inadequately supported by sourced(?) critical commentary. George Ho (talk) 01:13, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

Sure, let's use an image of adult Connor as the lead image, but move this current image down to the Terminator 2 section instead of deleting it. TalkTuahLunchly (talk) 01:21, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm still unconvinced that this child version needs to be shown, especially to other readers. Since there are no free images of Furlong in 1991, what about other images of him, like File:Edward Furlong 2009.jpg? Sure, the context isn't the same, but we want to avoid appealing to only the fan base and instead try to relate well to general readers, especially those who've not yet watched the franchise or any movie of it. George Ho (talk) 02:09, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

Oh great! You've now added the non-free image into the Edward Furlong article. George Ho (talk) 00:04, 1 July 2026 (UTC)

Keep. "Unfortunately, not all character articles need a lead image, do they?" according to who? I think an image of a fictional character significantly enhances understanding and identifiability of the article. Personally I can't remember the names of movie characters for nothing. That there are multiple versions of a character doesn't mean we can't use any. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:55, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps I should've duplicated my comment (from the below listing of the one-time adult John) comparing John Connor to Bernard Quatermass (which lacks a lead image at this time after FFDs)... instead of The Doctor (after failed attempt on the collage of the incarnations), shouldn't I? (Oh great.... I'm discussing which lead image to choose much more than which non-free content would comply with NFCC, huh?)

That there are multiple versions of a character doesn't mean we can't use any.

It's not merely that. There are free images of various portrayers of this character, in this case, e.g. Edward Furlong himself. Furthermore, "contextual significance" criterion must be also complied as well as not exceeding "minimal number of items". In the case of Bernard Quatermass, no image is suitable as a lead image at this time, and possible free images of various portrayers would replace non-free images, e.g. the guy who appeared in the 2005 version (can't remember the name without looking it up, honestly). George Ho (talk) 20:11, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.

Portrayers of a character is not the character and does not serve as a replacement for an illustration of the character in most cases. It can in some, e.g. with the Fred example I'd say it would, but not a movie character. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:53, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

Ya mean WP:OTHERIMAGE, right? George Ho (talk) 22:55, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

...Well, that certainly is more well suited. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:20, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

File:John Connor 2029.webp

Unfortunately, not all character articles need a lead image, do they? This version of John Connor appeared in only one scene without lines. Also, inadequately supported by critical commentary. The previous image of this portrayer was PRODdded and then deleted for the same reason. Compare this character to Bernard Quatermass, which currently doesn't have a lead image because multiple portrayers haven't lasted much. George Ho (talk) 02:00, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

Wait, I just realized, the Wikipedia page for Fred Figglehorn has an image featuring multiple versions of the character together in one image! Could that work? (You’ll probably say no, however) TalkTuahLunchly (talk) 05:14, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

File:Four faces of Fred Figglehorn.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Pppery (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:10, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

Discovered just now about this collage image. Don't need to detail how it fails WP:NFCC#3a, do I? A free image of Lucas Cruikshank would suit better as a body/section image, not the lead image depicting the character Fred Figglehorn. Nonetheless, I'm wary about how "irreplaceable" this image is. Visually, this web series character appears not much different from the portrayer himself, and there haven't been any other portrayers of the same character... except an animated depiction of the character. George Ho (talk) 05:28, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

Delete: an image of Cruikshank is an easy replacement. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 16:37, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

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File:John Connor T2.webp

File:John Connor 2029.webp

File:Four faces of Fred Figglehorn.jpg

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