Wikipedia:Help desk/Archive 76

This is "The Public Records of the State of Connecticut", labeled in book as "From October, 1776, to February, 1778, inclusive," and described by the website simply as "volume 1, 1776-1778". It's been edited by Charles J. Hoadly, state librarian.

So: If I were to want to cite something to the page four of this, should I cite the legal document, or the physical book? That said, should the reference look like:

• 1776 Conn. Pub. Acts 4
• Charles J. Hoadly, ed. (1894). The Public Records of the State of Connecticut, from October 1776 to February 1778. Vol. 1. p. 4. Retrieved December 6, 2025.

I took the format for the first bullet point from the APA Blue Book, so I'm assuming it's accurate for what I'm going for, I just don't know if it's proper to cite that or the specific book. Or both? Any advice would be great. Thanks. --Golbez (talk) 05:03, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

@Golbez: Technically, Hoadly is not the editor but the publisher. I included the name of the act. Has it ever been repealed? The name of the firm of printers made me chuckle so I put that in as well, but it's probably out of place. You don't need to include the |access-date= parameter for a printed book or journal, it's mostly for {{cite web}}. As far as the specific style goes, I would say it depends on the type of article you are intending to use the cite in. If it's specifically legal, I would go for the APA one, but personally I think it's just a barrier to impress lawyers and keep the general public away. There's always {{Cite act}} but that seems a whole different minefield. I use the vertical layout for my cites, it makes it so much easier to spot mistakes, and there are many opportunities for making them. My attempt:

• "An Act for the Punishment of High Treason and other Atrocious Crimes against the State". The Public Records of the State of Connecticut, from October 1776 to February 1778. Vol. 1. Hartford, Conn.: Charles J. Hoadly: printed by Press of the Case, Lockwood and Brainard Co. 1894.

HTH, MinorProphet (talk) 01:34, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm working on a new/final version of Territorial evolution of the United States, and I was using that act as a reference for the name of the state changing. Thanks for the tip on access-date, that makes sense, especially when dealing with a trusted site like archive.org. As for whether it's been repealed, no idea.

If it were clean to combine the APA with a link to the book, ... that ... that could work, right? Would it be insane to set up a cite-book with the author being "Conn. Pub. Acts", the year being 1776, so I could use {{sfn|Conn. Pub. Acts.|1776|p=4}}... Then it should display as "Conn. Pub. Acts 1776, p. 4", and cleanly then link to the book? wanders off, pondering --Golbez (talk) 02:36, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@Golbez: I've learned the hard way that you should only use cite params for their original and narrowly-defined purpose. The way round this is to use |ref= to create a custom CITEREF: |ref={{harvid|Conn. Pub. Acts|1776|}} and then treat it like an ordinary sfn: {{sfn|Conn. Pub. Acts|1776|p=4}}.
Result: "This is a ref to the famous act."^[1]  :> MinorProphet (talk) 07:08, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I also silently added |ref=none to your original cite, otherwise it complains with an orange warning that there's no associated CITEREF because it's a duplicate. MinorProphet (talk) 07:43, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I uploaded photos that I took about Gillett, CO but never saw them published after my submission a couple of months ago. I checked multiple times and did not see them published. I was wondering why they disappeared into a black hole and were never used. Thank you, Neno1815 (talk) 03:31, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Is this one of yours?

Gillett Coal Bridge TooManyFingers (talk) 03:37, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Neno1815, You've uploaded several photos to Commons, but that doesn't in of itself amount to a submission to add them to the article. I suggest you raise this on the article talk page, or even consider adding one yourself (see Help:Pictures). The article is a bit short to justify a lot of images, but maybe adding one more might be justifiable - I'd go with the historical 'Coal bridge' one, rather than your own photos, which don't really illustrate the town. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:44, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

If there are multiple images on Commons, Neno1815 can add {{Commons category}} at the foot of the Wikipedia article which will link to the category page on Commons (to which I have just added their images). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:03, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

When a Commons category exists for an enwiki article, the cat is usually automatically linked in in the "Tools" menu. No need to add any tag manually. DMacks (talk) 08:28, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

The tools menu is not part of article content; {{Commons category}} is.

That's why {{Commons category}} "is used on approximately 890,000 pages, or roughly 1% of all pages"; including many featured articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:55, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm guessing that this list shows when you contributed your photos. TooManyFingers (talk) 03:45, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

c:Special:ListFiles/Neno1815 may be more convenient. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:08, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks - I'd never seen that TooManyFingers (talk) 21:36, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

can i make wikipedia article about islamic/christian/any other religion scientific foreknowledge

arabic wikipedia has islamic scientifc foreknowledge

• ar:إعجاز_القرآن
• ar:الإعجاز العلمي في السنة النبوية

Stackper (talk) 06:30, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi there, the first article already has an English equivalent, I'jaz. I think Islamic attitudes towards science should be the only page to cover such a topic (in relation to Islam) as I don't see a major difference between the contents of this page and the contents of the Arabic page (second one) to warrant a different article. You can add to this article if you wish, just be sure that it is all sourced to a reliable source, and doesn't offer undue weight to certain beliefs. jolielover♥talk 06:42, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

The former pair are already linked as equivalent, via Wikidata, in their respective interlanguage-links menus (headed "Languages" on the English page). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:03, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

what about bibical scintfic foreknowledge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stackper (talk • contribs) 06:46, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Criticism_of_the_Bible#The_Bible_and_science. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:33, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

hmmm. That has potential for becoming an article. jolielover♥talk 11:09, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Christianity and science is it allowed to add scintific miracles in bible here Stackper (talk) 14:23, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@Stackper Not without a reliable source. The Bible is not a reliable source. Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:20, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@Stackper I do not mean to be insulting: based on your replies here, I am not sure you have the English-language competence to edit the English Wikipedia. A complex and sensitive topic such as this would require a native or fluent level of written English ability, which you are not demonstrating.

There are lots of other language Wikipedias, ones which you may be more comfortable contributing to. qcne (talk) 15:23, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

I would like to create an article, however upon checking there is something called "notability". Is there a tool or process I can use to check whether a business or individual is considered “notable enough” before I start creating a draft article? I want to make sure I’m following the rules correctly and not creating pages that won’t meet the standards. What’s the best way to evaluate notability ahead of time?

Thanks for your guidance. ~2025-39760-98 (talk) 14:18, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately, evaluating notability is one of those things you just have to learn with time, and that's precisely why we don't advise that new editors try to make a new article until they have some experience on Wikipedia.

You can read the general notability guideline for an indication of what we're looking for, and the golden rule for what a good source of notability looks like. Athanelar (talk) 15:26, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Also, for people there's WP:NPERSON and for businesses WP:NCORP Athanelar (talk) 15:26, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-39760-98. A good rule of thumb is to find three strong sources that each meet the criteria set out in WP:GOLDENRULE. If you can find three sources that each meet that criteria then the topic is potentially notable. If you cannot find three sources, then probably not.

There are no tool, it is all judgement based. However, writing a new article is the hardest thing a new editor can do as you will not have experience assessing sources and understanding notability yet. I would recommend spending a few weeks improving existing articles first, in order to gain experience with our policies and guidelines. qcne (talk) 15:26, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I just started getting this "new contribution" section being inserted at the top of my user contributions page.

There's NO WAY this is going to encourage me to use the translation tool to create a new page. Can we please revert this change? Fabrickator (talk) 16:37, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@Fabrickator: Disable "Content Translation" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:43, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I would like to use QRC's in philatelic exhibits to link additional information about the subject matter of stamps being used in the display. Is there any copyright or other considerations that I need to be aware of? I'm just starting to play with the idea, so also wondering about the best way to do this. Thanks. Fred Danes (talk) 23:26, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

@Fred Danes: This is a help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia. Your question appears unrelated to us. Wikipedia does not give legal opinions but see QR code#License. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:59, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

If you want to use QR Codes to link to Wikipedia articles; please feel free—there is nothing we require of you if you do. You may wish to do so by making use of QRpedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering if there is a page that lists the most edited pages in the last 30 days that is not exclusively articles. This can mean Talk pages, Wikipedia namespace pages and that kind of nature. I know there is a page for total amount of revisions for pages from all namespaces, but I’m looking for one that just does last the last 30 days. Interstellarity (talk) 01:50, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Here's the top 1000. Surprise, WP:AIV and WP:ANI still top the list. —Cryptic 02:21, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I hadn't heard of number 3, User:AmandaNP/UAA/Time, before. TSventon (talk) 03:30, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Seems that a bot is updating that page every 10 minutes. I can't see the point of that and maybe the admin User:AmandaNP can tell us why they need it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I got the impression that the time stamps are used by the software that determines when blocked users become unblocked again. But I have no idea how any of that really works. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:51, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I noticed KOXO is in "Silent", please edit change from silent to "Weigel Broadcast Group" licensed last November 26, 2025 by FCC for Portland OR - Low Power TV station. Browncat88 (talk) 20:27, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Please see WP:Edit requests. If you're trying to request an edit to an article, you need to go there and say exactly which article you're requesting the change on, and what change you're requesting (in a simple "Change X to Y" format) Athanelar (talk) 20:41, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

...and tell us where you found that information, so we can include a citation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Here's a remix, Browncat88. If you're requesting an edit to an article, first go to that article. This will have a link labeled "Talk". Click on "Talk". At the foot of that Talk page, start a new discussion thread (just as you have done here), and say exactly what change you're requesting (in a simple "Change X to Y" format), and specify your reliable, published source for that information. -- Hoary (talk) 00:25, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

i have an account.

I need to register it so I can access semi-protection articles to improve them. Gabe1213 (talk) 18:04, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gabe1213 Your account will become autoconfirmed after you have made >10 edits and been registered for >4 days. There is no need to do anything else to expedite access but if you like you can suggest edits on the talk pages of articles in the meantime. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:18, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

ohhhh, I thought it was one or the other. Gabe1213 (talk) 18:22, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gabe1213 Please make sure that all improvements you make, to any article, are accompanied by in-line references to WP:Reliable sources. Semi-protected articles might also be marked as WP:Contentious topics, and for those articles, you need to be especially careful. David10244 (talk) 01:53, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

I need help ,and i need someonethats going to belieave shit that i cant even explian...Look Listen to me...Im a crimanal...im needing help ~2025-39841-71 (talk) 22:14, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-39841-71 This is a help desk for editing Wikipedia, nothing else. Please contact local law enforcement if you are a criminal: we cannot help. qcne (talk) 22:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

But contact a defense attorney first. —Antonissimo (talk) 02:23, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

If you are in the United States, call 988 or txt 988. This is the mental health emergency number, and they can help you or tell you how to get help. Do this now. Do not wait. If you are not in the US, try to search "emergency mental health help" in your browser. -Arch dude (talk) 22:33, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I posted an article "Rousers" and can't tell if it was accepted or in review? Is it stuck in my "sandbox"? Any help would be greatly appreciated?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jeridoconn/sandbox&oldid=1323769504 Jeridoconn (talk) 11:05, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Jeridoconn, and welcome to Wikipedia.

I've added a template to the top of your draft, there should now be an option to submit it for review by clicking the blue button. Happy editing! Nil🥝 11:12, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

could you please tell me how to use wikepedia Lockie148 (talk) 13:42, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @Lockie148. That is a very broad question. Wikipedia is an online encyclopaedia of topics that meet our criteria for inclusion: our articles are mostly free for anyone to edit, as long as the edits comply with our policies and guidelines. Check out Wikipedia:Everything you need to know, an easy way to understand our most important policies.

Did you have any specific questions? qcne (talk) 14:20, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

@Lockie148: If you mean as a reader then there is a search box or search icon at top of pages. See more at Help:Searching. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:00, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Many years ago I created a page for Solatube International. I noticed it is no longer there. Can anyone tell me why? It had plenty of citations. Thanks! Bethmcrae (talk) 14:54, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, if you are referring to the page previously deleted at Solatube it was procedurally deleted for the reason "the article is promotional, all non-promotional content is duplicated in the light tube article". You can request the article to be restored at WP:Requests for undeletion - I would advise requesting a copy be undeleted as a draft, and working on it through the Articles for Creation project as it is likely it would not survive in its current state. CoconutOctopus talk 14:59, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

@Bethmcrae: See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. You were notified at User talk:Bethmcrae#Proposed deletion of Solatube before it was deleted in 2017. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:10, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Currently, Romance peoples is a redirect to Romance languages. I want to begin a move discussion about redirecting it instead to Latins#Latin peoples and regions.

Since all discussion about Romance peoples redirect page has to go on the Romance languages talk page, I attempted to put in the move request using the following (from WP:RSPM#Single page move on a different talk page):

{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}

But I keep getting this message in red letters: "Request to move a single page must be placed on that page's talk or the page its talk redirects to"

I don't understand what's going on... Evaporation123 (talk) 06:26, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

It sounds like you're talking about changing where Romance peoples redirects to. That isn't a page move, but rather something you can bring up at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. Sorry if I've misunderstood your concern! DonIago (talk) 07:29, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

That was it. Thank you for your help! Evaporation123 (talk) 07:58, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome! Happy editing! DonIago (talk) 15:18, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi! For a few days, I am trying to test how an image looks like with the quote, but I am unable to format it properly. Please see Urain Ge and 141 Schools for Peace and suggest if someone has a better idea or template.

A few external examples of how I want it to look like: Thank you! M. Billoo 09:15, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Before solving the technical problem of how, I think it's important to figure out whether it should be done at all. While those do grab reader's attention, I think they are not in keeping with Wikipedia's style-guides, such as MOS:PULLQUOTE and MOS:CAPTION. DMacks (talk) 12:54, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

{{Quote box}} is usually what editors use, but do make yourself aware of the guidelines linked above. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:03, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm sure this doesn't apply to all donors, but personally I am like a beautiful woman: the more I am hounded and urged to do something, the less likely I am to comply. I believe I donated once or twice when I had a bank account with money. I can tell you right now that I'm receiving too many emails asking for donations; and yes I understand that the holidays are likely when you guys do most of your fundraising. Thank you for all your hard work and services, but please reconsider email subject headers like "My 4th attempt to reach you, ___" opening to a face shot of Jimmy staring into my soul. Please by all means forward this to Jimmy if you can/want. There is a bridge and a disconnect between the physical and virtual world; if I were to see a person, some sort of volunteer, outside of a grocery store ringing a bell with a Wikipedia collection bucket, you bet I would put in a few dollars. However when it comes to virtual donations, debit, credit, etc.... I intentionally make it so that I am not tempted to purchase media, subscriptions, engage in micro-transactions, or the consumption of any other sorts of "non-tangible" goods. Thank you for hearing me out. -J ~2025-40057-63 (talk) 16:07, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Us volunteer editors have no control over the Wikimedia Foundation's donation drives. But I can say that a lot of us editors do agree with you. I would recommend feeding back your thoughts to the Foundation directly: donate@wikimedia.org qcne (talk) 16:26, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-40057-63 You can alternatively make your point at User talk:Jimbo and might even get a reply there. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:28, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

4 Star Records

I have posted on the talk page for this article, but suspect from my lengthy experience of such matters, that my query will sit there for months/years without a response. I am not sure if a change to the title of a category needs an admin to effect it. Would some kind soul care to take a look. Many thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:20, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

I have just posted a request for this on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy, based on the simple mismatch between the category name and the main article name. They have nearly 300 such items to get through, but it should happen eventually. Thanks for pointing this out! TooManyFingers (talk) 19:13, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Many thanks for your prompt actions. Much appreciated. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:22, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi - How can I help editing and reviewing articles in Arabic language to make edit suggestions? Since it is my native language.

Thanks in advance. Hesham001 (talk) 01:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Hesham001. You will have to ask on the Arabic Wikipedia, which is its own project, with its own administrators and its own policies and guidelines. English Wikipedia Teahouse hosts have no special knowledge of that project. Good luck, though. Cullen328 (talk) 05:08, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Hesham001 (talk) 23:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm a contributor to the Italian Wikipedia and would like to point out that the title of the entry for Bonconte I da Montefeltro is incorrect, as his name is Buonconte da Montefeltro (it:Buonconte da Montefeltro (conte)). Thank you to anyone who can help correct this and move the page. ~2025-40131-23 (talk) 23:19, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

I have responded on the article talk page. TSventon (talk) 00:23, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi My little sister wants to make an account on Wikipedia but cant since the Wifi at her Starbucks is blocked due to maybe being vandalized by other people. She is in no way wanting to cause any issues, she wants to just have an account made and do whats right for Wikipedia. If there is anything or anyway you can please help this would be very helpful. I do have her email and name and info present if needed, Thanks for your time. P.S. I am new at trying to find the right area to post questions, please be patient. MacLego45 (talk) 04:43, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

does she have internet where she lives?

Piñanana (talk) 04:48, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi Pinanna,

Yes she lives in an apartment that produces internet just like her job. Both spots are blocked due to people not behaving im guessing. She is new to Wikipedia as well and just wants to join like I am as in account. MacLego45 (talk) 04:50, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Let her start an account on Wikipedia with your internet and device

Piñanana (talk) 04:57, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

WP:SOCKPUPPET

Piñanana (talk) 04:59, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

WP:SLEEPER

Piñanana (talk) 05:01, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

we live in the same Apartment complex. I tried with my iPhone, but it says no account can be made due to being blocked by something called disrupted editing. I wouldn't even know where to start on editing. I just like reading and all. She likes to write and do history stuff. She lives next door to me. The Apartment is Hud Apartments so it free internet to all who live here or better way to say its added in the rent. Im just trying to get her an account made like I have done years ago. Sorry to be such a bother, it's just been really strange on how and where to fix an issue. thanks. MacLego45 (talk) 05:02, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

This above my expertise, wait for a more experienced user

Piñanana (talk) 05:07, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

thank you for helping. sorry for any confusion or issues. also what does sockpuppet and sleeper mean. I saw WP: Sleeper and etc. thanks MacLego45 (talk) 05:08, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

if you read them, they might help

Piñanana (talk) 05:11, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

thanks just figured out you can click in them like links. thanks for helping. MacLego45 (talk) 05:15, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Request an account or making an account from other projects (i.e. commons:), since they can be used to login here too. —Opecuted (talk) 05:19, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

The latter not if the local block is set to disable account creation. Last time I checked local blocks with "account creation disabled" not only prevent manually creating new accounts via Special:CreateAccount but also the automatic account creations when you log into a new project for the first time. Victor Schmidt (talk) 12:13, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

want to find Category:User pl-N users that have made contributions in the last month

"needle in a haystack"

Piñanana (talk) 05:33, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I can immediately grab the attention of some of the Polish speakers. If I play some music by Chopin, they'll quickly agree I'm doing it wrong, but disagree among themselves on how best to improve it. (While they discuss that, I'll sneak out the side door.) :)

Unfortunately, this trick might now only work on a small minority. TooManyFingers (talk) 09:29, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@Piñanana: This searches the category by the most recent edit to the user page so it finds some of them but probably also has false positives where somebody else edited the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Sounds like an easy task for someone to do by a Wikipedia:Request a query. DMacks (talk) 13:17, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

en:Aly Khan and pl:Maciej Mielżyński (powstaniec śląski) have related content

there is no pl:Aly Khan

I need to find a en.wikipedian who speaks Polish, to find a pl.wikipedian who understands Polish nobility honorifics and culture and history to clarify pl:Maciej Mielżyński (powstaniec śląski), Sybilla Szczeniowska Sorondo (Sybilla Emilia hr. Mielżyńska h. Nowina), Marek Szczeniowski, and Aly Khan

see: pl:Dyskusja:Maciej Mielżyński (powstaniec śląski)#Sybilla Emilia hr. Mielżyńska h. Nowina

Piñanana (talk) 04:45, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@Piñanana If you want to improve Poland-related content on the English Wikipedia, you can ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland; you will need to be more clear about what you're asking. Any discussions about editing the Polish-language Wikipedia should be held at pl.wikipedia.org, although you should avoid editing or discussing on that project if you don't speak Polish. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:45, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

pl:Wikipedia:Ambasada is available on Polish Wikipedia, for non-Polish-speaking Wikipedians to use (just as we have WP:Embassy for non-English-speakers). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:43, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I know there is a bot for archiving URLs of an article, would you give me its address? Vastmajority20025 (talk) 07:18, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

To view its archive, click on the View History tab at the top of any article. No bot is involved. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:42, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Thats not strictly true, you can set it a bunch of pages and it'll run as a bot. See User:IABot. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:17, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@Vastmajority20025 Which kind of archiving do you mean? Are you looking for an automated way to add archive.org links onto the external links in an article? TooManyFingers (talk) 11:13, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers, I mean a tool that you request that I want to archive URLs of standard wikipedia citation templates of an article (by "standard wikipedia citation templates" I mean like the URL you put in Template:Cite web. My friend said it exists, but didn't know its address—maybe it existed but now it's gone.

No @Shantavira, I don't mean I wanna see an article's history tab.

@Lee Vilenski, I didn't find what I wanted in the bot you gave, but thanks though. Vastmajority20025 (talk) 14:39, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

is the page we are talking about, which is the one you want. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:42, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I did a move to draft by mistake, somebody help me to revert my edit? Sorry for the inconvenience AlphaCore talk 15:03, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I concur with the move to draft, @AlphaCore. I don't think this needs to be reverted? qcne (talk) 15:06, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@User:Qcne The article was created years ago, so, per policy, it can't be draftified after 90 days, right? Awaiting response AlphaCore talk 15:10, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

its not really the same article that was created years ago. Could have just changed it back into a redirect, like it is now. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:15, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you:) I think the draft got a redirect but not the main space one. AlphaCore talk 15:20, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I was wondering if I did this | Edit Request correctly. If not, what could I have done differently? It is the most recent request on that Talk page.

Thanks, Elijah Wilder (talk) 15:42, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Elijah Wilder, the edit request seems clear to me. It points out that in Necrodes, the taxobox states that genus is in family Staphylinidae, whereas the source cited states that it's in Silphidae. Correcting this (maybe after evaluating the source) would require a change in the taxobox template, something I'm not able to confidently do myself. Maproom (talk) 16:18, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Alright. I will undo what I have done so someone else can review it. Based on what I read and saw, I didn't see the part where they asked for X to be changed to Y. Thank you for replying. Elijah Wilder (talk) 16:23, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I've recently been editing a lot of categories. And am slightly confused by the guidelines around including topic categories as elements of set categories.

WP:SUBCAT seems to indicate that elements of subcategories should obey an is-a relationship with the parent category. To me this implies that a set category like Category:Presidents of the United States should include the article George Bush but not the topic category Category:George Bush.

Nonetheless, it seems this guidance is not widely followed. I topic categories being included in set categories all the time. For example check out Category:Counties of Guangxi. It includes several topic categories about the individual counties as subcategories.

Is it okay to remove these topic categories that are erroneously included as part of set categories? Should I bring it up on category talk pages or should I just remove them? For example, was this edit appropriate?: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Qiannan_Buyei_and_Miao_Autonomous_Prefecture&diff=prev&oldid=1326608796 Benboy250 (talk) 17:24, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Basically, I'm asking if WP:SUBCAT's advice here is out of step with practice or if I'm misinterpreting it or if actually its just being incorrectly ignored by editors. Benboy250 (talk) 17:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm not seeing the specific guidance in WP:SUBCAT that you are discussing. Your example sounds like a case of WP:EPONYMOUS, which explicitly makes it up to each topic-area or other local-consensus how to handle it among several common options. DMacks (talk) 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Ok thank you for the info, that's really helpful! Benboy250 (talk) 16:31, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello all. I don't mean to sound too bothersome but the peer review for Dorfromantik (board game) has been dormant for over a month. Without any feedback it's very hard to improve the article so some input would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Chorchapu (talk | edits) 22:23, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

@Chorchapu I'm not familiar with the mechanics of peer review but the request has now been moved to the archive (see Category:October 2025 peer reviews). I don't know whether you can put it back into the active stream or maybe contact the editors who made suggestions by pinging them to the article's talk page and taking it from there. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:47, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I didn't realise that. Well, the advice given was not sufficient for my goal of FA-status so should I open a new peer review? Thanks, Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:50, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I crested a page and now want to delete it how do I do so. Motherwell6 (talk) 00:00, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Motherwell6. Simply add the code snippet {{Db-g7}} to the top, and an admin will come along to delete it in due course. qcne (talk) 00:04, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

I recently made the article Seloam Lake, and want to list in on List of Lakes of Nova Scotia. The lake crosses both Halifax County and Guysborough County, so where do i put it? TIA, Versions111 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Both? Athanelar (talk) 18:25, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, both Halifax County and Guysborough County^[1] Versions111 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

No, as in, you should put it in both. Athanelar (talk) 01:31, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

*{{cite book |last1=Wecter |first1=Dixon |title=The Hero in America: A Chronicle of Hero-Worship |date=1941 |publisher=Charles Scribner's Sons |location=New York |oclc=516153 |url-access=registration |url=https://archive.org/details/heroinamericach00wect }} {{isbn|9780684129938 }}

|isbn=9780684129938

|isbn=0684129930

causes an error

{{cite book |last1=Wecter |first1=Dixon |author1-link=Dixon Wecter |title=Sam Clemens of Hannibal |date=1952 |publisher=[[Houghton Mifflin]] |location=[[Boston]] |via=[[archive.org]] |url=https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.235563/ |language=en}} {{open access}}

|url-access=free

|url-access=open

causes an error

Piñanana (talk) 01:06, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

@Piñanana: I'm not sure what you are trying to do or say. If you mean that those isbn parameters cause the error message "ISBN / Date incompatibility" if they are inserted in the template call then it's because the book with that isbn was apparently published in 1963 and not 1941. Dixon Wecter died in 1950 so maybe he wrote it in 1941 but the isbn number should match the publication year. The only valid values for |url-access= are subscription, registration, limited. Maybe you saw free at WP:URLACCESS but that is under access indicator for named identifiers. Click the link to see the meaning of named identifiers. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:40, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

The copy of The Hero in America that you link to, Piñanana, wasn't even published as early as 1963 (let alone 1941), as its copyright page tells us "Copyright © 1972 Robert Penn Warren". Providing an ISBN for a source whose description has the edition predate the introduction of ISBNs is a sure way of prompting an error message. Note that in addition to "date=" there's also "orig-date=" (ditto for "year=" and "orig-year="). -- Hoary (talk) 02:16, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

notable Publications are archived at thefreelibrary.com but are not included in their article

see:

• https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Humanities-p1+Literature%2fwriting
• https://www.thefreelibrary.com/American+Journalism+Review-p22751 American Journalism Review

where would this large task go?

Piñanana (talk) 03:39, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

"Notable" in what sense? In whose article are they "not included"? (And "included" in what sense?) Which "large task"? -- Hoary (talk) 04:33, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

this is mostly for the sake of having the numbers, so don't worry too much. there's also probably a better place to ask this, but shh

do y'all see the term "spa" being used more often to refer to sockpuppet or single-purpose accounts? consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 16:18, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

SPA stands for single-purpose account. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:19, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

i know that, hence the question not being "what does 'spa' stand for"? consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 19:20, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

WP:SPA goes to single-purpose account Athanelar (talk) 18:25, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I have never seen "spa" being used for sockpuppet accounts. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:03, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

SPA refers to a single purpose account, but it is both possible and commonplace for a disruptive account to be both a sockpuppet account and a single purpose account. Cullen328 (talk) 20:32, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

If sockpuppets have a short form, it's "sock".

"Sockpuppet account" is a rare phrase anyway, because Wikipedia's definition of sockpuppet already includes the fact that it's an account. In that way, "sockpuppet account" is like "hammer tool" or "aphid bug" - the second word is pointless because it's part of the first word's definition. TooManyFingers (talk) 04:55, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

How can I determine whether an image, such as a company logo, is copyrighted or otherwise restricted? I previously uploaded the AbsoluteDigital Pictures logo to Wikipedia, but it was removed due to a missing license. I believed it might be acceptable to upload because I searched the USPTO Trademark Search (TMSearch.USPTO.gov) and did not find any associated trademarks, or any indication of whether a trademark related to the logo was active or expired. I now understand that trademark status is separate from copyright, and I am unsure how to properly verify this before uploading images. WVWG9652 (talk) 00:02, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @WVWG9652. By default you should assume every image you come across is copyrighted, unless it is very specifically released under a compatible licence.

Logos can be uploaded to Wikipedia directly under fair use, but must meet specific requirements and can not be added to draft articles. qcne (talk) 00:06, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, WVWG9652. Many company logos consist of letters in commonplace fonts and perhaps a few common shapes. These lack sufficient creativity to be copyrighted and are therefore in the public domain. We currently have 5,602 such images in Category:Public domain images ineligible for copyright (logo). Cullen328 (talk) 00:33, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Shouldn't these files be exported to Commons? Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 14:20, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

File:Aftonbladet TV7.svg has a tag saying not to. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:32, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

But some don't, e.g. File:141 Schools for Peace.png. I guess this depends on the threshold of originality laws for the origin country. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 14:37, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Then I see no reason not exporting those. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:46, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

@WVWG9652 If there is an org with a WP-article, you can generally add a logo as WP:LEADIMAGE.

If it's a very simple logo, like File:Enhanced Games Logo.png, you can upload it on Commons, more at COM:TOO.

If it's a more complex logo, like File:Superleggera 2024 logo.jpg you have to upload it on English Wikipedia: Go to WP:FUW, pick Upload a non-free file > This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use. > This is a logo of an organization, company, brand, etc.

In neither case call yourself the author or mark it as your "own work." Unless, you know, you actually designed the logo. Hope this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:30, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

This was the image I added: https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/1200/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/absolutedigital_pictures.png WVWG9652 (talk) 13:57, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Guessing by User_talk:WVWG9652#Copyright_status:_File:AbsoluteDigital_Pictures_(Horizon)_(Print_Black).svg you didn't have any/wrong copyright tags, like you can see under the Licensing heading at File:Enhanced_Games_Logo.png. If you check here, you'll see how they are written. But that's a guess, I can't see deleted file pages. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:22, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Ok WVWG9652 (talk) 14:23, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

@WVWG9652 There is a pretty detailed guide to all this at WP:Logos. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:13, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

I know, I didn't even design the logo! It's just that I don't know if its simple or complex logo. WVWG9652 (talk) 14:22, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

I'd go with simple, seems equivalent to File:Adobe Systems logo and wordmark.svg IMO. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:26, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Also, what should I choose in Release rights to get the image uploaded? WVWG9652 (talk) 14:30, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

• This work was created by someone else and is free to share
• This work is not protected by copyright law

Then, in the add a specific public domain tag, if applicable field, add the tags I linked above, {{pd-textlogo}}{{trademarked}}.

It gets easier after you've done it a few times. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:44, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Btw, if it's a complex logo, you have to wait with the upload until you have an actual WP-article to put it in, non-free isn't allowed in drafts. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

This article (Chinese independent high school) is kind of heavily uncited. I don't know what to do with it since it has been marked since 2021, if anyone knows what to do with it please help. Thank you! N niyaz (talk) 09:17, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Google the term "chinese independent high school" (and the chinese language name) and see if you can find any sources with useful information evidencing notability, then add and cite the info from those sources. If you can't find anything, then it might be time to consider WP:Deletion. Athanelar (talk) 12:21, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

"chinese independent high school" is too generic a term (a search returns results about high schools in China that are independent). A search for "chinese independent high school" Malaysia (with quotes as shown) may be more successful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:36, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

WP:STUBIFY it down. Stubs are better than deletion. // hekatlys [talk] 12:26, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Historical sources generally indicate that Xerxes I was born around 519 BCE rather than 518 BCE. Since 519 BCE is more commonly accepted among historians, his birth year should be revised accordingly. ~2025-40531-69 (talk) 17:55, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

You've also raised this at Talk:Xerxes I#Birth year, which is the appropriate place, and I've responded there. NebY (talk) 18:25, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi there,

Published a page the other day and just wanted to know what's the process to having it removed from draft? Draft:Bōde. NikMJ (talk) 17:39, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi NikMJ, I have re-added the AFC template, which you deleted on 9 December. This includes the big "Submit the draft for review" button, which you need to press when you think your draft is ready for review. Good luck. - Arjayay (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

One question - Do you work for, or have any business links whatsoever to Bōde? If so, you must declare that Conflict of Interest (Please see WP:COIEDIT), and, if you work for them, or receive any remuneration for creating the article, Wikipedia considers you a paid editor. Please see WP:PAID for the additional declaration you must make in such circumstances. - Arjayay (talk) 18:03, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @NikMJ.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 22:17, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is great... How do I link my bank card and account to my Wikipedia profile MichaelUP (talk) 22:14, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

You don't unless you are actually trying to creates some sort of entirely pointless security risk. There is no reason whatsoever why anyone on Wikipedia could possibly have a legitimate reason to access such information. If you want to donate, note that it is the Wikimedia Foundation, rather than Wikipedia that collects funds: see [here]. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:20, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @MichaelUP

Why on earth would you want to do that?

If you are talking about making donations, they go to the Wikimedia Foundation, and there is (quite deliberately) no connection whatever between a donation or a donor, and a Wikipedia account. If you wish to say on your user page that you are a donor, that's fine, because it's your choice.

If what you are trying to do is get Wikipedia to stop showing you the donation banner, then you can turn that off for your account - but there is still nothing anywhere in Wikipedia that knows that you have or haven't donated. See Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-centralnotice-banners. ColinFine (talk) 22:21, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Specifically this image File:Sea Power game logo.png (fair-use image, can't display) Opecuted (talk) 03:50, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

perhaps this not copyrightable because it is simple text

Piñanana (talk) 04:42, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

There's some texturing going on in the text, so I'm playing safe. —Opecuted (talk) 05:13, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

The texturing going on in the text is not in the image,

it has to do with displaying an image with "transparency" Alpha compositing

other images on commons that have "transparency" exhibit the same phenomenon

Piñanana (talk) 05:40, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

They mean the pattern on the white text itself, not the alpha checkerboard pattern. It's much more visible against a dark background. —Cryptic 15:46, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Template:Infobox has a way of doing this (see, for example, Template talk:Infobox/Archive 19#Forcing a bg color on images with transparent bg), but {{infobox video game}} doesn't seem to pass the parameter through. —Cryptic 15:46, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I've opted to replace the logo with the cover art instead (File:Sea Power game cover art.jpg), thanks for trying to help. @Piñanana @Cryptic —Opecuted (talk) 03:48, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Percival Wilde plays are Public Domain with ISBN-13

an example: The Beautiful Story ISBN 978-1-4254-7780-6 $43 !!!!

I have seen this for many authors whose works are Public Domain

should they all be removed if free on archive.org or google books ?

Piñanana (talk) 00:19, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't know the actual places you're talking about removing something. But wouldn't it make more sense to not remove anything, in case someone wants it, but to also proclaim loud and clear that they are public domain works? TooManyFingers (talk) 02:21, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm unaware of any practice of declaring that works are in the public domain. It is considerate of editors to point out if a book that's on a website requires registration for the website or "subscription" (payment) to it. Template:Cite book provides for this. -- Hoary (talk) 06:05, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Also: Do you really mean these are inserted somewhere by spammers? Or do you mean this is widespread copyfraud ... or what? TooManyFingers (talk) 02:27, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Piñanana.

As far as I know, an ISBN-13 is interchangeable with its ISBN-10 version, and there is no significance to using the longer form.

In citing a book, the ISBN, where there is one, is an important part of the citation, as it uniquely identifies the (edition of) the book. A link to Google books or Archive.org is not an essential part of the citation, but merely a convenience for the reader. So, no, do not remove an ISBN from any citation unless it is actually wrong. ColinFine (talk) 12:22, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Good evening. I'm asking about an ident of the irish channel TV3 (Now Virgin Media One). The one mentioned on Kojii's page. There was also an infamous horror version. I think it's a good idea to add about it either on her or the network's page, because it's really unique due to the sheer amout of blood as well as it pretty much being a creepypasta that really exists. What about you people? What do you think? ~2025-40048-69 (talk) 20:28, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @~2025-40048-69. Having gone looking for something or somebody called Kojii, I have found Kojii Helnwein, so I know have at least a vague idea of what on earth you are talking about.

If you have a suggestion for improving that article, please make it on Talk:Kojii Helnwein. But note that unless you can find a reliable source talking about the "infamous horror version", nothing about it should go into the article - and even if you can, it is an editorial judgment call whether it belongs in the article or not. ColinFine (talk) 20:45, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Yes, Kojii Helnwein is exactly who i meant. Concerning reliable sources, it's complicated. Also, it seems like you don't know what i'm talking about. I'm talking about https://www.avid.wiki/Draft:Virgin_Media_One. Specifially the 2006-2008 section. The horror one is under a spoiler. Is that a good source? Even if it isn't, it's still noteworthy. ~2025-40048-69 (talk) 01:21, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

You ask if https://www.avid.wiki/Draft:Virgin_Media_One is a good source. This is a page that tells us: This page is currently being drafted. It is a work in progress that anyone can edit. It's what might be called a textbook example of an unusable source. You continue: "Even if it isn't, it's still noteworthy". We're concerned here about notability as defined by and for English-language Wikipedia. If what we hope to say about some event, person, thing, etc can't be verified from a reliable source, then it can't be written up here. -- Hoary (talk) 06:41, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

That's a real bummer. But you gotta admit it's impressive that it was on public TV. ~2025-40048-69 (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I hope you are well.

I have been doing extensive research on the Rand Rebellion ( Rand Rebellion ) and i have a few issues relating to the page for the Rand Revolt. Firstly, how does one go about editing a page? I would like to contribute much more information to that page if possible.

Secondly, i have an issue with what is stated on the wikipedia page for that topic. Mostly, my main issue is that it lacks nuance, uses politically biased sources, and does not have enough detail. For example, it states that "The young Communist Party of South Africa (CPSA) took an active part in the uprising on grounds of class struggle whilst reportedly using racist language in its opposition to racial conflict during the strike". It then goes on to use marxists.org as a source, which i would say is a fairly biased and politically inclined source, and therefore shouldn't be used.

My main issue with this particular paragraph is that, according to an independent judicial report made after the revolt (linked here) https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/WbU-AQAAMAAJ?hl=en , The leaders and many members of the Communist Party of South Africa knew fully well that the revolt was instigated by fears of the colour bar being removed, and yet still supported it and the racist aspects of the revolt, since that was the entire revolt.

Hope i can get some help with this. Cheers. ~2025-40680-02 (talk) 12:09, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-40680-02 See WP:BOLD and, in case someone disagree with something you boldly do, WP:COMMUNICATE. On the use of sources, context matters, see WP:ALLOWEDBIAS. It is very important to know how to add references correctly, WP:TUTORIAL can help you with that. Hope this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:23, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Also, you may or may not be able to get helpful input in places like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South Africa and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:28, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

The bias of a source has to be considered in the context of the information it's communicating to you. For instance, the statement "The Communist Party took part on the grounds of class struggle" is fairly uncontroversially sourceable to a communist source, I'd say. The mere fact that a given source has a particular political inclination does not necessarily mean we can't trust any information from it, it just means we have to be careful what information we use it for. The extra context is something you could add and source to that other report. Athanelar (talk) 14:38, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I am editing a wikipedia page and my edits keep being reversed who can I contact about this? ~2025-38634-22 (talk) 11:57, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-38634-22, in one edit summary, you said I have been asked to do this by the person associated with this page Jo Delahunty KC. Please have a read of our conflict of interest policies and procedures. Nil🥝 12:09, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-38634-22 Please respond to the messages here User talk:~2025-38634-22. You are at risk of being blocked from editing. qcne (talk) 12:21, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I think it's worth pointing out that I don't think Tescomealdeal1 has been going about this properly, as I've already mentioned at their talk page. At one point they say I appreciate the time that you have spent to appropriately source your edits but I still cannot allow them due to your Conflict of Interest (COI) with the topic., but COI editors are merely strongly discouraged from editing their COI topic, not forbidden from it, and it is improper to revert a well-sourced and productive edit merely on the grounds of a COI existing. Athanelar (talk) 14:49, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hey, I actually did this yesterday, how to create a draft article Gfroi (talk) 13:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gfroi, visit the Article wizard. Remember that creating a new article is very hard! win8x (talk) 13:43, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Your post yesterday was at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#16:40, 14 December 2025 review of submission by Gfroi.

You can find your previous edits at Special:Contributions/Gfroi. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:43, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I would like to propose moving the article Heidi to Heidi (novel), since the animated television series Heidi, Girl of the Alps has comparable notability and cultural relevance. I've posted my proposal on the Talk:Heidi. ~2025-40949-23 (talk) 16:28, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

The article talk page is the place for this. Give people a week or so to respond. Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:15, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

without getting into the details here, I went to create an account for my company and saw that a username was already created, yet there is no page for it. How do I get help for this? ~2025-40980-08 (talk) 14:22, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

What is the name of the company in question? Athanelar (talk) 14:39, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

We don't allow an account for your company, see WP:ROLEACCOUNT. If you wan't, you can register with something like "Kim at Company X". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:43, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @~2025-40980-08. Your question suggests that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is.

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which contains neutral and well-sourced articles about notable subjects (according to Wikipedia's special definition of "notable").

If there is ever an article about your company, the article will not belong to your company, will not be controlled by your company, may contain material your company does not like, and could be edited by almost anybody in the world except you and other people associated with your company.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

Accounts are entirely separate from articles: with certain restrictions (such as the conflict of interest that I alluded to above) anybody, with or without an account, may edit any article.

You and your colleages are welcome to create accounts for yourselves (though you don't have to), but there is no such thing as a "company account".

If any of you intend to edit any article relating to your company, you must first make a formal declaration of your paid editor status (see that link for how).

If there is already an article about your company, you should not make any edits to it, but you are welcome to make edit requests relating to it: make your requests as specific as possible, and make sure you cite a reliable published source for any information you wish adding.

If there is not already an article about your company, then you are permitted to create one using the articles for creation process. But note that:

• Most companies in existence do not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and so no article about them will be accepted. If you want to create an article, your first priority will be looking for sources which are reliably published, wholly independent of your company, and contain significant coverage of the company (not just of its people or products, and not run-of-the-mill business activities). I suggest also reading WP:BOSS and WP:YESPROMO.
• My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

ColinFine (talk) 17:18, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm directing this message to Wikipedia. Please re check all the history pages and the sports pages because they are inaccurate academically. It's a free bold tip! Thank you for listening!

Check your pages. They are modified and inaccurate academically. They are written in codes but they are like published by canibals. ~2025-39247-85 (talk) 02:01, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry @~2025-39247-85 but this is an extremely vague and borderline incomprehensible "tip". Can you give us some specific examples? ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 02:04, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia anyone, including you, an edit. If you see a mistake, fix it. But do make sure you have reliable sources for anything you add. HiLo48 (talk) 02:07, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Back when I was a first-year anthropology student, I can remember reading an academic work on allegations of cannibalism (sadly, the author escapes me), which noted just how often such claims concerned some disliked 'other', almost invariably unaccompanied by anything resembling evidence. Some things never change... AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:18, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

At least this adds to the pool of possible names for Wikipedia's house band. "Published by Canibals" is a bit long to fit nicely on a t-shirt though. TooManyFingers (talk) 02:36, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Canibals will be our record label mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:09, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I found the work mentioned I above: William Arens' 1979 The Man-Eating Myth : Anthropology and Anthropophagy. Needless to say, Arens' claims regarding the rarity (or non-existence) of culturally-acceptable cannibalism have been disputed since, and by most accounts debunked, though I don't think anyone disagrees with his suggestion that allegations of cannibalism have often been made to simply project negativity. In the interests of good faith, I'm going to assume that the OP's intimation was just that, rather than an actual allegation of cannibalism by Wikipedia contributors. Quite how one might detect this particular gastronomic preference through writing style escapes me... AndyTheGrump (talk)

OK. I call dibs on football. Category:WikiProject Football articles has 500,000+ pages but some of them aren't actually articles so this should be easy. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:32, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

How many of them cite academic sources? I know that academia tends to throw its nets wide when trawling for subjects (bad metaphor, since trawlers don't throw nets...) but is there actually published peer-reviewed work on Huddersfield Town's single-appearance Joseph Wigmore? I rather doubt it. Not unless he subsequently ate someone? AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:56, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

I heard he was dating that woman who Daryl Hall and John Oates sang about. In fact, she probably wrote our article about him. TooManyFingers (talk) 03:20, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

TooManyFingers At least the OP made it easier to fit on a t-shirt by misspelling Canibals with only one n.Naraht (talk) 14:27, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

I expect there's a market for books like The Canibal Codes: The Do's and Don'ts of Eating Your Relatives. MinorProphet (talk) 02:13, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@MinorProphet Was The Canibal Codes written by Dan Brown, by any chance? David10244 (talk) 05:34, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

I believe that one is actually by S. Green. TooManyFingers (talk) 07:07, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers They were fine young can[n]ibals. David10244 (talk) 00:28, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Your article on Nick Fuentes is bias and absurdly far left. If you're not going to write a neutral documentary, then don't cry for people to donate to your lame site. ~2025-39495-55 (talk) 02:26, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. Feel free not to donate. Or to read Wikipedia at all. Plenty of people do both, though whether the WMF (which actually solicits the donations, rather than Wikipedia) actually needs the humungous pile of dosh it is sitting on is a matter of debate. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:59, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Which part of "Nicholas Joseph Fuentes (born August 18, 1998) is an American political commentator and a far-right white nationalist, activist, and live streamer. He hosts America First, a livestream promoting Christian nationalism, white supremacy, misogyny, anti-LGBTQ views, and antisemitism including Holocaust denial." do you feel is not supported by citations in the body of the article? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:29, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

One might indeed ask whether Fuentes would deny any of that. —Antonissimo (talk) 02:19, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Right! Like, of all right wing commentators, Fuentes is probably the easiest to write an objective article on. He doesn't shut up and leaves no room for ambiguity mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:14, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I wonder what kind of person it takes to search for Nick Fuentes on Wikipedia, see the donation banner at the top of the page, and get so pissed off at the combination of those two things that they have to come and tell us about it. Athanelar (talk) 22:52, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Presumably, the kind of person who reads text like that I quoted, and thinks "This is someone whose reputation I must defend". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:43, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Good point, Andy. David10244 (talk) 00:29, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

How to create my own website? ~2025-40142-91 (talk) 06:45, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-40142-91. This is the help desk for Wikipedia editing only. Please use an internet search engine to find information on how to create a website. qcne (talk) 09:09, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

(heads up, I made a template for this kind of scenario) mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:36, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

See WP:Alternative outlets for some free tools and services. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:40, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Do topic bans apply to all Wikimedia projects, or just Wikipedia? Erika Dauði (she/her) (talk) 12:28, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Topic bans are applied by the admins or community of English Wikipedia only, so they apply to English Wikipedia only. Athanelar (talk) 12:31, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks. Erika Dauði (she/her) (talk) 12:42, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Do note that if you are topic banned, taking your antics elsewhere probably wouldn't be appreciated (you were banned for a reason, after all) mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:42, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Other language versions of Wikipedia may also choose to have topic bans, but there is no such thing as a single cross project topic ban. Cullen328 (talk) 08:08, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

On firefox, the sound player glyphs stop being rendered after I click it once. You can view a video here: (Apologies for my goofy cursor...)

https://streamable.com/vldp24 Erikgobrrr (talk) 17:37, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

@Erikgobrrr: It works for me in Firefox 146.0 on WIndows 11. Does it also fail at commons:File:Near-close near-front rounded vowel.ogg? Does it help to reload the page with Ctrl+F5? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:19, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Works for me too, in 145.0.2.

I notice that when I play the clip, it replaces the symbols there with new ones (replay, and sound), and your browser is presumably not displaying those symbols. That sounds as if you haven't got a font which shows them. ColinFine (talk) 20:41, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

That was my first thought but I looked up the hex values displayed instead of characters: F103/F101/F11B and F107. They also display as those hex values for me here in Firefox: . They are all in a Private Use Area so they are not supposed to display something on their own. I don't know how the audio player works but maybe it's supposed to load symbols to display for those values. That's why I asked for a Ctrl+F5 reload which should reload everything used to render the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:45, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Nevermind, it's because I have an extension that changes the font and I coincidentally chose a font which doesn't have those characters. Erikgobrrr (talk) 00:30, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

the extension has been disabled. Erikgobrrr (talk) 00:36, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

@Erikgobrrr, I realize your problem was solved, but if you wish to change the font for Wikipedia, you may copy and paste the following into this page:

 body {font-family: 'YOUR FONT OF CHOICE','Segoe UI','Segoe UI Emoji','Segoe UI Symbol','Lato','Liberation Sans','Noto Sans','Helvetica Neue','Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #000; font-size: 0.95em; line-height: 1.5}

Changing "YOUR FONT OF CHOICE" with the name of a font on your computer. The other ones are backups. You can change the rest of the parameters too if you want. win8x (talk) 04:12, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello! This page is for people who need help editing wikipedia. You might have better luck with a search engine like Google or DuckDuckGo. If you still want help from a Wikipedian, then the reference desk could prove helpful! mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:48, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

My article was declined, and I’d like to understand which specific notability or sourcing issues I should improve before resubmitting. I want to make sure I fix it correctly.

Thank you for your time. Dileepnnit (talk) 06:02, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Is this about Draft:Naren Shetty? -- Hoary (talk) 06:09, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

If It is, Dileepnnit could start by actually citing sources for things they say, rather than making shit up and hoping nobody notices. See my comment on the draft page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:43, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

LLMs love to namedrop "coverage" like that... Nil🥝 06:53, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I feel like we need some kind of three strikes rule with drafts. If someone's draft gets declined three times in a four day period (including twice on the same day) it seems to me fairly self-evident that they aren't (whether due to lack of sources or lack of ability) able to act on the feedback being given in the decline notices, and they should probably be prevented from resubmitting that draft and politely told to find something else to edit. Athanelar (talk) 10:22, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Or, in the case of paid contributors (which is what we are dealing with here, though the declaration doesn't make this immediately obvious) told that if they post dishonest promotional bullshit again, they will be blocked from editing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

We should issue bans on any paid contributor who has more than 1 of their edits reverted for sourcing issues. If they're being paid to edit, they should be expected to know the rules better than that mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:52, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

yes ~2025-40820-58 (talk) 07:26, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I have been a donor for several years and I am getting annoying banners on my phone when I access Wikipedia. Bobsinair (talk) 21:58, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

@Bobsinair, visit Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-centralnotice-banners and turn "Fundraising" off. You need to be logged in on your phone. win8x (talk) 22:01, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I've been trying to log into my Wikipedia account on other devices and keep being told that a verification email has been sent, but I recieve nothing. Digging into my account, I found I made a mistake that's preventing me from getting emails from Wikipedia. My email address in Wikipedia is set as gmail.org but obviously, that was a typo on my part and should be .com As a result, I can't get any of the verification codes to log in or even correct the error I made. Any help correcting this would be appreciated. SheriffJackCarter (talk) 22:56, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

@SheriffJackCarter: If you know the password then can you use "Change or remove email address" at Special:Preferences? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I swear I tried that before and it still wanted the emailed conformation code. This time, it worked! Thank you! SheriffJackCarter (talk) 23:15, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

The bureaucrat and administrator user rights sound the same, so what is the difference between a bureaucrat and an administrator? ~2025-39288-34 (talk) 22:48, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-39288-34: A bureaucrat can add more user groups than an administrator. Notably, a bureaucrat can add the administrator group to other users. See more in the lead of Wikipedia:Bureaucrats and Wikipedia:User groups#User access level changes. Administrtors can do many things Bureaucrats cannot but on the English Wikipeia, all bureaucrats are also administrators. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello! Please disregard this question if this is not the appropriate place to ask it. I had requested a good faith courtesy vanishing a couple months back due to privacy concerns. While I had initially intended on not returning to Wikipedia due to said reason, I have found myself wanting to contribute once again. Any clarification as to whether returning after vanishing is possible would be greatly appreciated, and I completely understand if it is not. Thank you! :) ~2025-41006-07 (talk) 23:30, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

IP editor, Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing says For questions about vanishing or to explore less permanent solutions, consider contacting a Functionary or a member of the Arbitration Committee for advice. TSventon (talk) 23:48, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Oh, that's embarrassing. I should've read the page more closely. Thank you for your help! ~2025-41006-07 (talk) 23:53, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Can somebody rate Seventeen Mile Lake, Seloam Lake, and Gold Lake, Nova Scotia? I am bad at rating accesment scales Versions111 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Versions111, I find it hard to decide between "start" and "C", or between "C" and "B", so I don't bother rating articles. If it's an article I've freshly promoted from draft status (as it usually is), some other editor quickly arrives and grades it. I've never got a comment about not grading, let alone a complaint. -- Hoary (talk) 04:38, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

As long as you have a fairly accurate idea of "decent article" and "no-good article" and know which side of that line you're on, you can and should just ignore all the rest of the ratings. I'm no good at ratings either. TooManyFingers (talk) 04:59, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

@Versions111  Done THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT WORK. Happy editing CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 06:19, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

@Versions111, Hoary, TooManyFingers, and Thilio: you all (except Hoary) need WP:RATER. I think it does a good job of deciding if an article is a goodish stub or a poorish start. TSventon (talk) 14:29, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Ah TSventon, grading. If my article Jindřich Marco is a C-class numismatics article, then the FIFA Peace Prize is a peace prize. -- Hoary (talk) 21:44, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hoary do you want to explain, I think you are saying something like Ceci n'est pas une pipe, but I could be wrong. TSventon (talk) 15:14, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

TSventon, I think that Jindřich Marco is a decent stab (if I may say it myself) at an article about somebody who definitely was a photographer of note. I'm pretty sure that the man was also a numismatist of note. But as my numismatic knowledge hardly extends beyond my possession of a couple of cans-full of coins that back in the coin-using era I found in my pockets on my return from travels, I don't even know where I should attempt to read up on a numismatist. (I did try the very obvious, e.g. Google Scholar, but got nowhere.) I am sure that the article is, numismatically, a mere stub. Years ago I might have said that if you believed that, numismatically, it was a "C", then I had a bridge to sell you; but there's no need to reach into the hazy past now that each day's news brings us politicians and their spokespersons shamelessly spouting obvious poppycock (e.g. that the "FIFA Peace Prize" is a prize for peacemaking). -- Hoary (talk) 23:18, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

@Hoary Time for upgrades lol :) CONFUSED SPIRIT(Thilio).Talk 13:18, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

This is becoming increasingly bonkers, Thilio. -- Hoary (talk) 22:37, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hoary, thank you, I think we express our scepticism differently. I think that saying an article is C-class often just means that somebody has tagged it as C. I don't think I was involved in doing assessing articles project by project. And I hadn't clicked on your links. TSventon (talk) 00:43, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

At Wisconsin Integrally Synchronized Computer, the last sentence before the references, what needs to be done to make the cite web display properly? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 01:12, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Use the real title? Wrap the template in <ref>...</ref> tags. Perhaps this:

<ref>{{Cite web |title=WISC (Wisconsin Integrally Synchronized Computer) logic unit |website=Computer History Museum |url=https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102657546 |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20210713235535/https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102657546 |archive-date=2021-07-13 |access-date=2025-07-10 |language=en}}</ref>

—Trappist the monk (talk) 01:21, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

I didn't put it in there, I was just trying to get it fixed. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 01:49, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm reporting this proposal to move the Tottenham article. ~2025-40984-91 (talk) 22:14, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

What are you reporting it for? Athanelar (talk) 23:59, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Our general awareness, I guess? It has just indirectly led me to making an additional entry on the Chelsea (disambiguation) page, so it's had at least some outcome. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 11:12, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello. Is there any way to find edits from users in a specific category? As in, have any users in Category:Assas Wikipedians made edits since 00:00 UTC 13 Dec? Thanks, Chorchapu (talk | edits) 19:32, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

There isn't a convenient onwiki way, no, but I've done an analysis at quarry:query/100040. The only two to edit since that timestamp are User:Assas CHEUNG and User:17714Margaux. —Cryptic 19:43, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Good to know, and thank you very much for doing this. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 23:11, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

17714Margaux wasn't in Category:Assas Wikipedians when they edited... TSventon (talk) 23:14, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

However, as Epicgenius, Narutolovehinata5, and YuniToumei point out in this thread, the account 1) matches the format of the other Assas usernames, 2) is making edits similar to the others, and 3) was created on frwiki (Assas is in France). Even though the assignment is officially over, to be honest, Assas CHEUNG hasn't shown to be too organised previously and it seems like things may not have been communicated properly. That's why I was asking, as I wanted to make sure that no other edits had been made by Assas users that needed looking at. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 23:26, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

@Chorchapu: the point I was trying to make was that the latest account wasn't part of the category, but was spotted through other criteria, so we can't be completely sure that no other edits had been made by Assas users. As you have been looking at the users' edits, my point is probably not surprising. TSventon (talk) 13:23, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

I want to make a new page for a public figure who doesn't have one yet. I tried putting two brackets around their name in an article in which they are mentioned but this did not create a red link I could use to create the new page. Do I currently have the username credentials to create a new page? Davestewart85 (talk) 15:34, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

presumably you are talking about setting up an article at Sophie Haydock?

Bare in mind creating a page is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia. See WP:YFA for more details. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:03, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Davestewart85.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

One of the specific problems for new users is that the criteria for notability are complicated and rather unexpected when you first meet them; but if your chosen topic does not in fact meet them, then an article is impossible, and every second that you spend working on it (other than looking for suitable sources) is time wasted. ColinFine (talk) 22:16, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

You should, however, bear in mind how to spell. MinorProphet (talk) 14:10, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Ive Created wikipeadia account and first i want to start with editing, how to start it guys and my contribute button is freezed how to use contribute button Sandeep M Ganesh (talk) 11:43, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

The "contribute" is not a button but a header, the words underneath are links. Click the words "community portal". You may also find the new user tutorial helpful. 331dot (talk) 11:46, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

See Help:Introduction and Help:Contributing to Wikipedia

Happy editing! Athanelar (talk) 12:51, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

I will also note that if English is not your primary language, you might find more opportunities to contribute to the global project in the Wikipedia for your mother tongue or for some other language(s) in which you are more fluent. I don't have to tell you, the planet is full of languages, and the Wikimedia Foundation tries to support as many of them as possible. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:47, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

He died in Fener, not Padua ~2025-40955-77 (talk) 01:49, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Egidio Forcellini died at his home in Campo di Alano on 5 April 1768, not in Padua, and his place of death should therefore be corrected accordingly. This information is confirmed by the plaque displayed on his birthplace in Faveri (Fener): , as well as by multiple reputable sources, including:  ;  ;  ; . ~2025-40864-83 (talk) 01:49, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello - welcome! Please go to the article about Forcellini, and at the top of the page click on "Talk". On the Talk page, please create a new topic - you might call your topic "Place of death" - and suggest that the page be changed. When you do that, hopefully it will start a conversation and maybe an agreement to change it.

• Note that you are more likely to get a good result if you try to be "diplomatic" about it.

If you wait a week and no one has responded at all, then go ahead with your changes, making sure to provide your references in one of the correct ways accepted on Wikipedia. TooManyFingers (talk) 03:18, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

My skin has changed unexpectedly. Its seems to have changed a field of white with loads of instructional content like for newbies. I've tried changing back but not saving. I'm was on the oldest skin. Is that still valid. Its peeving me off. scope_creep^Talk 21:14, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

What was your old skin, and what is your new skin? win8x (talk) 21:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

The old skin was the oldest, the earliest one. Can't remember the name of it. Its now on Vector Legacy now which has got most of it back but its not the original skin. For some reason it did this about 10 year ago. Just dumped the profile onto the newest one. I would like to get back to the original one. It was donkey's ago. Appreciate the help. scope_creep^Talk 22:02, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

The only deprecated skins are Modern (turn on here) and Cologne Blue (turn on here). Full documentation is at Wikipedia:Skins. Is that what you are talking about? win8x (talk) 22:04, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

That is. Its Cologne Blue. Whatever you did, seemed to work. It's now fixed. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 22:19, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Cologne Blue is excellent, Scope creep. I changed from it only recently and reluctantly. Its incompatibilities are so few that I could for the most part ignore them. And a bonus: It looks very different from the default, so even if I was sleepy or distracted I never thought I was logged in when I wasn't. I'm thinking of changing back. -- Hoary (talk) 06:04, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Morning @Hoary: I'm really used to it now, the look and feel and found it quite hard to adapt the last time the profile failed about 10 year ago, so wanted to switch back right away this time and get on with it. That new default skin, which I hadn't seen before is absolutely beautiful. If it wasn't for fields of white space and lack of bounderies, I would have stayed. The flow of salient information is much much better. I'm thinking of creating a seperate account, a scope_creep affiliate after Christmas to use it part time to see if I can adapt to it. scope_creep^Talk 07:22, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Now that this is properly solved, I can say it began as the most medical-sounding Help Desk item I've seen so far.

The unexpected twist that it's gone all white and become cluttered up with instructions for newbies was ... I'm not sure what. :) TooManyFingers (talk) 03:26, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi!

I have edited the article "Rungis International Market", as it is in no way "international", but "d'intéret national" which mean "Nation wide".

But I don't know how to edit the entry name.

Best SBOINSAR (talk) 20:16, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

The changes you made to the article are not supported by either the French or English web sites of the market organization, and have been reverted. Discuss on the article's Talk page with other editors at Talk:Rungis International Market. General Ization ^Talk 20:24, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

@SBOINSAR: Your alleged name "Rungis Nation Wide Market" has no Google hits and no chance of being accepted when the Official website of the market is linked in the article and shows in the red bar at the bottom that Rungis International Market is the real name. Do not add made up names to Wikipedia. Our content is based on published reliable sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: In fairness to the OP, it appears (from a 2014 comment on the article Talk page) that the name of the market changed from the one the OP is proposing more than 10 years ago to the one currently reflected here (so the OP's proposal does not appear to be a "made up" name, but is no longer correct). General Ization ^Talk 22:34, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

The former page name was Marché d'Intérêt National de Rungis. The OP called it Rungis Nation Wide Market in the article which was apparently an attempt to translate a former French name of what is called Marché International de Rungis today. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, the OP's proposed name was a literal translation of the former name (Intérêt National in this case being idiomatic). General Ization ^Talk 23:26, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Nationwide is usually one word, by the way. —Antonissimo (talk) 04:58, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

He or she stays in south africa Zolotoffk (talk) 19:27, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

This help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. We have several articles on people named Lee Smith, but unless you are referring to one of them, we cannot help you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:32, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello! This page is for people who need help editing wikipedia. You might have better luck with a search engine like Google or DuckDuckGo. If you still want help from a Wikipedian, then the reference desk could prove helpful! mgjertson (talk) (contribs) 19:47, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I knew a Lee Smith in California long ago. At the time, the name was also used by Bank of America on dummy credit cards. —Antonissimo (talk) 05:04, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

I need Help with Someone, I am not getting through to them ... User_talk:K-popguardian they deleted a Page (or redirected it) (Lucia Field) and they are not understanding why it's wrong to do it ... Jena (talk) 01:08, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@Jena Fi: what K-popguardian did was a common process called blank and redirect, see WP:BLAR. They didn't think that Lucia Field is WP:NOTABLE, so they redirected the page, you disagree, so you should explain why Field is suitable for an article on the talk page. TSventon (talk) 01:30, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

ok but I will wait... I don't think they will do it again ... and reading the talk page ... they are having some problems with Wikipedia Jena (talk) 01:34, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@Jena Fi: I absolutely will do it again, especially now that its been explained as a common practice by @TSventon:, unless you can professionally and properly explain to me WHY this page should stay, without making any personal attacks on my wikipedia record, JUST focusing on what's allowed and not allowed on Wikipedia. - K-popguardian (talk) 01:38, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I tried to tell you before ... you have to discuss it with people before you do it, Lucia is the Blue Wiggle and she is Anthony's Daughter.. that is why she is notable Jena (talk) 01:41, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Not all members of a notable band are inherently notable, nor is being related to a notable person. I don't have an opinion on Field generally, however. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 08:00, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

@Jena Fi That’s not what "notable" means in the Wikipedia sense. Please click here: WP:N and read it. Thanks. David10244 (talk) 05:05, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

@Jena Fi: An article has to be more than two pieces of trivia. As I mentioned in the redirect reasoning (which I'm starting to think you didn't even read), not only was her article ridiculously small but there's only TWO non-primary sources on the entire thing. There's a reason why Kelly Hamilton doesn't have a page but someone like Philip Wilcher does. The coverage of these individuals' careers is what ultimately matters most, and by extension, artices focused on said individual and not the group as a whole. Otherwise the entire article really is just "Lucia Field is the daughter of Anthony and the Blue Wiggle." And AGAIN, saying this for the third time now, I made it a REDIRECT to acknowledge that she might be more notable in the future but seeing as she's the wiggle with the least amount of information on wikipedia, she does not meet the criteria to have a page. And it's really bothering me that all you've done to justify this is tell me "don't do it again", complain about me to the help desk, take aim my wikipedia record, and doing everything but proving her notability. This feels more like something you're doing as a fan and not because you know this article meets criteria. - K-popguardian (talk) 01:54, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: Just taking a quick glance at Lucia Field's page, do you think she's WP:NOTABLE enough to have a page right now? - K-popguardian (talk) 02:00, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Passer-by, but as someone active in reviewing new pages/drafts, this doesn't presently pass WP:GNG. No in-depth coverage from multiple independent sources. Do more exist? Not sure, but currently there's not enough to meet independent notability under WP:NBANDMEMBER. // hekatlys [talk] 02:14, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

I was just reading a page about someone being fined $500 in 1844. Do we have a template that will convert that to 2025 (or some other modern year) dollars in such a way that the page will always have a fairly recent equivalent dollar amount? Is there such a template for pounds, euros, etc? --Guy Macon (talk) 18:59, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Template:Inflation; for the USA this goes back to 1634.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:03, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

see {{inflation}} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:04, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! just what I was looking for. --Guy Macon (talk) 20:20, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Provide these 2 - complete $ to -gold/-crude oil per annum since 1973 to 2025. MichaelUP (talk) 22:53, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Can we compare the price of a gallon of milk with a gallon of gasoline over the decades?  :-) David10244 (talk) 05:22, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi

Is it possible to reverse vanishing and restore my account? ~2025-40841-58 (talk) 09:42, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @~2025-40841-58. WP:Courtesy vanishing does not mention a way of requesting this, and says explicitly It is not intended as a temporary measure, and also vanishing is a last resort, intended only for those who wish to stop editing permanently and minimize their visible past associations.

But it also says If the user returns, the vanishing will likely be fully reversed, the old and new accounts will be linked, and any prior sanctions or restrictions reinstated, which suggests that this is possible.

I suggest you contact a recently-active admin, explain exactly why you requested vanishing, and why you now want to return. See https://apersonbot.toolforge.org/recently-active/?admins for recently active admins. ColinFine (talk) 12:32, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Another, probably better option would be to use meta:Special:EmailUser/Wikimedia Global-renamers (if you have an account) or to email renamerswikimedia.org, with proof you own the account. I am not sure if they will grant the request, though.

A better alternative is to start fresh, with a new account. win8x (talk) 22:12, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I didn't think that starting fresh after a courtesy vanishing was allowed or encouraged. It could be a way for a problematic editor to escape scrutiny. David10244 (talk) 05:32, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

I ask to delete Dr. Peter Lacker from the filmography in the TV Show on L.A. Law, Episode I'm in Nude for Love. Dominic Chianese is not playing as Dr. Peter Lacker. Robert Ellenstein plays as Dr. Peter Lacker. I find it on IMDb. I got it right. ~2025-39997-74 (talk) 04:07, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

IMDb is not a reliable source on Wikipedia, because it can be edited by anybody. See WP:Citing IMDb Athanelar (talk) 04:15, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

That does not mean that IMDb is always wrong.

We need to know which page(s) the first poster refers to, so that we can see what sources (if any!) are cited there, and check them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:42, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

You've already deleted him from Dominic Chianese, so what's the problem? P.S. IMDb is pretty accurate as far as credits are concerned, and the episode entry agrees that Ellenstein (uncredited) played Lacker. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:31, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend IMDb might be pretty accurate, but as you probably know, just like Wikipedia, it's user-editable and therefore can't be used as a source. David10244 (talk) 04:54, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

The cast credits are not afaik user edited. When a user asks for an addition/change/correction to the cast, it has to be submitted to the site for approval. (I know this from my own experience.) In any case, Chianese has no source either. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:43, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

QSI International School of Brindisi, I need to remove the "QSI" SalentoDreams (talk) 04:42, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

See WP:Move

The way you rename a page is essentially by moving the content and history to a new page with a different title. In this case you'd want to provide a source for the name change in your move reason, but be mindful of WP:COMMONNAME; if the school's changed its name but it's still more commonly referred to with the QSI, then the QSI should be kept in the title. Athanelar (talk) 09:36, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk Team, My name is Dr. Marcello Maviglia (MD, MPH), and I am writing to request assistance regarding a biographical draft I published earlier today. The draft appeared on my screen after I clicked “Publish,” but I am now unable to locate it in my user space, Draft space, or contributions list. I am concerned that it may have been saved in an unexpected namespace or that a technical issue prevented it from being properly recorded. I want to express this respectfully: I have the perception that I may not be receiving a fair opportunity for my biography to be considered. I fully understand Wikipedia’s notability guidelines, and I believe my academic, clinical, and system-level contributions meet those standards. My intention is not to accuse anyone, but to ensure that my work is evaluated equitably and according to Wikipedia’s established criteria. To assist you in understanding the context, here is a summary of my professional background:

Given the scope of my academic and professional contributions, I respectfully request assistance with: Locating the draft I published today, which is currently not visible in my user or draft space Determining whether a technical issue occurred during the publishing process Ensuring that my biography receives a fair and unbiased review according to Wikipedia’s notability and sourcing guidelines Thank you for your time and for any guidance you can provide. I am committed to following Wikipedia’s policies and contributing constructively to the platform. Sincerely,

Dr. Marcello Maviglia, MD, MPH  
Albuquerque, New Mexico Marcellomavi (talk) 03:31, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Dr. Maviglia. Unfortunately the material you placed there had to be deleted because it was advertising your services or your business. Wikipedia does not allow such material, even on users' pages. TooManyFingers (talk) 04:03, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I am quite frankly offended by your answer. I am trying to gain legitimate space by publishing my honest work. I did submit my cv adapted to Wikipedia style. It looks like your selection criteria are unclear, and the directions are very vague. I do not think I have been given a fair chance. Marcellomavi (talk) 02:17, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Nothing vague about it. If you "submitted your CV adapted to Wikipedia style" then you directly contravened a policy literally called WP:NOTCV. You not taking the effort to familiarise yourself with our norms and procedures is not the same as them being unclear or vague.

Furthermore, absolutely nobody here is under any obligation to give you "a fair chance" to promote yourself here by publishing your CV. We strongly discourage people from writing their own biographical articles, and outright forbid self-promotion. Athanelar (talk) 10:43, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

If there is a Wikipedia article about you at some time in the future, it will not include the kinds of things you wrote. Instead, it will be a simple restatement of what has been written about you by people who have no connection with you, such as reporters independently writing about you without an interview. TooManyFingers (talk) 04:15, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Are you telling me that all your articles in Wikipedia have followed the process you are suggesting? This does not match my info. In fact, I think that can be challenged. You are actually stating that all the articles on people on Wikipedia have been written by other people who had no connections with the individual who is the subject of the narrative? Can you say YES? Marcellomavi (talk) 02:30, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Most are, yes.

It is not absolutely forbidden for people to write about themselves on Wikipedia, see the autobiography policy- but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves. People writing about themselves must set aside everything they know about themselves and all materials that they put out(like interviews) and limit themselves to summarizing what independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about them and how they are a notable person as Wikipedia defines one.(there are also narrower categories for some specific fields). Most people have great difficulty doing that, and most do not succeed. Are you the rare person that can? Possibly, but the odds are heavily against it.

Also know that an article is not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 10:49, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification. I would like to respond precisely to the point I raised.

You stated that “most” biographical articles on Wikipedia are written by individuals with no connection to the subject. That assertion does not align with the historical development of many articles—particularly those concerning academics, clinicians, artists, and other professionals whose entries are often drafted or initiated by colleagues, students, institutional affiliates, or individuals with some degree of familiarity with the subject. This is well documented in the platform’s edit histories.

My question was therefore specific: Are you asserting that all, or even the overwhelming majority, of biographical articles on Wikipedia have been written exclusively by people with no connection whatsoever to the individual? That is a strong claim, and one that can reasonably be examined and discussed.

I fully acknowledge the guidance regarding autobiographies and the need for strict reliance on independent, reliable sources. I also understand the challenges involved in maintaining neutrality when writing about oneself. However, these principles do not negate the factual reality that many articles have historically been initiated or shaped by individuals who were not entirely “independent” in the strictest sense.

My intention here is not to dispute policy, but to ensure that our discussion is grounded in accuracy and that broad generalizations are not presented as established fact. If the position is that Wikipedia prefers articles to be written by uninvolved editors, that is entirely understandable. But that is different from asserting that this is how the majority of articles have actually been produced.

I appreciate your answer and look forward to a constructive and policy‑based dialogue. Marcellomavi (talk) 12:21, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

There is a difference between familiarity with a topic and being connected to a topic/writing about yourself. Yes, people rarely write about topics at random- but a student writing about a professor at their university with whom they take no classes(without their knowledge) is different than writing about the professor for whom one works as a TA or work with as a colleague- or writing about themselves. That is a conflict of interest. Conflict of interest editing is not forbidden, either, but must be done according to policy. You're not forbidden from attempting to write about yourself, but it's not likely to succeed. I've been here many years and never personally seen it happen(though it probably has). 331dot (talk) 12:25, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

This comment is almost certainly AI generated, and I would challenge you to provide absolutely any evidence to your claim that "the platform's edit histories" show what you claim they do. Athanelar (talk) 12:46, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Here is your constructive, policy-based dialogue:

WP:CIR

For you to write anything on English Wikipedia, including on this page, you are required to write in English, in your own words. Your repeated use of AI tools in this discussion indicates that you regard yourself as lacking ability in English.

Therefore, please change the way you are doing things. If your own use of English is clumsy but understandable, that's perfectly fine - people here will appreciate your honest effort and we'll do our best to respond. If you do not use English at all except with the help of AI, then please leave the English Wikipedia, and consider using a different Wikipedia in a language you're familiar with. TooManyFingers (talk) 01:37, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Also, please refrain from using an AI to communicate with us here. We have no interest in talking to a chatbot. All user-to-user communication should be carried out in your own words. Athanelar (talk) 12:24, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

I am not using a chatbot. Having content reviewed by programs with AI functions does not mean that I am not contributing to the content. Everybody uses AI. I am a serious professional. I do not need lectures. The bottom line is that I have not been treated seriously and with here. Marcellomavi (talk) 02:34, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:45, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

I have never used AI to write anything anywhere.

You do need what you've called "lectures", because despite your professional competence, you have not yet approached a minimum standard of competence on Wikipedia. It takes time and experience. TooManyFingers (talk) 05:22, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Again, please refrain from insulting remarks. You have not sent one single iota of your feedback. Please refrain from making insulting remarks. Your feedback has not provided any useful information for someone trying to publish. There are several issues here: the site is confusing, and the responses come from individuals who do not reveal their identities or qualifications. I also have the distinct impression that you are arbitrarily creating obstacles to my publishing efforts. Nevertheless, I will follow the rules and ensure that my rights are respected. I will not give up. Thank you. Marcellomavi (talk) 12:14, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

You have no "rights" on this privately operated website. 331dot (talk) 12:30, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

A gentle note, @Marcellomavi, that this is a high-visibility page with lots of traffic, and your remarks in this thread are potentially professionally embarrassing considering they are tied to your real-life identity. I would strongly urge you to re-consider from posting further with your current attitude. qcne (talk) 12:34, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

I can take care of myself, since my image and reputation are solid and respected. The vagueness confusion and approximative logic in the answers and even the insulting attitude do not affect me. Moreover, professionalism implies that in a conversation among two individuals both parties reveal their own identities. This is not happening here. Also, it would have been professional if you had given me clear instructions about the criteria for your selection. Instead, I get comments like this (just to cite one): "your remarks in this thread are potentially professionally embarrassing considering they are tied to your real-life identity. I would strongly urge you to re-consider from posting further with your current attitude"; another comment from you: "You have no "rights" on this privately operated website". Please specify which are the embarrassing remarks. Also clarify if your referring to my not having any rights is related to me personally or to everybody and if means that your selection criteria vary according to your own preferences. In my view I have raised legitimate questions about lack of clarity on the selection process. However, if you want to give a positive twist to the conversation, please state clearly below the selection criteria for publication, and the process step by step to be considered for publication. Thanks! Marcellomavi (talk) 00:36, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

We are an encyclopedia. Essentially what we do is summarise topics that have been written about in secondary sources. We call this 'notability'. We have specific notability guidelines for things like corporations and people, and even more specific ones for academics for example. There are lots of other rules like WP:Verifiability and WP:No original research for example, but notability is our 'criteria for publication,' as you put it.

It's also important to note that we explicitly do not allow the things outlined at WP:What Wikipedia is not. This includes things like promotional articles and CVs. Athanelar (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

It should also be noted that should you meet Wikipedia notability criteria, and should a biography on you be created, you will have no editorial control over the content: like any other Wikipedia article, it will be open to all to edit, subject to the same policies and guidelines that apply to all articles. This may not necessarily be to your advantage. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:17, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Let me be perfectly clear that we are under absolutely no obligation to assist you in your "publishing efforts," because this is an encyclopedia, not a webhost for your CV. Athanelar (talk) 12:50, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanations. I want to reiterate that I am still working through the policies and I will continue to ask focused, policy‑relevant questions as I do so. Understanding how Wikipedia functions—its criteria, its editorial culture, and its limitations—is part of participating responsibly.

I am aware that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia built on secondary sources, not a platform for self‑promotion or personal narratives. I also understand the importance of notability, verifiability, and the prohibition on original research. My questions are directed at understanding how these principles are applied in practice, especially in cases where a professional trajectory spans multiple systems and countries.

I also recognize that Wikipedia is a collaborative environment where no individual has editorial control over an article. That is precisely why clarity matters. When policies are invoked, I want to understand them accurately rather than rely on assumptions or interpretations that may not reflect the written guidelines.

Regarding the repeated remarks about “using AI,” I want to be clear: nothing I have written violates any Wikipedia policy. Editors themselves routinely use automated tools, bots, and various forms of assistance. What matters is whether the content aligns with Wikipedia’s core policies—not the presence or absence of technological support. My engagement here is in good faith, and I will continue to ask questions until I fully understand the relevant standards.

My intention is not to challenge the purpose of the encyclopedia, but to understand how its policies are applied and how one is expected to navigate them. I will continue this process until I have the clarity I need. Marcellomavi (talk) 01:52, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

And we're back to the AI generated responses, after you've specifically been told to desist. Read WP:LLMCOMM. If you won't give us the basic dignity of actually talking to us in your own words, expect the same level of effort back. Athanelar (talk) 05:39, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Well said. This is a help desk, where answers are provided by volunteers. We are under no obligation to answer any particular question, and if people perfectly capable of communicating in their own words (which I would have to assume is true for Dr Maviglia, given his qualifications and his position at UNM) insist on spamming the page with vacuous and repetitive next-word-guesser-bot platitudes the most appropriate action is probably to ignore it. Dr Maviglia has been pointed to relevant policies, and can figure it out for himself. AndyTheGrump (talk) 10:58, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Donated $10-20 every few years and stopped getting "reminders" but now they're back. Annoying to say the least. ~2025-41339-18 (talk) 00:46, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your generosity. If you create a username and log in under this then you'll be able to opt out of such advertising. And you'll only have to log in again after a full year. -- Hoary (talk) 01:20, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Just to spell it out: there is no data link whatsoever between records of donations (which are made to The Wikimedia Foundation), and readers, IP/temporary account users (like you the OP, and myself), and fully signed up User account holders (like, for example, Hoary above) on Wikipedia. It is impossible for the software to know whether any person using any particular device, or someone logged in to a User Account, has or has not donated. (Wikipedia cannot read your mind.) This separation is deliberate, in part to eliminate any possibility of donations affecting editorial decisions.

As Hoary says, someone logged into a User account can switch off the display of the donation banners, but that is the only way not to be shown them. I have been seeing them for 20+ years, and I don't find it irksome to just close them. Why do they irritate some people so much? Do they get equally upset if they see an ad on the side of a bus for a charity they've already donated to? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 11:19, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

So, I'm working on a draft and did a major edit by basically adding every reference and changing a lot of stuff, so now I'm trying to save my page, and the captcha just isn't loading, I tried checking my internet, I got good connection, nothing wrong with the article and it just isn't loading? Gfroi (talk) 06:11, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that.

There is a known bug with the Captcha system used, hCaptcha; I believe a fix is imminent. Meanwhile there is a work-around which may help: "Upon clicking Publish changes again, the hCaptcha appears." See phab:T411927.

We always recommend making smaller changes, and saving more often, in case such things happen. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:59, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

alr I'll do that next time thanks

(This time the captcha loaded after abit, I'll keep this in mind tho Gfroi (talk) 14:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello! Just wanted to make sure I did this most recent edit request correctly. If not, feel free to revert it and let me know that I can do better in the future. Thanks, AirmanKItten203 (talk) 15:11, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

@Elijah Wilder It looks OK to me, though I must admit the content went right over my head as I'm not a gamer the terminology is unfamiliar. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:23, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Alright. Yeah, I somewhat understood it. It seems they were rewriting some of the sentences for the page in the request. Elijah Wilder (talk) 17:53, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

I have created a user box and i want to put it where the others are in the gallery. Motherwell6 (talk) 17:25, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Go to the page you want it to be displayed (for example Wikipedia:Userboxes/Location/Pakistan) and add it to the appropriate location using the template {{yy}}. -- Reconrabbit 21:41, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi! This attached link is the translated page of a prime ministerial candidate from the People's Party of Thailand for the upcoming election in the early February 2026, which is considered a public figure and widely known in Thailand now. As my account's capacity right now cannot publish the translated page yet, is there any suggestion or assistance for publishing this page? Thank you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslation?from=th&to=en&page=%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B0%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%98+%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%8D%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%8C%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%B9%E0%B8%89%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%A3 Garetktpz (talk) 09:50, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

You could always try the more manual approach of reading the sources from the Thai article and then rewriting the article content manually in English for the English article.

This is usually the better approach anyway; the English Wikipedia has the strictest standards for reliability of sources and verifiability of information, so it's good to look over the sources of the article you're trying to translate and make sure they actually provide enough suitable coverage to create an enwiki article. Athanelar (talk) 10:09, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

If you use "Settings" next to the Publish button, you should be able to save it as a draft rather than a new page. -- Reconrabbit 21:46, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm having the hardest time getting a table template to work properly. Need a "Nominated" and "Won" table for awards. Tried using the "nom" templage but I clearly don't understand why it won't display properly. BadMachine12 (talk) 00:57, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@BadMachine12 You will need to remove the vertical bar (|) before the template markup (e.g. | class="" Outstanding Special Directing| {{nom}} to | class="" Outstanding Special Directing {{nom}}). However, since class templates are not used in awards tables (and no need for repetition of category names in the same cell), you should remove the text before the template and leave it as |{{nom}}. It should display correctly after this. Jolly1253 (talk) 06:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

In Talk:Mangala (game), I requested that Mangala be moved to Mangala (Turkish game), as the name Mangala is also used for the African game Alemungula. I would appreciate it if someone could express their opinion on this matter. ~2025-41502-58 (talk) 17:12, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-41502-58, looks like you posted this only a few hours after submitting and other editors are now discussing your request. Blue Sonnet (talk) 07:21, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello!

I'm unable to log in. I've requested password reset to no avail. Please advise? ~2025-41518-36 (talk) 07:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

What happens when you request the password reset? TooManyFingers (talk) 07:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Kinda just curious ngl Gfroi (talk) 05:57, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

What for? TooManyFingers (talk) 06:21, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

what do u mean like why am i asking this or idk what kind of template Gfroi (talk) 06:23, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I meant what kind. Like, what's your actual plan, instead of just asking a random question. TooManyFingers (talk) 07:50, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

well I want to know since I might want to make one later Gfroi (talk) 07:55, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gfroi: See Help:Designing infoboxes. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:33, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I know in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style or on someone else's question somewhere on one of our help forums it was mentioned that for American topics(ex: Pittsburgh Steelers or Minnesota Vikings) we use American English, and for British topics we use British English. But, do we use American English or British English for universal articles(articles that are relevant to America, Britain, Canada etc)? RickyMiller28 (talk) 23:46, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

The answer is "Yes". For an article with no specific connection with American or British English, the rule is merely to choose one and stick with it for that article. TooManyFingers (talk) 00:39, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

If it's a universal topic, then the article stays in whichever variant it began with. That's why we have the article Orange (colour) instead of Orange (color): because somebody began it in British English. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:20, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I just wanted to know what our unwritten policy is. RickyMiller28 (talk) 13:30, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

WP:RETAIN is the policy.

Personally, I don't think it really matters. We could probably code something that changed regional spellings per reader's setting by now if we really cared. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:24, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

It doesn't matter on the large scale, but on the small scale it's strange to read an article that switches between spellings. TooManyFingers (talk) 05:29, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

But that would be a hassle to code for such a small issue, meaning imo it wouldn't really be worth it. It would be a nice Christmas present, but still it's a decent price, small payout situation. RickyMiller28 (talk) 13:29, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I submitted an article to be published this morning. What happens next and will I be notified by email or do I just keep checking in from time to time? SWJeff1750 (talk) 15:52, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

@SWJeff1750, you haven't submitted any draft for review. You need to press the big blue button to send it for review. However, for Draft:Stanley L. Robbins, I would advise against doing so, because it would get denied. You do not have any inline citations, which is an issue. For every piece of text in the draft, there must be a reference. You may wish to consult Help:Referencing for beginners. win8x (talk) 15:57, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @SWJeff1750.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I really appreciate your extremely helpful feedback. I know this is a really basic question, but where/how do I find what I've written so I can begin to take the necessary steps to submit it again? Thank you again for your mentorship and guidance. JMRSW (talk) 17:32, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

In the very first response to your original question, there's a link to where your work is. Unless I'm misunderstanding something. TooManyFingers (talk) 19:57, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, why are SWJeff1750, JMRSW, and Jeffers1750 all acting as if they're the author of Draft:Stanley L. Robbins when only the OP of this section has contributed to it? Does the same person control all three accounts? What is happening here? - Purplewowies (talk) 20:47, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any explicit misuse so no SPI, might be worth asking on their Talk page - I'm guessing they got confused or lost their password or something? Blue Sonnet (talk) 07:19, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I was openly floating the question rather than stating there was a problem because it definitely didn't look SPI-ish; I just thought maybe I was missing something obvious. *files away note to maybe ask on talk page when it's not past my bedtime* - Purplewowies (talk) 07:47, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Nah, it's always worth checking if you're not sure! Blue Sonnet (talk) 14:28, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

She was born in 1970 and was an actress, I might be connected to her as my Grandmother Hertha Healy, hiw would I contact her? Lacy65 (talk) 17:26, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia. We cannot help you with contact information. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:06, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Presumably this is Frances Healy (note spelling)? If so, that article has a link at its foot (under External links) to a 2017 archived version of her official website, which has contact details on it, though these might be out of date.

However, as AndyTheGrump says, this was not the appropriate place to make such a query; a better one would have been the Entertainment reference desk. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 14:59, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi, Someone made a wikipedia page for me -- I approved the text but when he posted it the refernces were completely insane and wrong -- they had nothing to do with what he was citing. I think he is a bot or something. Can I get the page taken down? ~2025-41342-36 (talk) 20:32, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

It would help people understand the context if you could link the page you are talking about (because it would let people know what is on the page and if it needs fixing)... but at any rate, you should not be "approving" the text of any article you have a conflict of interest about, including one about yourself. You may want to read this guide: Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide - Purplewowies (talk) 20:35, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Sounds to me like you were a victim of a WP:SCAM. I hope you haven't handed over any money. Athanelar (talk) 01:55, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

". . . the references were completely insane and wrong". This is a classic symptom of someone having used an AI/LLM to create the article (which would have taken near-zero effort), because such programs frequently "hallucinate" references – they know what a reference looks like, but not actually being intelligent they often can't find a real source and if they do often can't create a correct citation to it.

This is why Wikipedia deprecates the use of AI to aid in creating articles, and queries and replies on Desks, etc. (not that you yourself, OP, have done either of these things). Commiserations. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 14:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

FYI, the more applicable link re:AI not being allowed for article creation is WP:NEWLLM Athanelar (talk) 14:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. I couldn't remember what it was and didn't find it by searching. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 15:09, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I recently designed a user box that says "1 of the # of active editors on Wikipedia" and was wondering if it was possible to turn it into a template. If so, is it allowed? Thanks, Elijah Wilder (talk) 15:13, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@Elijah Wilder: You can make it a user subpage like User:Elijah Wilder/UBX/1 of active and transclude it with {{User:Elijah Wilder/UBX/1 of active}}Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia/Personal statistics#One of many users already lists {{User 1ofActive}} so I don't think you should save it in the template namespace or add it to a userbox gallery. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:04, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thank you! Elijah Wilder (talk) 16:39, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1328237006

Reference help requested.

I am fairly new to Wikipedia editing and I have gotten an error about a "missing title". I don't understand what it means, nor haven't I gotten an error like this before in my previous citations. Can someone please explain how to fix it?

Thanks, My dog Stepped On a bee (talk) 18:19, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, the reference you added only has the "url", "access-date", and "website" filled out. You should add a "title" either in the source editor with |title= or in the visual editor by editing the inline citation directly. In this case the title should probably be "Ağ Haritaları". -- Reconrabbit 18:58, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @My dog Stepped On a bee: Fill out the "Title" field when editing the reference in VisualEditor, e.g. with Ağ Haritaları. In this case, also look for "Translated title" in the left pane. I don't know Turkish but Google Translate says Network Maps. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:00, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Willing, but must be able to do so with no name, etc: just a place to put the necessary info- numbers- from a gift card. "create an account"! Heh. ~2025-41633-33 (talk) 22:35, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-41633-33, you do not have to create an account to donate. It's actually completely independent from a Wikipedia account, and the two cannot be linked together. To donate, simply visit https://donate.wikimedia.org/. Have a good one. win8x (talk) 22:36, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I've been the type of person to make massive changes per edit for some articles. However, I think some broke it down and made an edit for every part of the article they changed. Are we allowed to do this? For example, when copyediting an article, can we press "submit changes" per section of the article, and then do the same with the next section? How about per sentence? Where is the line drawn? Wikieditor662 (talk) 17:26, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

It's not considered good Wikiquette to make huge changes to an article in a single edit, or to make large numbers of very small edits. The ideal approach is somewhere in between, explaining the edits in the edit summary as you go along.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:32, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

It's not considered good Wikiquette to make huge changes to an article in a single edit wait really? I thought it would've been the opposite. Why not?

The ideal approach is somewhere in between, explaining the edits in the edit summary as you go along. How do you quantify that exactly? Wikieditor662 (talk) 19:36, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

My personal best practice is to only edit one section of an article at a time. That way there usually isn't an overwhelming amount of changes for any other editor who wants to review my work to look at, and I can leave an edit summary that's clear about what I was doing. What I don't like about making a lot of changes at one time is that there's (probably) no way your edit summary can really say what you did, and something like "improvements" doesn't help anyone. DonIago (talk) 19:46, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea, thank you for your help! Wikieditor662 (talk) 19:51, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

One important reason: if anything needs to be reverted, they have to revert your entire edit, even if parts of it were OK. Editing in "a chunk that should all be reverted together, if necessary" is not a bad alternate way of thinking about it. TooManyFingers (talk) 19:54, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

But then why is it problematic to break down your edits into even smaller changes (eg per sentence or edit)? Wikieditor662 (talk) 19:56, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Partly because having to revert one electron at a time is only slightly better? :) TooManyFingers (talk) 19:59, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Might as well revert one quark or plank length at a time. Wikieditor662 (talk) 20:13, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

You'll walk the Planck for spelling it that way! :) TooManyFingers (talk) 23:02, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

There are numerous articles where I've made far too many tiny edits. TooManyFingers (talk) 20:01, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Not really etiquette related, but long single edits run the risk of WP:edit conflicts. Also more change of the session being broken. I tend to make a lot more smaller edits and that's fine, so long as your mission isn't simply to get a large edit count. See WP:editcountitis for more details. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:27, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Is there any guide or policy that we could add onto, that would say that you shouldn't have more than one section per edit? Wikieditor662 (talk) 01:33, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

No, because there are times when editing the whole article is still the right thing to do. (For example if the subject's name is spelled wrong in a lot of places). TooManyFingers (talk) 02:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

What if we said that but added exceptions, such as the one you just named? Wikieditor662 (talk) 02:43, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm not an expert in this, so I don't have a useful opinion on that; I hope others will add to this discussion.

There is a Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) page for suggesting changes, but please see the instructions posted there about how to get started (checking to see if your proposal has already been made, and so on). TooManyFingers (talk) 02:53, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I suggested it here, and I appreciate your help. Wikieditor662 (talk) 03:12, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

How about writing an essay? We use those all the time to help explain things that aren't official policies/guidelines but are still good practice - the best ones get used frequently, like Wikipedia:Large language models or Wikipedia:1AM.

No harm in adding to the list, but maybe check if we've already got one because there are loads!

If there is an existing essay, l you can add to it - especially if it's got a good redirect that people are likely to use. Blue Sonnet (talk) 07:29, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

How about adding it onto Help:Editing? (Also for your LLM essay, I think there's currently an RfC as to whether to add something like it to a guideline). Wikieditor662 (talk) 15:52, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Sounds like an idea! You'd have to keep it short, maybe a paragraph or two so the article stays balanced. If it gets longer, branch out into a new essay. A lot of this sounds like it's a "know it when you see it" situation or is down to experience, so boiling things down to a couple of paragraphs might not be feasible...

We need more AI P&G's IMO, we've got Wikipedia:NEWLLM & Wikipedia:AITALK but AI is rampant & Wikipedia:WikiProject AI Cleanup is getting busier every day. I frequently help out on unblock appeals and it feels like over half are AI-generated. But that's another topic... Blue Sonnet (talk) 00:36, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

One important reason: if anything needs to be reverted, they have to revert your entire edit, even if parts of it were OK. Not true, TooManyFingers. In this edit, I added very roughly 70 kB to an article, and I make no apology for having done so. (Indeed, I remain rather pleased with the edit. I'm pretty sure that other editors thought it was for the good, as much of it survived in the version promoted to GA.) If you'd thought my new version was an improvement over its predecessor other than for having degraded this or that section, paragraph or whatever (let's call that SPW), you could have looked at the previous version, copied the SPW as it appeared there, looked at the new version, deleted its SPW, and pasted the old SPW in its place. Easy. -- Hoary (talk) 08:10, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

OK, good point. So, is this whole conversation moot, except for "try to do things in a reasonable way"? TooManyFingers (talk) 18:18, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I think there is some truth in One important reason: if anything needs to be reverted, they have to revert your entire edit, even if parts of it were OK. If editor A thinks that a large edit is so bad that it should be reverted, then using the undo function undoes the entire edit. If the large edit is split into smaller edits, editor A might decide to undo just one of them or they might still undo all of them. TSventon (talk) 23:58, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I haven't given it much thought, TooManyFingers. But I suspect that a comment that would be helpful both for the editor hoping to make sweeping changes to an article and for other editors likely to edit the article would not be a single-sentence rule of thumb, but instead would factor in the expected rapidity of others' response(s) to the edit(s), and the experience and skill of the ambitious editor. (Editors are of course not the best judges of their own skillfulness.) -- Hoary (talk) 00:46, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

I do not like being asked for money period and I want it to stop period..What I put in the browser dose not have to be answered by you but stop being the first one there let me alone period. ~2025-40636-03 (talk) 07:00, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

We have no control over the WMF's donation begging (and most of us would rather prefer they stop doing it and torquing people off.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 07:27, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

See WP:NOBANNER, as being a logged in user rather than an IP user is the best way to avoid this.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:56, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

You say: What I put in the browser dose not have to be answered by you but stop being the first one there. The meaning isn't entirely clear, but I think it's "A question that I ask the browser [and that it passes on to a search engine, e.g. Google] doesn't have to be answered by you, so stop being the first on the list." If I'm right, then you have a beef with the search engine, not with Wikipedia. If you consistently avoid clicking on the links to Wikipedia, then the search engine is likely to adjust your filter bubble accordingly. -- Hoary (talk) 08:36, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Alternatively you could end every search query with this exact phrase: -wiki which should instruct your browser/search engine to ignore Wikipedia altogether, and probably Wikimedia Commons as well.
For example, search for world's biggest round barn -wiki and you would probably get no links to our article World's Largest Round Barn. On the other hand, Google deliberately doesn't give results for Archive.org (the Internet Archive), so if you want your browser to list those results, end your query with +archive MinorProphet (talk) 01:11, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

I am not giving you a dime it is not issues if you are the first non scholarly source then so be it. ~2025-41507-46 (talk) 01:37, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

We're not the ones asking, it's the Wikimedia Foundation. If you create an account, you can turn off fhe donation requests in your account preferences. 331dot (talk) 01:57, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello everyone, quick question: should poke cake be added to the Poke disambiguation page under the food section? It isn't currently listed. ~2025-40984-91 (talk) 22:20, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I'd say it makes sense to do so. Add it, and if you get reverted, start a discussion on the talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:31, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm glad I looked at the article, and glad there are disambiguation pages. I was thinking a cake topped with raw fish in savory sauce would be an odd idea. TooManyFingers (talk) 04:35, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello all. It’s been a while, hasn’t it? I suffered from some burnout, and I’ve been on a complete WikiBreak since May, nor have I edited much since early last year (also May, as it happens). Thankfully I believe that the burnout phase is no more, because I’ve been missing this place like crazy. Did any major policy changes occur when I was gone? I’m carefully trying to relearn everything. ◇HelenDegenerate◆ 21:20, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Welcome back! Off the top of my head, the major changes in the last few months are the WP:NEWLLM guideline, and (because you're a CSD patroller), U5 has been replaced by U6 and U7 – details at WP:U5FAQ. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 22:47, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@HelenDegenerate What I did coming back from my break (although it wasn't as long), was to read the administrator's newsletter, relevant to me because I do antivandalism (aka policy) work. Seems like it's the case for you too. Here are a couple of highlights:

• CSD U5 no longer exists, replaced by the much more restrictive U6 and U7.
• CSD G15 is a thing, for LLM articles. We also have a new (short) guideline, WP:NEWLLM. In general, I think so, LLMs are much more common here. Feel free to hat any LLM talk page comment per WP:AITALK.
• Temporary accounts were introduced in November, replacing IPs. You can still view IPs with a button, if you have the necessary permission, WP:TAIV (to apply). It's pretty easy to get. You cannot expose the IP of a TA publicly.

That's what I can think of. I'm sure there's more, but that's what I've got. win8x (talk) 22:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

That's a much better summary than mine. How could I have forgotten G15 and TAs?! ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 22:52, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I had forgotten about G15 too, to be fair win8x (talk) 22:55, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

HelenDegenerate, I think other editors have updated you on important changes. As an administrator who often patrols WP:UAA, I remember how accurate and well-formatted your reports there were. Welcome back! Cullen328 (talk) 05:24, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

User:Batong1930 User talk:Batong1930

has made many deletes that need reviewing

Special:Contributions/Batong1930

Piñanana (talk) 11:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Nobody is going to 'review' anything based on that. This is a help desk, for answering questions regarding how to use Wikipedia. It is not a place for vague complaints about other contributors. If there is a serious specific issue, and discussing it with the contributor gets nowhere, you could consider raising it at WP:ANI, providing the necessary diffs and other details. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:31, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

I have strange errors when trying to view images these few weeks. I didn't know when the error started, but at first I thought it is just a temporary "bug" and it will sort by itself. So the errors are as follows:

1. Everything is normal when I am reading an article. Images will display with no problems at all.
2. But when I clicked on the image, it displayed for a few microseconds (less than a second) then it gave me "Sorry, the file cannot be displayed" There seems to be a technical issue. The error are as follows:

   Sorry, the file cannot be displayed There seems to be a technical issue. You can retry if it persists. Error: could not load image from https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/F-22_Raptor_edit1_%28cropped%29.jpg/1280px-F-22_Raptor_edit1_%28cropped%29.jpg. The image in question is in the F22 Raptor main image.

3. Directly clicking the link above showed the image with no problem, but going to F22 Raptor and click the same image will reproduce the error above.
4. Going to the image itself in Commons at here showed no problems.

Thank you for your help! ✠ SunDawn ✠ Contact me! 07:44, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

@SunDawn: It sounds like a problem with our Media Viewer on your system. It works for me and I haven't seen other reports. I dont know the cause but you can disable "Enable Media Viewer" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. Then an image click goes directly to the file page. It always did before we got Wikipedia:Media Viewer in 2014. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:29, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

If a game released into early access in Sept 2025 but hasn't released in full yet (with no official date) should it be referred to as a "2025" or "upcoming" game? Basically, should early access count as a release date? Thanks, Chorchapu (talk | edits) 23:26, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Given that video games routinely stay in 'early access' for years (Star Citizen has been that way for getting on for a decade), and a good few never get beyond that, I don't see any reason not to treat any release that actually lets people play when they hand over their dosh as sufficient to treat the game as a current product. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:47, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Alright, thank you. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 00:50, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Additionally, if it ever does fully release, it's probably not unprecedented to do something like January 1, 2000 (early access)[break]January 1, 3000 (full release) in the infobox for a game with a significant early access period. (I say this as someone who does not frequent video game articles and also can't bring to mind any games with an early access period (that aren't still in early access) I can check.) - Purplewowies (talk) 01:07, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@Purplewowies We'll have to wait nearly a thousand years to make that change, though! David10244 (talk) 06:45, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

I usually think of "hoax" as a false claim that something happened. But this is clearly an example where game companies are creating hoaxes that certain things didn't happen. TooManyFingers (talk) 19:58, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Erica Brown ~2025-41790-83 (talk) 17:59, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-41790-83. Only Administrators can delete pages. You could start a Articles for Deletion discussion on that article, and then other Wikipedia editors will assess if it should be deleted or not. qcne (talk) 18:03, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

WP:AFD, but taking a look at the article, it's unclear to me why you'd want to delete it and you may be facing an uphill battle. DonIago (talk) 18:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

@Doniago Well, as written there are no independent sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Ah, whoops. I misread that part. Good point! DonIago (talk) 20:40, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

The short answer is by following the steps at WP:AFDHOWTO, and seeing what happens. You'll need help at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion but the delay shouldn't be too long. You would be well advised to read at least WP:BEFORE and WP:GNG first, framing your nomination statement accordingly. ~2025-41540-19 (talk) 19:09, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

how can I donate to Wikipedia? ~2025-41771-55 (talk) 20:33, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-41771-55 see https://donate.wikimedia.org/. However, I would suggest that the Wikimedia Foundation has enough money at the moment and does not need further donations. qcne (talk) 20:35, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

I need a help to do the password because I am a child ~2025-41771-87 (talk) 20:48, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Does Musquodoboit Harbour, Nova Scotia and Musquodoboit Harbour refer to the same topic? If so, please merge. TIA, Versions111 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@Versions111: you have linked the same article twice. According to the articles, Musquodoboit Harbour, Nova Scotia is a community and Musquodoboit Harbour is a harbour. TSventon (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

In the article "Dissociative disorder", there is a problem with the excerpts that I have recently added to the Classification section, namely, that the spacing after these excerpts and the following section headings is smaller than between a normal paragraph and a section heading. Might I have missed some crucial detail? BlockArranger (talk) 01:58, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't believe you've missed anything; I think that's just how it goes. It might be possible to clumsily manipulate the results by disabling the spacing using |inline=yes and then creating your own spacing and then manually re-inserting the hatnotes that were accidentally disabled in the process, but that's all going to confuse the next person who comes along thinking "why would anyone do that?". Plus I don't even know if it would work. TooManyFingers (talk) 06:57, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Is there someone more technically minded than me who can figure out what's going on at Komsomolsky, Komi Republic, Severny, Komi Republic, Vorgashor, Mulda, Russia, and Zapolyarny, Komi Republic? In all 4 articles infobox formatting is completely whacked out, it's taking up way too much space on the page, and I can't for the life of me see what's causing it. Seems to be a running theme with the satellite settlements of Vorkuta, I'll poke around and see if I find any more. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:21, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I think they're being fed data from WikiData, based on the way the template code is written, but I'm not entirely clear on why. Template talk:Infobox Russian inhabited locality#population_est might also be relevant to why it's doing this sometimes and not others but I'm not sure? - Purplewowies (talk) 05:41, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

That's what had me confused. If you look at the infobox for Vorkuta (you can tell I'm honed in on a really uplifting subject right now!) it looks perfectly normal, but all of those are a mess. It's bad enough on a computer screen, I checked it out in mobile and it renders the pages borderline unreadable. Glad it's not just me here. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:56, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@The Blade of the Northern Lights: On Komsomolsky, Komi Republic, I clicked "Tools", "Wikidata item", "edit" at the most recent population estimate, (circle to the left of the number), "preferred rank", "publish". This caused an up arrow to be colored instead of the circle. Now the article only shows that estimate and looks good. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:03, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Just tried this on Severny, and confirmed this works; no idea why, but it definitely works. I'll clean up the others I linked here and any more I come across, thanks! The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:36, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

If a TA's only two posts are to ask for hot, young singles in their area (paraphrasing), do you think it's best to:

1. warn, wait and see,
2. report to noticeboard, or
3. ping an admin?

I'm going with #1 for now, #2 I'm not sure which board it would fall under (AIV?) and #3 seems overzealous...

They posted on the Talk of a blocked user - I thought it was them originally but now I'm starting to think it's just a random page they found. They replied to a comment from months ago, to an admin who's no longer active/adminning so it's all a bit random... Blue Sonnet (talk) 13:02, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I pieced together what you're dealing with, and it's something you can either bring up with an individual admin or at the incidents noticeboard. If it's something more sensitive/explicit than this, e-mail oversight. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:44, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I was a bit wary of putting direct links on a public noticeboard and figured that experienced editors would be able to check my history to see what was going on - thank you! Blue Sonnet (talk) 15:49, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I've created Draft:The Embrace (Die Umarmung) and would like to expand it further. There are additional sources available, including:  ;  ;  ;  ;  ;  ;  ;  ;  ; . I'd greatly appreciate any contributions from those interested. ~2025-41850-20 (talk) 15:25, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-41850-20: I've moved the page to Draft:The Embrace (painting). The title shouldn't include alternative names, which must be redirects, but needs to be disambiguated from the sculpture by Hank Willis Thomas. You don't mention the German name in the current text. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:39, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

The episode list at Barney_Miller#Episodes uses the colon trick to embed a table from List of Barney Miller episodes, but the season anchors in the table point to (nonexistent) anchors in the Barney Miller article, not the List... article where the table actually lives. How do I get the season anchors in the table to point to the corresponding section in the List? HalJor (talk) 17:31, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

See how you did the very first link in your message here? "List of Barney Miller episodes#Season 1 (1975)" should do the same. Is that what you wanted? TooManyFingers (talk) 17:41, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Oh ... I think maybe I didn't understand the trick here. TooManyFingers (talk) 17:46, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

A side question: Aren't there just too many levels of Barney Miller pages? I don't think there's anything to justify having three levels of pages, and that two would be just as good (and easier for readers). TooManyFingers (talk) 17:51, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@HalJor: Fixed by . PrimeHunter (talk) 17:53, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I was looking at the article Boston Blue and I noticed someone had written in plot synopses for many of the episodes. It was clear to me that these were not written originally and were possibly copy-pasted from somewhere else.

I reverted it here, but thought it would be wise to report it as a possible copyright violation. I haven't done something like this before.

Could someone please guide me in the right direction?

Thanks! Urbanracer34 (talk) 14:58, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

If it's really what happened in the story, it's not wrong. The story is its own evidence. But if they did plagiarize some other plot summary, then it had to be cut. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:20, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I feel it was a copy paste job, I just don't know where from, and they also got characters names incorrectly.

I remember this from a different article: "Episode summaries must be expressed in your own words. Do NOT submit content you find from another web site as it is plagiarism and likely a copyright violation, which Wikipedia cannot accept and will be removed or reverted. Superficially modifying copyrighted content or closely paraphrasing it, even if the source is cited, still constitutes a copyright violation. Summaries should be about 100 to 200 words in length, per MOS:TVPLOT, and those substantially less than 100 words are most likely to be scrutinized for possible copyright violation."

What do we think? Urbanracer34 (talk) 18:25, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

About making a copyvio report, Wikipedia:Text copyright violations 101 may help. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:34, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Here's the thing: I don't have a source from where these plot summaries were from, so I don't know how to proceed. Urbanracer34 (talk) 18:43, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Urbanracer34, someone wrote those plot summaries. Unless you can find evidence that they were previously published elsewhere, the presumption has to be that they were written by the Wikipedia editor who added them. Cullen328 (talk) 19:10, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I didn't think of it that way. I will roll back my edit right away. Thanks for the insight. Urbanracer34 (talk) 19:25, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@Cullen328 Hello! I am fairly positive I have a copyvio on the above article. The listing for the episode "Collateral Damage" is almost 100% copied from here. Other entries may be impacted such as "Rites of Passage", "Baggage Claim", and "Code of Ethics." Here's my source for this claim:

Where do I go from here? Urbanracer34 (talk) 15:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Now that there's evidence, Wikipedia:Text copyright violations 101 does become quite helpful. It seems to me the type of page that may look daunting but actually has fairly straightforward instructions if you try them out. TooManyFingers (talk) 17:36, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers I gave it the best job I could. Please let me know if I did it right. Urbanracer34 (talk) 18:28, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

The people who receive your notice are far more qualified to tell you that. If anything was missing or incorrect, they'll explain. TooManyFingers (talk) 20:44, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks! Urbanracer34 (talk) 20:48, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to edit. Somebody just killed Rob Reiner. It has to do with All In The Family, and Spinal Tap. They should allow us to talk about things in the Talk pages. People want to do it. Just don't hook it to Facebook.

I would like to learn how to edit, and how to use the Talk pages. Could somebody please help me with that? Foundation360 (talk) 17:09, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@Foundation360: Rob Reiner was killed six days ago and the article was immediately updated. We are not going to mention his death in every article about his works. If you have seen a page which needs an update then please link it. See Help:Talk pages. We are an encyclopedia, not social media. Our article talk pages are for discussing improvements to the article, not general discussion about the subject. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:22, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Talk pages are never for chat. They're only for talking about ways to improve the page they're attached to. You SHOULD talk about Rob Reiner with people if you want to, but you can't do it on Wikipedia. It's like going to a pharmacy and asking for welding equipment: there's nothing wrong with wanting that, but it's the wrong place. TooManyFingers (talk) 17:28, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Ok. Perhaps I could edit the article with some news articles. I am looking at your Barney Miller stuff. I have trouble understanding this stuff, though. I would like to learn how to edit some stuff. Foundation360 (talk) 18:43, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I have left some links to guidance and tutorials, on Your talk page. The latter is a good place to start. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:02, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks you. Foundation360 (talk) 21:04, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

When I was on a wiki page, I posted a question and somebody deleted it because it wasn't quite related enough. I posted the question who do you think Ginny should've ended up with on the Talk:Ginny Weasley page. My question is: is there a page for users to post opinion questions for other users to answer, similar to the type of question I posted and had taken off the wall? Thank you so much for your help! ~2025-42084-31 (talk) 00:56, 21 December 2025 (UTC) ~2025-42084-31 (talk) 00:55, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Answered at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Where can I post the questions I want to discuss with other users? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:58, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a place to ask opinionated questions. There are several social media outlets that do allow you to ask such questions, such as Reddit. If you wish to ask a factual question regarding an article, please consult the reference desk. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 01:00, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

I also want to increase the amount of my monthly donation. I don’t know how to find my account so I can do that. Please help. Contact my email at (redacted) ~2025-40438-27 (talk) 20:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

We cannot help with donation queries - please contact the Foundation directly at donate@wikimedia.org. qcne (talk) 20:31, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I have removed your email address for your protection, you should not post it in this very public place. Wikipedia accounts and donations are completely separate issues; one doesn't have to do with the other. 331dot (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-40438-27: See also https://wikimediafoundation.org/give/manage-your-donation/ which gives the same address as mentioned above. It's optional to store an email address in an account but you can try entering your address at Special:PasswordReset. If you did create an account and store that address then a mail will be sent. But it will not help with donations since they are separate from user accounts. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:35, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

When I dropped my Mac in a bucket, I found myself having to buy a new Mac, and my last back-up apparently did not include my current Wikipedia log-in password. When I hit the "forgot password" link, it sent me a message with a temporary password, which does not seem to work either. I don't know whether this has to do with Two-Factor or not. ~2025-41941-72 (talk) 23:33, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-41941-72: What happens when you try to log in with the temporary password? Try it again. If you get an error meassage then post it. Did your account have two-factor authentication? Few do. If you're not aware of it then it probably didn't. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I do have two-factor. I get "Incorrect username or password entered. Please try again." and "Login processing now uses our domain auth.wikimedia.org. If you are using blocking software, you will need to allow access to this domain to log in." ~2025-41941-72 (talk) 00:27, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-41941-72: Try again at meta: when you can get a new temporary password. If it still fails then what is your username? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:54, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I am embarrassed to admit that I am User:Orangemike. --~2025-41941-72 (talk) 02:58, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Where at Meta???? --~2025-41941-72 (talk) 01:07, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

At the "Log in" link. Or go directly to https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:UserLogin. I just wanted you to try another path. That sometimes works if a browser has stored something wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:56, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Nope. ~2025-41941-72 (talk) 02:55, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

When you just say "nope", then a sensible person assumes you're done with this and you don't want help anymore. Is that true? TooManyFingers (talk) 03:47, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

That's not what I assume, @TooManyFingers. But I agree that the response is unhelpfully terse. ColinFine (talk) 15:10, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry; didn't mean to be unhelpful. I had tried that, and alas! it did not help. --~2025-41941-72 (talk) 16:14, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Your best bet is probably to go through m:Help:Account recovery. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:10, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

The article John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts was recently moved to Kennedy Center. The talk page moved with it, but an archived talk page, Talk:John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts/Archive 1 wasn't moved. I assume that this should have happened automatically when the article + current talk were moved (if I'm wrong about that, please correct me). Should I move the archived page myself, or is there a better way to talk care of it? If I move it myself, it's unclear to me how to make sure that the archived talk page shows up at the top of the current talk page. Thanks, FactOrOpinion (talk) 02:55, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Seems fixed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:09, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Looks like Graham87 moved it and then fixed the archiving code. Glad it's resolved, and Graham87, thanks for your help. FactOrOpinion (talk) 21:28, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@FactOrOpinion: No worries. {{Talk header}}, which is used on that article's talk page, will automatically detect when an archive subpage exists under a page's current title. So will {{archives}}. Graham87 (talk) 03:31, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a user on it.wikipedia. Despite an advanced (but I wouldn't define it as fluent) knowledge of the English language, I've always avoided editing on en.wikipedia, since I inevitably make many errors as I write in English (you can assess my level by this message, that I'm writing completely on my own without any machine-translation help). Today I tried an experiment though, translating in English an article which I had written on it.wikipedia some years ago about an Holocaust survivor. Then of course I reviewed the translation, paying attention that there were no allucinations and changes in the meaning of the texts. The result is this one (I know, there is no introductory paragraph, there are no references, and so on, it's just an experiment, I would clearly add them before publishing it in the main namespace).
What I wanted to ask is: would such an article have an acceptable language level to be published on en.wiki? And generally speaking, would it be acceptable to edit en.wiki in a similar way? Thank you in advance, --Friniate ✉ 22:34, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

There are a few minor problems ("jewish" not being capitalized one time; "Faculty of Engineering" being capitalized, some weird phrasing ["with ownership interests held by Giovanni Agnelli", "offered him collaboration", "forced into labour", "also the US citizenship"]; "prefect of Parma", which should be capitalized; unnecessary "together" in "moved together"; and Stolperstein should be italicized. Other than that and lacking a lede section, it looks fine. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:55, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend Thank you very much! Some of these errors are actually my fault since the phrasing provided by the AI looked strange to me.

Generally speaking do you think that it would be acceptable to edit on en.wiki with a similar language level, or is it better if I do something else? --Friniate ✉ 01:39, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Your writing is better than 90% of the stuff I see here, so keep at it. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:44, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend oh, okay, thank you very much! :-) --Friniate ✉ 09:22, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Model #1F1ETWS43B ~2025-41931-92 (talk) 02:02, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello. This is a helpdesk for question about using and editing Wikipedia, not for any other kind of question. Sorry. ColinFine (talk) 09:58, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Good evening,

Apologies if this is not the place to enquire about this sort of issue, but I am having trouble trying to reset the password of an old Wikipedia account of mine. I still have access to the email address attached to the account but the username and password are unfamiliar to me. When I send a request for a password reset, an email is never received on my end. I was curious to know why and perhaps it’s because it’s an old account which may have been decommissioned. It would be much appreciated if you (or if you could send me elsewhere to enquire about this) could please help me with this.

Thank you very much. ~2025-41727-33 (talk) 07:25, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-41727-33: Accounts are never decommissioned. It's optional to store an email address in an account so maybe you didn't, or used another address. Try checking spam folders or think of any other address it might have been. If you don't know the password and cannot receive emails for the account then you have to create another account. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:24, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

My article was declined on December 14 because it only referenced primary sources and read like an advert. I added secondary and evern Teritary sources. Is it ready to be published? BilltheBison (talk) 04:40, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Every single source presently appears to be a press release (a primary source). Are you sure you added more secondary sources? - Purplewowies (talk) 05:26, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

The first 5 references are primary sources, the majority are secondary sources, the last reference is Teritary BilltheBison (talk) 05:51, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Your sources are all company-written product manuals and specifications, which are primary and non-independent sources. Please see WP:42 for a summary of what we expect. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:12, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

To be more clear, a Wikipedia article about a product should mainly summarize what reliable sources who are unaffiliated with the company have written about the product (e.g. in product reviews or published books). If independent reliable sources have not chosen to write about it, then no article has possible. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:21, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Secondary doesn't just mean the subject didn't write it. It also means the subject had no influence and no input. TooManyFingers (talk) 21:52, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

do not continue begging for donations you not have to pop up in my searches at all leave me alone Veda boggs (talk) 05:17, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Veda boggs. Wikipedia editors have nothing whatsoever to do with fundraising. That is handled by the Wikimedia Foundation. Please read Wikipedia:Suppress display of the fundraising banner. Cullen328 (talk) 06:10, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

how do I cancel my account Badwolf 1966 (talk) 06:55, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

You don't - if you want to leave, you just leave. TooManyFingers (talk) 07:58, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

@Badwolf 1966 The closest thing we have to "cancelling" an account is Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:44, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Your user contributions show that you have made only one edit which is here on the Help desk page, so it hardly matters anyway.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:56, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Having set up by hand 19 numbered archives for User talk:Hoary, I arranged for "Miszabot" (i.e. Lowercase sigmabot III) to continue the job as it became necessary ("|counter=19"). Which it obligingly did.

Thrilled by this success, I arranged for "Miszabot" (i.e. Lowercase sigmabot III) to archive Talk:Henri Cartier-Bresson, Talk:Martin Parr, Talk:Hiroh Kikai, and Talk:Teikō Shiotani. None already had an archive, so I presumed that "|counter=0" would be required; however, the examples in User:MiszaBot/config for starting the archiving process instead have "|counter=1", and so, incredulously but obediently, I specified that.

Over 24 hours have passed, but no archiving has occurred. I've looked through "Causes of no archiving" but still don't notice what I've done wrong. What stupid mistake(s) have I made? -- Hoary (talk) 00:07, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

@Hoary: The archive parameter should be a subpage like |archive = Talk:Henri Cartier-Bresson/Archive %(counter)d, not |archive = Talk:Henri Cartier-Bresson %(counter)d. Talk:Hiroh Kikai is correct and it did archive. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:38, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Well, duh. I plead senility. Thank you, PrimeHunter! -- Hoary (talk) 01:21, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

That's why in preview, it said "Preview warning: Page using User:MiszaBot/config with archive parameter not a subpage". One could argue that this should be visible in read-mode also, since it explains a reader-visible situation. DMacks (talk) 09:22, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

I have linked WP:SUB on "subpage" in the instructions. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:46, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Could someone step in and comment on this discussion? It has already been reposted because there aren't enough opinions on the matter. ~2025-42341-94 (talk) 10:26, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Can anyone please figure out how to fix the giant width of the infobox in Suna, Sunsky District, Kirov Oblast. I guess it's due to the many population estimates (and the fact that we have one more estimated pop# than date in that table - presumably the cause of the "Expression error: Unexpected number"). I don't see where that list comes from, so I guess it's being added (from wikidata?) by some transcluded template. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 16:01, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Finlay McWalter. This sounds as if it may be the same issue as #Help with infobox formatting above. ColinFine (talk) 16:36, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, ColinFine, it sure does. @PrimeHunter: - can you get your fix to work on the Suna article too? I can't see a "preferred rank" thing to pick in its wikidata. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 16:50, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@Finlay McWalter: After clicking "edit" at the most recent population estimate, you have to click a small circle (not a rectangle) in an icon to the left of the number. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:08, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:, a found it (that's a tiny circle indeed), and it's fixed it. Thank you. I'll mooch around the neighbourhood and see if there's any others with this issue. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 17:12, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't know Wikidata at all, is there a place either there or here on enwiki that we can bring some broader attention to this? I highly doubt this one article and the satellite settlements of Vorkuta are the only affected articles. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:05, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I found a bunch more (linked from the navbox of that article). I "fixed" a few, but really it's a bit of a cargo cult solution (when we don't really know what we're doing, or why it really works). It may well be just forcing a cache refresh, but I don't know. I decided not to change any more for now. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 21:08, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I know why it works but it would be a better solution for the infobox to automatically pick the latest estimate if there are multiple estimates and no preferred rank. It appers to have been done by after discussion at Template talk:Infobox Russian inhabited locality#population_est. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

That seems to fix things. To my mind we should undo the forced "preferred rank" changes, as these will override further estimates that are added in the future. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 11:35, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Why cant Wikipedia just supply its own fonts to render characters in the styling. Ive been trying to get font support to work and it's such a hack. I'll install the font and add it to Firefox but it doesnt work. I have to fiddle around with it until it works and even then when I do something else it breaks again! Anything but the standard fonts will not work and will be a pain in the ass because you have to keep going back and messing around to get it to work again. And now, its just not working at all. ~2025-42034-67 (talk) 07:07, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

So for example, whether or not they've already installed a typeface that's adequate for chữ Nôm, anyone who reads the page Chữ Nôm would be sure to view 𫿰 (within that page) as a chữ Nôm character (and not as some kind of "glyph unavailable" mark)? -- Hoary (talk) 07:01, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

I get the same 'unavailable' character, but my Firefox is utterly ancient. I came across this: Firefox just got better for Chinese, Japanese and Korean speakers on Android (dated August 18, 2025) which claims that the latest FF version copes with these characters. Or you could try our page Help:Multilingual support (East Asian): if you have an old version of Firefox eg running on XP, maybe Microsoft's website may help, but you may have no luck there. MinorProphet (talk) 18:06, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

I recently created an account and I am not able to confirm my email. Every confirmation link reports the code expired even when opened immediately. I tried many times, different browsers, etc. No luck.

Can someone please advise how to resolve this?

Thank you! DeepDive25 (talk) 02:52, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@DeepDive25: Some email services or anti-malware may scan links for security reasons. This can invalidate the code. Try another email service if possible. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:17, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

"Hi. I requested an update on my talk page 2 months ago but got no response. I am the subject of Meisam Amini. I have updated my Wikidata (Q122609085) with official sources from Iran and France. Could a volunteer please help me to sync my Wikipedia Infobox with Wikidata so my photo, medals, and international coaching career (in Lyon and Ivory Coast) show up correctly? Also, please update the short description for Google's Knowledge Panel. Thanks!" ~2025-42297-20 (talk) 21:48, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

I added a pic. In general, infoboxes in WP:BLP:s should not use transcluded data from wikidata, pretty much anything needs to have an on-WP citation. WP-editors have no control over Google's KP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:04, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Btw, leaving messages at Talk:Meisam Amini is correct, but there is a good chance very few people are watching. Consider WP:EDITREQ or WP:APPNOTE in places like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Martial arts. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:09, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for adding the photo and for the guidance! I understand that data should be cited within Wikipedia.

Since I am the subject of the article and want to follow the rules, could you or another volunteer please help me add the citations from my Wikidata (Q122609085) to the English article? This would allow us to:

1. Replace the current photo with the 2003 World Championships version (File: Meisam Amini - World Wrestling Championships 2003.jpg).
2. Update my professional status to "International coach" (removing 'retired') and add my roles in Lyon and Ivory Coast.
3. Complete the Medal Record from the Persian Wikipedia page.

I will also reach out to WikiProject Iran as you suggested. Thank you for your professional help! ~2025-42560-02 (talk) 05:22, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your guidance regarding citations. To help update the article and remove the "retired" status, I am providing several reliable sources from both French and Iranian media. These sources confirm my active role as an international coach and technical instructor.

1. Professional Status (Coach in Lyon & Ivory Coast):
   • Lyon Mag: https://www.lyonmag.com/article/147816/meisam-amini-ancien-champion-iranien-de-lutte-installe-a-lyon-la-vie-est-comme-un-combat
   • Le Progrès: https://www.leprogres.fr/sport/2025/06/12/meisam-amini-la-lutte-un-art-d-ivoire-qu-il-transmet-avec-ardeur
   • Lyon Capitale: https://www.lyoncapitale.fr/actualite/liranien-meisam-amini-un-entraineur-de-lutte-a-lyon-le-sport-est-un-puissant-vecteur-de-paix
   • Tribune de Lyon: https://tribunedelyon.fr/sport/meisam-amini-lutte-iranien-entraineور-lyon/
2. Technical Instructor for Ivory Coast (Official Reports):
   • IRNA News: https://www.irna.ir/news/85831100/
   • ISNA News: https://www.isna.ir/news/1404022115281/
   • Tasnim News: https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/1404/02/22/3311276/
3. Summary of Requested Changes:
   • Please update the lead sentence to reflect my active career as an international coach.
   • Synchronize the Medal Record with the Persian Wikipedia (https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/میثم_امینی) using these sources.
   • Replace the photo with: Meisam Amini - World Wrestling Championships 2003.jpg.

Since I am the subject of the article, I would appreciate a volunteer's help in adding these citations directly to the English Wikipedia page. Thank you! ~2025-42066-90 (talk) 05:35, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Do repercussions from other people diminish when I return from a long WP:BREAK? Ahri Boy (talk) 02:32, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Ahri Boy. "Repercussions" is a vague term in this context. Obviously, memories and emotions related to disputes fade with time, but you are just as much expected to comply with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and behavioral expectations following a long wikibreak as if you had never taken a break. Cullen328 (talk) 03:34, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

What do you mean? TooManyFingers (talk) 03:30, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Simply off-wiki disputes about me, which I may ignore or politely engage depending on weight. Currently, I may have low capacity to contribute due to personal reasons, including prioritizing my uncle's family. Ahri Boy (talk) 03:53, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

It's best to pay no attention to what people say about you off-wiki if you feel hurt by it. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 04:03, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

I recommend that you do take the break you talked about. Being under stress off-wiki makes it hard to contribute here, because no one here can see what you're going through - if you accidentally get angry at someone here, or say things that it's better not to say, you automatically get blamed. (And that's actually fair, because it's not their fault.)

So, do the things that will really help your life and your family's life. Let Wikipedia take care of itself, at least until you come back. :) TooManyFingers (talk) 05:33, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

About the repercussions question: if you and someone else have a problem with each other that is both off-wiki and on-wiki, then nobody who's just on-wiki can intelligently answer your question. But if the repercussions are from an on-wiki-only person, then I can very confidently say two things: it might possibly improve with a break, but more importantly, it sure won't get worse with a break. :) TooManyFingers (talk) 05:51, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, there,

I am writing for English Wikipedia, and a photo I am trying to link to is uploaded to an article in Russian Wikipedia. Is there a way to link to this file from the English-language Wikipedia?

Thanks for your time. ~2025-41958-40 (talk) 20:18, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I assume this relates to ru:Файл:Григорьев Антон Алексеевич.jpg in ru:Григорьев, Антон Алексеевич. It may be possible to upload a copy of the image to en Wikipedia as the subject is deceased and if no free image is available, see Wikipedia:Non-free content. You need to publish the article without the image first as non-free images are not allowed in drafts. TSventon (talk) 20:38, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! (And, yes, you assumed right.) ~2025-41958-40 (talk) 20:41, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

The cited source in the ruwiki image is a deadlink. But seems to have that image. DMacks (talk) 07:33, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Due to the incorrectness of this module in Pashto Wikipedia, many pages show errors. If anyone can fix this, please let us know.
for example this page شاه زمان پټان (talk) 06:02, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Although, شاه زمان پټان, I very much doubt that I could help even if I knew which module and what problem, other people viewing this page might be able to. However, you're not making it easy for them. -- Hoary (talk) 06:59, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@شاه زمان پټان: I've mostly fixed the basic functioning of the location map module. However, thousands of data files have to be imported for it to work completely. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 07:00, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@User:ChildrenWillListenI think it's mostly a bug in the module:Unsubst , Module:Infobox mapframe and map-related modules, like this one. شاه زمان پټان (talk) 09:35, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I notice a page about me is missing, I was hoping to re-establish it but I can't find anywhere it might have been submitted as I didnt publish it myself. I'm a public figure and I really need help establishing my identity to retrieve an online account. Can anyone help me? ~2025-42335-76 (talk) 07:55, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

It's difficult to help you without knowing what article you are talking about. Our only concern with articles is if they meet our inclusion criteria and accurately summarize what independent reliable sources say about the topic. Not all "public figures" merit Wikipedia articles. 331dot (talk) 08:22, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm not quite understanding. Are you saying that you want to use Wikipedia to prove your own identity to a third party? TooManyFingers (talk) 08:41, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

If the page is missing, it was very clumsy of you to lose it. Try to remember where you left it, that's far easier than trying to get people to find it here. - Walter Ego 08:45, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @~2025-42335-76.

I think you're saying that there used to be a Wikipedia article about you, but now you can't find it. If that is the case, it is likely that it has been deleted, probably because it failed to establish that you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. 331dot's answer explains what that is about. If you tell us the name of the article, we can investigate.

I don't understand what the last bit is about. I can't think of any circumstances in which the existence of a Wikipedia article could be of help in establishing somebody's identity. ColinFine (talk) 10:22, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Todd Chrisley Teresa Terry is Kyle Chrisley's mother (Todd's wife Julie is his step-mother) ~2025-42535-77 (talk) 13:01, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @~2025-42535-77.

If you find an error in an article, you may be able to correct it yourself (but you should have - and cite - a reliable published source for anything you are adding). If you are unsure about doing this for any reason, the article's talk page is the place to suggest the change. ColinFine (talk) 13:12, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

how can i sign in if i cant remember my password and your forgoet password function will not allow me to use that function ~2025-42568-64 (talk) 14:25, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

If you registered with an e-mail, see Wikipedia:FAQ/Technical#How_do_I_recover_a_password_I_have_forgotten?. If you didn't, you can't, but read that link anyway. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:51, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

So, I'm trynna make myself a cool user page and I'm taking for example this user page: User:Balthazar, I understand most the HTML so I can do most of it but one part in it, the userboxes part I can't seem to understand the coding behind it, all I can understand is that there are subpages involved, can you explain it? Gfroi (talk) 12:28, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gfroi: User:Balthazar says {{User:Balthazar/Userboxes}} which transcludes User:Balthazar/Userboxes. That page has a large block of code inside <includeonly>...</includeonly> which means it's not displayed on the page itself but only when it's transcluded on another page. Then there is a large block inside <noinclude>...</noinclude> which means it's only displayed on the page itself and not when it's transcluded. See more at WP:NOINCLUDE. So the whole page looks completely different when it's viewed directly or via transclusion on the parent page. It's an unusual setup for a userpage and you don't have to do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:50, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

thanks! Gfroi (talk) 15:34, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I have been trying to implement custom CSS for the Vector Legacy theme so that when I scroll down on an article, the sidebar does not scroll down with it, and I can scroll down the sidebar separately to access options near the bottom. I also want to move the search bar from the top right corner to the top of the page, to the left of the user icon. Does anyone have any help to offer? Thank you! ZImperator (talk) (contrib) 23:45, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Try asking at WP:Village pump (technical), they know best about these things. Athanelar (talk) 09:27, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! ZImperator (talk) (contrib) 16:22, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@Heu @juundn@hodhs@K . K Rasika udara chandrasekara ~2025-32791-77 (talk) 02:31, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

What? ZImperator (talk) (contrib) 03:27, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Looks like a vandal. TooManyFingers (talk) 03:32, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Or some confused guy. But both make sense. ZImperator (talk) (contrib) 03:36, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

(I haven't found any guidance about moving a section from one article to another.) I performed the move by cut-and-pasting the section (including heading) into another article and deleting it from the original article. By manually doing so, any direct links to that original article's section will break. How can I find the broken links to fix? Ideally, the editor who originally wrote that section should retain his/her contribution credit despite my move. rootsmusic (talk) 17:40, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@Rootsmusic: there is guidance on Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, you need to use an edit summary like e.g. Copied content from [[Page name]]; see source page's history for attribution. You can do a dummy edit like adding a space and add it retrospectively. TSventon (talk) 18:35, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

(Thanks @TSventon, but I moved the section. So it wasn't copied, because my second step was to delete the original article's section.) I have added a revised edit summary to attribute the original editor. How can I find broken links (e.g. using page-section templates) elsewhere on WP to that original article's section? rootsmusic (talk) 19:15, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@Rootsmusic: you copied content from a Wikipedia article to another Wikipedia article, so the guidance I linked applies, even though you removed the original text afterwards. The point is that if someone wants to find the history and authorship of the section you moved, they need to look in the article you copied/moved it from. Help:What links_here#Fragments has some advice on finding section links, I wasn't able to find any. TSventon (talk) 19:29, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@Rootsmusic: Yes, a section move is to copy and delete a section. The source page should be linked per Wikipedia:Section moving#Step 5: Move the content. I have done it. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:55, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

On the page Timeline of the introduction of color television in countries and territories there are dates for subdivisions of countries. I didn't remove because I didnt want to start an edit war, but the problem is that everything on there has no sources. do I remove it or do I find sources? or, with there being a cleanup request, that? CD967119 (talk) 03:09, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

It sounds to me like the material you're talking about is not irrelevant or fake, but legitimate material that's missing sources. So, finding sources is the first choice. TooManyFingers (talk) 05:10, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline is a guideline to decide whether a topic deserves an article. Can it also be applied to decide whether a sub-topic deserves being mentioned in the topic's article? Has this been discussed/clarified/an alternative been established? --KnightMove (talk) 12:11, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@KnightMove That sounds like something you'll find guidance on at WP:NPOV. WP:SUMMARY may also be of interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:36, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

No, because as you said, the whole purpose of notability guidelines is to establish whether something deserves a standalone article. Plenty of things that wouldn't merit their own article still have sections on other articles, because while that information may not be notable enough for its own article, it has relevance to a subject which is notable enough for its own article.

Notability essentially has no bearing on whether you should include information in an existing article, but there are other relevant pieces of guidance like a lot of things in WP:What Wikipedia is not, and things in the WP:Manual of style like MOS:TRIVIA Athanelar (talk) 12:36, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

A sub-topic deserves to be mentioned in an article if independent reliable secondary sources about the main topic mention it, simple as that. Depending on what you're doing, WP:DUE might be of interest to you. JustARandomSquid (talk) 12:37, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

My question is motivated by the discussion whether a list of occasionally added members of the 27 Club is adequate in the article or not. The former consensus was that the listing of a specific person in one quotable source is enough, which is now nixed again. I think if a person gets a minimum of coverage in quotable sources as a member of the 27 Club, the person should indeed be listed.

But I am afraid that WP:What Wikipedia is not, WP:Manual of style and WP:DUE all don't help in deciding what such a minimum threshold could look like. Is there something else? --KnightMove (talk) 12:48, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

In that case, then regardless of whatever other standards may exist, the decision regarding that particular article will ultimately fall to whatever consensus is established on the talk page; that is always the ultimate factor on what gets included in any article.

If the consensus on the article talk page is (as it seems to be) that the list should not be included, that consensus should be abided by. If you want to pull in some more opinions, you might try notifying at some places like WP:Wikiproject Music Athanelar (talk) 13:30, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

My interpretation:

That article is partly an article, but partly a list of notable people, and some random person who died at the age of 27 should not be on the list. Is that what you're getting at? TooManyFingers (talk) 15:16, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Or, whether the article should or shouldn't have such a list?

My very personal take on it: if no list, then why bother having the article at all? TooManyFingers (talk) 15:19, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers: That's a fair question that inspired a new layer to the conflict... --KnightMove (talk) 06:59, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Or, you're welcome - depending on your point of view.

Might as well get all of it out of our systems now, while we're at it. :) TooManyFingers (talk) 07:08, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I have gone to the right place, but hopefully I found the correct place in a maze of trying to find where i'm looking.

I Wanted to ask 2 Questions for Wikipedia:

A. As someone who wanted nothing to do with the last somewhat 8 Years, I wanted to know what Wikipedia's stance was on the Past 8 Years?

Is Wikipedia for staying the same or for the changes??

I have no idea where Wikipedia keeps a list of Updates to it's services, a history of sorts for it's Wiki to keep People in the know of what is going on currently with the Platform...

Any help would be nice...

B. I saw that Wikipedia is having a Donation thing for non-profit, & to keep Billionare's from buying it's soul...

You are running a fundraiser to try & meet a goal, I wanted to know how Wikipedia was doing on that goal?

What is the Goal Wikipedia is trying to reach, & how much has Wikipedia actually gotten twards the goal so far??

I think its great you want to stay as a non-profit, I've actually heard what the Billionare's want to do with Wikipedia if they buy it, & I would much prefer they don't buy it, & for those reasons, I really hope you reach your Wiki Fundraiser Goal, o___O ~2025-42189-04 (talk) 11:20, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

1. What 'changes' of the past 8 years are you asking about in particular?
2. The donation drive isn't done by Wikipedia, it's done by the Wikimedia Foundation who have their own goals and projects. Wikipedia is an independent, volunteer-run project, we have no say over what is done with the money raised by the Wikimedia Foundation, and essentially all they do is 'keep the lights on' here so to speak.

Athanelar (talk) 11:51, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

What Wikipedia's stance was on the Past 8 Years? Something like "Wikipedians kept working, some things changed, Wikipedia remains imperfect and pretty good in parts." You might find something that interests you on History of Wikipedia or WP:PRESS 25 and preceding pages. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:33, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

"I've actually heard what the Billionare's want to do with Wikipedia if they buy it". Oh? I haven't, but I am aware of what one billionaire is already doing with it. -- Hoary (talk) 07:27, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

There are multiple subpages of Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia that are not linked in the actual page, such as Who's closest, and Fyckshenhall. Should they be deleted? The latter was only in mainspace for two weeks anyway. RanDom 404 (talk) 16:26, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

RanDom 404, please ask at Wikipedia talk:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 07:42, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Request Id: 20ad1ba8-1365-40af-aee9-2ce0b88b6702

Correlation Id: a0e51bdb-66a0-44d7-a5d6-51fe216794c6

Timestamp: 2025-12-24T11:16:02Z

Message: AADSTS900561: The endpoint only accepts POST requests. Received a GET request ~2025-42747-49 (talk) 11:28, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Does this have anything to do with Wikipedia? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:42, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, If one needs to add hundreds of url-status=live to references, is there a tool that will do this without having to manually do each one? Thanks for any assistance. Canary757 (talk) 07:01, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

WP:AWB. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:43, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

About 1 year ago I started donating $2.75 monthly, and did so for a few months. When I wanted to stop the monthly donations I could not find a way to do that, so had to call my credit card company to get it stopped. I do not have any type of account with Wikipedia that I know of, and this is the best place to make such comment that I could find. I would donate again but I don’t want it to become a time-wasting problem for me. ~2025-42845-18 (talk) 13:23, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-42845-18. Unfortunately, us volunteer editors on the English Wikipedia have no control over the Wikimedia Foundation donation process. Please contact the Foundation directly at donate@wikimedia.org. qcne (talk) 13:26, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Have I malformed my CFD nomination at Category:Literary characters introduced in 1603? I've never done that before so unsurprising if I've got it wrong. If yes can someone fix it for me (if easy) or tell me what I should have done. AndyJones (talk) 13:47, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

@AndyJones: the header on today's CFD nomination page had an extra "Category:", so I removed it. TSventon (talk) 14:07, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

I would like to know how to add a personal tab on Margaret’s Wikipedia profile. She was a brilliant scientist. She was a pioneer for women in science. However, as her daughter’s best friend, I know that Margaret’s greatest accomplishment was her husband, Bill Etter, and her two children. In all of her travels, she wrote a personal journal to her daughter describing her experiences. As brilliant of a mind that she was, she was even a better mother. I feel that not including this part of her life is a monumental disservice to the complete woman that she was. Even though I never had the honor of meeting her, I feel like I know her through her daughter (Karen) and she is an inspiration to me. ~2025-42811-78 (talk) 04:53, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

There's unfortunately no possibility for personal material on Wikipedia - only what's already been publicly reported by reliable publishers. TooManyFingers (talk) 05:06, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, it is normal to mention spouses and children if there is a reliable source. This newsletter from the University of Minnesota does mention her husband and children. TSventon (talk) 11:46, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Mentioning them is fine, yes. Just not personal anecdotes. TooManyFingers (talk) 16:29, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

So I made this edit removing the non-country in the infobox country field. I then looked at the history and was surprised to find a much larger than expected 288 byte removal. I checked the edit in Visual mode and it shows what I had done, but in Source mode it shows lots of spaces in each field have been removed as well. No effect on the rendered version, so I'm wondering whether or not it's a problem? Rupples (talk) 16:43, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

@Rupples: Not a problem. One space, two spaces, or a hundred, they all mean the same in this circumstance. Bazza 7 (talk) 16:57, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Family tree of the Greek gods

I'm trying to fulfill a semi-protected edit request on that page, but since it's a genealogy article, it makes extensive use of Template:Tree chart, which is far, far, far too complex for me. The request is cited and seems good to me, but requires a significant amount of effort to redesign portions of the tree, outlined below.

• Pontus and Gaia had Eurybia, wife of Crius, who was son of Uranus and Gaia. (The link between Portus and Gaia isn't shown yet and Eurybia hasn't been added as far as I can tell)
• Crius and Eurybia had Perses, husband of Asteria.
• Uranus and Gaia had Coeus, husband and brother to Phoebe. Coeus and Phoebe had Asteria, wife of Perses.

Thank you in advance! (If I've misplaced this request, let me know where it belongs.) FMRadio :3_{(chat | edits | she/her)} 18:25, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

how to edit free? ~2025-42825-99 (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

You did it already! TooManyFingers (talk) 18:57, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

as in title, how do you disable these?

im pretty sure you have more than enough money.

not sure why you need to beg for. Metro8102 (talk) 19:28, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

where do these donations go exactly?

thats what i wanna know. Metro8102 (talk) 19:33, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Volunteer editors have no control over the donation banners, but the money goes to the Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit that--among other things--hosts Wikipedia and the like. Their website is https://wikimediafoundation.org/ where you might be able to read about how they characterize their use of money. I'd imagine there might be budget/money use reports for previous years on that website, though I didn't go looking for them. As a nonprofit, they're not allowed under US law to make a profit, so they do have to be transparent about what they're doing with the money. (There is a link somewhere about ways to suppress the donation prompt but I don't use it enough to remember where it's at quickly, and I don't remember if it has guidance for logged-out purposes. *goes off to look*) - Purplewowies (talk) 19:53, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Suppress display of the fundraising banner has a temporary way for logged-out accounts using cookies. .cn-fundraising {display: none} put in a CSS style that applies to English Wikipedia appears to also suppress the fundraising banners I've been able to get to trigger in a private tab, but I don't know how stable that is or how long it might last (might be very stable if the CSS class never changes. might not be stable at all (though I don't see Wikipedia's CSS change a ton so...)). - Purplewowies (talk) 20:00, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Could someone share their thoughts in this discussion? ~2025-42780-89 (talk) 20:42, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

The Helpdesk is not a place to solicit additional opinions. Please try at WP:3O or a relevant Wikiproject (maybe WP:WikiProject California) Athanelar (talk) 00:22, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

I was trying to add the OneClickArchiver and Restorer scripts to my common.js, but then LTA 404 blocked me indefinitely with no talk page access because it thought my edit was harmful! Stupid abuse filter. ~2025-42732-08 (talk) 21:46, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, i did not log in, i am TheCoolMango and the account that was blocked indefinitely by the abuse filter is this one i'm using right now. TheCoolMango (talk) 21:48, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

If you were blocked on Meta, you can only be unblocked on Meta. The English-language Wikipedia (which is where you are posting now) has no control over Meta. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:58, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

I suspect they asked here because they have talk page access disabled on Meta (due, I imagine, to the specific abuse filter they tripped); on the other hand, that doesn't really make it more relevant to enwiki... - Purplewowies (talk) 22:47, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi. I've unblocked your account on Meta. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 00:50, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps the filter should be updated to not flag auto edit-summaries. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 05:52, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

UFL championship game

This page was initially about the championship game for the 2009–2012 iteration of the UFL. However, the page was completely overwritten with information regarding the championship game for the current iteration of the league. What would be the proper procedure to have the content on the old iteration of the game put in a new page, with proper attribution and procedures followed? Figured this would be a good place to start. 57birdnerd (talk) 04:08, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't know a huge amount about this, but what I DO know is this: don't do anything hasty, because it would be easy to create an outcome that nobody wants. (And to get blamed for trying.) TooManyFingers (talk) 10:06, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

I think it's possible that the correct solution might be to revert the recent major change, and give the 2024 version its own new article.

Or maybe to revert that change and then remake the 2024 version in a new section??

But mainly this: Don't decide on your own. That's what THEY did, and look at the trouble it's caused. TooManyFingers (talk) 10:12, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Stormy Marmot

Can someone help figure out whether this animal is real or stuffed? This (albeit in an unencyclopedic way) stated that it's actually a stuffed toy, and was removed here for being "personal commentary". Based on both Google and the marmot's website (linked in external links), it really does seem to be a stuffed marmot, but the previous version treats it as an actual animal along with some sources. Otherwise, this is mildly bemusing. Happy holidays, it's lio! | talk | work 16:05, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

It's a stuffed toy. Unfortunately I see no notability, so have AFDed. qcne (talk) 16:14, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Can somebody who can write Russian suggest to User:EAMamedov that he should (a) edit in English on en.wiki, and (b) best not write an autobiographical article on their user page? His other edits appear to be experimental, apart from VVER. -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 21:15, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

There may be no Russian-speaking editors reading the Help Desk. Try WP:Local Embassy. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:49, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

I have contacted one of the named ambassadors. Thank you. -- Verbarson  ^talk_edits 18:55, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

The MoS gives quite a few examples for quotation marks and for italics for book chapters, book titles, etc., but no suggestion for the title of an academic thesis. It appears to be a borderline case, as some theses might be longer than some books, but they are not part of a larger work. Have I missed something in the MoS, or should I add an example to one of these MoS sections? Chris the speller ^yack 17:54, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Chicago style uses quotation marks (see here). I don't know what's in other guides. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:56, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

What does {{cite thesis}} do? I usually use cite templates precisely so I don't have to know anything about any style-guide:) DMacks (talk) 19:35, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Since we do have a style guide it's probably best to make it reasonably complete, but you're right - checking that template and telling people to do whatever it would have done is a good idea. TooManyFingers (talk) 21:22, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your ideas and guidance. The template (cite thesis) displays titles in italics (sorry, CMOS), so I will add a note to MOS:ITALICS. Chris the speller ^yack 05:44, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

I have no attachment to Chicago style, it just happened to be easy to look up. (And if someone does use Chicago style on Wikipedia, then at least they've followed something organized and reasonable, which is a bit of a win considering what else they might have done.) But I agree with what you did. TooManyFingers (talk) 00:12, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

When I was working for G. Schirmer and attended Balanchine's Ballet danced by Suzanne Ferrell - Ive's "Unanswered Question" which was truly a great ballet danced by a wonderful dancer, Suzanne Ferrell. I had been a Music Major at Smith College. It was around 1967 - 1969 which is when I was employed by G. Schirmer in their Rental and Royalty Department. It should be listed in his ballets - you can search it under Dances by Suzanne Ferrell on line. It was a dance to music called Ivesiena. Charles Ives was one of our composers with Boosey and Hawkes and subsidiary of G. Schirmer.---- C. McIlvain ~2025-42965-99 (talk) 23:52, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

If you have an exact link to something that complies with Wikipedia:Reliable sources and contains the relevant information, then it can be added. TooManyFingers (talk) 23:58, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

It's also fine if you give an exact page reference in a paper book, if the book meets that standard. TooManyFingers (talk) 23:59, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

I looked at List of ballets by George Balanchine and it includes Ivesiana, which has a movement set to The Unanswered Question. TSventon (talk) 00:11, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm sorry if my comments are not helpful. I was "blown away" by Suzanne Ferrell and her dancing of what was probably Ivesiena more than just The Unanswered Question. I was very excited by Ives' work. I understand why Balanchine thought it complicated. It is. Suzanne Ferrell, like Balanchine was extremely musical which is why she was such a great Ballerina for him. I have not seen a ballerina who had her musical expression since then. Certainly that must be why Balanchine took her back into the NYC Ballet. ~2025-42965-99 (talk) 00:34, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Your comment (about it being missing) turned out not to be true, but that's perfectly fine, it was an honest mistake and a valid topic to be asking about. TooManyFingers (talk) 00:40, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

I am trying to do a regex search for a string that causes a missing end tag for <table>. The markup is

}}|} <!-- EdwardsBot

the fix is

}}
|} <!-- EdwardsBot

The bad markup occurs on about 480 User Talk pages. The regex string should be insource:/\}\}\|\} \</, and keep on going from there, but this string returns no results, for reasons that escape me, so, to get a count of the bad markup string, I used insource:/\}\}\|\}/ -insource:/\}\}\|\}\}/, which works, but there are a few false positives, such as User talk:Patrick. Will someone please explain why the regex expression that should work returns no results. —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:24, 23 December 2025 (UTC). I removed a stray less than sign just before "insource" just now. I hope it didn't cause any confusion. —Anomalocaris (talk) 17:34, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

For help with regex, ask at WP:VPT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:44, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: Please always give an example when you report a perceived problem. I couldn't find any page which is supposed to match your regex, apart from this help desk post which does match it when I remove the initial < which doesn't belong. I get 479 hits in all namespaces if I replace the space wth a newline: insource:EdwardsBot insource:/\}\}\|\}\n\</. I added insource:EdwardsBot per mw:Help:CirrusSearch#Using the index first to filter results because pure regex searches are expensive. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:34, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

PrimeHunter: Here are 484 pages, nearly all of which have the offending markup, including, for example, User talk:ThinkBlue, User talk:GTBacchus, User talk:Backslash Forwardslash .... But this returns "There were no results matching the query." —Anomalocaris (talk) 17:34, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: None of the three linked pages have the markup. They all have a newline and not a space before <!-- EdwardsBot. I already showed how to find them with search. Does your browser display a space when you edit the page? You cannot use excerpts on a search results page for exact character matching. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

PrimeHunter: I didn't do my homework before my previous response. Based on the results page of insource:/\}\}\|\}/ -insource:/\}\}\|\}\}/, but without actually clicking on any of the results, I just knew there were missing results from insource:/\}\}\|\} \</. This time I have done my homework, and now I see that your first response was entirely correct. But I am still puzzled, because Help:Searching/Regex says twice, 'Regex experts should note that \n does not mean "newline"', and also "Although character classes \n, \s, \S are not supported, you may use these workarounds:". But mw:Help:CirrusSearch says \n matches a line feed character. It would seem that Help:Searching/Regex is in need of updating, but perhaps I am missing something. I should mention that I edited mw:Help:CirrusSearch to clean up some minor issues. —Anomalocaris (talk) 01:26, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

The local page is outdated: phab:T403212. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:49, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Pppery: Thanks, I added a comment at phab:T403212 asking to update Help:Searching/Regex. —Anomalocaris (talk) 04:48, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

The Republic of Karelia page mentions the Karelian writer Antti Timonen, for which no English page exists. There are however versions of the page on the Finnish, Karelian, and Russian wikipedias. Of the three the Russian page has the most content and the Finnish and Karelian pages are about equal in the amount they cover. I want to add an inter-language link to the original page and need to pick one of the non-english pages. I'm wondering what best practice would be as the page for the native language of the subject is not the same as the page with the most content. Should amount of content or should the native language of the subject be given priority in choices like these? I've checked some of the help and guideline pages but haven't found any relevant info, any advice is appreciated. Nialimh (talk) 14:56, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

@Nialimh: Template:Interlanguage link can link to multiple languages. I would choose links that would be useful to English speaking readers, possibly Finnish and Russian as they are both served by Google translate and similar services. TSventon (talk) 15:08, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

I agree that that makes the most sense so this is what I ended up going with, thanks! Nialimh (talk) 15:15, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Nialimh. I don't think there is a good answer.

With my Wikipedia purist hat on, I'd say, the one with the best (not necessarily most!) references, as an article without references is essentially worthless. ;-)

But more practically, I would choose Russian, as a random reader is more likely to be able to read Russian than Finnish or Karelian. ColinFine (talk) 15:09, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Yep, use your editorial judgement. If you cannot decide, put one (or all three) of them in a footnote. -Arch dude (talk) 17:22, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Nialimh, there is no need to choose among them, and no benefit in doing so that I can think of, unless perhaps (unlike me) you find the look of ⟨Antti Timonen [fi; olo; ru]⟩ aesthetically displeasing. -- Hoary (talk) 07:41, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Can I submit my own bio to Wikipedia? ~2025-42070-44 (talk) 20:44, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi @~2025-42070-44. We strongly discourage that: Wikipedia:Autobiography. Wikipedia has really strict criteria for inclusion, and the majority of biographic articles are written by people independent of the person with just a passing interest. We prohibit promotion of any kind, and we're not a social media website like LinkedIn. qcne (talk) 20:49, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @~2025-42070-44. Note that A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source. That applies just as much to an article about you as to any other article. ColinFine (talk) 20:57, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Why would you want to submit your own bio, ~2025-42070-44? -- Hoary (talk) 00:10, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

No, you can’t do that. ~2025-42676-23 (talk) 09:57, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi, ~2025-42070-44! Even if creating a page about you WAS allowed, first you would have to create an account. You can do this by clicking the CREATE ACCOUNT button that should be at the top of your screen.

Helpfully,Yooniik (talk) 14:57, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

And also, you might've been better off at the teahouse with that question, since you sound new. Yooniik (talk) 15:07, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi, for nearly 10 years there has a TBAN in place. Where do I turn to in order for it being lifted? Catflap08 (talk) 15:33, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

@Catflap08: Assuming you're referring to this, you would need to appeal to the Arbitration Committee directly, either via email or at WP:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:43, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

@Jéské Couriano: This is the one. Thank you very much. Catflap08 (talk) 15:50, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I have three questions and I would appreciate for your answers.

1. When I edit Wikipedia with the computer app of wikipedia, tags displayed? if displayed, what tags are displayed for that edit, like when i write message in talk page or when I edit in article?
2. When I edit with a computer browser, is the tag displayed for that edit? And if displayed, what is the difference between the tag of editing with computer app and editing with a computer browser?
3. Are these tags the same on all wikis and is there a difference between displaying the tag related to that edit on different wikis, such as the English or Italian wiki or other wikis? ~2025-43159-58 (talk) 09:11, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello! You can see which tags are applied to edits on Special:Tags. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 10:20, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

I saw them but I didn't fully understand them. Please answer the 3 questions with detail I asked so that I can understand them because I don't have much knowledge about these types of things. Thank you ~2025-43159-58 (talk) 11:12, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

1. Tags can be displayed or not displayed.
2. Tags can be displayed or not displayed.
3. The tags are the same. TooManyFingers (talk) 14:07, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, can you give some example of a tags that is displayed in a computer app of wikipedia.

And give some example of a tags that is displayed in a computer browser to completely solve my question and problem. Thank you ~2025-43159-58 (talk) 14:42, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

You should try it and see. TooManyFingers (talk) 16:06, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't can have this app for windows because some of problem that I have and because of that i ask that what tags displayed and please give some example of that to me with knowledge of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Tags this and explain to me, thank you ~2025-43159-58 (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Please explain what Wikipedia task you are really trying to do. "Just learning" is not useful for you.

The list of tags you mentioned is not anything you can use, so you don't need to study it, and nobody needs to explain it. If something has gone wrong about one of those tags, please say exactly what the problem is. TooManyFingers (talk) 21:09, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

.r ~2025-43159-58 (talk) 19:31, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

.l ~2025-43159-58 (talk) 15:14, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

.I ~2025-43159-58 (talk) 13:26, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Whether using a computer or a phone, one can edit using a browser (such as Firefox or Chrome). One can also edit using the "Wikipedia app" on a phone or other device running iOS or Android, I believe. But what do you mean by "the computer app of wikipedia"? -- Hoary (talk) 22:21, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Someone remind me again how does one correctly blanks a page? I tried to do it right before but the page still asked me to blank it anyways (i can't show the page because BusterD deleted it) Trade (talk) 00:09, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

@BusterD: You wrote:

{{subst:Courtesy blanked|Unsourced attack page}}
{{db-attack}}'

{{subst:Courtesy blanked}} was the right way to courtesy blank if that's all you did but {{db-attack}} should be the only content on a page per Template:Db-g10#Usage. In your case it ironically detected there was other content on the page and then asked for that content to be blanked. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:36, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

We are temporarily limiting logged-out editing from your location error happened today anyone know why i got this error? i had to create a account to fix it Harteater (talk) 01:37, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I am in NYC in case you need location Harteater (talk) 01:41, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

See WT:Temporary accounts#"We are temporarily limiting logged-out editing from your location". That boils down to there being a rate limit due to abuse of the temporary account system. Johnuniq (talk) 01:47, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I see you found that page. Johnuniq (talk) 01:48, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Why has Wikipedia resorted to extortionary tactics to demand funds? I have donated to Wikipedia many times over the past 20 years, generally in amounts in excess of the minima recommended at those times. Now I live on a modest fixed income and cannot always afford to respond to what has become a barrage of funding requests. Just now, I was stopped from reading information on Wikipedia. I find Wikepedia's resort to strong-arming extortion for a casual user of its resources vindictive and self-defeating. I won't contribute another cent to Wikipedia as it descends into the fascist world. FredMerkle (talk) 21:21, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

How were you "stopped from reading information on Wikipedia"? AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:31, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

What happens when you turn off fundraising banners in your Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-centralnotice-banners preferences? DMacks (talk) 21:50, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Extortion is an insane claim, based on what they're actually doing. But I agree the whole thing is annoying. TooManyFingers (talk) 00:02, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

It should also be noted that it is the WikiMedia Foundation, rather than Wikipedia, that is responsible for the fundraising banners, and that many Wikipedia contributors aren't exactly impressed by the way they imply that without immediate donations, Wikipedia servers may shut down. This is clearly not true, given the humongous pile of dosh the WMF is currently sitting on, though I wouldn't call it 'extortion'. AndyTheGrump (talk)

Not to be a counter-grump, Andy; but by global or Silicon-Valley standards, the current endowment of the Foundation is pretty darned picayune. It would have to increase by an order of magnitude to be serious cabbage. --~2025-41941-72 (talk) 07:51, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

If there were no fundraising, then the free online encyclopedia would not able to function without profits donated. ~2025-42676-23 (talk) 09:59, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

FredMerkle You can turn off the donation requests in your account preferences. You should not donate money if you cannot afford to do so- a donation is just that, a donation; you don't need to give a penny to access Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 10:04, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Also, the main purpose of the donated funds (and also official WMF merch sales) is for maintenance of all WMF wikis in the future. There is absolutely no need to donate. You are not forced to do so, @FredMerkle. I would ask WP:VPWMF about not forcing readers to donate if logged out. Ahri Boy (talk) 03:45, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

every page asks for donations. Let it go. If Wikipedia goes bye, then so be it. Stop asking us for money. ~2025-43235-01 (talk) 05:05, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

We have no control over the Wikimedia Foundation's donation drive (and in fact most of us absolutely hate their disingenuousness in running it). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 05:13, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

(A) Creating a username, noting this down somewhere so you won't forget it, logging in under the username, and setting your preferences to disable such messages is I imagine just as easy as and much less stressful than (B) taking offense at these messages and fuming about them. A log in can be good for an entire year. -- Hoary (talk) 05:21, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I have used the following ISBN, exactly as it is listed in the book for The Patriot (2000 film). A space is a valid separation character. Looking it up gave me the right book, though it treats the number as a 10 digit ISBN (without the spaces). When I used the 10 digit number, i.e. without spaces, Wikipedia again claims an error. https://archive.org/details/rebelsredcoatsam0000bich/page/n5/mode/1up isbn= 0 00 715626 x

Humpster (talk) 02:41, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

See the help text linked from the error message. The answer is there.

{{ISBN|0 00 715626 x}} → ISBN 0 00 715626 x {{isbn}}: Check isbn value: invalid character (help)

{{ISBN|0 00 715626 X}} → ISBN 0 00 715626 X

—Trappist the monk (talk) 03:05, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

The help text is the first place I looked. A requirement that the final X be upper case is unexpected. It must be a peculiarity of Wikipedia since an ISBN search had no trouble with it. I just want to write, not program.

Thank you, Trappist. This query can be closed.

Humpster (talk) 07:24, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

On the page you linked, the X is in small caps, not lower case. When it occurs at the end of an ISBN the X is a roman numeral, indicating decimal 10, and roman numerals are always upper case. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:42, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Most search features are case insensitive to be convenient but we write the check digit in articles and want to do it correctly. A lowercase x often means a placeholder variable so it would also be confusing. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:39, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

However, your information is wrong because in Assam, Nepali Puri caste people come under Chhetri and some Puri also come under Kshatriya

Thank you ~2025-43299-43 (talk) 14:52, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello @~2025-43299-43. Unfortunately, all pages about history, politics, ethnicity, and social groups in the region of South Asia (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal) are designated a "Contentious topic". You are therefore not permitted to make suggestions or edit these topics. qcne (talk) 14:56, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article states that Kim Dae-jung was born on January 6, 1924, but the official website of the Kim Dae-jung Presidential Library and Museum () gives January 8, 1924 as his birth date and explains the origin of the discrepancy. ~2025-43338-31 (talk) 15:55, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Please raise this issue on Talk:Kim Dae-jung. 331dot (talk) 16:07, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I just acquired a new phone and when I used the hotspot feature and attempted to log on to WP, it needed a verification number, which was sent to my eMail account., which I've been using for more than 16 years. When I attempted to log into my eMail account to retrieve the verification code there was no new mail to be found. Thought it might be a temporary problem so I tried again later, and then again the next day, and the day after, etc, to no avail. I thought it might be a problem on this end with WP, so I asked a family member to send me an eMail. Again, nothing.

Here it is some five days later, and I have not received any incoming mail. Usually I receive several a day, much of it spam, but have received nothing. I was able to log on to WP with my other existing phone without WP asking me for a verification code. After I logged on to WP., I switched back to my new phone/hotspot and was able to to continue unabated. At any rate, there is a problem with mail.com, at least as my account is concerned. I tried customer service at mail.com, but it was some mindless AI chat feature whose FAQ did not address my problem. My registered eMail account is/was on record here, since removed for repeated failures to log in here.

Is there a way I can use my new phone/hotspot without WP asking me for a verification when I log onto WP? I am using my new phone/hotspot now as I write this message..Sorry for the lengthy message. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:46, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gwillhickers: Can you set another email address at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-email? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:09, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Have never had this problem before. I would have to set up another eMail account. Will wait a day or so to see if my current eMail problem will somehow resolves itself. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:44, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Are you saying your new setup can't receive email from your family either? That would mean there's a much more basic problem to solve first (i.e. haven't got email working at all). TooManyFingers (talk) 21:17, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

New setup? Not sure what you mean, but I have no new eMail account. My existing account at mail.com isn't receiving any incoming mail, which means I can't receive a verification code. WP, however, isn't asking me for any verification code when I log in here using my older phone/hotspot. So I can log in, and once I have my account here open, I switch back to my new phone/hotspot and continue with the same session I initiated with my old phone/hotspot, as I'm doing now. It's sort of a funky way to get started, but it will have to do for now until I can get a handle on the problem at mail.com. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:36, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

The reason I have the newer phone is the account has unlimited data. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:37, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, TooManyFingers — Okay, as I was hoping, the problem fixed itself, somehow. Events like that doesn't do much for my faith in computer technology. In any case, many thanks for your help. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:35, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm glad it worked without forcing you to make a new account and all that, anyway. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:27, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Gypsy Rose Blanchard is attempting to manipulate her own Wikipedia page with lies. Why isn't it mentioned anywhere that (redacted)? ~2025-43181-46 (talk) 19:47, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

If you have evidence that an individual is unduly influencing article content about them, please send that evidence to the address described here. Do not post claims about any individual on any page without a citation to a reliable source, I have suppressed your claims here. If you wish to further comment on that particular article, please see Talk:Gypsy Rose Blanchard. 331dot (talk) 19:52, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

• Happy Christmas to you from me

I know the above article relating to a song is incorrectly formatted (not of my doing, I hasten to add), but am puzzling as to the correct style. Could some kind Christmas elf assist me ? Thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:34, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Christmas elf here! Are you referring to the title of the page, Derek R Bullamore? It should be in title case, like Happy Christmas to You from Me (which is currently a redirect to Barry Blue). Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:52, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, that's it precisely. So I will need to 'remove' the redirect and move the song page to the 'new name'. It must be the ghost of Christmas hopelessness that has hit me, plus it is a very long time since I effected such changes (if at all). A helpful nudge would be appreciated. I might be able to supply the virtual Ecclefechan tarts! - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 17:11, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

This is a routine but moderately complicated page move. I'm happy to do it for you, Derek R Bullamore, and if you ever encounter this in the future you can place a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests.

FYI, the complicating issue here is that the redirect page has an extensive history. If you ever want to move CapitaLIZation ExAMPle to Capitalization example, you will be able to do so yourself as long as:

1. The latter is a redirect to the former, and
2. the redirect has only one revision in it's history.

You can read more about this if interested at WP:MOVE, especially #Moving over a redirect. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:16, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Many thanks for all that information. I sort of knew that they might be a more exact page to post this query, but it is not something that I have often come across before. If you would be so kind as to effect the change, then I will have a lengthy look at the processes in the New Year, when I should be more awake. I blame the eggnog. Many thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:49, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

It's done! Happy holidays. Elf out. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:09, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Is it possible to be logged in automatically when using the iOS app? Jaydear (talk) 02:04, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Can you fix an error i made on draft 2026 NCAA Division I FBS football season about new stadiums please Big Bowl Fan (talk) 03:22, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Please be very exact - what went wrong? TooManyFingers (talk) 03:32, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

It sounds like you're trying to work much too fast on things you don't understand yet. Please go a lot slower, and if you don't understand something, don't do it. TooManyFingers (talk) 03:36, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

I donate two dollars per month via direct debit, could you stop asking me to donate. Bazsxr8 (talk) 05:30, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Everyone reading this is a volunteer, we never see a cent of the money, and we're as annoyed as you are.

If you do control-F on this page (or "search in page" or whatever command you have), and look for every time the word donation comes up, you'll see some advice about how to turn it off or get rid of it. TooManyFingers (talk) 05:54, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Bazsxr You can turn off the donation requests in your account preferences. A donation is just that, a donation, don't give if you cannot afford to. 331dot (talk) 09:13, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

I have used the following ISBN, exactly as it is listed in the book for The Patriot (2000 film). A space is a valid separation character. Looking it up gave me the right book, though it treats the number as a 10 digit ISBN (without the spaces). When I used the 10 digit number, i.e. without spaces, Wikipedia again claims an error. https://archive.org/details/rebelsredcoatsam0000bich/page/n5/mode/1up isbn= 0 00 715626 x

Humpster (talk) 02:41, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

See the help text linked from the error message. The answer is there.

{{ISBN|0 00 715626 x}} → ISBN 0 00 715626 x {{isbn}}: Check isbn value: invalid character (help)

{{ISBN|0 00 715626 X}} → ISBN 0 00 715626 X

—Trappist the monk (talk) 03:05, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

The help text is the first place I looked. A requirement that the final X be upper case is unexpected. It must be a peculiarity of Wikipedia since an ISBN search had no trouble with it. I just want to write, not program.

Thank you, Trappist. This query can be closed.

Humpster (talk) 07:24, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

On the page you linked, the X is in small caps, not lower case. When it occurs at the end of an ISBN the X is a roman numeral, indicating decimal 10, and roman numerals are always upper case. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:42, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Most search features are case insensitive to be convenient but we write the check digit in articles and want to do it correctly. A lowercase x often means a placeholder variable so it would also be confusing. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:39, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

However, your information is wrong because in Assam, Nepali Puri caste people come under Chhetri and some Puri also come under Kshatriya

Thank you ~2025-43299-43 (talk) 14:52, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello @~2025-43299-43. Unfortunately, all pages about history, politics, ethnicity, and social groups in the region of South Asia (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal) are designated a "Contentious topic". You are therefore not permitted to make suggestions or edit these topics. qcne (talk) 14:56, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article states that Kim Dae-jung was born on January 6, 1924, but the official website of the Kim Dae-jung Presidential Library and Museum () gives January 8, 1924 as his birth date and explains the origin of the discrepancy. ~2025-43338-31 (talk) 15:55, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Please raise this issue on Talk:Kim Dae-jung. 331dot (talk) 16:07, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I just acquired a new phone and when I used the hotspot feature and attempted to log on to WP, it needed a verification number, which was sent to my eMail account., which I've been using for more than 16 years. When I attempted to log into my eMail account to retrieve the verification code there was no new mail to be found. Thought it might be a temporary problem so I tried again later, and then again the next day, and the day after, etc, to no avail. I thought it might be a problem on this end with WP, so I asked a family member to send me an eMail. Again, nothing.

Here it is some five days later, and I have not received any incoming mail. Usually I receive several a day, much of it spam, but have received nothing. I was able to log on to WP with my other existing phone without WP asking me for a verification code. After I logged on to WP., I switched back to my new phone/hotspot and was able to to continue unabated. At any rate, there is a problem with mail.com, at least as my account is concerned. I tried customer service at mail.com, but it was some mindless AI chat feature whose FAQ did not address my problem. My registered eMail account is/was on record here, since removed for repeated failures to log in here.

Is there a way I can use my new phone/hotspot without WP asking me for a verification when I log onto WP? I am using my new phone/hotspot now as I write this message..Sorry for the lengthy message. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:46, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gwillhickers: Can you set another email address at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-email? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:09, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Have never had this problem before. I would have to set up another eMail account. Will wait a day or so to see if my current eMail problem will somehow resolves itself. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:44, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

Are you saying your new setup can't receive email from your family either? That would mean there's a much more basic problem to solve first (i.e. haven't got email working at all). TooManyFingers (talk) 21:17, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

New setup? Not sure what you mean, but I have no new eMail account. My existing account at mail.com isn't receiving any incoming mail, which means I can't receive a verification code. WP, however, isn't asking me for any verification code when I log in here using my older phone/hotspot. So I can log in, and once I have my account here open, I switch back to my new phone/hotspot and continue with the same session I initiated with my old phone/hotspot, as I'm doing now. It's sort of a funky way to get started, but it will have to do for now until I can get a handle on the problem at mail.com. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:36, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

The reason I have the newer phone is the account has unlimited data. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:37, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, TooManyFingers — Okay, as I was hoping, the problem fixed itself, somehow. Events like that doesn't do much for my faith in computer technology. In any case, many thanks for your help. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:35, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm glad it worked without forcing you to make a new account and all that, anyway. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:27, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Gypsy Rose Blanchard is attempting to manipulate her own Wikipedia page with lies. Why isn't it mentioned anywhere that (redacted)? ~2025-43181-46 (talk) 19:47, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

If you have evidence that an individual is unduly influencing article content about them, please send that evidence to the address described here. Do not post claims about any individual on any page without a citation to a reliable source, I have suppressed your claims here. If you wish to further comment on that particular article, please see Talk:Gypsy Rose Blanchard. 331dot (talk) 19:52, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

• Happy Christmas to you from me

I know the above article relating to a song is incorrectly formatted (not of my doing, I hasten to add), but am puzzling as to the correct style. Could some kind Christmas elf assist me ? Thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:34, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Christmas elf here! Are you referring to the title of the page, Derek R Bullamore? It should be in title case, like Happy Christmas to You from Me (which is currently a redirect to Barry Blue). Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:52, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, that's it precisely. So I will need to 'remove' the redirect and move the song page to the 'new name'. It must be the ghost of Christmas hopelessness that has hit me, plus it is a very long time since I effected such changes (if at all). A helpful nudge would be appreciated. I might be able to supply the virtual Ecclefechan tarts! - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 17:11, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

This is a routine but moderately complicated page move. I'm happy to do it for you, Derek R Bullamore, and if you ever encounter this in the future you can place a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests.

FYI, the complicating issue here is that the redirect page has an extensive history. If you ever want to move CapitaLIZation ExAMPle to Capitalization example, you will be able to do so yourself as long as:

1. The latter is a redirect to the former, and
2. the redirect has only one revision in it's history.

You can read more about this if interested at WP:MOVE, especially #Moving over a redirect. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:16, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Many thanks for all that information. I sort of knew that they might be a more exact page to post this query, but it is not something that I have often come across before. If you would be so kind as to effect the change, then I will have a lengthy look at the processes in the New Year, when I should be more awake. I blame the eggnog. Many thanks. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:49, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

It's done! Happy holidays. Elf out. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:09, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Is it possible to be logged in automatically when using the iOS app? Jaydear (talk) 02:04, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Can you fix an error i made on draft 2026 NCAA Division I FBS football season about new stadiums please Big Bowl Fan (talk) 03:22, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Please be very exact - what went wrong? TooManyFingers (talk) 03:32, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

It sounds like you're trying to work much too fast on things you don't understand yet. Please go a lot slower, and if you don't understand something, don't do it. TooManyFingers (talk) 03:36, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

I donate two dollars per month via direct debit, could you stop asking me to donate. Bazsxr8 (talk) 05:30, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Everyone reading this is a volunteer, we never see a cent of the money, and we're as annoyed as you are.

If you do control-F on this page (or "search in page" or whatever command you have), and look for every time the word donation comes up, you'll see some advice about how to turn it off or get rid of it. TooManyFingers (talk) 05:54, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Bazsxr You can turn off the donation requests in your account preferences. A donation is just that, a donation, don't give if you cannot afford to. 331dot (talk) 09:13, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Can you Fix the error i Made on 2028 FIBA Please Big Bowl Fan (talk) 22:44, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I can't see that you have edited a page with a similar name to that. Could you link me? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:46, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Big Bowl Fan edited Draft:2028 in sports right before but I don't know which error it's about. It's crazy to claim the 2028 FIBA Under-17 Basketball World Cup is among the top-6 sports events of the year (page view comparison with two unlisted events at the same time in 2024) but that's not the type of error you request help with. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

CY Hi, I tried to fulfill this request in the revision 1329796455 at 01:12, 28 December 2025 (UTC) by fixing a wikilink to 2028 FIBA Under-17 Basketball World Cup on the Draft:2028 in sports (there was no dash in Under-17 unlike the title of the existing [for now] article so the wikilink didn't work). I never actually posted my reply to this request so I'm sorry if this confused anyone trying to help.

But @Big Bowl Fan, this whole draft you made will get deleted unless you or someone else cites reliable sources for the statements and information you put in it. Fixing any technical issue unfortunately will not matter unless this is done. – Mullafacation『talk』 15:11, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

As one of the few people who have donated to Wikipedia, I was upset to come across conversations regarding wiki in the Epstein Files. Large admittance and accusations of “wiki washing.” I’m wanting to know what Wikipedia has done to prevent such things from happening, if Epstein associates’ IPs were successfully blocked or if we could still be reading misinformation regarding this case to date? Email me if needed, but I’d like an answer. Sugarplumpixi (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

It's not unknown for people with a conflict of interest to edit Wikipedia. This article says that Epstein had an associate who tried to manipulate his search engine rankings. It also claims that favourable edits were made to his Wikipedia article. This is all somewhat anecdotal so it needs to be treated with caution. There is more on this at Al Seckel, and it relates to emails exchanged around December 2010.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:10, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes I am aware it is common, just hoping IP addresses were tracked and swiftly blocked.

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Thank you for the article, I see the article states “Subsequent investigations uncovered signs of possible paid or coordinated edits that, for example, changed the word ‘girls’ to

‘escorts’ and amplified the charitable angle, softening the tone around the allegations without fully deleting them.” Although it’s not necessarily a source I would use, I appreciate it nonetheless!

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“Anecdotal” is not necessarily the correct term, as the information comes from government records of private conversations directly from the source of information, proven through metadata; confirmed email conversations between participants, actively creating and enacting plans of wiki-washing. Government records provided by the government, and confirmed through metadata analysis, would not be considered anecdotal, and is a primary source.

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For all intents and purposes, I am simply hoping they have located all edits attached to Epstein and Goons’ IPs and swiftly corrected any false information they attempted to spread. Sugarplumpixi (talk) 09:45, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

See above, it's quite common for people to edit articles related to them to put them in a more-favourable light. As a website anybody can edit, Wikipedia unfortunately isn't foolproof against such conflict of interest editors, although I personally think the community is quite good at catching such editors. Over the years Wikipedia has only gotten more strict with what articles can and can't say (especially with living/recently deceased people and controversial subjects) so I don't think it's a pressing issue. If you're interested in this topic, another interesting one is the United States congressional staff edits to Wikipedia - aka, Congress staffers who edited. They even had their own unique tag, though the abolishment of IPs has rendered this obsolete. jolielover♥talk 13:29, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

@Sugarplumpixi Our in-house magazine had an article on this topic, now archived at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-12-01/From the archives. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:52, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Epstein's 'associate' was full of crap. He claimed to have 'hacked' Wikipedia by replacing one photo with another - as if that was some sort of marvellous technical feat, rather than something the site is designed to facilitate. There is no doubt that Epstein engaged in a great deal of dubious 'reputation management' along with his criminal behaviour, but as far as Wikipedia goes, this doesn't seem to have involved anything particularly out of the ordinary. Undisclosed CoI editing is a serious problem on Wikipedia, but we shouldn't take the claims of those who engage in it on behalf of others it too seriously. They have a direct financial interest in bullshitting their clients. If Epstein really paid 'tens of thousands of US dollars' for reputation management, as our Seckel article suggests, it was clearly a poor investment. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:24, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, if true, Epstein was the victim of a WP:SCAM. Seckel claimed to be some sort of reputation guru, but made Wikipedia edits that were routine conflict of interest. Even Epstein seems to have realized that he was being strung along, and that Seckel was more interested in acquiring large amounts of $ than anything else.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:12, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

I uploaded a picture of a deceased individual using a non-free template and I get this message:

The previous revision(s) of this file are non-free and are no longer being used in articles. Therefore, they fail the Wikipedia non-free content criteria and will be deleted on January 2, 2026. The current revision will not be deleted, only the previous revision(s).

What does this mean? Is it going to delete my uploaded picture or not? Why should I care about previous revisions of this file? Thank you for your assistance. Rogermx (talk) 17:34, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Rogermx.

If you look at File:Paul John Halinan 1.jpg, you'll see that after you uploaded it (on 23rd) DatBot came along on 25th and reduced its size, in keeping with the requirements for non-free images.

This means that the reduced copy is the one now used in the article Paul John Hallinan, so your original uploaded version is not being used in an article, and should be deleted.

There is nothing for you to worry about. ColinFine (talk) 18:00, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Colin, thank you for explaining this. The explanation provided by this bot definitely lacks clarity. Rogermx (talk) 18:25, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I think the bot message already means exactly what ColinFine explained. Is there a simple way you think it could be made clearer? TooManyFingers (talk) 16:02, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

I forgot to say @Rogermx TooManyFingers (talk) 16:03, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

The message failed to say upfront that everything is OK and explain exactly what the bot did. This is how I would word it.

Your image file is good; you don't need to do anything. We simply resized it to meet the fair use standards. Your non-resized image file will automatically delete on January 2, 2026. Rogermx (talk) 21:46, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Would the reference mess up if I edit the non-reference text in Republican Party efforts to disrupt voting after the 2024 United States presidential election? In the edit's preview, the last reference says: "<ref> tag with name :59 cannot be previewed because it is defined outside the current section or not defined in this article at all." rootsmusic (talk) 04:00, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Normally, this warning is only telling you "We can't see :59 right now because we're not currently editing that section, but if you say :59 is still there in that other section, then OK, I believe you." TooManyFingers (talk) 04:21, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

So, as long as reference :59 is still where it belongs and you haven't messed with that part, you're fine. TooManyFingers (talk) 04:32, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

• Draft:Swindon Health Hydro, Formerly Known as Milton Road Baths

I have updated this article to try and meet standards. One element I can't fix is the title - I would like this to be changed to 'Swindon Health Hydro, Milton Road, Swindon'.

I have been working on this article for three years now. To start off with, I got objections that I understood and reacted to. Now it just seems that someone comes in, rejects the article and there's not much I can do. Being told that it reads like an essay or that I'm using informal language hasn't helped at all.

I let Swindon Borough Council use an earlier version of the article on their website - a reviewer thought that I'd plagiarised the whole thing. I explained what had happened and they accepted my explanation but the article still didn't get accepted.

I would like to move on to writing an article about the Great Western Railway Medical Fund Society but I haven't the stomach for another marathon.

Mydaemonthirst (talk) 14:37, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

 Done in this edit Versions111 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

If the article is published it should be at Swindon Health Hydro, currently a WP:redirect to Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths. Adding "Milton Road, Swindon" is known as WP:disambiguation and is not needed if there is only one Swindon Health Hydro on Wikipedia. TSventon (talk) 15:03, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

The Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths article is about just one element in a very large building with a complicated history. That article is part of a series of articles about the Victorian Turkish Baths movement, which is a story that deserves to stand alone. The point you are making is one made three years ago when I started on my article about the Health Hydro. The story of the Victorian Turkish Baths Movement and that of the the Health Hydro as a building deserve to each stand alone, of course with cross-references.

THERE IS NO SWINDON HEALTH HYDRO ON WIKIIPEDIA. There does seem to be an inexplicable determination to make sure there never is. An article talking about just the Turkish Baths, as part of the Victorian Turkish Baths movement, is not telling the nationally important story of the Health Hydro.

I would dearly love to move on to an article on the GWR Medical Fund Society but I need to get the Health Hydro article published first and it seems that this will never happen. Is there any court of appeal that I can approach and make my case? Mydaemonthirst (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@Mydaemonthirst: (edit conflict) There is an existing article, Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths (to which Swindon Health Hydro redirects), that seems to overlap considerably with your draft. Instead of trying to create a new article, perhaps you could add cited information to the existing article. Deor (talk) 15:09, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

The existing article is part of a series of articles about the Victorian Turkish Baths movement. That is its focus and it talks about Turkish Baths in Swindon before they came to be housed in what is now the Health Hydro. If I put the history of the Health Hydro into that article, it would drown out its purpose.

The Health Hydro is a large complicated building with a complicated history. Two thirds of the building were for medical purposes and one third housed the the swimming baths, wash baths Turkish baths and Russian baths. It has gone through a series of changes in its management and uses. It is a remarkable building that is of national importance and deserves to have its own Wikipedia page.

I have put in too much effort to give up now. The story of the building continues and I will continue to update the article with fresh developments. I just hope that, eventually, reason will prevail and the article will be published. I will then able to move on to create an article on the GWR Medical Fund Society.

The current title of my article is a mistake for two reasons, which is why I want to change it. The whole building has never been called the 'Milton Road Baths', only the 'wet side'. And putting two names for the building into the title is likely to cause confusion. I do want 'Milton Road' in the title because many many people in Swindon still think of the Milton Road Baths when they think of the building. Thus I would like the title to be 'Swindon Health Hydro, Milton Road, Swindon'.

I am anxious to get the article published soon as the building will be reopened in January, after refurbishment.

I cannot accept that the story of the Victorian Turkish Baths Movement in the existing article should be drowned out by the whole history of the Health Hydro. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 10:28, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

"I am anxious to get the article published soon as the building will be reopened in January". Please see WP:PROMO and WP:COMMONNAME. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2025-31359-08 (talk) 14:03, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

@Mydaemonthirst: And also remember there is no WP:DEADLINE on WIkipedia.. Bazza 7 (talk) 14:22, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes but this is taking years. I do not believe that the existence of an article about the Victorian Turkish Baths movement should prevent the publication of an article about a particular building in Swindon. This objection is, in one way, a first in that it is a repeat of an earlier objection that I had thought I'd dealt with. For the most part every objection is for a different reason and it's never clear whether I have succeeded in satisfying the objection. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 16:05, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

The fact that it's taking years is nobody's fault and nobody's concern. A Wikipedia article is just history. It bears absolutely no relation to a building reopening. If you want to have promotional material prepared, this is a horrible way of doing it, because it will be re-edited against your wishes and you'll have no recourse. You can set up your own website for promotion. TooManyFingers (talk) 22:00, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

@Mydaemonthirst: yes you are getting nonsense rejections in the draft process, and now nonsense comments here. However, the underlying the problem is for us to work out what this content is about and where it fits in Wikipedia. Often, someone will create a new draft/article as an isolated entity, dump it in the encyclopedia and then a mess ensues - it is not a great situation. All articles are editable, and ideally they should link to one another.

If Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths is about the baths movement, can that be clarified in that article? Then a section there could be created about a particular building, or particular entity, such as Swindon Health Hydro. If there is a heap of coverage in reliable sources, per summary style, an individual article Swindon Health Hydro (currently a redirect) will be required.

I am not proposing a lot of work. A couple of tweaks to Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths from someone who understands the subject and some adjustments to your draft. Then I imagine the draft will be accepted. Commander Keane (talk) 05:57, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

My responses on this topic are perfectly sensible and correct. If you don't like them, that's your business. You may be right about what's needed; I'm not wrong about the situation in general. I hope the article turns out the way you want, and I have nothing against that. TooManyFingers (talk) 07:19, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

NO NO NO! The Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths article is about Turkish baths. That is its purpose - to chronicle the history of Turkish baths in Swindon, as one of a series of related articles on the Victorian Turkish Baths movement. The Swindon Health Hydro article is about the building that happens to contain, among many other things, the latest iteration of Turkish baths in Swindon.

If you think that the Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths article doesn't make it clear that it's about Turkish baths then ask the author of that article to state that they weren't intending to talk about the Amazon Rain Forest. If my article ever gets published, I will update the Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths article with a cross-reference to the Swindon Health Hydro - that would be an opportunity to enter some further clarification.

I have no business interest in the building and it seems that I am being accused of some tacky commercial promotion - is no-one allowed to care about the subject they're covering?

It's not the time it's taking to get the article printed, it's the series of unnecessary and incorrect objections, When valid objections were raised, I reacted to those and corrected my article. If the article were published that would enable others to make corrections and comments - at that point it would no longer be my article but belong to anyone with an interest in the building or its related subjects.

I'm simply trying to chronicle the history of a building of national interest. It seems that the reviewer community (whoever you people are) are determined to dig your heels in and block the article permanently. If that's the case then tell me and I'll go away and I won't trouble Wikipedia again. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 21:37, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

@Mydaemonthirst, I have started a requested move at Talk:Swindon_Victorian_Turkish_Baths to try and get some clarity for this situation. It is now apparent that Swindon Health Hydro is a complex (like a shopping centre, for want of a better comparison) that includes an historic and important Turkish baths facility. As I mentioned on your talk page, not every topic needs an article and we will see for this case.

Editors do not own articles, you don't need to ask the author of Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths about their intentions for the article and for the their permission to edit. Waiting for your article to get published (this isn’t a newspaper and I explained this concept in my previous post above - sentences 2 to 6) to sort out Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths is not ideal.

Incidentally, Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths has been incorrectly using a proper noun and starts with Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths, in Swindon, England, were initially opened... which implies (to a regular Wikipedia editor at least) it is a particular building with that name. Your draft says The Health Hydro is a Grade II* Listed Building. So it looks they are both about the same building and a commercial name change has occurred. Neither article nor draft provide a traditional first sentence (an essential part of a lead, which was requested in the last draft rejection) to explain their context. The situation may seem obvious to you, but it is not to others. Commander Keane (talk) 04:50, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Trying to login but forgot my password. I filled out the email address to have it reset but I don’t ever receive an email to do so. ~2025-43558-71 (talk) 20:24, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email oversight-llists.wikimedia.org. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 05:07, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I have removed your email address--please do not post your personal information here. Someone else might have a better answer, but one thing you could do is you can create another account, and using that account, edit your old account's userpage to mention that you no longer use it. Before creating the new account, please read up on Wikipedia's username policy, to make sure your account complies. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 05:00, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I need your help to fix it in the romanizing of Greek that the President of the Hellenic Republic Constantinos Stephanopoulos declares open the Games of the XXVIII Olympiad of the modern era in Athens, Greece of Athens 2004, accompanied by the Adjutant to HE the President of the Hellenic Republic Officer Colonel Georgios Dritsakos of the Hellenic Air Force. In the List of the people who have opened the Olympic Games. ~2025-41506-13 (talk) 03:49, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Looking at List of people who have opened the Olympic Games, it seems like the article does not include the original language text, only the English translations. I'm not sure what you're asking for help with. Are you suggesting that we change the spelling from Konstantinos to Constantinos? If so, I would suggest that at his main page Konstantinos Stephanopoulos rather than in an article that only mentions him.

If that's not what you're asking about, you may need to explain it differently. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 04:57, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry. Konstantinos Stephanopoulos, the President of the Hellenic Republic declared open the Olympic Games of Athens...and the celebration of the XXVIII Olympiad of the modern era in Greek. It's in the list of the people who speaks their foreign languages and English. Heads of State. Right here. ["Κηρύσσω την έναρξη των Ολυμπιακών Αγώνων της Αθήνας...και τον εορτασμό της 28ης Ολυμπιάδος της σύγχρονης εποχής."] Error: [undefined] Error: {{Lang}}: no text (help): invalid parameter: |rr= (help) - "I declare the opening of the Olympic Games of Athens...and the celebration of the XXVIII Olympiad of the modern era."

— Konstantinos Stephanopoulos, President of the Hellenic Republic ~2025-39997-74 (talk) 05:04, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed the block quotes from the article, as most of the other examples did not use block quotes or non-English text. That resolved the error you were seeing. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 05:25, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I LAST LOGGED INTO WIKIPEDIA ON 22 JUNE THIS YEAR 2025. Today when I am trying to login, you're telling me my username does not exist. It was always my IP address 217.155.200.241 since I created it on 25 August 2005.

Am keen not to lose my 20-year-old back-catalogue of edits. How can I retrieve it? - Thanks DLJ ~2025-43592-21 (talk) 01:48, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

We have never allowed IP addresses as usernames. (In fact, if you edited under an IP address, you never registered an account.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 01:59, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

... and because you never registered, we would be foolish to believe your claim that that was you. You could be anybody. TooManyFingers (talk) 03:46, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-43592-21 If you want, you can register an account, and then write on your userpage something like "I've previously edited as User:217.155.200.241 ." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:09, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

What you used to use as your ID is an IP address, not a user name. IP addresses were never allowed by WP:Username Policy as a user name. They were automatically displayed along edits, but they just identify a place in the net, not a person who made the edit. Nowadays they are masked with temporary account names, but they are still forbidden as a user name. You may want to see WP:USEMODDOMAIN for some more info on current rules of treating IP addresses in context of user id. --CiaPan (talk) 09:33, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I'd like to improve the article Culturally relevant teaching. It's been the subject of several Wiki Education assignments and it just doesn't feel like a Wikipedia article, it feels like a school paper. But I'm struggling to figure out where to start. Does anyone have experience with rehabilitating these types of articles and have advice for how to do so? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 04:50, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

A big part of the problem there is students trying to use fancy language to cover up the fact that they're not actually saying much.

Take the words of those babbling students and cut, cut, cut. Any word that isn't actually serving to explain another thing about culturally relevant teaching, delete it. TooManyFingers (talk) 05:21, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

It's hard to give anything objective; the first thing to do would be to read the sources and see what they actually say, and eliminate any WP:OR and WP:SYNTH that has been inserted onto the sources' content; which is likely to be a lot.

Once you've cut that down, then as TMF says it's just about looking for unnecessarily fluffed prose. Cut down to the absolute basic informative level; if any detail is really needed you can always re-add it later. For instance, a couple of things I notice in the lead;

While the term culturally responsive teaching often refers specifically to instruction of African American students in the United States, it can be an effective form of pedagogy for students of all racial and ethnic backgrounds. can become The term is often, but not exclusively, used in the context of African American students in the United States or something to that effect.

is instruction that takes into account students' cultural differences. Making education culturally relevant is thought to improve academic achievement, but understandings of the construct have developed over time. can very easily be is instruction designed around the cultural differences of students with the aim of improving academic achievememt in students of minority cultures Athanelar (talk) 10:13, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I'm looking for guidance: Seeking help with the Automatic citation tab in VisualEditor. I've tried using it with URLs of court cases and decisions I'd like to cite, and it hasn't worked. e.g. 1, 2. (And Author ID fails with 3.) I'm wondering if it works with some of the more popular court case URLs - e.g. PACER (law), or Recap (software) or Justia or Lexis URLs, or the like, or some format of case citation. More generally, I'm also wondering where documentation of what it works with can be found, and where discussion of improving /expanding its capabilities happens.

Help:VisualEditor#Using Automatic tab doesn't point folks to where the above is happening. If anyone provides answers, I'd be happy to expand it; it could use it.

Looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid, it doesn't seem like the place, but maybe it's in Phabricator? (Hopefully I'm understanding correctly that the Automatic citation tab in VisualEditor is based on Citoid?)

RememberOrwell (talk) 12:12, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

Anyone? RememberOrwell (talk) 11:11, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Another editor change my talk page code so that it worked in dark mode, but to display properly it needs </div> at the bottom. Every time someone posts a message, they add it at the bottom, and hence outside the <div> to </div> zone. Is there any way to force the </div> to the bottom, or otherwise fix this irritation? Thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:50, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Jorge Haddock Acevedo

1-My official name is Jorge Haddock. In Puerto Rico they use Jorge Haddock Acevedo. The editor does not allow me to correct it.

2-My citizenship is US, Puerto Rican citizenship does not exist. The editor does not allow the correction. GuiquiJH (talk) 16:29, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

GuiquiJH Wikipedia does not necessarily use official or legal names as article titles, please see this policy regarding article titles. Wikipedia uses the title most commonly used by sources(for example, Bill Clinton, not his legal name William Jefferson Clinton). New accounts cannot retitle articles, you need to propose a Requested Move to retitle an article, but this should not be done without a consensus that it should be.

I'm not sure what the policy on describing citizenship is. 331dot (talk) 16:33, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I don't know how to code at all and I'm trying to bodge it together from what I can find on the Help: pages but I can't find out how to check whether a wikidata page has a certain property or not.

I want a line of code that goes: if QXXX has the property PXXX, then display text: property , else, do nothing.

thanks a lot! JSeke (talk) 23:12, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Summat like this?

{{#if:{{#property:P1477|from=Q42}}|{{#property:P1477|from=Q42}}|not found}} → Douglas Noël Adams

{{#if:{{#property:P1478|from=Q42}}|{{#property:P1478|from=Q42}}|not found}} → not found

—Trappist the monk (talk) 23:56, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

thank you, that's so simple. I don't suppose you could also tell me a) how to get it to show the value in one specific language for things like names and separately b) how to get it to show the language code of a value in brackets afterwards

much appreciated JSeke (talk) 01:00, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Real-life example of that you want?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 01:12, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

P1705 is native name, I want to know how to get eg. Q104674 to say Ben Nevis (en), Beinn Nibheis (gd), and how to get it to say just one name; either Ben Nevis or Beinn Nibheis JSeke (talk) 01:24, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I would have thought that this is summat that Module:WikidataIB could do. If it is, then I couldn't decipher that module's rather inscrutable documentation. So this:

{{#invoke:Sandbox/trappist the monk/wd p1705|main|<qid>|<selector>}}

where:

<qid> is wikidata Q identifier

<selector> is a digit that selects one of possibly several name/language tag pairs

examples:

{{#invoke:Sandbox/trappist the monk/wd p1705|main|Q41179}} – <selector> omitted, show all name/tag pairs as comma-separated list

មេគុង (km), ປະເທດລາວ (lo), Mê Kông (vi)

{{#invoke:Sandbox/trappist the monk/wd p1705|main|Q41179|3}}

Mê Kông (vi)

Error messages are emitted when required qid is omitted; when <qid> does not include P1705; when selector is not a digit or is out of range.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:00, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

thank you so much! JSeke (talk) 16:37, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

See also {{Wikidata}} (which does some of what you want, but not the multilingual part). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:12, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I've recently encountered the blatant, repeated and UNATTRIBUTED use of Wikipedia text in publications by a commercial organisation - a cruise line. Though this use was not for any direct commercial gain, the text was presented to passengers as if it had originated within the organisation itself, and clearly saved them from having to author the text itself, misleading the passengers into believing the organisation knew facts about the destination that they clearly didn't.

What is Wikipedia's view on this? Should I reveal the name of the organisation so that the management of Wikipedia can take the latter further, or does this fall withing legal usage terms? ~2025-43667-08 (talk) 15:58, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

If it's unattributed, the WMF might be interested, though it probably depends on how big a fish this matter is(so to speak). 331dot (talk) 16:03, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

I suggest you only reveal who it was when (and if) you end up reporting this to someone who has the power to do something concrete about it. Or if someone directly asks and has an official reason to be asking. Whoever they are, don't give them ammunition to attack you with. ("Smearing our good name, our lawyers, blah blah blah") TooManyFingers (talk) 16:08, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately, since the copyright belongs not to WMF but to the individual editor(s) who contributed the copy, only they have recourse to legal action.

See WP:Mirrors and forks#Non-compliance process ColinFine (talk) 16:19, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, you should name them. How was the text presented to passengers? Was it a website (if so, link please) an electronic display, or on paper (and if either of the latter, do you have photos)? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:18, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

When I click a redlink, I'm usually just looking for the deletion log and very rarely want to create the page. Is there a way to make this the default action? Opening the editor sometimes takes a while, especially on mobile. lp0 on fire () 17:10, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

@Lp0 on fire: See Wikipedia:User scripts/List#User:Awesome_Aasim/noeditredlinks.js. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:28, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, that resolves it. lp0 on fire () 17:34, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

Does that include an option to subsequently open the editor? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:15, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, it can then be edited like a normal page. lp0 on fire () 17:16, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Great; thanks. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:38, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

please delete the file I accidentally added the wrong one here is the link to the file ru:Файл:Jskdsdfsdfdfsdfsd.jpg. Yaroslav12012 (talk) 03:43, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

@Yaroslav12012: Are you talking about something you did at the Russian Wikipedia? This is the English Wikipedia and we have no control over what happens there. You would need to ask for assistance there. Johnuniq (talk) 04:04, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Yaroslav12012, no, don't ask at ru:Wikipedia. File:Jskdsdfsdfdfsdfsd.jpg is at Wikimedia Commons (c:File:Jskdsdfsdfdfsdfsd.jpg); you'll have to ask there. Incidentally, when you next ask, an informative title may help you. -- Hoary (talk) 05:16, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

I have tagged the file at Commons, for speedy deletion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:13, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Now deleted. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:55, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Could anyone add their thoughts to this discussion? ~2025-43489-87 (talk) 19:06, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi TA editor, you (I assume it was you) asked about this previously and as advised you started a discussion on the article talk page. As no-one has responded there, I would suggest posting a link to the discussion on relevant wikiproject talk pages, e.g. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. Also it would be useful to check whether online sources have been updated, e.g. the Nobel Peace Prize 2000 page. TSventon (talk) 19:57, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

I have pinged participants in the previous discussion of the subject. TSventon (talk) 22:45, 29 December 2025 (UTC)