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The result of the discussion was delete. Left guide (talk) 22:25, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Institute 4 justice → Institute for Justice  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible/WP:UNNATURAL. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:11, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nom. 77qq 💬 contributions 23:45, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:23, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Epicgenius (talk) 22:01, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

• Green Oaks, Western Cape → Stellenbosch  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There's nothing at the target (or anywhere else in the context of Western Cape) about "Green Oaks", which makes this redirect confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:59, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete: Beyond being unmentioned, a Google search doesn't bring up information about this locale. The page has had 123 views in a decade. Lastly, the Cape Winelands District website has no information about "Green Oaks". Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:08, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per all, and the unsourced pre-BLAR one-liner needn't be kept as well. Jay 💬 05:01, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete+all. ^Complex/_Rational 21:03, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• GLB+Act → Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• The+critic → The Critic  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• San+jose → San José  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Joint+dislocation → Joint dislocation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

More example of redirects where the target article/subject has no affinity with replacing spaces with "+" symbols. See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 November 6#Titles with "+" instead of spaces and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 December 3#Titles with "+" instead of spaces (again) for related discussions. Steel1943 (talk) 20:32, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete+per+nom. Sugar Tax (talk) 20:36, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Delete+all per nom. 77qq 💬 contributions 23:47, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete+all+per+nom.+ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 04:13, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
• delete all per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:24, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete+all+per+nom.+Also+I'd+like+to+note+that+this+is+silly,+and+would+like+to+submit+to+WP:DAFT. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 18:57, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as G6; obvious error acknowledged by mover/creator in log summary. Left guide (talk) 18:22, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• LIsted buildings in Bishop Thornton, Shaw Mills and Warsill → Listed buildings in Bishop Thornton, Shaw Mills and Warsill  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:UNNATURAL, it was at this title for about 4 minutes last year. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:30, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:25, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete; created in error. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:40, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 19:17, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Virus mind woke → Woke#woke mind virus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Mind virus woke → Woke#woke mind virus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These rearrangements appear to be implausible. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:56, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• per delete nom consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 20:35, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete - our search engine already searches by partial title match, and these are not former titles or commonly-known alternative names. These don't make it much more difficult to find the intended target, but they also serve no really useful purpose. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 22:46, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and others. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 00:58, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 10:45, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 19:18, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Justice for institute → Institute for Justice  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:52, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:26, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep. Rusalkii (talk) 00:10, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

• Cat eating hoaxCat eating hoax → Springfield pet-eating hoax  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Cat eating rumorCat eating rumor → Springfield pet-eating hoax  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Springfield hoaxSpringfield hoax → Springfield pet-eating hoax  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Springfield cat rumorSpringfield cat rumor → Springfield pet-eating hoax  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete these ambiguous redirects. They're too ambiguous. There are many places called Springfield. Candidyeoman55 (talk) 18:37, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Keep - but there are few Springfield hoaxes and cat eating rumors. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) — Preceding undated comment added 18:44, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

  And this was not the only dog-eating, cat-eating or pet-eating hoax in history. Rumors of people eating them have popped up many times in history. As I said, there are many places called Springfield, most famously in Ohio and Illinois. Candidyeoman55 (talk) 21:30, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete the two with "eating" in them as unclear. No opinion about the other two. Steel1943 (talk) 22:57, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

  Keep all per Tavix. My folly for not looking at the target first; yep, it's about the Donald Trump speech, and third party search engines return results for this. Seems to be a present day de facto WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT situation. Steel1943 (talk) 18:59, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete the first three as too ambiguous. No opinion on Springfield cat rumor. ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 04:15, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
• Keep all. How are these ambigous? What other notable hoaxes or rumors could any of these redirects refer to? -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:40, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
• Keep all. We have no other articles these could refer to. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:06, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:14, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Κρυπτός → Crypto-Judaism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirect makes no sense, wikt:crypto- is a rather productive prefix. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete. Even the target article makes it clear in the first paragraph that the redirect is not exclusive to the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 06:31, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Steel1943. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 00:59, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:46, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:02, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:AFDPURPOSE → Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#Purpose  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. Section doesn't exist in the target article, and didn't exist even when the redirect was created. Redirect was created by a user in the midst of them bludgeoning this deletion discussion using AI. The policy itself is a hallucination, and the redirect was likely made to cover up the hallucination. Oddly enough, this policy has been hallucinated twice in deletion discussions. ~2025-31416-56 (talk) 17:28, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete - no relevant content at target. I notice in one of those LLM vomit-piles that it's hallucinating links to WP:DELREASON, but rather than a shortcut it's writing a piped link to the deletion policy. Bizarre, but not particularly surprising if someone is prompting an LLM to invent reasons not to delete something. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 05:05, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

If I were to vote, it would look something like this:

• Delete per nom. This redirect is not just unfitting — but counter-intuitive. It is time-consuming, unnecessary, and time-consuming. , and anti-ethical to Wikipedia's policies such as WP:XFDCORP, a great redirect that targets existing policy. As a large language model, some of my borrowed information may be outdated or hallucinated — but I'm trying my best! Please pay 6 kromer to see the rest of the vote. consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 00:51, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 11:03, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to Wikipedia:Guide to deletion#Overview of the AfD deletion process which does a good job of succinctly explaining the purpose of AfD. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:38, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

  for what that's worth, i think that'd be a lackluster target as well. it's less "what afd's purpose is" and more "when and/or why to nom stuff". there's a lot of overlap, sure, but the focus ultimately goes elsewhere consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 11:30, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was tagged G7 by creator. (non-admin closure) Happy Editing -- IAmChaos 19:10, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• 20 de octubre → October 20  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

WP:FORRED - subject has no affinity with the Spanish language. Sugar Tax (talk) 17:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nom 77qq 💬 contributions 18:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

oops Oreocooke (talk) 19:07, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the redirect's undeletion. Rusalkii (talk) 19:19, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Circleboard → Imageboard  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not particularly seeing notability for this. It redirected to a section that was very quickly removed 8 years ago, the site has been down since at least 2017, and I can't find any information about it except for a closed-down subreddit and a YouTube video. TangoWhiskeyDelta (talk) 19:54, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Rusalkii (talk) 19:21, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• St Paul's ShipwreckSt Paul's Shipwreck → Collegiate Parish Church of St Paul's Shipwreck  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is a partial title match which makes much more sense to be retargeted to Acts 27, where Paul's shipwreck redirects, since the church is certainly not more notable than the biblical story. 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 15:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

• Keep. WP:SMALLDETAILS distinguishes the church from the biblical passage. Put an explanatory {{redirect}} hatnote at both. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:40, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

  WP:SMALLDETAILS does not distinguish the church from the biblical passage, as the church is not known as "St Paul's Shipwreck" in short, even the article describes its short name as "Church of St Paul's Shipwreck".

  In fact, WP:SMALLDETAILS actually states:

  "And a well-known concept may still be the primary topic for a variant styling or incorrect spelling [emphasis added], even if a much less well-known subject uses that spelling"

  As stated previously, the church (the "less well-known subject") is clearly less notable than the biblical event (the "well-known concept"). 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 19:47, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

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• Leaning disambiguate. There is also, by the way, the wreck of the SS Saint Paul (1895), and numerous historical shipwrecks associated with the various places named St. Paul. BD2412 T 00:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget - I think "Paul's shipwreck" and "St Paul's shipwreck" are similar enough (and the meaning reasonably clear for the former) that it's logical for them to lead to the same place. I'm not sure making it a dab page is the best option - the phrasing isn't how one would typically search for a wreck of a particular ship or in a particular location. --Sable232 (talk) 03:09, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Left guide (talk) 07:37, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Who Are You: 40th Anniversary Edition → Who Are You#Re-releases  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I removed this from the target, as I could find no sources for it and the creator has created hoax articles. Fram (talk) 13:35, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

Who Are You § Track listing still has 2018 Japanese CD & DVD bonus tracks 40th anniversary edition. Jay 💬 14:31, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

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And it has been removed by Whpq. Delete. Jay 💬 06:34, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete - I cannot verify any sort of 40th anniversary release. That is a rather surprising result for such a famous album if such a release did exist. Looks to be made up. -- Whpq (talk) 18:29, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per above editors' findings --Lenticel ^(talk) 11:04, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these redirects. Left guide (talk) 19:58, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Carbon Crombie → Bonnie Crombie  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Carbon tax Crombie → Bonnie Crombie  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Pejorative nickname not mentioned in target. A Google search suggests this isn't a common nickname either, just a few instances in transcripts of assembly meetings. Rusalkii (talk) 22:04, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was No consensus * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:18, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

• Extreme NorthExtreme North → Far North (Russia)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I don't think there's a primary topic for the term "Extreme North". In addition to Far North (Russia), there's also Far North Region (Cameroon), and also google search reveals that it's the title of several books as well. I initially tried retargeting, but then User:Altenmann reverted me, so per WP:BRD here's an RfD instead Duckmather (talk) 17:10, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes it is primary topic: who cares about Far North Region (Cameroon)?

Anyway, this has nothing to do with wrong redirect I reverted: only a few of Far North called Extreme North. Yu may want the disambig page, Extreme North (disambiguation). --Altenmann >talk 19:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

• Weak keep. A quick look, does suggest that the current target is the the primary topic (although I absolutely do not endorse "who cares about Cameroon"). I've added a couple of things to the Extreme North (disambiguation) page, which should be linked in a hatnote from the Russian region if this redirect is kept. Thryduulf (talk) 19:11, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
  • re: "who cares": <sigh> sadly, the West has little attention to genocide in Cameroon (by the way, in the discussed area) and in Africa in general. I dont see students' protests similar to these about Gaza or Ukraine. --Altenmann >talk 19:19, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to Far North where Cameroon may get the extra attention it deserves. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:05, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
  • You cannot retarget to the term which is vastly different. YOu failed to notice Extreme North (disambiguation), where "Cameroon may get the extra attention it deserves" and has no redundant content. --Altenmann >talk 21:05, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
    • "Far North" and "Extreme North" are simply translation differences, they aren't "vastly different". I didn't fail to notice Extreme North (disambiguation), you created it after this discussion began (and can be redirected to Far North). -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:34, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
      • There is some overlap between the Far North and Extreme North disambiguations, but whether merging the disambiguation pages (note not simply redirecting) would be better than two separate ones is a matter of opinion. Thryduulf (talk) 21:11, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
        • In case I didn't make it obvious: I am opining on the matter. -- Tavix ^(talk) 22:41, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
      • are simply translation differences, no they are not: the terms are diferennt in native languages, see eg, ru:Дальний Север and ru:Крайний Север. --Altenmann >talk 21:41, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

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• I agree. I would see "far north" in terms of distance, and "extreme north" in terms of difficult living conditions. Move Extreme North (disambiguation) to Extreme North. If however, the dab is modified to make Far North (Russia) the primary topic, Keep. Jay 💬 16:59, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

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'''Keep''' Prefer WP:SOFTR - I knew what it meant immediately and extreme north is a term you're more likely to hear from someone already in decently harsh/cold area describing a place even further north and is thus even harsher, and since we already consider it harsh where we are, yeah I've heard extreme north. With that said would prefer a soft redirect as it can be easy to get tripped up on. Beaksters (talk) 15:50, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Forgot the signature Beaksters (talk) 15:51, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Weak keep. Looking at the articles, it looks like that Russia's extreme north would be the primary topic, but I am neutral to retargeting to Extreme North (disambiguation). ChaoticVermillion (converse, contribs) 04:25, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:17, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

• Isha Malviya → Udaariyaan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete Search results will give a much better overview rather than just a simple snapshot of her career: . And if notable, a red link would encourage article creation per WP:RETURNTORED. Servite et contribuere (talk) 14:22, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

• Keep: And restore to article version. Most of the delete advocates are now blocked. Might have been the same user socking. --Kailash29792 (talk) 10:31, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

  If we also ignore the keep votes from the IP and the blocked user, the rough consensus still remains delete. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:40, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

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• Keep: Not necessary to delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OCDD (talk • contribs) 11:54, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
• Delete in favour of search results. Targeting to one TV series is wrong. Jay 💬 10:53, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

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Comment Note to closing admin. The keep argument by OCDD is not based on P&G. Servite et contribuere (talk) 00:56, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Comment Note to closing admin, OCDDD has two comments, with bold keep votes on both of them. It can only be counted as one vote. Servite et contribuere (talk) 09:52, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

small note regarding kailash's comment: while some people in the latter two afds were blocked for socking, it seems to have been 3 different people. still socking, and one even had two accounts in the same afds, but they're not all the same guy. though seeing mushy yank doing the do was definitely a surprise consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 11:00, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

• ...oh right, also, delete, essentially per the afds. the refs in the pre-blar content seem to be either mostly or completely composed of trivial tabloid coverage, user-generated stuff, primary sources, or generally unreliable slurry. the ip that initially restored the article (or made a brand new one, hell if i know) is also an lta, so i'm not entirely sure this discussion even counts lol. regardless, if someone can find sources that are actually usable for an article, this can then be recreated in a way that doesn't look like it was written as an ad consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 11:08, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per Jay and Consarn’s rationales. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 16:47, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: I rescued the infobox and filmography sections from the previous sections, removed certain non notable stuff, added missing work and more refs available. If anyone wants to check they can do so by checking the history. Additionally, my input remains Keep because the individual fulfils notability. Many independent resources are also available. The prose can be debatable but the filmography sections are factual and correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OCDD (talk • contribs) 09:00, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

  wouldn't this be a reason to convert into an article or return to red? if it's just kept, chances are people won't create that article, since there's already a redirect to a clearly suboptimal target consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 11:30, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

  Note this the user's second vote. Jay 💬 07:20, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Left guide (talk) 16:36, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Template:?? → Template:If empty  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unhelpful and misleading redirect. I just removed the 8 usages it had, none of them were for {{If empty}}. Gonnym (talk) 13:43, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete While ?? is a null coalescing operator in some languages, it is infix in pretty much all of them, so using it as {{??|foo|bar|baz}} is at least odd to me when it is normally foo ?? bar ?? baz. Furthermore, as noted by nom, it is used incorrectly fairly frequently, thus it should be deleted for ambiguity. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 14:58, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. Target is not a wildcard. Steel1943 (talk) 20:31, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Casablanca Rock. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 01:01, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 11:04, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:24, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• C. H. Ashokan → T. P. Chandrasekharan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect was nominated for speedy deletion by Ajeeshkumar4u, who gave the reason as "C. H. Ashokan is not mentioned anywhere in the target article T. P. Chandrasekharan". That is true, but not one of the speedy deletion criteria, so I have declined the nomination. However, I have investigated further, and found the following.

• The target article does not contain any mention of C. H. Ashokan, and never has.
• The redirect was created in 2013 by GiantSnowman, who gave no explanation. (Neighbouring edits by GiantSnowman are on totally unrelated subjects.)
• A Google search reveals that the connection between the two is that C. H. Ashokan was accused of being involved in the murder of T. P. Chandrasekharan, though he was not convicted.

I can't see any useful purpose in this redirect: nobody wishing to find information about C. H. Ashokan will find anything about him from this redirect. JBW (talk) 12:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete A mention of him could be added to the Chandrasekharan page, but it doesn't seem warranted. Without that mention, this redirect would just surprise readers. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:04, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Parent. (non-admin closure) feminist🩸 (talk) 06:58, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

• Father and MotherFather and Mother → List of Naruto: Shippuden episodes#Rescue Gaara arc  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This page should be retargeted to Parent or somewhere else. Maybe we can also treat different capitalizations differently. John Smith Ri (talk) 06:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

• Delete. Also a partial title-match for a rather common phrase related to Catholicism. Steel1943 (talk) 22:58, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Retarget to Parent. "Father" and "Mother" are usually capitalized as proper nouns, so this makes sense. 🫀 Crash // Organhaver (talk to me, maybe?) 06:30, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

• Retarget to Parent as plausible synonym. --Lenticel ^(talk) 11:05, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Neither commenter seemed to have strong feelings either way. Rusalkii (talk) 00:13, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

• 2023 Asian Beach Games2023 Asian Beach Games → 2026 Asian Beach Games  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "2023" in the article Vestrian24Bio 02:46, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

• Weak keep They were, for a period of time, planned to take place in 2023, but got delayed. I don't know if it's worth including every delay for these games as they are taking place 6 years after initial planning, but without a mention it is a bit odd.^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Casablanca Rock (talk • contribs) 18:15, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
• Weak delete - there is nothing currently in the article indicating that this event was ever planned to be held in 2023, it just says it was originally scheduled for 2020, then postponed to the following year, then postponed indefinitely, then announced for 2026. I'm not sure that the provided citation is good enough to establish official scheduling, seeing as it's about a different event entirely and just happens to mention these games in passing. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:36, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 04:06, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

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