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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 24, 2025.

Revolutions per hour

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:21, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

I can see the connection but this is a vague phrase that I do not expect anyone to use to end up on the page for hertz (among other things, it is traditionally measured per second, not per hour, and in cycles, not in revolutions). Rusalkii (talk) 21:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Revolutions per minute BugGhost 🦗👻 22:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. We might as well make redirects for "per day", "per fortnight", yadda yadda. This isn't mentioned at the target, nor does it need to be, because it's not a unit that's typically used. If anything, Rotational speed would probably be better, but if there's that much "enh" room in picking a target, it's generally better to just delete. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:40, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    No one is suggesting making new redirects, so that line of reasoning is irrelevant - see User:Bugghost/essays/Keeping isn't creating. No opposition to retargeting to Rotational speed. BugGhost 🦗👻 07:39, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    By sanctioning the creation of this redirect, you are implicitly granting license for others to create other, similar redirects. This is particularly the case if you don't distinguish what makes this redirect stand out as deserving of existence as opposed to those other potential ones. See WP:PANDORA. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 13:40, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    PANDORA is actively misleading nonsense (at best) that harmfully contradicts WP:OTHERSTUFF, WP:CRYSTAL and (frequently) WP:IDONTLIKEIT. We judge redirects based on their own merits, not the merits of something that doesn't exist but which might (or might not) be similar, see WP:NOTPANDORA. Thryduulf (talk) 14:50, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    No, your essay is misleading nonsense, and you haven't offered any suggestion that there are any merits to this redirect. That it was absent for decades, in fact, suggests that people were finding what they were looking for just fine without it. Indeed, we now have three separate potential targets, which also suggests that this isn't likely to ultimately help people. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:01, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    It's not "my" essay, and it isn't nonsense - unlike PANDORA it reflects core policies, guidelines and conventions. You'll find I did offer comments on this redirect below, but that wasn't the point of this comment (which was simply to point out your argument didn't address this redirect). You have now actually commented on this redirect (thank you), but you don't need to be so aggressive about it. Thryduulf (talk) 16:45, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Retarget per Bugghost. Someone using this search term will find the target unsurprising and useful. Thryduulf (talk) 14:51, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    Who is plausibly going to be searching for this and why? And people should be surprised if a unit they search for takes them to a page about a different unit with the search term unmentioned. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:01, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    It's a very similar unit, which could easily be confused. For example, in motoring speed is normally measured per hour (mph, km/h), but engine revs are measured per minute (rpm). It's not implausible that someone could mistakenly think it was "revolutions per hour". BugGhost 🦗👻 19:48, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    And if you think that's actually a likely scenario and benefits anyone, I have some swampland in Florida for sale. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 23:23, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
    35, I don't mind you having a different interpretation about what should or shouldn't be a redirect, but these meaningless snide responses are just kind of annoying. I've explained why I think it's a plausible scenario, and your response is just "no it's not", and employing a cliche to imply that I am stupid. I'm sure you have a real policy-backed reason for why you disagree with me - I would have preferred to read that, rather than this nothing-burger response. BugGhost 🦗👻 00:07, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
    We have no encyclopedic content about the unit "revolutions per hour", and in the exceedingly unlikely scenario that someone wants to look up such an unusual unit, they'll find nothing about it at any of the proposed targets. It's no more or less similar a unit than Angstrom is to light-year. You wouldn't expect either of those to redirect to the other, or to Length in general. Your contorted conjecture about how someone might arrive at this mistakenly really stretches the limits of credulity, and I don't think you should expect anything but a snide retort when you try to pass it off with a straight face. And even if someone did this, it fails a basic WP:XY check -- someone making this mistake should expect "revolutions per minute" no more than they should expect "miles/kilometers per hour". 35.139.154.158 (talk) 02:56, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
    1 lightyear is about 1026 angstroms. They have completely different purposes, values and names - this is not a fair comparison. 1 rpm = 60 revolutions per hour, and they have very similiar names and purposes. I genuinely find it astonishing that you think it literally inconceivable that someone could confuse the two. Did you know that there are people who think the phrase is "it's a doggy dog world"? Keep in mind that we are making a learning resource for people who want to gain knowledge, not just a gathering place for people who already have that knowledge. BugGhost 🦗👻 10:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete or, if retargeted, Refine to #Examples at Revolutions per minute#Examples. Admittedly I don't really care strongly about this one. I think "hour" is a much more plausible search than fortnight or year, so hopefully people don't get carried away and make those crazy-unlikely versions. It's pretty astonishing to search for a unit of measurement, only to end up at a page that doesn't say anything about that unit of measurement. I concur with IP 35 that encyclopedic content is a must to substantiate a redirect, as a general case. I think "hour" instead of "minute" is a bit more forgivable though, because there are examples on the page that measure in /h instead of /m; that is the only way this is passable, from my perspective.
The super easy solution to these types of situations, is to add a line at wherever this page targets, like they have at Cycles per day. Maybe even a citation (hours and minutes are highly related topics true (moreso than fortnights and years), but not the same). Revolutions per second, Cycles per second, revolutions per day, and cycles per day can all logically target the same page, because content exists that covers those topics and no reader is guessing why they are there. Revolutions per hour is a total guess that leaves readers largely unsatisfied. They might think the redirect targeted the wrong place. Usually a red link indicates that we don't have any content on the encyclopedia for a topic. And it is true that in this case we don't have any content on the encyclopedia for this topic. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:27, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 00:02, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete, unless someone provides evidence that this unit is actually used in reliable sources, at least occasionally. The cycles per day example mentioned above is pertinent. This unit is apparently used occasionally, e.g. a quick search brings up this 2017 paper, and it is mentioned in its target article cycles per second. If there are reliable sources using revolutions per hour, they will show us in which context it's used, and based on this we can decide whether the target should be revolutions per minute, Hertz, or some other page, and we can then mention the unit in the target article. But if there are no such sources, we should delete the redirect. We shouldn't create redirects for units that are never actually used. — Chrisahn (talk) 00:37, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete. Hour > minute > second, so let's not pretend like they are the same. Steel1943 (talk) 22:23, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
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My whole existence is flawed

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 06:32, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

Lyric from this song, not mentioned in target. Rusalkii (talk) 21:50, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

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Te Oreore

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 August 4#Te Oreore

Vatinoxan

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The result of the discussion was delete for draft to be moved to mainspace. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:26, 3 August 2025 (UTC)

Created after a page move. Not a useful target for someone wishing to learn about vatinoxan. There is no page/list on a2 adrenergic receptor antagonists. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:11, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Comment. The original page was moved and hour or two after creation, so I can accept that this redirect was essentially created in error. The redirect is linked in TM:Adrenergic receptor modulators incorrectly as an agonist when it is an antagonist. As long as this is a redirect it should probably be removed from the navbox. As a heads up, α2-adrenoreceptor antagonists are found under alpha blockers, though there is no mention of this compound there.
This redirect sees daily use (380 clicks this year) and should be expanded into an article. My cursory searches show there is plenty of material to generate an article as well. ⇌ Synpath 12:25, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
Delete; this is exactly what WP:RETURNTORED is about. ⇌ Synpath 18:52, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
Keep/move/merge, a suitable article has been created—thank you Traumnovelle. ⇌ Synpath 21:00, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
I have enough material to write a few sentence stub currently. Vatinoxan is pretty novel (in terms of widespread adoption) so the more in-depth sources on it are a bit lacking compared to the other a2 antagonists like atipamezole or yohimbine. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:29, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
Actually I had more to work with than I thought. I've got a draft at Draft:Vatinoxan that can be moved to the title instead. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:50, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
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Computer audio

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 August 3#Computer audio

Ice hockey in North America

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Sports in North America#Ice hockey. (non-admin closure) feminist🩸 (talk) 11:26, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure the soft redirect to Wikivoyage is as helpful as the previous list of articles, see Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:28, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

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Template:2027 FIFA Women's World Cup qualification – CONMEBOL table

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The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 17:33, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

No uses of this redirect of any significance; unlikely to be a useful search term as all transclusions now use the new name. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:31, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

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Future North American winters

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The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 17:34, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

No reason for these redirects to exist yet, as nothing can be written about these topics for over a year. No reason to redirect subjects covering "North America" to an article covering "United States": Canada exists, as do 21 other sovereign states in North America. These redirects are not useful until the events of the winters have begun to take place or have reliably-sourced predictions, at which point an article can be created. PamD 15:13, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete speculative, borderline nonsense redirects for expected future events. No information in target article, because these dates are in the future. Unless someone with a time machine comes back to this present with reliable sources of information from the future, these redirects aren't needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:34, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, Joseph2302, WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. There is also a guideline or essay somewhere about not redirecting a global topic to a country specific one but I can't remember where it is (I thought it was WP:INUSA but while that is not unrelated it isn't the right page). Thryduulf (talk) 01:21, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:CRYSTAL --Lenticel (talk) 08:07, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 21:14, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
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Retreat, Hell No!

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 August 4#Retreat, Hell No!

Wireless portal

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Captive portal. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 08:46, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Doesn’t look like the right target Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Retarget to Captive portal maybe? 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:12, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the retarget suggestion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 14:07, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
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Korean civilization

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 August 4#Korean civilization

André da Silva

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The result of the discussion was retarget to André Silva. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 10:53, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

André Domingos (André Domingos da Silva) is not the only person who could reasonable be the target of article under name André da Silva, as André da Silva Gomes and Luís André da Silva also exist, and are close/partial name matches too. Thus better to change the redirect to target André Silva as a {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} in my opinion. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:49, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

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FC Urziceni

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 31#FC Urziceni

Gogonele

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Murături. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 08:46, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

This is the Romanian word for green tomatoes, but the target section does no longer exist and "gogonele" is no longer mentioned in the article at all. Is there a better target for this? ArthananWarcraft (talk) 08:26, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

  • Retarget. Specifically it seems to mean "pickled green tomatoes", and is mentioned a few times in that context with Murături being the best and most specific of them. Thryduulf (talk) 11:38, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Murături per Thryduulf. Not the best target but at least there's context about the term there --Lenticel (talk) 00:13, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Retarget as above. There is a connection between the foreign language word and the target. The target lacks detailed information, but the redirect isn't covering up more useful search results. I see no reason to delete. ⇌ Synpath 20:29, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
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Discrimination (between things)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 07:47, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

I came up with this less-than-perfect page title a few years ago. The title only existed for a month while the move discussion was ongoing. Nothing links to this old redirect (except for a few links on Talk:Discrimination (information), but the content there remains perfectly intelligible if these links turn red). Since it became a redirect, it has received about 1.6 page views per month. It's unlikely that anyone will search for this page title. — Chrisahn (talk) 03:23, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --Lenticel (talk) 00:39, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete as above. The page clogs up search results unhelpfully. ⇌ Synpath 20:15, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
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