Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 June 15

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June 15

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 15, 2025.

Skeleton at the 2026 Winter Olympics – Qualification

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 13:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Qualification hasn't started yet and the redirect article has no information on this particular subject. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete. There are already a bunch of articles at Category:Qualification for the 2026 Winter Olympics and skeleton, with this redirect, is listed at the bottom of several pages. Presumably this will have its own article and a red link might help inspire its creation when the time comes. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 00:01, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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Luge at the 2026 Winter Olympics – Qualification

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 13:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Qualification hasn't started yet and the redirect article has no information on this particular subject. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:06, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Delete. Same reason as skeleton – There are already a bunch of articles at Category:Qualification for the 2026 Winter Olympics and skeleton, with this redirect, is listed at the bottom of several pages. Presumably this will have its own article and a red link might help inspire its creation when the time comes. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 00:02, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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Bobsleigh at the 2026 Winter Olympics – Qualification

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 13:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Qualification hasn't started yet and the redirect article has no information on this particular subject. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:04, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete. Same reason as skeleton – There are already a bunch of articles at Category:Qualification for the 2026 Winter Olympics and skeleton, with this redirect, is listed at the bottom of several pages. Presumably this will have its own article and a red link might help inspire its creation when the time comes. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 00:02, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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Merde

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 June 26#Merde

TA2

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The result of the discussion was Disambiguate * Pppery * it has begun... 19:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

This should be retargetted to Trans-Am Series#TA2. That seems to be the WP:PTOPIC. I brought it here because it's a relatively new redirect. Casablanca 🪨(T) 20:30, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Comment while the most common usage in Wikipedia search results is clearly the nom's suggested target, the anatomy meaning is also widely used and probably wins on long-term signficance. In my google results the overwhelming primary topic is the postcode district (see TA postcode area) and there is also the German torpedo boat TA2 among various other uses (forms, product codes, a grade of titanium, non-notable companies) so there needs to be a disambiguation page for TA2. I'm uncertain at present whether it should be primary, but I'm leaning yes. Thryduulf (talk) 02:33, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate I don't think there is a primary topic here based on usage, it is 3 characters and used in many different contexts, mainly as an abbreviation per Google Books/Scholar (see e.g. "P. putida (designated TA2)"). It seems highly unlikely that TA2's usage as a racing class would outweigh all of these other usages combined. On the other hand, there is that line in the Trans-Am article "TA2 is currently Trans Am's most popular class among competitors and has been exported internationally to Europe, Asia and Australia" which suggests it might qualify under the "long term significance" criterion. I'm happy to be overruled by other editors on this judgement but personally I think it isn't substantially more significant than the use of TA2 as a titanium grade. Anyways, since it's clear that a disambiguation page is needed regardless of whether it ends up at TA2 or TA2 (disambiguation), I wrote that. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 04:21, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • disambiguate clearly should be a disambiguation page, such as the drafted one -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 12:43, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
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Performative feminism

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 22:42, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I initially thought Mainstream feminism was a good target, but it's a redirect. It's often used to refer to White feminism or Imperial feminism instead too. Is the current target any better? Vivb1 (talk) 19:07, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:14, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Any type of feminism could be performative, depending on the context. I wouldn't retarget to any of those places. The current target is more germane. But while it does mention a protest that could be characterized as feminist, it doesn't use the term, leading to the danger that a reader searching the term could be looking for more specific information than we could deliver. If we can't at least fit in a mention of feminism there, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to deletion. --BDD (talk) 18:13, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Keep. I agree it is often discussed in relation to White feminism and Imperial feminism and other hegemonic feminisms, but they aren't strictly synonymous and we can't assume flavor an editor or reader might intend. Performative activism is a reasonable primer on the topic. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 00:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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Tulsi Bhagat

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 14:08, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

No point in a redirect as there aren't generally founders of language projects and this has been deleted multiple times as an article and there is no mention or coverage of Tulsi in the target article, so it's pointless. COOLIDICAE🕶 18:49, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

  • sorry there is apparently a single mention but this is not the case for any other language article that i can tell. COOLIDICAE🕶 18:50, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. And I've also BLAR-ed the target to List of Wikipedias since it contained insufficient information to justify a standalone article. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:24, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete Agree with everything Pppery said and did. This is blatant self-promotion that's been going on for years, and it's a great discredit to the WMF community that they've refused to take notice. Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:20, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
    That last bit is a great point too, though not my point on this RFD, it's still a good one. ;) COOLIDICAE🕶 19:45, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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Resisting arrest

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The result of the discussion was restore article. Jay 💬 17:52, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Not mentioned at target. Rose Abrams (T C L) 17:48, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Comment: I have added Resist arrestResist arrest to this discussion as these redirects most likely need to have a synchronized result. Also, note that Resisting arrest is a {{R with history}}. Steel1943 (talk) 20:19, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Pinging Drmies, the editor who performed the edit that WP:BLARed the article Resisting arrest. Steel1943 (talk) 20:25, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
@Drmies: I also don't know why "resisting arrest" was blanked and redirected to that article. Was that article not well-written enough to have a stand-alone page? Jarble (talk) 23:21, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
I stand by my edit summary. Drmies (talk) 15:32, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Restore Resisting arrest and retarget Resist arrest to it. The reason given for the blar in the edit summary was "what is even the point of this? it was just a random and incomplete and poorly sourced collection of quotes from penal codes". While it was not the greatest quality article ever there was a hell of a lot of information there, much of it encyclopaedic. It needed cleanup and improvement (more prose context, removal of empty sections) not redirection or deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 02:37, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Restore Resisting arrest per Thryduulf. Jruderman (talk) 04:42, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Restore. Yup, the article should have been cleaned up not redirected. There's plenty of salvageable material. I also want to echo that the nominator's concern is valid. There absolutely should be a section about resisting arrest at the current target. -- Tavix (talk) 13:26, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Restore and clean up, per those above. An important and encyclopedic concept. BD2412 T 16:44, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Restore per above. Cremastra (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
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Earl of Inchequin: restoration of honours, manors, lands and tenements in Ireland.

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 June 26#Earl of Inchequin: restoration of honours, manors, lands and tenements in Ireland.

Entertainment complex

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The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 19:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Vague term that doesn't seem to have a commonly understood meaning. Google searches return the Civilization VI game element as the top results. Places whose name include the term seem to be a mix of varied uses, including indoor malls with cinemas, bowling alleys, etc.; integrated resorts with casinos; sports and leisure centres; and some others. The only definition I could find was from The Complete Real Estate Encyclopedia via thefreedictionary.com, which says an entertainment complex is "A shopping center that features theaters, restaurants, amusements,and related retail stores". The Wikipedia article for home entertainment center claims "entertainment complex" as a synonym, but I find that highly questionable. There don't seem to be good discrete targets that could be listed in a disambiguation page, so suggest deletion. Paul_012 (talk) 09:42, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Pinging Jothefiredragon, who first raised the issue at Talk:Family entertainment center. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
  • While I really want to state a specific comment. I really don't know what to say about this particular redirect.🐲Jothefiredragon🔥talk🧨contributions✨log🐉 09:53, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
    • redirect to Integrated Entertainment Business Bill as Reuters does use the term with this exact capitalization. “Thai lawmakers will begin deliberating a draft law for casinos and entertainment complexes next month”🐲Jothefiredragon🔥talk🧨contributions✨log🐉 11:06, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
      • I would oppose retargeting to the Thai use, as it's over-specific. Entertainment complex (Thailand) could be redirected there instead. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:09, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
        @Paul 012 Wouldn't it be awkward that Entertainment complex (Thailand) becomes a redirect with a target but Entertainment complex page doesn't exist at all? 🐲Jothefiredragon🔥talk🧨contributions✨log🐉 14:37, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
        Maybe; it's an imperfect scenario. At the very least, Entertainment Complex Bill should redirect to the draft law as it's bolded as a synonym in the first sentence (I'll go ahead and do so), so maybe the (Thailand) one doesn't need to be created. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:35, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
      My concern with this option is that it is essentially a WP:PTM at best towards a {{R avoided double redirect}} when there is apparently a separate, potentially notable subject which could be called an "entertainment complex" that we just need to write an article about. Steel1943 (talk) 18:20, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • delete too vague Thepharoah17 (talk) 09:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep. A complex is usually either multiple buildings or a building with multiple rooms. An entertainment complex would be one where those buildings/rooms provide some kind of entertainment, which is captured in Family entertainment center. I get that the use of 'entertainment complex' in Integrated Entertainment Business Bill is not as family friendly as Family entertainment center but this simply points to the fact that perhaps a new article is needed to capture the non-family friendly aspects of an entertainment complex. It does not mean that the redirect is redundant or misleading.
    I agree with Paul that redirecting to the Thai use is over-specific. Katiedevi (talk) 15:29, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete as vague. Could just as well refer to Multiplex, Amusement park, and probably some other things, none of which are close enough to point to. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:53, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Disambiguate. Here is a decent start on a disambiguation list - Multiplex (movie theater), amusement park, shopping mall, casinos, media-focused conglomerate, family entertainment center, entertainment center, maybe even the Thailand bill. Given the lack of encyclopedic information, the primary topic here should probably be a Wiktionary entry. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 05:02, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
    I've never heard of most of those topics referred to as an "entertainment complex". What you have stated is essentially a WP:DABCONCEPT at best if an "entertainment complex" is a facility which may contain one or more of these. Steel1943 (talk) 18:18, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete, far too vague for disambiguation: For one, I would believe a "complex" contains multiple "centers", meaning they may not be the same subject. Steel1943 (talk) 13:11, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
    "too vague to disambiguate" is like "too messy to clean". The topic is definitely notable, plenty of reliable sources use it even if they don't agree on what the definition is. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 17:35, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
    @Mathnerd314159: "The topic is definitely notable", in this specific instance, can translate to "delete this redirect per WP:REDLINK". Steel1943 (talk) 18:15, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
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Miley Cyprus

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The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 18:30, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Implausible misspelling. Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 04:33, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete. The artist is not a tree country. Mdewman6 (talk) 06:56, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
My bad, that would be Cypress. Mdewman6 (talk) 05:39, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
Are you sure? -- Tavix (talk) 18:18, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete highly implausible Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:43, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment is this an auto-correct error formatted redirect? -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 20:10, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
    I dont know. If anyone here uses autocorrect try this. DrinksOrCoffeetalkContribs 15:58, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep, plausible error. Examples include . -- Tavix (talk) 18:18, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • delete. p isn't close enough to y or r on a qwerty keyboard for it to be plausible, and even the links tavix provided also spell her name correctly (or so i assume for the third one, i couldn't see past the ads) consarn (grave) (obituary) 18:02, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
    I'll help you with the links. First: Some critics predict the pop singer Miley Cyprus may take home the Record of the Year award... Second: Liam and Miley Cyprus have been spotted about... The third has a picture of her with the caption Miley Cyprus. The fact that those articles also spell her name correctly elsewhere in the article demonstrates that it's an error and not a deliberate choice to spell her name that way. And that there are several articles with the spelling demonstrates that it's a plausible error. Plausible errors should be kept. By the way, I'm not claiming that it's a typo so I don't care how it's typed; the error is of the autocorrect variety because Cyrus is very close to the spelling of Cyprus so some devices would assume you're trying to spell the name of the country instead of her name. -- Tavix (talk) 13:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete, very unlikely error. Just because you can find it being made in the wild a handful of times doesn't mean we need a redirect to match. A reasonable person wouldn't really expect this to work, and even then, I suspect (although can't be sure) that the search function would return the intended article as a top suggestion anyway. She's so (baffingly) popular and talked about, that you can make almost any random typo of her name, and find someone else has already made it somewhere. We should not be making redirects for all of those. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:15, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
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Blood sport (BDSM)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 18:36, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

A) this isn't even the correct KIND of fetish, B) this target has nothing on blood sport / blood play, nor does sexual fetishism. List of paraphilias has autovampirism and hematolagnia, which are similar but not the same as blood play (which Wiktionary defines as "Sexual activity in which a participant is deliberately cut so as to release blood.") User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 12:09, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

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Arrowroot biscuit

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Psynapse

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Traveler-oriented business

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 19:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Seems to be ambiguous to a point where there is no adequate target for this redirect. Some examples of targets this redirect could refer are Travel agency and almost any article about a subject that assists travelers (air, bus, train, etc.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:45, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Leaning delete for no good target. I wouldn't expect to find articles about modes of transport from this search term, but rather an article about the business sector aimed at travellers and tourists/tourism - travel agencies, tour operators, tourist information centres, Corporate travel management, that sort of thing. However we don't have an article on that I can find tourism sector is a redlink for example (Tourism sector in Iran is the only similar title to exist, but that's obviously not a suitable target here). Businesses provided services to the travelling communities (e.g. Gypsy, Roma and Traveller people (UK)), but I'd be very surprised if that was the primary topic but would definitely merit a hatnote or dab entry if we have an article. I support disambiguation in principle but I'm not sure it would be viable since I've failed to find articles that match the scope of pretty much everything I've thought of this could refer to. Thryduulf (talk) 23:14, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Travel agency per nom. Similar redirects to travel agency are Travel company, Travel services, and Travel consolidators. Jay 💬 19:04, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
    At least the first two of those are also refer to much broader concepts than just travel agencies and so should be deleted alongside this one if we have no suitably broad target. The third redirect is a term I'm not familiar with and haven't investigated so no comment on that now. Thryduulf (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per Thryduulf. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:48, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Delete Not a common phrase, doesn't correspond to any single Wikipedia article. The similar phrase "tourist-oriented business" has some use, including legal definitions in some jurisdictions, but I don't think that helps us here. (Tourist-oriented businessTourist-oriented business currently redirects to Tourism.) Jruderman (talk) 13:17, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
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Dry heat

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The Apopka Chief

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. There was agreement that linking to the External links section was incorrect. I am retargeting to the list entry as a better target. Jay 💬 10:52, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

"The Apopka Chief" is the town newspaper which is in fact linked in the external links section. My instinctive reaction is that pointing to an external links section is obviously incorrect, but I can see the argument that this is in fact helpful. I'm not sure what to make of this redirect, thoughts? Rusalkii (talk) 21:50, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

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Earthen Vessel

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Wikipedia:MODS

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The result of the discussion was Retarget to Wikipedia:Moderators * Pppery * it has begun... 19:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I feel like this is better off being retargetted to Wikipedia:Moderators, as "mods" is short for "moderators" and in any case, Wikipedia admins are not mods. --Plantman (talk) 03:20, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Comment could also be targeted to WP:Modifications. Legend of 14 (talk) 03:30, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
I've never heard "mods" as short for "modifications", only "moderators". --Plantman (talk) 03:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Never heard of downloading a mod for a game? Or see What is body mod. Or see Garry's Mod. Legend of 14 (talk) 03:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Well, tbh I don't really play video games. But I also don't see how any of the listed uses of "mod" are related to Wikipedia policy. I hear the term "discord mods" or "reddit mods" a lot more, and people are more likely to look for "Wikipedia:MODS" with that latter sense of the word in mind. --Plantman (talk) 04:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
I disagree. Legend of 14 (talk) 16:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
That’s fine. You don’t have to agree with me, I was just trying to explain my point of view. --Plantman (talk) 17:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate between the these topics, and WP:Bureaucrats as well -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 04:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • "Mods" as in moderators strikes me as the most nautral by far, "mods" as in modifications (video game or otherwise) seems unnatural in this context. My inclination would be to point to Moderators and maybe hatnote Modifications; a dab page seems excessive for a project shortcut with very small number of incoming links. We could add the crats to the Moderators disambig page as well, and then that'll cover all the topics suggested by the IP. Rusalkii (talk) 18:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
    • In my opinion, modifications would just be as likely, as you'd want to know what mods (modifications, software modules, addons, extensions) Wikipedia is running on MediaWiki, to figure out what functions are available. -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 19:14, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Moderators which is a list of things that could be called "moderators". IMO, in the context of Wikipedia, "mods" as in "moderators" is a more plausible target, but a hatnote to WP:Modifications would still be useful. 🦬 Beefaloe 🦬 (talk) 10:40, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Moderators with a hatnote to Wikipedia:Modifications. Malinaccier (talk) 17:12, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
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  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Moderators and add hatnote per above. That disambiguation page also lists failed proposals of Wikipedia moderators, which WP:MOD leads to one of them (2016 proposal). Also, should we bundle WP:MOD into this nomination? Justjourney (talk | contribs) 03:29, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Moderators per others above or delete per Isaacl below. Apparently this had been raised way back in 2009 where it was already agreed to be misleading. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:00, 6 June 2025 (UTC), 20:27, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete: there are no actual uses of this redirect. There's the discussion about the redirect referred to by Paul_012, and there's a typo on Category talk:Concertos by Arthur Sullivan where the intent was to point to the manual of style. All other references are related to this deletion discussion. If there are no extant uses since its creation in 2007, I don't see a need to redirect it to a disambiguation page. isaacl (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Comment: Also fine with deletion; modified my !vote above. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:27, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
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Earl Sweatshirt's third studio album

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The result of the discussion was No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 19:13, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Placeholder name for then-untitled album. Has long been released and known by a name. Roast (talk) 23:03, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Keep WP:CHEAP and accurate. Someone might have forgotten the name; this redirect is pretty harmless. Cremastra (Go Oilers!) 01:37, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Agree, keep. DrinksOrCoffeetalkContribs 17:20, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete, WP:COSTLY and mostly useless. A reader generally wouldn't (and shouldn't) expect "X's nth studio album" to be the way to find it. Looking at the page history, we see a WP:CRYSTAL ball article, which was PRODded and then redirected a couple times...this has approximately zero keep value. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:27, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep per Cremastra. Plausible and unambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 12:57, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per 35... This is a bit like those pesky (unreleased...) redirects: they have no utilty shortly after the release. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:19, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per the IP. (Also, WP:CHEAP doesn't provide any validation for why a redirect should be kept or deleted ... it just states that we shouldn't concern ourselves with the server space that redirects use. Just FYI ... since I stopped linking that shortcut when I realized this myself. 😂) Steel1943 (talk) 21:51, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
Keep Per Cremastra and WP:Cheap Servite et contribuere (talk) 22:51, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
Seriously ... does anyone even read the target of WP:CHEAP? This nomination has nothing do do with any type of "WP:CHEAP" dispute. Steel1943 (talk) 20:06, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
@Steel1943: The nomination doesn't make an argument about system space, but then again barely anyone does. I was using WP:CHEAP as a widely recognized shortcut to mean that Redirects are cheap [...] it doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around, that this redirect is harmless, costless, and a small net positive – which these days is the understood meaning of citing "WP:CHEAP". You have a fair point that the actual target is not very relevant, so my linking to WP:CHEAP was not really necessary, as everyone would have understood what I meant if I said "cheap and accurate". Maybe the essay should be revised to what it's currently used to mean. Cremastra (talk) 19:08, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Delete per 35.139. Unless "Nth studio album" redirects become a widespread norm, then it doesn't feel plausible that people would type in this term to look up what album it describes; I'd expect that someone searching for that info on Wikipedia would be likelier to just go to Earl Sweatshirt#Discography and start counting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:43, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep, harmless at worst useful at best given that this is in fact Earl Sweatshirt's third studio album. -- Tavix (talk) 19:03, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
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Earl Sweatshirt's 2nd studio album

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Jay 💬 11:08, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Placeholder name for then-untitled album. Has long been released and known by a name. Roast (talk) 23:02, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete, WP:COSTLY and mostly useless. A reader generally wouldn't (and shouldn't) expect "X's nth studio album" to be the way to find it. It was an unreferenced stub for a few days before being redirected, and there's no value in keeping it. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:29, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep, plausible per Cremastra's comments at #Earl Sweatshirt's third studio album and unambiguous, making this WP:CHEAP. Thryduulf (talk) 12:58, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
    ...Does anyone actually read what WP:CHEAP is about? Steel1943 (talk) 21:52, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per 35... This is a bit like those pesky (unreleased...) redirects: they have no utilty shortly after the release. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:20, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Delete per 35.139. Unless "Nth studio album" redirects become a widespread norm, then it doesn't feel plausible that people would type in this term to look up what album it describes; I'd expect that someone searching for that info on Wikipedia would be likelier to just go to Earl Sweatshirt#Discography and start counting. I'm also skeptical that someone writing out a long prose phrase like this would use "2nd" over "second". ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:44, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep, harmless at worst useful at best given that this is in fact Earl Sweatshirt's 2nd studio album. -- Tavix (talk) 18:59, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
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Jay-Z's twelfth studio album

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The result of the discussion was No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 19:13, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Placeholder name for then-untitled album. Has long been released and known by a name. Roast (talk) 23:02, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete, WP:COSTLY and mostly useless. A reader generally wouldn't (and shouldn't) expect "X's nth studio album" to be the way to find it. This one's especially unlikely given that "twelfth" is spelled out, and that none of the other previous 11 albums have such redirects. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:31, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep a plausible (per #Earl Sweatshirt's third studio album) and unambiguous search term, making this a WP:CHEAP redirect. Deletion would inconvenience readers without bringing any benefits. Other unambiguous redirects of the form "artist's nth studio album" should be created where relevant for the same reasons as this should be kept. Thryduulf (talk) 13:00, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per 35... This is a bit like those pesky (unreleased...) redirects: they have no utilty shortly after the release. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:20, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
Keep Per Thryduulf Servite et contribuere (talk) 22:52, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Delete per 35.139. Unless "Nth studio album" redirects become a widespread norm, then it doesn't feel plausible that people would type in this term to look up what album it describes; I'd expect that someone searching for that info on Wikipedia would be likelier to just go to Jay-Z#Discography and start counting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:44, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep, harmless at worst useful at best given that Magna Carta Holy Grail is in fact Jay-Z's twelfth studio album. -- Tavix (talk) 18:57, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
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Wikipe

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The result of the discussion was Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 19:12, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Unlikely target. I've never heard of "Wikipe-tans" being called "Wikipe(s)". Maybe this should be retargeted to Wikipedia, similar to Wikipedi. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 03:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete. If there is an appropriate target, this isn't it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:54, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep since "-tan" is a suffix from Japanese similar to -chan/-san/-sama, so the term stripped of its honorific suffix would seem to be a variant for a redirect.Wikipetan/Wikipe/Wikipe-tan would therefore exist. -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 19:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
  • delete as vague. how can we know which letters are missing? consarn (grave) (obituary) 15:34, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep per the IP, which explains how people familiar with the subject of the article can know which letters are missing. "how can we know" is bad reasoning after someone explains, and the first delete vote is basically "this is a bad redirect", which shouldn't count once someone provides an explanation. Nyttend (talk) 19:25, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
    • I understand the IP, but I don't buy it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:55, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep (as creator): For context, this redirect came from WP:AFC/R. Per above, stripping the honorific “tan” is grounds for a “short name” redirect. I see a valid argument for retargetting to Wikipedia as well. The debate really should be where this redirect should target, and I see a better argument for leaving it alone. I struggle to see where this meets any of the WP:R#DELETE criteria. Garsh (talk) 01:08, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Keep per 65.93 and Garsh, since "Wikipe" is just "Wikipe-tan" with the suffix removed. Retargeting to Wikipedia would be acceptable to me as well, though a little less natural of a fit. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:47, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
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Iran War

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of wars involving Iran. Jay 💬 11:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Should this redirect to List of wars involving Iran? If not, there should at least be a hatnote at the current target pointing to this list. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 08:17, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Unless, of course, the Iran-Iraq War is actually also called "Iran War". In that case, there should only be a hatnote. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 23:38, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Retarget to List of wars involving Iran — seems to have been targeted to Iran–Iraq in a recentist mindset that didn’t account for the fact that countries do things like fight in more than one war. Roast (talk) 21:21, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
I agree; other titles like Ukraine war and Israel war redirect to lists of wars, even if one particular war is current or recent. Anyway, the Iran-Iraq War is not very recent, and most people searching for "Iran War" right now will probably be looking for Iran-Israel War. However, that is also recentism, so the best thing to do is probably just redirect to List of wars involving Iran and let the reader find the correct war. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 21:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
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Saw Shalom

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 11:18, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saw Shalom closed with consensus to delete and this redirect was created immediately after, despite having no support, by the creator, who was very disruptive and had to be taken to WP:ANI for repeatedly disrupting this AfD. The more I look into this, the more I oppose the redirect. There is no evidence on my internet searches, using multiple search engines, that there was ever a player called "Saw Shalom" or "Saw Shalom Haythaw" playing for Gymkhana. The only hits coming up are direct Wikipedia mirrors. In fact, I can't find any sources for the players listed at Gymkhana FC in their 2017 squad at all. Even if this can be verified as true, in a case where a footballer has played at 19 clubs or more, we would never redirect to just one of their clubs, especially not one that they haven't played for for over 8 years. Woodlands Lions FC would make slightly more sense, as it is allegedly his current club, but I still oppose this as I can't find one reliable source linking him to that club and we still don't generally redirect to their current club for footballers as that can change on a regular basis. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 07:49, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 08:42, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 10:56, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Generally speaking, redirecting to clubs is frowned upon, given that players often transfer and will play for multiple clubs across their career. GiantSnowman 10:57, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
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PC-80

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The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 19:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I can't find evidence that this was referred to as the PC-80 (as opposed to 8000). Lots of hits in lot of places for lots of things, including several different computing devices, a gun, a solubilizer, camera, etc etc. Onwiki we have Heron Cars#PC 80 (note lack of dash) and an entry at List of carbines. I don't think either of these make great targets, I think I'd prefer deletion given the distinct lack of primary topic for a rather vague term, but the carbine seems better than the current target. Rusalkii (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Just like how PC-88 is short for PC-8801 and PC-98 is short for PC-9801, it makes sense for PC-80 to be short for PC-8001. JumpmanMario2K6 (talk) 18:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
It definitely makes sense, I wouldn't blink if this was in fact in common usage, but as far as I can tell it in fact is not. Rusalkii (talk) 18:54, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Well according to Russian Wikipedia, I did see the PC-80 name. JumpmanMario2K6 (talk) 18:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
Well the term "PC-80" refers to a special gun. 2A02:C7C:FC75:6F00:476F:3A1D:3E85:5077 (talk) 15:26, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • Delete. I can't find evidence either. Also delete PC80 - an equally new redirect created by the same user. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:47, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
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  • delete. while the pattern implies this would be a common nickname, it just kind of... isn't. results for "pc-80" imply that the primary topic is an old as Fuck gun, and results for "pc80" mostly gave me construction equipment consarn (grave) (obituary) 18:14, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
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Hop (TV series)

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Andrew Elias

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

This redirect just points to a random song that this person worked on. It does not direct the reader to any notable information about this person. Unless there is an article that contains well-cited details about this person, I propose deletion. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 02:16, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. There seem to be multiple people with this name on enwiki, but no articles on them. Jay 💬 11:25, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
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Danse

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The result of the discussion was Disambiguate * Pppery * it has begun... 19:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Originally was the title of Danse (song), now no longer of any use. Thepharoah17 (talk) 02:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

If deleted, Danse (song) will be WP:MALPLACED and then moved to Danse. Ninixed (talk) 04:46, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Comment: "Danse" is also the name of a character listed at Fallout 4#Characters. Steel1943 (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Possibly wrong forum. Sounds like a move request to move Danse (song) to Danse. Steel1943 (talk) 20:12, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate. I began a disambiguation page draft below the redirect. - Eureka Lott 16:48, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate, distinct spelling with its own possible meanings. 162 etc. (talk) 21:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
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SINGERS

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The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 19:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Originally created as a redirect to Singers (album), no longer any use. Thepharoah17 (talk) 01:50, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

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Sir Osthara

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The result of the discussion was soft retarget to Businessman (soundtrack). Thepharoah17, note that you can retarget this sort of thing yourself instead of sending it RfD. Rusalkii (talk) 18:45, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Maybe this is the right target: Businessman (soundtrack) Thepharoah17 (talk) 01:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

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American Businessman

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