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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:02, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

• Zeroth Satanic Church → Church of Satan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A name no one has ever used, in a search of news, books, and google. My assumption for why this was made is that there is a schism of the CoS called the First Satanic Church, so by extension this could be the Zeroth, I guess? still, never has been used. We cannot make up names. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:57, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Katiedevi (talk) 02:20, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:28, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. There's consensus to delete in this discussion. No prejudice to an RFC on the broader topic of possessive redirects. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

• Anton LaVey's → Anton LaVey  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible redirect. We do not have an r from possessive, nor should we. No use. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:47, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Keep, harmless at worst and useful for linking at best. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:11, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  WP:PANDORA. Should we have these for everyone? If not, this is useless and you should never link the possessive with the name. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:18, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  Anytime someone finds it useful, absolutely. Also, please put Pandora back in the box. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:58, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  Then why not keep all redirects? No one has ever found it useful, any more than any other nonsense typo. I could not disagree with that essay more. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:04, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  Some redirects are harmful, misleading, or otherwise confusing. This one is none of those things. It's been existing harmlessly for 18 years, and it should continue to be left alone. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:10, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, and I would say this redirect is harmful. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:20, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  How so? -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:24, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  Encouraging the creation of a useless redirect for every biography on the site to the tune of 2 million, when they have 0 use and should never be linked per MOS:LINK, is harmful, a la Neelix. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:33, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  The creation of other redirects like this is a Good Thing and should be encouraged. Due to a bug in the MediaWiki software, the MOS:PIPESTYLE trick does not work with possessives. The apostrophe and everything after it gets left off the link. As someone who has deleted thousands of Neelix redirects, I can confidently say that Neelix is irrelevant here. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:40, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  What would be a single use case for linking the possessive rather than someone's name? PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:43, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  Whenever an article is introducing someone as a possessor of something. If an article is describing "Anton LaVey's Satanism" and that's the first mention of LaVey, it'd be useful in that instance to link to LaVey's biography and the easiest way to do that is [[Anton LaVey's]] Satanism. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:55, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  The easiest way would be [[Anton LaVey]]'s Satanism the "'s" is not part of the link, nor should it be. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:58, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  It doesn't look right that way. The 's is part of the word and thus needs to be part of the link. -- Tavix ^(talk) 10:55, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  It does look right and is a more faithful way to produce the link. The subject of "Anton LaVey's Satanism" is the particular doctrine he founded, not the man himself. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 13:59, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  Well if you specifically want the doctrine he founded, it'd be LaVeyan Satanism. My example presumes there's another place to link to that article, and the author is wanting a concise way to link to LaVey's biography. Not a perfect example I admit, but it's simply for the purposes of illustration. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:58, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  And this illustrates the problematic nature of these redirects. The possessive changes the subject. We are no longer referring to Anton LaVey but to something he owned, originated, is strongly associated with, etc. Most plurals don't have the same problem although of course we can come up with examples where the meaning is different. I don't know whether this not PIPESTYLE not working with apostrophes and other punctuation is truly a bug or is a feature, but it makes sense. Such modifications typically change the meaning of a word, whether as a possessive marker, for negation, or even variant plurals (1990's ≠1990). —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 19:16, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

  ...but we're still referring to Anton LaVey in some form. To readers who want to learn more about him, a link to his biography is helpful. -- Tavix ^(talk) 13:34, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

  And Anton LaVey's Satanism accomplishes that just fine while leaving no ambiguity as to what the linked phrase refers to (per WP:EGG), unlike Anton LaVey's Satanism which should point to LaVeyan Satanism. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 01:54, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

• maybe try doing an {{outindent}} like what I just did Thepharoah17 (talk) 02:16, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
• delete as unnecessary, bordering on a skill issue. linking words and then having an apostrophe immediately following them is fine, piped links are fine, really, there's no problem with the solutions presented. creating an entire redirect for just one type of contraction, though... nah, too much time and effort to avoid pressing ctrl + k a little early, pressing backspace twice, or even just clicking on what will usually be the first result when linking something with the link button (or ctrl + k as i mentioned before). i'll also note that some tools automatically convert stuff like "ball's" into linking the whole word, but some don't, and i think that could very easily be made into a universal function consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 12:08, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

"Unnecessary" is not a reason for deletion and the fact that there are multiple ways to link doesn't make this way "a skill issue". -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:58, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete's the way to go here. Steel1943 (talk) 02:47, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete's per nom. ArthananWarcraft (talk) 06:04, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
• Procedural close and start larger discussion per the close of WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 August 19#Canada's. Jay 💬 11:31, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per my comments above and in prior discussions. (I thought I had already !voted in this one.) I agree that a wider discussion about possessive redirects could be helpful but that shouldn't preclude an assessment of consensus for this listing. Most of these have been deleted and a minority have been no-consensus keeps (see older discussions linked in Canada's RfD for additional examples). —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 17:19, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete Silly, unneeded. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:36, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:03, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

• Comissário (Macau) → Police commissioner#Portugal  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Intendente (Macau) → Intendant#Portugal and Portuguese Empire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Macau not mentioned or alluded to in targets. While you can extrapolate that perhaps Macau had a similar system while under Portuguese rule, I don't think these redirect will actually help anyone searching for information on the meaning of these words in relation to Macau. Rusalkii (talk) 23:45, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:36, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Worldwide Churchof Satan → Church of Satan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Worldwide Church of Satan . → Church of Satan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Also Worldwide Church of Satan . The Church of Satan has never been called this. From the page history, both appear to have been originally in reference to an entirely unrelated Satanic group that operated a geocities page (behold... "Frank Hitler"?). Also, neither page title is even spelled correctly for this other group, the spacing and the period are very implausible. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:35, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete both as malformed; I defer to PARAKANYAA on the question of whether this is a reasonable name for the group but even if it was these are not particularly useful. I've bundled the weird punctuation one in properly Rusalkii (talk) 23:58, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
• delete the first as an implausibletypo, and the second as "citation needed"... and as an implausible . typo consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 10:47, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:51, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

Delete both. LDW5432 (talk) 20:51, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:36, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• K109 → Grand Theft Auto IV#Soundtrack  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• K109 The Studio → Grand Theft Auto IV#Soundtrack  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target Mdewman6 (talk) 23:24, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 21:42, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:36, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Completioner → The Completionist  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

no mention in target article that this name was ever used Karl 334 ^{Talk--Contribs} 21:14, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete. No reference to the YouTuber in the first three pages of Google hits. Google assumes it's a misspelling and I mostly get dictionary entries for completion and a bunch of other random stuff. I even found pages using the word completionist, one in a video game context, but zero with any reference to the YouTuber. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 22:23, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:37, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Look At It! → The Completionist  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Play It! → The Completionist  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Finish It! → The Completionist  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Complete It! → The Completionist  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

catchphrase not likely to require redirect Karl 334 ^{Talk--Contribs} 21:09, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

Oppose: harmless redirect Humanbeing9 (talk) 23:19, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• I have bundled several related nominations with the same rationale and same opposition to deletion by Humanbeing9. Rusalkii (talk) 23:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, actively confusing if not mentioned in target. Rusalkii (talk) 23:54, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. These are extremely common phrases; too vague to point to a specific article. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 23:16, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:37, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• JWBS → Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Script  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• XFDcloser → Wikipedia:XFDcloser  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Newly created Cross-namespace redirect; anyone who has any business using JWB or XFDC knows how to use WP: shortcuts. Rusalkii (talk) 19:38, 17 October 2025 (UTC) Bundled XFDcloser. Rusalkii (talk) 20:15, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

For convenience. Saves you 3 extra button clicks. 8rz (talk) 19:44, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

XFDcloser: But isn't XFDcloser exclusive to Wikipedia, and there is a page on it in the projectspace. Alternatively, we could turn this into a mainspace article. - BᴏᴅʜıHᴀᴙᴩ (talk, contributions) 20:19, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete all as not useful. To be clear, saving 3 button clicks is not useful. -- Whpq (talk) 22:02, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

  But for the XFDcloser, there is more argument for keeping it than just "saves you 3 extra button clicks." - BᴏᴅʜıHᴀᴙᴩ (talk, contributions) 22:32, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

  Your arguments don't really make any sense so I did not address them. So what if XFDCloser is exclusive to Wikipedia? That isn't a reason for a redirect. And there are no grounds to turn this into an article. -- Whpq (talk) 03:06, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete all. I am typically not in favor of mainspace to projectspace redirects, except for ones that have already existed for years. These are typically deleted via WP:R2, so there is good community consensus for not having these. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:11, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:37, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Review it burn it play it complete it sell it → The Completionist  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Catchphrase(?) not mentioned in target, or anywhere else in searchable text on the internet that I can find, and so confusing to anyone searching for context on the phrase. Rusalkii (talk) 19:21, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

Comment: This is a collection of some catchphrases/review terms used by The Completionist. Humanbeing9 (talk) 23:18, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• delete. implausible formatting, completely out of order, not even complete consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 17:59, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 19:04, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Permanent protected → Wikipedia:Protection policy#Permanent protection  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Cross-namespace redirect, not in use, too generic of a term to justify being Wikipedia-specific. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:33, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

Delete for the nominator's reason. - BᴏᴅʜıHᴀᴙᴩ (talk, contributions) 20:22, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nom. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 23:26, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete as vague --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete apart from this redirect no Google results are for the protection policy, Permanent protection should also probably be deleted but this one is even less likely. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:02, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus per WP:TRAINWRECK. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:45, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

• Triple bakaTriple baka → Kasane Teto#Notable songs  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Teto territory → Kasane Teto#Songs  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Teto PearTeto Pear → Kasane Teto  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

So, I have separate rationales for each of these redirects.

• For the first, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 20#Triple Baka. Should be deleted for the same reasons provided by the nominator (NegativeMP1) in that RfD.
• For the second, the section it links to (Songs) no longer exists. Could it be referring to "Kasane Territory ~ Always Teto’s Turn", which is mentioned at the Character section?
• For the third, it's not mentioned anywhere in the article, and I doubt readers are trying to look for it.

Thanks, 1isall (he/him) (talk | contribs) 11:17, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: For the second one, that is the same song mentioned in the Character section. Kline • talk • contribs 12:18, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete Triple baka as too vague (it can refer to 3 different characters!) and we have precedent; Retarget Teto territory to Kasane Teto#Character, Delete Teto Pear since anyone searching for Teto will already get redirected at "Teto", the Pear meme is unnecessary and extraneous for this circumstance. Drunk Experiter (she/her) (talk) 13:17, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
• Keep based on WP:CHEAP. Yes, some of these are niche memes, but it's useful for someone. guninvalid (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete all. Triple Baka is a song topic that is not mentioned. Teto Territory is a song topic that is not mentioned. Teto Pear is a meme that is not mentioned. Without a mention, people who search for these subjects will not be able to read about it, and will be left looking for material that doesn't exist. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 02:30, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

Update; I see now that "Kasane Territory" is mentioned, not Teto Territory. I still think WP:RETURNTORED applies here because this refers a song that could potentially be an article, but the only mention of "territory" is used as a source for Teto's age, calling it "popular" without any reference. I think this is a disservice as a redirect target because someone who searches for "Teto Territory" already knows who Kasane Teto is, and there's no suitable discussion of the song that they decided to search for instead of the general character name. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 09:09, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

I've now removed the unreferenced mention written from a fan POV. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 09:15, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete Triple baka has 3 characters in it's music video (teto doesnt even say anything in that song, its mainly just miku doing the talking), so delete that one. Delete Teto Pear because it is sadly not mentioned in the article. Keep Teto Territory because it is mentioned in the article and is very popular microTato^{(🗯️) (✍🏻)} 13:01, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

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Keep the redirects from the songs which are popular/valid search results. Weak retarget Teto Pear to Kasane Teto#Reception. PokémonPerson 01:28, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

FYI, neither of the songs are mentioned at the target. The mention of the territory one was removed by Utopes because it was unreferenced and was written from a WP:FANPOV. And there was already consensus to delete Triple Baka. Thanks, 1isall (he/him) (talk | contribs) 16:32, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete Triple per nom per the previous RfD; Delete territory per Utopes and his removed content; Delete Pear per Drunk Experiter. Jay 💬 18:02, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete all per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:32, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:31, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Smokemart → Viva Energy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Similarly to "Giftbox", "Smokemart" is an acquisition that is no longer mentioned at the target. However, it does have a mention on both Peregrine Corporation and OTR (convenience store). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:22, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Any thoughts?
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• delete. both examples are only named in passing, with no guarantee that they even refer to the same chain of cancer stores. redirecting to either would also be surprising, as would keeping. that aside, why in the finger lickin' mcfuck would an oil reseller want a tobacco store chain? yamaha having bikes and keyboards i can understand, they're at least both machines, but this? what's the relation here? that they both get burned and give people the nose ouchies? consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 11:49, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
• delete as vague and unhelpful. I do get a good number of search hits for the Australian retailer but there is also a Smokemart in Indonesia (possibly owned by the same company?) and an awful lot of Smoke marts and Smoke Marts. This is a poor candidate for a wp:SMALLDETAILS primary topic since the retailer does not operate in most English-speaking markets and the name is very nearly a generic term. I agree there is a high likelihood for WP:RSURPRISE for the global audience and even readers seeking the Australian retailer given that it is not discussed. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 18:44, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to OASIS TOSCA#Yorc. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 04:59, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• YorcYorc → York  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A recently created, imprecise typo redirect created by I am RedoStone. No mention of "Yorc" at the target, or any indication that the city of York is referred to with a "c" instead of a "k", over any other topic at York (disambiguation). This term is discussed as a subject, with this spelling, at OASIS TOSCA#Yorc. This is also an airport code listed at List of airports by ICAO code: Y#YO. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:56, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

• Disambiguate with these 2 uses and put a "See also" for York. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:39, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to OASIS TOSCA#Yorc as the only valid target. YORC would be a good redirect for Orchid Beach Airport, if that article existed. - Eureka Lott 21:51, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

  I'm fine with this suggestion as well as deleting. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:20, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

• Retarget to OASIS TOSCA#Yorc. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 16:54, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Retarget to the novel article at Las muertas * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:31, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

• Las MuertasLas Muertas → The Dead Girls  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Just created this redirect ... but now, I'm not sure if it should be "retargeted to Jorge Ibargüengoitia as a {{R from work}}" (1977 novel written by this author) or "keep" (target subject is based on the novel created by the aforementioned author). Thoughts on this? (At the present time, we seem to not have an article for the novel.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:28, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

• The novel should be at Las Muertas. All derivative works should be dabbed. Las Muertas (TV series) on ENWP could go to The Dead Girls. That is the way it is set up on ESWP where both have articles named this way.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:06, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
• Oops, I guess we don't have a novel article yet. Currently the novel content is at Jorge Ibargüengoitia#Novels, so Las Muertas should redirect there until the separate article exists. Put a hatnote on the authors article explaining the novel redirect.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:10, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
• Keep for now. The current target to some extent servers as a natural disambiguation with a redlink to Las Muertas (novel) and a bluelink to Jorge Ibargüengoitia both in the opening sentence. This should probably, until an article is written about the novel, help readers the most. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 13:04, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Struck, !vote changed below. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 20:34, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

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• I started the novel's article. Is this now a job for a dab page? Both book and series share the same name, in both languages. Moscow Mule (talk) 19:58, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

• Disambiguate Thank you for writing that article! I've drafted a DAB below the RfD. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 20:34, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

The DAB should possibly be moved to Las muertas after this RfD closes as both use that capitalization, but that is outside the scope of the RfD itself. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 20:35, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

• Why not move Las muertas (novel) to Las muertas and retarget Las Muertas there? —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 03:08, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

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• User:Myceteae's suggestion sounds good: original Spanish title for the book, translated English title for the TV adaptation, hatnotes between the two if deemed necessary? Moscow Mule (talk) 23:35, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

  I moved Las muertas (novel) to Las muertas Jay 💬 08:41, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

• Nominator follow-up: At this point, I'd say the best path forward is to retarget Las Muertas to Las muertas per WP:ONEOTHER (since the disambiguation page disambiguates only 2 subjects). The reason being is because trying to enforce WP:DIFFCAPS subject differences and/or disambiguation is rather unhelpful and/or irrelevant when transliterating from one language to the words' usage by English speakers. In other words, the titles "Las muertas" and "Las Muertas" should refer to the same subject on the English Wikipedia. (If by chance the status quo changes and the disambiguation page has more subjects listed prior to this discussion being closed, my stance changes to "move Las Muertas to Las Muertas (disambiguation) prior to retarget Las Muertas to Las muertas".) Steel1943 (talk) 23:00, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus per WP:NOQUORUM. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:28, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Michael McGaharnMichael McGaharn → Knuckles the Echidna  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

originally an unsourced, poorly written, factually incorrect stub taken from draftspace, knuckles (& knuckles, featuring knuckles from the knuckles may chuckle series) only seems to be his most notable role by an extremely narrow margin, and i haven't found anything for him beyond whatever this is (which isn't even primarily about him)

i hate that my second favorite knuckles the echidna from k.n.u.c.k.l.e.s. in knuckles the echidna: knuckles' last chuckle & knuckles from knuckles may chuckle 2: knuckle of the year edition voice actor is one of only three without an article, why does reality have to chuckle at my knuckles and my knuckles like this... consarn _{(just believe in knuckles) (won't rely on knuckles)} 22:03, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

• as an aside not related to anything i can spam knuckles jokes about, there seems to be another michael mcgaharn who is... a strangely prolific bank worker of some sort? dude's not notable either, but i found a lot of stuff that at least has his name on it, so chances are he's a big shot. you know, the kind who would rather flex his kn- consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 22:07, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
• Keep, more specifically make it link directly to Knuckles the Echidna#Voice portrayal. I think it's worth keeping, and the only other place on Wikipedia that mentions him is Sonic Adventure#Characters and art, so as far as we're concerned, Knuckles is what he's notable for. Drunk Experiter (she/her) (talk) 22:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

  there's a problem with this: is he actually notable for this? the citations backing it up in the current target are 1 and 3. 1 is behind the voice actors, which is usable for verification but not really for notability, and 3 is an interview from what seems to be a blog that doesn't mention him at all, so all we really have is a list of voice actors and a seemingly unassessed article that only mentions him in passing (this being the one i found). as another aside, check the snapshots from citation 3 as of december 2018, they're really funny, i'd rather chuckle this time

  as for sonic adventure, its citation is actually just the credits of the game, and he's also mentioned in burning rangers, also in passing and only with primary sources consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 22:36, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

  Admittedly, that's not very notable. But it's not like he's got his own article - it's just a redirect. I don't know, deleting the redirect wouldn't be terrible, but I don't think it's entirely necessary. He is still mentioned in the articles after all. Drunk Experiter (she/her) (talk) 13:01, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Bag (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 04:30, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• BAGBAG → Bag  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Per WP:DIFFCAPS, this should be Retargeted to Bag (disambiguation) as there are some entries there which are actually in all caps. ArthananWarcraft (talk) 05:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Speedy retarget per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:02, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:52, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:15, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Moslena Ama Korama Adu → Ghana national badminton team  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No information on subject on redirected article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:56, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nom. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 23:30, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:34, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:15, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Flora Wang → Netherlands national badminton team  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No information on subject on redirected article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:30, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Should she be listed? There is recent coverage indicating she is on the team (I think). But she's not listed on the Team Netherlands website. I guess delete as things stand. The team roster in the article is almost two years old; it should perhaps be removed if keeping it reasonably up to date is not sustainable. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 23:41, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:15, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Daria-Irina Gherasim → Romania national badminton team  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No information on subject on redirected article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:29, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. The player roster in the article is out of date. There's some recentish coverage in Romanian. I have no idea if she is on the team currently but as it stands this redirect is counterproductive. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 23:45, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:35, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:15, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Musa Maliha → Uganda national badminton team  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No information on subject on redirected article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:22, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. The player roster in all these articles is out of date but these redirects were all created a few days ago. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 23:49, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:35, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:14, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

• Taisia Kasianov Kasianova → Peru national badminton team  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No information on subject on redirected article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:18, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Similar issues to the others nominated on the same day. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫‍(talk) 23:49, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:34, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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