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The result of the discussion was delete. Left guide (talk) 22:28, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• Princess Elisabeth Andreevna Kurakina → Kurakin family  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

delete. No such person --Altenmann >talk 19:42, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 00:08, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

• Macrophanerophyte → Tree  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

per previous rfd. still unmentioned, still haven't been able to find usable sources to warrant a mention. should probably have commented on the possibility of soft redirecting to wikt:macrophanerophyte then, but i forgot if i forgot or didn't know that was there consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 17:24, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete. The term is not mentioned at Tree nor at Raunkiær plant life-form#Phanerophytes (which is where PhanerophytePhanerophyte targets). Definitions vary and include tree; various height cutoffs including >30 m, >2 m; and definitions not based on size. And others, and I trust the nom has spent more time searching than I have and hasn't found a consistent or authoritative definition. The term appears to be fairly obscure. "Macrophanerophytes" gets just 354 hits on Google Scholar, compared to 10,400 for "Phanerophytes"; 2,910 for "Nanophanerophytes"; 1,150 for "Microphanerophytes"; 1,020 for "Megaphanerophytes"; and 930 for "Mesophanerophytes". Trying to cobble together a definition or explain its multiple meanings seems WP:UNDUE at any of the targets that have been considered, or anywhere on en-wiki. Sending readers somewhere without a definition is a disservice. Readers will be confused, disappointed, or misled into thinking it is exactly synonymous with the target. This does not meet the criteria for a Wiktionary redirect defined at WP:SOFTSP or Template:Wiktionary redirect. The redirect has zero incoming links from articles, thus it is not commonly wikified. It is not a popular search term, averaging 1–2 pageviews per month since 2015, with recent spikes explained by the month-long RfD listing. The word does not appear in a single Wikipedia article. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

  you finding definitions that have nothing to do with a 30m cutoff point does seem to already throw a wrench into any chance this has of not being a red link, since that implies there's no consistent definition. the ones i found (and could get to load) before and now all seemed to refer to phanerophytes that were either at least 30m tall, with varying upper limits (usually 50). regardless of that, congratulations, you also seem to have been the first person across both discussions to find a mention of the term that also includes an example of a plant that meets the criteria for that definition!! consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 19:34, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

  Most of the usage I found was not defined clearly—or not at all. Either used in passing or in a list of related -phanerophyte classifications where none were described. The 30 meter minimum appeared in multiple places and might well be the most common. I did find copies of Raunkiær’s original publications online but none has searchable text and I didn’t get very far with those. But even if we find his original definition—if this was even one of the classifications he coined—the fact that it is now used only rarely and with inconsistent meanings argues against inclusion. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 22:56, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete, the term is obscure, poorly-defined, and unused, so let's do without it. I have no particular objection to pointing it at the Wiktionary entry but it's barely necessary. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:44, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 17:58, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• Countryhumans → Countryballs  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Countryhumans is not mentioned anywhere in the article, so therefore I recommend deletion. Even despite the fact that I didn't do any research, I kind of think it's notable on its own, so in that case, return to red would apply. DiscoveringMysteries03 (talk) 12:19, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• i found this. do i think it's useful for notability? nah. did i find more? нет. do i think it has a shot at notability in this decade? maybe if it's the tenth fandom to be outed as actually full of predators all along this week, but otherwise, it's unlikely. in short, delete per nom consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 12:31, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

return per above User "Oreocooke" (speak of the sun and it shines) 18:06, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete current target is misleading and can be don't see any other page as possible target - as suggested, redlink is better for a standalone article. Asteramellus (talk) 12:01, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 17:52, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• Infinite (synonyms) → Infinity  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

the pre-blar content was unsourced stuff more fit for wiktionary, and also mostly wrong (i counted, out of 38 synonyms provided, only 17 were varying levels of sort of correct). as is, no such list is found in the target, and this might also be implausible as a disambiguator here. the only other page with it that i could find, which is list of minerals (synonyms), actually contains that list (but isn't a redirect, so eh) consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 12:14, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

as a sort of aside, i don't necessarily think soft redirecting to wiktionary would work, as synonyms applicable in different contexts are torn across multiple thesaurus entries (wikt:thesaurus:infinite, wikt:thesaurus:endless, wikt:thesaurus:eternal, and so on, ad infin- uh, ad nauseam), and the title also doesn't match. this means my initial vote will be deletion, effectively by default consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 12:20, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete, a BLAR that lasted for 5 minutes, not a plausible search term. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:24, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

delete per above esp. deacon vorbis, this doesn't serve much of a purpose User "Oreocooke" (speak of the sun and it shines) 20:41, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NOTDICT. No history worth saving. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:32, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per above. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:15, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:02, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• Unwind the chainsaw → Avenged Sevenfold  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the redirect target or anywhere else on Wikipedia and there's nowhere sensible to redirect it to. The page title was created in 2009 as the only edit ever by 11aseely about the supposed title for an upcoming album which became Nightmare. Even at the time the editor who made the page in to a redirect couldn't find any confirmation of this name and I can't either. There's a song/instrumental by the band that's sometimes known by this title but according to this Reddit thread, it appears to be a fan-created dsong title. I don't know anything about the band myself but it seems that we can safely delete this redirect. Graham87 (talk) 10:44, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

I only just noticed the redirect's bad capitalisation with my screen reader. Graham87 (talk) 11:00, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Delete. Not only is it a fan-created song title, the song in question already had a name-- it's a cover of In the house - In a heartbeat from 28 Days Later (soundtrack). And no, I'm not suggesting we retarget there-- doing so would likely be a huge WP:SURPRISE for any A7X fans that don't yet know the track's true identity, as the 28 Days Later (soundtrack) page doesn't mention A7X anywhere. MAYBE a hatnote would suffice, but I'm not liking the idea. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:31, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of attacks during the Twelve-Day War#Operation True Promise III. Treating this as unopposed given the lack of response. (non-admin closure) J947 ‡ ^edits 02:18, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

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• Operation True Promise ThreeOperation True Promise Three → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Operation Truthful Promise ThreeOperation Truthful Promise Three → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Operation Truthful Promise IIIOperation Truthful Promise III → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Operation Truthful Promise 3Operation Truthful Promise 3 → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Truthful Promise ThreeTruthful Promise Three → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Truthful Promise IIITruthful Promise III → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Truthful Promise 3Truthful Promise 3 → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• True Promise ThreeTrue Promise Three → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• True Promise IIITrue Promise III → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• True Promise 3True Promise 3 → Twelve-Day War  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Retarget to List of attacks during the Twelve-Day War#Operation True Promise III, consistent with Operation True Promise III and several others. LIrala (talk) 07:19, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Retarget all to Twelve-Day War per nomination. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 07:36, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

  They are already targeted at Twelve-Day War. The proposal is requesting a retarget to List of attacks during the Twelve-Day War#Operation True Promise III. Esolo5002 (talk) 13:05, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

  Your comments on the two nominations below have the same issue. Esolo5002 (talk) 13:06, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

  @Achmad Rachmani Please clarify. "to Twelve-Day War" means different from "Retarget all" and "per nomination". So you want keeping or retargeting? Maybe you confused the format of RfD from CfD's one.

  Also, clarify for the others below. LIrala (talk) 16:39, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to 2024 Lebanon war. Treating this as unopposed. (non-admin closure) J947 ‡ ^edits 02:08, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

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• 2024 Israel-Hezbollah war2024 Israel-Hezbollah war → Hezbollah–Israel conflict (2023–present)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• 2024 Israel–Hezbollah war2024 Israel–Hezbollah war → Hezbollah–Israel conflict (2023–present)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Retarget to 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, consistent with 2024 Lebanon War. LIrala (talk) 07:06, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Retarget both to Hezbollah–Israel conflict (2023–present) per nomination. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 07:37, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
• Note: 2024 Lebanon war is the current title of the article recently moved. LIrala (talk) 16:37, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Left guide (talk) 22:30, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• Greece Interstate 27 → Greek National Road 27  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Greece Interstate 33 → Greek National Road 33  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Greece Interstate 89 → Greek National Road 89  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Proposing to delete because there are no interstates in Greece, and interstates are exclusive to the United States: in Greece, there are motorways (Ax), national roads (EOx) and provincial roads (EPx). This nomination rationale has been copied from WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 March 21#Greece "Interstates" where interstates 70 to 91 were deleted, and WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 April 7#Greece Interstate 37 where interstates 37 to 48 were deleted. Jay 💬 06:45, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:15, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

• Avon walk for breast cancer → Avon Products  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Avon Walk for Breast Cancer → Avon Products  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not an alternative name; not discussed at the target. Vanamonde93 (talk) 04:58, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Also Avon Walk for Breast Cancer. Vanamonde93 (talk) 04:59, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

  @Vanamonde93 you can nominate multiple redirects individually and then merge the noms like i just did, or use massxfd to nom multiple at once consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 16:33, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 05:46, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• Peroidic table → Periodic table  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 April 8 § Peroidic table of elements, this obstructs internal search. Unfortunately I don't believe adding {{R from misspelling}} to this redirect would prevent the search engine from having this annoying behaviour. J947 ‡ ^edits 03:33, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete per nom and related discussion. This obstructs searches for peroidic. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 19:08, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:13, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Ronald Read without prejudice against creating a new disambiguation page at this title. (non-admin closure) J947 ‡ ^edits 06:19, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• Ronald ReedRonald Reed → Gig Young  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:58, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

• Retarget to Ronnie Reed who is the only person with this name who has an article, or to the disambiguation at Ronald Read. There are a few definitely non-notable people with this name who get passing mentions (including local politicians in the UK and New Zealand), and an Iowa Hawkeyes football captain who is mentioned at List of Iowa Hawkeyes football honorees#All-conference selections for 1918. The footballer might be notable, I can't find anything on Google clearly proving that but I strongly suspect any sources are mostly going to be offline ones, and obviously cannot prove they even exist so I don't think WP:RETURNTORED applies here. I don't object to disambiguation, but I'm not sure any of the other people pass WP:DABMENTION. I'll add a see also to Ronnie Reed at the dab page, if we retarget to the article a hatnote to the dab page should be added. Thryduulf (talk) 10:46, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Actually, I've just seen that Ron Reed (who didn't appear in my search results) is also a Ronald so retagetting to the existing dab page or creating a separate dab page is better. Thryduulf (talk) 10:51, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
  • According to this reference, Oscar-winning actor Gig Young had used the stage name "Ronald Reed" early in his career. However, since his use of this name appears to be rare, obscure and not even mentioned in his entry, I would not oppose Ronald Reed becoming a redirect to Ron Reed, Ronnie Reed, the Ronald Read disambiguation page or to any other target preferred by consensus. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:41, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Specious reasoning – a new article created 1 March 2023 – as with redirects SpeciousSpecious and SpeciouslySpeciously. wbm1058 (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

• SpeciousnessSpeciousness → wiktionary:speciousness  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Per WP:SSRT. Not linked to anywhere from the mainspace, is not a common word, and has never been deleted and then recreated. It is also polluting WP:DUSTY. — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:52, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

• WP:DUSTY should be changed to ignore soft redirects like it does disambiguation pages. J947 ‡ ^edits 00:00, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

  I don't disagree, however this is non-trivial as we would need to look at the page content, which can't be queried for using SQL. Going by categories is another option, but the list to exclude would be quite long and need ongoing maintenance, and it'd likely slow down the bot as well.

  Regardless of the WP:DUSTY problem, I don't think Speciousness belongs on Wikipedia. Its purpose is also contingent on the existence of the article on the sister project, which isn't guaranteed (generally speaking).

  What would be more ideal I think is for MediaWiki to look for the term on sister projects and report it automatically on MediaWiki:Noarticletext. — MusikAnimal ^talk 00:17, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

  Agreed. This has been raised before at Wikipedia talk:Database reports/Forgotten articles and more recently by me at Wikipedia talk:Database reports, where I hoped it would have more visibility but there has been no response after a few weeks. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 18:56, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete per nom and guidance at SSRT/WP:SOFTSP. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 18:53, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

• Retarget to Specious. This should happen for all soft redirects, if they have derived words and their definition in the Wiktionary describes it as something of another word, turn them into hard redirects. Skemous (talk) 04:46, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. NerdyEpiscopalian (talk) 18:03, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
• Retarget to specious reasoning Imakesapage (talk) 23:56, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
• Retarget to specious reasoning, as it is a clearly related word which specious also redirects to. Deleting this redirect would only inconvenience readers searching up the term and editors trying to create wikilinks. 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 12:22, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. I've added a hatnote pointing to Kubota (surname). (non-admin closure) J947 ‡ ^edits 06:15, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• Dr. KubotaDr. Kubota → Ordyne  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not a plausible search term. There are numerous people with the surname Kubota who could be confused with a character hardly anyone knows about, not even the players of the game would remember him anyway. Go D. Usopp (talk) 13:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

• Keep. I haven't played the game, but he's described as the main antagonist so it seems like a bizarre statement that "not even players of the game would remember him anyway". As for the other people with the surname, a hatnote to Kubota (surname) can resolve that issue. I think if someone is searching "Dr. Kubota" they'd be looking for the character over someone like Tomio Kubota, who had a Ph.D. but didn't seem to use the title? -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:25, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

I'm fine with retargeting directly to the surname page as well. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:08, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

• Retarget to Kubota (surname) (per nom? It's not clear from the nomination what the requested outcome is). There are several other fictional "Dr Kubota"s - see, for example Eric Pierpoint, Swing Girls, and Denji Sentai Megaranger - none of whom, along with this character, have an obvious claim to be the primary referent of the term. Tevildo (talk) 22:25, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

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Weak Keep. I'm convinced by Tavix's argument. Other info: No mainspace articles link to this, so we could probably just trash it if we wanted. From the wikipedia search function I have found that there are multiple fictional characters primarily known as "Dr. Kubota" (I see Tevildo has also mentioned this). However, according to those pages, Dr. Kubota is more prominently featured in Ordyne than the others are featured in their works. Dingolover6969 (talk) 10:10, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Fuck. (non-admin closure) J947 ‡ ^edits 06:13, 22 April 2026 (UTC)

• FvckFvck → Satiric misspelling  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

With the exception of a hatnote, this isn't mentioned at the target. This had a wrecked train of an RFD back in 2010, and since then has had its target edit warred over. It's time to find a stronger consensus for this. Chess enjoyer (talk) 01:32, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

• Retarget to Fuck. I think this is a better article to retarget from. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:54, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
• tentatively retarget to fuck, partially because i couldn't find much evidence of this being used as an instance of satirical censorship outside of uncommon variations of the trvth nvke meme, and this would be the best target regardless. if i had my way, people would just have to suck it up and write the fuck word, but life isn't always so kind... consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 12:55, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
• Retarget to Fuck. We recently kept FxxkFxxk and this variant is even more straightforward. I'm also not convinced this is most often used or best explained as an example of Satiric misspelling. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
• retarget per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:17, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Retarget per above. It's a common censorship, at least online, and some people might genuinely think that is how it is spelled, etc. Always retarget to Fuck, you never go wrong. 🫀 Crash // Organhaver ( it / he | talk to me, maybe? ) 21:33, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

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