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The result of the discussion was delete. Left guide (talk) 00:36, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

• Postprandial hyperthermia → Prandial  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. This is now a double redirect, as prandialprandial was redirected to Meal following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prandial. This concept is not defined on en-wiki. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Left guide (talk) 00:37, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

• Postprandium → Prandial  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. This is now a double redirect, as prandialprandial was redirected to meal following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prandial. The word "postprandium" does not appear anywhere on Wikipedia, is not linked in any articles, and does not have an Wiktionary entry. The word is fairly obscure. Merriam-Webster Online and Dictionary.com also do not define it. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 22:36, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 05:30, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

• EÉD → Hellenic Armed Forces  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I think the accent mark makes this an WP:R#D8. The Greek acronym is ΕΕΔ because accent marks are omitted in all caps text. Presumably in English, one would either use an initialism of the English name, so HAF (except that one is taken), or romanise the Greek acronym and use EED without the accent. Romanising the Greek acronyms is common practice for political parties and political groups in general but not for much else as far as I know so even EED without the accent would have been a D8 if it wasn't a dab page (which at the moment does not have an entry for the Hellenic Armed Forces anyway). Warudo (talk) 21:21, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete. Most of what the nominator writes is speculation or irrelevant, but regardless of that I cannot find any evidence that this acronym is used for the current target - or for anything else for that matter. Most google results are OCR errors and similar, the few that aren't are all lowercase (although even "verbatim" Google is case insensitive) and seem to be either citations in French-language works or related somehow to Somali (google translate thinks "EÉD" is Hungarian for "EED", but I haven't found any evidence to back that up). The only exception to the above I found was an instance of "neéded" that as far as I can tell is just a very odd typo for the English word "needed", I forget the context but it was unrelated to Greece. Thryduulf (talk) 01:26, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Kingsmasher678 (talk) 21:38, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

• Michael (upcoming film)Michael (upcoming film) → Michael (2026 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There's quite a few films named "Michael", and likely to be quite a few more, which could be considered upcoming at any given time. In general redirects disambiguated as "upcoming film" should be deleted, as they are potentially WP:COSTLY. silviaASH (inquire within) 17:36, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

• Keep for now per WP:UFILM. It was just released in the US and has a minimum 30-day grace period. After that, it can be reexamined. If there's any other specific upcoming films with the same name, this can be retargeted, but you haven't pointed out any. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 18:37, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

  I wasn't aware of that guideline, but I have to say I disagree with it and think it should be overturned or changed in some way. Wikipedia article titles should avoid time-sensitive terms like "upcoming", because they create technical debt; a whole bunch of people both on and off wiki link to one article, suddenly titles change because the status of things change, and they're all linking to a different article. "Untitled XXXX" should only be used with further qualifiers to more precisely disambiguate so as to avoid this technical debt, with terms referring to more immovable traits like topic or number in a series or whatever else. I realize this discussion is not the place to litigate this guideline but I can't help but observe how obviously problematic it is, so I'm probably going to raise the issue on the appropriate discussion page when I have the time to do so. silviaASH (inquire within) 23:09, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

  This has been a hot topic. There was a fairly recent, unresolved RFC at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (films)#RfC: Proposed updates to WP:UFILM regarding pageviews. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 23:20, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Progress flag. (non-admin closure) Kingsmasher678 (talk) 21:39, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

• Black and brown trans flagBlack and brown trans flag → Rainbow flag (LGBTQ)#Progress Pride Flag  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Black and brown trans intersex flagBlack and brown trans intersex flag → Rainbow flag (LGBTQ)#Variations  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Keep or retarget to Progress flag/refine to a section there? Skemous (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

Retarget for sure. Tessaract2 (hello) 22:42, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:49, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

• Gold Derby Music Awards → Penske Media Corporation#Other properties  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Gold Derby Music Award → Penske Media Corporation#Other properties  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

GoldDerby.com is an entertainment news forum that gives out fan-voted awards for film and music. The film awards are mentioned in the target article, as they have received a bare minimum of coverage in outside sources, while the music awards are not mentioned in the article and have no coverage in outside sources. The various Gold Derby properties have been trimmed and AfD'd over and over to remove spam/promotion, and this redirect causes people to re-add the music awards to various articles. Alyo (chat·edits) 15:06, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

• Also bundle the singular Gold Derby Music Award, or Delete and G6 the singular. Jay 💬 13:06, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:57, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

• StandWithUkraine → Protests against the Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The only mention on the page is in a citation, so this is not necessarily a particularly helpful place to send readers. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 14:50, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

• Delete; this appears to be CamelCase and this particular type of redirect has no longer needed to be created for a while now. 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 20:03, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
• It's literally camelcase, yes, but it's not meant to stand for Stand With Ukraine, but #StandWithUkraine, the hashtag, and we do have {{R from hashtag}}. It looks like some of them point to a corresponding cause even without mention of the hashtag per se, e.g., Trump2024Trump2024 → Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign, and note that this does run into the technical restriction regarding # in titles. The current target looks acceptable to me, though I don't feel strongly enough to register an outright keep vote. --BDD (talk) 20:58, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
• Weak keep Stand with Ukraine exists as a redirect to the same target and should probably be bundled with this one, and (unless they are deleted) one marked as a {{R avoided double redirect}} of the other. There are lots of mentions of the exact phrase in articles (some prose, some reference titles) but none of them are both sufficient to anchor a redirect and useful as a target (e.g. picking just one of the articles about a leader of Japan, Finland and the UK saying their country will stand with Ukraine would be arbitrary and inappropriate, especially as in the UK's case both Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer said the same thing). The search results make me surprised we don't have at least some content about the phrase, and the current target is probably the article most suitable for that. Without a mention the situation is not ideal but not overly bad either. Nobody is going to be WP:ASTONISHED to arrive at the target article, but will they will find what they are looking for? My gut feeling is that some will and some won't. The large number of search results, with some mentions in prose that the current target doesn't have, suggests that those who are being helped by the current redirects won't (reliably) be by search results. Overall I think I land at a weak keep, but adding a mention in the prose at the target would be best. Thryduulf (talk) 17:55, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

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Comment - it is mentioned at Ukrainian information war during Russian invasion of Ukraine#Advertising and PR campaigns, which could also be a valid target for this redirect. However, Protests against the Russo-Ukrainian war (2022–present) could still be expanded to cover general online reactions as well (which would be a good place to mention that hashtag) 🔥HotM̶̰̓e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 13:33, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

or it could be mentioned in Non-government reactions to the Russian invasion of Ukraine#Social media 🔥HotM̶̰̓e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 13:37, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

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• Delete unless suitable content is added somewhere. This is likely notable enough for succinct coverage somewhere, though probably not a standalone article, so WP:RETURNTORED sort of applies. As it stands, several plausible targets have been suggested but none contain a general overview of the hashtag/movement. This redirect has no substantive edit history so it can safely be deleted and re-created if and when a suitable target is developed. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 20:03, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per Myceteae because of no single suitable target. Stand with Ukraine can be a separate nomination, unlike this camelcase title which is more online or hashtag-based. Jay 💬 12:47, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
• Retarget to Non-government reactions to the Russian invasion of Ukraine where multiple variantions of this are presented in the actual text. Respublik (talk) 23:03, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

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The section Non-government reactions to the Russian invasion of Ukraine#Social media was previously suggested and rejected by subsequent participants here. Two variations of this appear it the article body, each used only once. The CamelCase hashtag "#StandWithUkraine" appears once in Non-government reactions to the Russian invasion of Ukraine#Video games where it is wikilinked and not otherwise defined or described. This supports deletion per WP:RETURNTORED. The phrase "stand with Ukraine" appears in a sentence at Non-government reactions to the Russian invasion of Ukraine#North America (emphasis added): House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy criticized the invasion as "reckless and evil", and vowing that the US will stand with Ukraine against attempts to "rewrite history" and "upend the balance of power in Europe". These do show up in several references, which could provide fodder for a coherent description of StandWithUkraine and Stand with Ukraine somewhere. I did consider this target as part of my assessment, and my deletion rationale remains the same. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 17:11, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

No change in my stance as well. Jay 💬 17:41, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

Why delete this and keep stand with Ukraine? Skemous (talk) 19:39, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

I would delete both. This late in the discussion, I would wait until this closes and nominate Stand with Ukraine separately, unless enough people chime in that a closer is comfortable that there is consensus to delete both based on this discussion. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 23:28, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Jõesse with Deacon Vorbis's hatnote. (non-admin closure) J947 ‡ ^edits 23:57, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

• JoesseJoesse → Josse  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect currently targets the disambiguation page Josse. The disambiguation page mentions a couple entries containing "Jösse", but it currently doesn't include the village Jõesse in Estonia. The current setup is almost certainly not ideal as someone searching for the village will likely search "Joesse". I know that ö=oe in some languages but not all of them. I believe it is in Swedish but not Estonian. I have three ideas, but I'm not sure which option is best:

1. Retarget Joesse to Jõesse and add a hatnote saying:
   For other uses, see Josse.
2. Disambiguate Joesse to include Jõesse, Jösse Hundred, and Jösse Car, with a see also link to Josse (disambiguation).
3. Keep and add Jõesse to the disambiguation page; whether the village should be in the see also section or not would be a separate minor issue; for the purposes of this discussion, option 3A represents "Keep and add to main disambiguation page Josse" while option 3B represents "Keep and add to see also section of Josse"

Which option is the best? Mathguy2718 (talk) 02:19, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

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• Option 1, since the other two matches on the dab page are borderline PTMs. A slightly custom hatnote might work though: "Joesse redirects here. For other diacritic variants, see Josse" or something. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:50, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
• Prefer Option 1. This is most straightforward and I agree with Deacon Vorbis. I might reword the hatnote but these subtleties can be worked out later. Adding Jõesse to the dab page as a 'See also' would be my distant second choice (Option 3). —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 17:24, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
• Strong retarget per 1. Respublik (talk) 00:28, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:48, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

• Leonard Lief Library → Lehman College  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Target mentions no library; a short mention exists at Leonard Lief. 1234qwer1234qwer4 08:46, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

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• Delete as we don't have information about the library. The one line mention at his page just says the library was named after him. Jay 💬 16:09, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Left guide (talk) 00:38, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

• Félix de Givry → Arco (film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Has now directed a movie, after writing the one to which it currently redirects. WP:RETURNTORED. Nardog (talk) 10:18, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. He is credited in multiple works on enwiki. Jay 💬 16:17, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 16:22, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

• Baculentulus numatai → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus nyinabitabuensis → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus ogawai → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus oginoi → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus pseudonitidus → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus sakayorii → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus samchonri → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus seychellensis → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus taipeiensis → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus tienmushanensis → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus tosanus → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus tuxeni → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus umesaoi → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus weinerae → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus yodai → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Baculentulus yunnanensis → Baculentulus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

These are redirects from a species to its genus. The notability guideline for species says that [a]ll eukaryotic species that are accepted by taxonomists are presumed notable. Therefore, all of these should all be deleted to return them to red. Chess enjoyer (talk) 04:04, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Plantdrew (talk) 05:02, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:38, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. I agree that WP:RETURNTORED applies per WP:NSPECIES. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 17:12, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:16, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

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