Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 August 26

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 26, 2026.

Murta or Chilean guava

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was delete. There was a consensus to delete, and several !voters agreed that the "or" formulation is improbable. Epicgenius (talk) 14:10, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Murta or Chilean guava → Ugni molinae (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This redirect combines two common names that Ugni molinae is known by, "murta" and "Chilean guava". Nobody refers to the plant as "Murta or Chilean guava" and I highly doubt anybody would ever search this. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 22:54, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Speedy delete, G6, moved about a half hour after creation over 20 years ago. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 00:17, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete: "or" formulations are not appropriate. - In solidarity, UtherSRG (talk) 14:56, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep Unambiguous and both names are mentioned in the article. My web searches turn up several hits for this exact phrase, and this redirect seems particularly useful since the article title is the scientific, rather than the vernacular, name. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:51, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Many many things go by multiple names. Having redirects of the form "X or Y" (in whatever combination(s) of X, Y, Z, ... are possible) for any of them is inappropriate unless it's some standard way of referring to it. This is not one of those cases, and it's implausible that anyone would search for this. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 21:42, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
N.b., Chilean guavaChilean guava already redirects to Ugni molinae. Murta is a disambiguation page, and Murta (plant) is also ambiguous, though something like Murta (fruit) could also redirect to Ugni molinae. --BDD (talk) 19:28, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete per Uther and Deacon. Who would search for this expecting it to be the article title? Mx User (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:02, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:57, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Prickly Pear Software

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Prickly Pear Software

Bryan Kohberger (Criminal)

The result of the discussion was no consensus. The target article was also merged halfway through, and the lowercase variant undeleted, making evaluating consensus difficult. No prejudice to a renomination in a month or so when everything's stabilized. Rusalkii (talk) 21:54, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Bryan Kohberger (Criminal)Bryan Kohberger (Criminal) → Bryan Kohberger (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Speedy deleted nominated was rejected. There were concerns raised that time was prejudicial at the AFD nom (not by me). Additionally we don't need a dab title since there is only one article on a person named Bryan Kohberger. 4meter4 (talk) 17:22, 7 August 2026 (UTC)

Note that there was also Bryan Kohberger (criminal) which was speedy deleted by Kj cheetham. So we literally have admins disagreeing over speedy implementation.4meter4 (talk) 18:03, 7 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep and restore Bryan Kohberger (criminal). It's not an attack to refer to someone who has been convicted of crimes as a 'criminal'. For example, here's the NYT referring to him as one. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:06, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
@Tavix: Why? What is the purpose of creating a disambiguated title when there are no other people with this name with articles? I mean fundamentally we don't create dab pages until we need to disambiguate. There is only one article about a Bryan Kohberger. This fails WP:D2D. The only reason to disambiguate at the present time is to shame the subject as its not differentiating between people of the same name. 4meter4 (talk) 18:17, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
They're simply {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}s, and unnecessary isn't a good reason to delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:21, 7 August 2026 (UTC)

Um... I feel like this some sort of dystopian thread. How exactly is violating WP:Disambiguation policy acceptable? We shouldn't be creating dab pages willy nilly.4meter4 (talk) 21:06, 7 August 2026 (UTC)

This is a redirect, not a disambiguation page. What specifically is being "violated"?-- Tavix ^(talk) 23:43, 7 August 2026 (UTC)

So let me get this straight. Someone erroneously creates a disambiguated title rather than creating the page at Bryan Kohberger. It properly gets moved to Bryan Kohberger, and we are now going to defend a redirect? This is ridiculous. We don't need a redirect at this name; particularly when editors at a pertinent AFD and an admin have also accused it of being inflamatory/attack page. There's no practical reason to have a redirect, and there are good reasons not to have one under this name. Why defend a mistake? why have a redirect at this title? It has no practical use, and its raised objections.4meter4 (talk) 01:29, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

I don't see evidence that it was created erroneously and it's definitely not an attack page. It sounds like this is also a {{R from move}}, which is another reason to keep redirects as they help people who are looking for an article in its former location to find the current location. The most noteworthy example would be at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bryan Kohberger (Criminal), where this redirect is being employed there to direct editors to the current article's location. -- Tavix ^(talk) 02:57, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

The Bryan Kohberger page was page protected to prevent article creation, so it was created to get around a page protection. I would say trying to circumvent a page block is a type of error.4meter4 (talk) 14:08, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep and restore per Tavix. Thryduulf (talk) 19:54, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete. This page title is improper and is unlikely to be one users search for when looking for information about the case or its perpetrator. It only exists as a redirect because the page was created here a few days/weeks ago rather than at Bryan Kohberger (this links to that page's logs), where it wouldn't have been possible at that time because it was protected from article creations. --Pinchme123 (talk) 01:54, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep and restore per Tavix. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:52, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
Comment Having reviewed the G10 criteria again, I believe I made a mistake in deleting Bryan Kohberger (criminal) and have undone that action and declined the CSD. Specifically due to Redirects from plausible search terms are not eligible under this criterion. from WP:G10. I am making no comment if it should be deleted on other grounds, only that it doesn't meet CSD G10. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:30, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete Move completed, page is simply no longer needed as a redirect and has no previous link-out history to preserve. Nathannah • 📮 16:33, 11 August 2026 (UTC)
Comment The target page has now been deleted with its content to be merged into 2022 Idaho student murders. I see zero reason why this redirect should still exist. To reiterate my !vote above, it has no link-out history (the only link I can think of is to the merge discussion), it's longer to type than simply the guy's name so searching for it is unlikely, it wouldn't have been created in the first place given the page protections that were in place for Bryan Kohberger, and with the capital Criminal, it's not even a correctly-titled disambiguation. --Pinchme123 (talk) 05:51, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

The target page has not been deleted, the history is still intact. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:28, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

You're correct, it was blanked and then turned into its own redirect. But that doesn't mean this redirect (which now would be a double-redirect) should remain. What little history of this page that there is is of no value. --Pinchme123 (talk) 15:41, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

A simple note in the AfD about the RfD fate will resolve this artificial conflict; it's the only real link outstanding. Nathannah • 📮 20:34, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep because Redirects are cheap and there is an existing deletion discussion that references this redirect. Unlike the redirect Bryan Kohberger (criminal), which is a plausible search term, this redirect is in active use on existing talk pages and referenced by the deletion discussion page as the article was moved to Bryan Kohberger before it was merged with the 2022 Idaho student murders article. both pages reference the deletion discussion which references this redirect, so deleting it will break the integrity of the deletion discussion as it will imply the article was deleted, when it wasn't. The redirect is also needed for attribution traceability reasons. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 05:21, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

It's referenced as point of discussion to delete it. This is a ridiculous Catch-22 circular argument.4meter4 (talk) 05:35, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete it was only at this title for a few days and give Bryan Kohberger (criminal) exists there is no need to keep this one per WP:RDAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:13, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Bryan Kohberger has been merged into 2022 Idaho student murders.
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Delete as unnecessary and unlikely disambig. Shocksingularity (talk) 22:51, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Sydney bus route 560

The result of the discussion was retarget to Sydney metropolitan bus service contracts#Region 14. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 05:52, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Sydney bus route 560Sydney bus route 560 → Transdev NSW (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention of this bus route at the target page. Rosbif73 (talk) 15:01, 7 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete. We have a buses in Sydney article, but it isn't explicitly mentioned there. The "Other routes" section tells you that runs in the north west of the city, but I don't think that's enough to anchor a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 16:30, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
Comment: Just as a note, this is the current timetable () for this route, currently operated by CDC NSW. It is briefly mentioned in a collapsed table at Sydney metropolitan bus service contracts#Region 14, which has details of its operation under contract to various operators over the years. Fork99 (talk) 23:52, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
Also note that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sydney bus route 52 was deleted, despite a mention at Sydney metropolitan bus service contracts#Region 7. This article doesn't seem to keep historic route number information (seemingly only current routes) so if this route was ever renumbered, retired or similar in the future, the article might no longer mention it. Fork99 (talk) 00:11, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete. No mention of this specific bus route on the page.4meter4 (talk) 15:17, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
There is a sourced mention at the start (Gordon railway station), and stop (West Pymble) stations, however the proper target would be Sydney metropolitan bus service contracts § Region 14 per Fork99. I did not understand the Route 52 comment though, as that was an AfD, not an RfD. Jay 04:51, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
An alternative to deletion for Sydney bus route 52 could have been a redirect to Sydney metropolitan bus service contracts#Region 7. Fork99 (talk) 05:54, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
Oh ok, got it. Right, it could have been an AtD, but no one suggested it in that discussion. Jay 06:04, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
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Retarget to Sydney metropolitan bus service contracts#Region 14 per Jay and Fork99. Shocksingularity (talk) 22:53, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Alien Megastructure

The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:39, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Alien Megastructure → Tabby's Star (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Alien megastructures → Tabby's Star (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Surely there's a better target for this. I don't see anything more specific than megastructure, should it point there? Maybe Astronomical engineering or Technosignature? SevenSpheres (talk) 23:10, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

~~retarget to florida~~ delete as too vague to be of use. neither target discusses alien megastructures in enough detail to warrant either redirect. research of my own didn't net enough stuff to suggest notability for the concept either, with only vague mentions and one article specifically ruling this possibility out for the dimming of a star consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 13:12, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
you know, i completely forgot that the term "alien" is also vague here... whoops? consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 11:02, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Comment: noting Technosignature has some discussion of the topic also. SevenSpheres (talk) 14:36, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

The problem seems to be that the topic is diffused across multiple articles, which should probably all be merged. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 19:17, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

How about Megastructure pending a merge to Megascale engineering? –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 19:18, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Merge proposal now at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Megastructure. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 19:24, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to Megastructure or wherever that content ends up merged (the discussion is currently clearly favouring such a merge but there isn't a clear consensus about which title the subsequent article should live at.). Thryduulf (talk) 14:00, 3 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
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Delete Per Consarn. Alien megastructure doesn't actually exist, even though it would be too vague if it did (potentially pointing to either megastructure or technosignature.) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:57, 4 August 2026 (UTC)
Note Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Megastructure closed with a consensus to merge Astronomical engineering and Megascale engineering to Megastructure, although this has not been implemented yet. Thryduulf (talk) 12:27, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Astronomical engineering and Megascale engineering have been merged in to Megastructure as per the AfD.
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Delete, as a redirect would hinder search. There isn't really any good target for this. Tabby's Star is just one star that could potentially have an alien megastructure. Shocksingularity (talk) 22:54, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Dynaset

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Dynaset

Ukrainian invasion

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Ukrainian invasion

Corkie

The result of the discussion was retarget to Corky. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 05:50, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

CorkieCorkie → Dog crossbreed (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Dog crossbreed not mentioned at target nor at the List of dog crossbreeds. It appears to be a different spelling of Corky (one person with this spelling is listed there), and is also listed at the Glossary of Australian rules football, as well as being a character at Elliot the Littlest Reindeer. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 18:40, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to Corkie (and bold the -ie spelling in the lead). Any terms we have content about not listed there can be added. Thryduulf (talk) 12:43, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
@Thryduulf: Retarget the redirect to itself? Steel1943 (talk) 07:23, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
@Steel1943 I meant retarget to Corky. Thryduulf (talk) 10:26, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

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Retarget to Corky as a plausible spelling variant --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:08, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Teleoportation

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 05:34, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Teleoportation → Teleoperation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete as also possible misspelling of teleportation. Thepharoah17 (talk) 16:32, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete per WP:XY, ambiguous misspelling. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 22:03, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
Comment/Question: This is certainly an ambiguous misspelling and my first instinct was to delete. Teleportation is the more popular article and the more common word so if anything the misspelling seems more likely to refer to that. Per the history, it looks like the creator did make this typo/misspelling for Teleoperation. Several minutes later the creator made a seemingly identical edit to the correctly spelled title, seemingly realizing their mistake. Within a few weeks another editor blanked and redirected this to the correct title. Is this speedy eligible as a page that was obviously created in error? Or does it need to be preserved for attribution? I don't see that the history is worth saving unless there is a strong need to.—Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 18:43, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

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delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 10:48, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Penelope Clearwater

The result of the discussion was delete. Epicgenius (talk) 14:11, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Penelope Clearwater → List of Harry Potter characters#Penelope Clearwater (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No such section, and no information about this character at the target. There is mention in multiple other articles, although I couldn't find a single suitable one for retargeting. The Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (film) has a two-word description, but the same is not available at the Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets book. It would be odd to target the film over the book. Delete to favour search results. The page has some history though. Jay 10:49, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (film). If the character currently appears there, but not at the article of the book, a search result will not provide more than a hit of the film anyway. So the redirect seems easier. The target can be changed again if the situation changes. Daranios (talk) 15:13, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

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Comment Information about minor characters was removed from the target article in this edit, based on this conversation.--Srleffler (talk) 04:01, 22 July 2026 (UTC)
Delete per nom. I'm surprised the mention at the film article has stuck around, given the obscurity of the character and her actress apparently being non-notable. --BDD (talk) 21:08, 11 August 2026 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. Katiedevi (talk) 18:52, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 10:48, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Eastern Bays

The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on no significant discussion, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as a soft deletion. Editors can request the redirect's undeletion for any reason. Epicgenius (talk) 14:11, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Eastern Bays → Eastbourne, New Zealand (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The target mentions the term, but in a way that suggests Eastern Bays is not Eastbourne. There is the Eastern Bays ward of Auckland City Council, Eastern Bays Courier, and Eastern Bay. It also appears to be a term used to describe a part of Wellington. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:44, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

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Waterloo West

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Waterloo West

Avalon East

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Avalon East

Newlands North

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Newlands North

Newlands South

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Newlands South

Ancellotti

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Ancellotti

American Armada

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#American Armada

Free as in bird

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Free as in bird

Caterpillar Crane

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Caterpillar Crane

Organic state theory

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Organic state theory

Ha Yuanzheng

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Ha Yuanzheng

Sabina Altynbekova

The result of the discussion was retarget to 2018 VTV9 – Binh Dien International Women's Volleyball Cup#Awards. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 05:57, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Sabina Altynbekova → Kazakhstan women's national volleyball team#2014 Junior Asian Championships (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No longer mentioned at the target, nor should she be. There are a few trivial mentions in other articles but none seem obviously worth retargetting to; delete to let search take over. Rusalkii (talk) 22:06, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget - Retarget to 2018 VTV9 – Binh Dien International Women's Volleyball Cup#Awards. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Te Henga Marae

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Te Henga Marae

Ōruawharo

The result of the discussion was retarget to Ōruawharo River. I will add the requested hatnote pointing towards Oruawharo Homestead shortly after this is closed. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 18:49, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

ŌruawharoŌruawharo → Wellsford (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
OruawharoOruawharo → Oruawharo Homestead (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Oruawharo is a locality separate to Wellsford. There is no article on it but there is the Oruawharo Homestead and Oruawharo River

Perhaps a DAB is most appropriate? Traumnovelle (talk) 21:40, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

I suggest redirecting both to Ōruawharo River and placing a Template:Redirect hatnote there to point to Oruawharo Homestead. Nurg (talk) 09:52, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Redirect both of them to Ōruawharo River while placing a hatnote to Oruawharo Homestead as per Nurg's sound suggestion above. Cavarrone 05:59, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Haranui

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Generation AI

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 5#Generation AI

MES Kuttippuram School

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#MES Kuttippuram School

Taco Hell

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 5#Taco Hell

Medasin

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Medasin

Bush Road

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Bush Road

MOS:REF

The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout#Notes and references. A hatnote at the new target references the previous target in the event of confusion or old links. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 18:43, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

MOS:REFMOS:REF → Wikipedia:Citing sources (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This is a MOS shortcut that doesn't point into the MOS (Manual of Style). That seems incorrect. There's even an edit notice on the page:

This is a page in the MOS namespace, which should only be used for shortcuts to the manual of style.

It was changed earlier this month then changed back.

I propose retargeting to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout#Notes and references, but I'm not sure what to do about existing links to MOS:REF.

In the meantime, I'll create MOS:REFSMOS:REFS as a workaround to point into the Layout page. This can be used if this proposal falls through.

— W.andrea (talk) 18:40, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Obviously support since I made the original edit, but. I was a bit wary since it is a very long standing redirect, but only about 50 pages link to it (at least when I made the edit originally) so I figured the change was worth it. pattersonuwu ^njz (talk) 19:04, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

I agree with the retargeting suggestion, on the condition that existing links are changed to preserve the older target (unless the context is compatible with the new target). Waldyrious (talk) 21:24, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Could probably be done automatically right? pattersonuwu ^njz (talk) 09:19, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

SPT Bus Route 130

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 5#SPT Bus Route 130

SPT Bus Route 65

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 5#SPT Bus Route 65

Lake America

The result of the discussion was no consensus. There is a clear consensus not to delete. Commenters are split between keeping the current target, optionally with a refinement to the name section, and several redirect options, of which the two leading candidates are Lake Ontario naming dispute and American expansionism under Donald Trump. It was difficult to evaluate a clear consensus between these three options as the situation was changing rapidly, both in the real world and onwiki (Lake Ontario naming dispute was only created partway through this discussion, and had an active AfD for most of it). In a month or so, once the situation stabilizes, this can be renominated and we can have a clearer discussion. Rusalkii (talk) 22:24, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

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Lake AmericaLake America → Lake Ontario (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete. Not in article. Offensive. Novel (Trumpian tweet/brainfart. ~2026-46395-90 (talk) 17:50, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Comment: I notified the creator. BTW, it seems like most of what they do on Wikipedia is create redirects, often tenuous ones. — W.andrea (talk) 21:33, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

death: this doesn't even make any sense User "Oreocooke" (speak of the sun and it shines) 22:27, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete as too vague and unlikely to remain in memory. Shocksingularity (talk) 23:00, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete as similar to the "Gulf of America" nonsense, this is likely going to die as well, although "Gulf of America" did gain significant traction and several news outlets were forced to use the name. haruka amaranth 23:40, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep as Trump is now far more serious in renaming the lake, and that has been reflected via an executive order. haruka amaranth 07:23, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete at least for now as this is just a tweet per WP:NOTTRUMP. If this became like the Gulf of America thingy, then I think it is good to have a redirect.Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 02:42, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada. he officially signed it. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 00:01, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
I'd recommend 2025–2026 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico as this agrees with sources. Travelmite (talk) 02:01, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Support, while the US name change may prove to be transient, it should be recorded in an encyclopedia as a lasting record of Trumps character. This action was most certainly a response to failure of the trade talks, so 2025–2026 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico seems to be the most applicable redirect. Derek Andrews (talk) 17:59, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep - This redirect is valid as His Excellency Donald J. Trump has used the term "Lake America" to refer this body of water. His Excellency Donald J. Trump, the President of the United States, has proclaimed as follows: "This is Lake Ontario, in Canada and in the United States, But we’re gonna make a little change. We’re gonna call it something different than Lake Ontario. We’re gonna call it Lake America. And all it takes is a good pen and some intelligence". Dn9ahx (talk) 14:29, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete - Still no mention of "Lake America" in the target article. Pointless and confusing. UPDATE/EDIT: Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada, per Notecardforfree. Best idea, and most relevant as the topic is actually discussed in the article there (and still no mention of "Lake America" in the Lake Ontario article). ~2026-42392-14 (talk) 19:15, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Hrmp.. it should go somewhere as it has media attention and a reader could be looking for it. Ideally a link to a section about the topic or if the topic grows a comparable Gulf of Mexico naming controversy type article. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:01, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Support, similar to what I said ~2026-46776-70 (talk) 20:44, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Comment: Trump has now signed an executive order "officially" renaming it to Lake America. Hsnkn (talk) 18:00, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep no matter how silly it may be, there is now an executive order officially renaming it (at least for US govt purposes) RachelTensions (talk) 18:09, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep - Redirects are cheap and Lake America is a plausible redirect to Lake Ontario unless we get an article like Gulf of Mexico naming controversy which would be a better target. If Lake Ontario gets a section for the Trump stunt specifically then it should be targeted at that section specifically. AlexandraAVX (talk) 18:17, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Support, there's also precedent for this, with Mount McKinley redirecting to Denali. Atriskofmistake (talk) 18:20, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

As much as I'd like to delete this, my recommendation is to retarget to American_expansionism_under_Donald_Trump#Canada where the renaming issue is discussed. Notecardforfree (talk) 18:18, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada per Notecardforfree Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:22, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep & retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump § Lake America per User:Dan Leonard. chickenpox4dinner (talk · contribs · email) 22:50, 27 August 2026 (UTC) Keep & target section #Name. Unless Lake America gains colloquial usage, this is the only relevant section to the redirect. Following the executive order, it is pretty inarguably notable, but is not useful as a redirect to Lake Ontario as the main topic. chickenpox4dinner (talk · contribs · email) 18:24, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Removed in this edit. Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:35, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep, it is indeed in the article, as it should be. It might well be offensive, but Wikipedia is not censored. St Anselm (talk) 18:32, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

It is not in the article anymore. Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:38, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

And now it is again. St Anselm (talk) 22:33, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep, Trump has now signed an executive order on this, which will require federal governments to call it this and inevitably generate extensive media coverage and controversy. --AwakenedAmerican1776 (talk) 18:49, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
WP:CRYSTAL. Einsof (talk) 19:44, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete for now because I don't believe there is widespread evidence of usage, even at the official level, yet. I noticed "Gulf of America", which is highly comparable, redirects to a naming controversy page. But since this is so recent, there hasn't even been time to see how it unfolds. Then if it becomes as widespread as "Gulf of America", for consistency, I think it should redirect to Lake Ontario in the meantime while they make a naming controversy page, if they do so at all. But this just seems inappropriately recent. Either way, whatever is chosen, I believe it is most logical and most reasonable to apply a similar approach to whatever is done with "Gulf of America", graded by timeliness, media/official acceptance, and individual use. ~2026-46776-70 (talk) 20:42, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep and redirect to an appropriate section if possible: PBS News, Associated Press, The Washington Post, NBC News, etcetera. People from other countries (including me!) still name it Lake Ontario, as Talk:Lake Ontario/FAQ explicitly states, so this redirect may not be needed. What is the point of calling a redirect "offensive" if it just has the name "America" on it? — SimpleObjects-9ei 🏖️/☀️/🥵 (see talk) 21:20, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Plus, TA appears to have left account before this RfD went big. — SimpleObjects-9ei 🏖️/☀️/🥵 (see talk) 21:36, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep: I agree it’s a stupid, petty, and offensive move, but as a user stated above, Wikipedia is not censored. I’m sure people in Central Pennsylvania get offended by the term “Pennsyltucky”, but we aren’t going to delete that article on their behalf. When someone searches “Lake America” on Wikipedia, it’s probably because they want to know which of the Great Lakes this little stunt is being pulled against, so deleting this redirect would not be be very helpful for that purpose. Red0ctober22 (talk) 21:32, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is self-censored based on its internal rules and integrity. It's not a forum for political debate or commentary.Travelmite (talk) 01:58, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada as others have suggested. Keeps in line with how Gulf of America has been handled -- it redirects to an article or passage about the act of "official" renaming rather than the body of water itself. Jokullmusic 22:05, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep - Yes, it's stupid, but it's also factually true that this is now "apparently" a name for the lake. Wheatley2 (speak to me) (watch me) 22:12, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep; but retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump. Hotrodguy84 (talk) 05:11, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada, per Notecardforfree. Delete otherwise Luka Maglc (talk) 05:46, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada or make an article like this one Octagon758 (talk) 08:25, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada per Jokullmusic. Szxq (talk) 01:42, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump. In my opinion, there has been enough discussion by officials and news organizations in multiple countries in order to make this a salient topic of research. I believe people searching for information on the topic should be able to find reliable, sourced information on Wikipedia. Also, I strongly believe Trump's megalomania should be documented. Sergebenard (talk) 15:11, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute. The article's deletion discussion was closed as no consensus, so the most desirable target for "Lake America" would be that article. Out of the other articles, it gives the most coverage of the name. Jude Halley ^talk/_contribs 18:56, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Keep: Lake Ontario is not the official name anymore. Bryce M (talk) 18:50, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

This is an unacceptable position for a Wikipedian to hold. The Executive Branch of one country does not govern this encyclopedia. Lake Ontario is the official name of this body of water by every other relevant authority on the planet. RedBlueGreen93 19:04, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

You or I don’t determine what locations are named for every other relevant authority on the planet. The local authority determines their own official naming. ~2026-47520-59 (talk) 03:09, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

redirect to dementia CornellRockey (talk) 19:00, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Age and health concerns about Donald Trump might be a better target. RedBlueGreen93 19:08, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
fair point CornellRockey (talk) 19:48, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete offensive, factually incorrect, and not holding any encyclopedic value whatsoever. Important to ignore the !keep votes from MAGA spam here. ~2026-46756-89 (talk) 19:02, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
yes Unsurprising (talk) 21:50, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete or Retarget to This is why aliens refuse to visit Earth. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:05, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Redirects cannot be targeted to redlinks. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 02:07, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump § Canada or § Lake America. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 19:06, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to some article about the idiocy of this presidency, not the Great Lake, which fortunately will carry on as it has been. ~2026-46725-86 (talk) 20:15, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Not an attestable name for this body of water. Anybody who types this into Wikipedia is either looking for information about the name (not the lake itself) or not actually looking for information at all, so pointing it at Lake Ontario# is misleading. Should be retargeted. American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada currently has the most information, though Lake Ontario#Name may eventually surpass it if that section survives in the longterm. One hopes we don't end up with a separate article like Gulf of Mexico naming controversy. —Cryptic 21:26, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- And, now we have Lake Ontario naming dispute (AfD discussion). Point it there if that survives as an independent article, or to wherever that ends up pointing if it's not deleted outright. —Cryptic 12:03, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep if only because when he did the same with the Gulf of Mexico, the United States Board on Geographic Names almost immediately made the change which meant that nearly all US Federal Agencies (such as the National Weather Service, the US Geological Survey, NOAA, etc...) along with several private entities such as Google Maps (at least on the US version of their service) adopted the nomenclature. If for whatever reason that doesn't end up happening, the redirect can always be deleted at a later time. Triple Advantage (talk) 21:49, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep Per AlexandraAVX and Red0ctober22. If people search for "Lake America", we should be able to direct them to the correct target. -- irn (talk) 22:13, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
I guess we have to keep this redirect now. Though I personally think it's profoundly silly, Trump has now signed an executive order to rename the lake, and it's in the article, so it's an appropriate redirect. Gestumblindi (talk) 23:17, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep: Per WP:RPURPOSE: Alternative names redirect to the most appropriate article title. Anne drew (talk · contribs) 23:41, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete or Retarget as the sources show this puffery in an ongoing trade negotiation. If it is to be kept, it should redirect to the relevant section in 2025–2026 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico, so the reader is given access to the most relevant context. Ideally, it should be deleted, since Wikipedia should be politically neutral. Travelmite (talk) 01:56, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario#Name as that is the section of the article that mentions the name, the redirect clearly needs to go somewhere, and there's no other obvious target. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 02:09, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep The President of the United States of America has the right to name places in the USA. The common name of the lake will remain Lake Ontario for a long time. Noel S McFerran (talk) 03:48, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep - the fact that President Trump has signed the Executive Order means this is a valid redirect. May be worth discussing move protecting the Lake Ontario article. Mjroots (talk) 05:26, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
On the contrary, I don't think Trump has the power to declare anything a "valid redirect" here on Wikipedia. ~2026-42392-14 (talk) 06:11, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep I watched World Now news. ~2026-42904-90 (talk) 06:05, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep the redirect for now. The renaming only applies in the US, nowhere else, definitely not in Canada, so Lake Ontario should be the main article. What about Ontario County, New York? Donnanz (talk) 08:19, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep if only because Gulf of America has a similar redirect and assumably, once maps and other sources are updated in the US, this will be a source of confusion. Lucas "nicatronTg" Nicodemus (talk) 08:35, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep not obviously offensive, and redirects have a bigger leeway for neutrality. I think redirect to the Lake Ontario article itself, because it's just an unneutral name for it. Alpha Beta Delta Lambda (talk) 08:44, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
(edited) Retarget -- as redirect to Lake Ontario#Name, not to Lake Ontario. (I've done this) It's just an alternate name, and only 'real' for US govt. We do this similarly for Dominion of Canada which goes to Name of Canada. Alaney2k (talk) 10:07, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
I've done this.
Please don't do that.
Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.
— WP:Redirects for discussion

Furthermore, you're saying "keep (and change target)", but "keep" implies not changing the target. You mean "retarget".
- Modified and noted. Alaney2k (talk) 21:37, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
That said, I like the sentiment. The name section seems most appropriate since the the name "Lake America" is performative and we have yet to see if it catches on. (COI: I'm Canadian and not a fan of Trump to put it mildly, but I'm trying hard to be objective.)

— W.andrea (talk) 13:07, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure the comparison to "Dominion" is fitting since that's archaic instead of novel, plus it's a qualifier and not a name per se, but I can see the similarity so I respect the point you're making. — W.andrea (talk) 13:10, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Don't delete - beyond that I don't much care. My philosophy for Wikipedia has always been, for any significant topic, "someone searching for this should be given relevant information on it" and deletion prevents that. Yes, this is the name given to Lake Ontario by a single dementia suffering idiot who's on his 20th stroke, but it's still relevant enough, given who the idiot in question is. Whether it redirects to an article on expansionism under Trump, an article on the naming controversy itself, or a section in the Lake Ontario article, doesn't matter to me. Readers should be given something, though. -R. fiend (talk) 13:28, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Obvious Keep -- it is an official name of the lake.XavierItzm (talk) 13:34, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep – Redirects are cheap and not typically visible to readers, so WP:N, WP:NPOV, and WP:COMMONNAME don't apply the same way they would for an article title. If it's plausible that anyone could possibly type in "Lake America" when looking for information about Lake Ontario (and I think it is) and if Lake Ontario mentions the "Lake America" thing (which it does in the targeted section), then the small benefit of keeping it outweighs the negligible benefit of removing it. Justin Kunimune (talk) 14:04, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep – No obvious other targets, and anyone who’s searching for it obviously is trying to go to that article. No reason to delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GenericCacti (talk • contribs) 16:39, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep but redirect to Lake Ontario naming dispute -- It is very important to capture the acts of brilliance performed every day by the Greatest American President In History.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 16:40, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Keep and do not retarget to a section. Considering the name is mentioned in the Lake Ontario article, I think keeping it as the target follows the principle of least astonishment for people that are just looking for it by its alternative name per Justin Kunimune above. The article currently links to the trade war anyways. I don't think it should be retargeted to the #Name section because I don't think whatever convenience there is of having the page awkwardly jump when it's finished loading outweighs serving the widest amount of people. If people want to read about the alternative name, it's in the first section. Regardless, I think it's unreasonable to expect that even people who've only read the lead would assume it's a well-used name because then it would appear in the lead. --– Mullafacation 『talk』 16:46, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep childish as it is, it is going to be a search people will do. Slatersteven (talk) 16:51, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep - Fuck Trump. He has proven himself not just the World's Biggest Asshole but also the World's Biggest Dipshit. There will undoubtedly be a very fine history page written about his delusional renaming of a Great Lake with a stroke of a pen fiasco. That chapter of history has not been written yet. But this is a simple, obvious, painless, clear case where a redirect is appropriate. Carrite (talk) 17:33, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Snow keep and retarget to section #Name. No one currently thinks it's called Lake America, and unless and until the name is significant enough to be mentioned in the lead, a redirect not to the #Name section would be an Easter egg. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 18:34, 28 August 2026 (UTC).

Great points. I agree totally. It's worth noting that you also voted to merge and redirect Lake Ontario naming controversy into Lake Ontario#Name, just in case anyone is wondering "why not redirect there instead". — W.andrea (talk) 19:44, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep and redirect to Lake Ontario naming dispute per above. Flip^and Flopped ㋡ 19:09, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute, which is how Gulf of America is handled. –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley $\lor$ investigateᛅ} 19:58, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada -- sounds like a much better idea to me than targeting the actual lake, which shouldn't be referred to like that. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:11, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Lake America (with American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada as second best). This is an international encyclopedia and reflects established international usage; readers wanting to look up the term should be redirected to a treatment of the specific controversy. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:31, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Oppose retargetting the proposed target has the same amount of information about the naming controversy as Lake Ontario, without any information on the lake. The current target serves both readers who are interested in the naming dispute, and those who wish to learn more about the lake. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
~~Keep - unfortunately~~ Retarget to the controversy page, as was done with "Gulf of America" - It is what it is. The next time we get a Dem in the White House they will probably undo all this foolishness. But for now, it's a fact. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:18, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute (noting however that this article may soon be deleted), Keep if that article is deleted. I do not see how any of the criteria under WP:R#DELETE have been met. A couple criteria for WP:R#KEEP, notably points 3 and 5, are met. Retargets to 'American expansionism under Donald Trump' to me seem misplaced, as it seems to me likely that those searching 'Lake America' at this point are most likely looking for more detail on the dispute, which the Lake Ontario naming dispute article provides. They may secondarily be looking for information on the lake at the centre of this dispute, making 'keep' appropriate. Down the line there would need to be some reassessment of which is more appropriate. A redirect to a page on 'American expansionism' verges on WP:RGW, a page some editors may think those searching this term should be reading, but not the article they were looking for. Domeditrix (talk) 22:25, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete as this is more of a stunt and reaction than anything real. There's no encyclopedic value for this redirect - it's nothing but a target. – Handoto (talk) 01:54, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep or retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute. This is now an official name. Some Republican-Party-aligned news agencies have begun using the term "Gulf of America". If there is another notable lake called "Lake America", this should become a disambiguation, but otherwise, the current target is most appropriate. Canadachick (talk) 05:19, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
I'm with Rich. Snow keep and retarget to section #Name. No one currently thinks it's called Lake America, and just because there's an executive order doesn't make it legal nor a WP:COMMONNAME. And just because The Donald is having a hissy fit over Canadian pushback doesn't make it a legitimate controversy either. -- Ohc ^{revolution of our times} 10:14, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lake Ontario naming controversy (while noting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lake Ontario naming controversy) PamD 10:35, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
@PamD, just to be clear, you want to retarget this to the Wikipedia-space page called Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lake Ontario naming controversy, and not the article called Lake Ontario naming controversy? – Epicgenius (talk) 15:46, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
@Epicgenius Thanks for spotting that - I'll fix it! PamD 18:07, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming controversy (while noting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lake Ontario naming controversy) (see above). PamD 18:10, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
Delete or retarget to an appropriate section of American expansionism under Donald Trump. Seriously, what is next? He decides to try to rename the whole planet and we have something like America (planet) redirecting to Earth? Dowotis (talk) 13:18, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
+1 -- Treichelstier (talk) 14:42, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada, per Notecardforfree. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 15:23, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget - to Lake America (South Dakota), the true (and older) Lake of America (or move article about lake in Dakota under this name, or make disambiguation). Szturnek_¿odp? 15:39, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute, as that article has information on the name and the background and context behind the attempted renaming (as part of a trade war). 123957a (talk) 21:07, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
Note: that Lake america has recently been created and redirects to Lake Ontario naming dispute (as of writing). This should be tagged as an {{R avoided double redirect}} of this. Fork99 (talk) 23:41, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
Done by @Rusalkii, thanks! Fork99 (talk) 22:24, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
Keep: USGS name, used by mapping software, should pretty clearly redirect to lake ontario Oeoi (talk) 17:22, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
Convert to dab? Google Maps has now implemented the name for US users per its policy of following GNIS, as is noted in an addition today at Lake Ontario naming dispute#United States. But the name is not in global use and may never be fully implemented even in the US; the governor of New York state, the only US state that borders the lake, has said NY won't be using it. So would a solution be to make Lake America a disambiguation page rather than a redirect?

Lake America (South Dakota)

American Lake in Washington state

Lake America, a name for Lake Ontario used by the federal government of the United States

(Sorry, forgot to sign earlier. Still think disambiguation is the best way to go to without giving this name undue weight while facilitating its use as a search term.) Cynwolfe (talk) 00:41, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

Convert to dab I think this makes the most sensible target if this is not kept (second choice). A retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada or Lake Ontario naming dispute (if that page is kept), are a disservice to people who do want to learn more about the lake instead of why the US administration changed the name. With Lake America in South Dakota and American Lake in Washington state, a dab page is very appropriate and useful to readers. --Enos733 (talk) 19:45, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
In addition to the lakes in the United States with the name of "America" there is an American Lake in Saskatchewan, Lac aux Americains in Quebec, and Lagoa América in Brazil. - Enos733 (talk) 19:56, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep - I don't consider disliking Trump or taking offence to it to be good reasons not to have this redirect. Any good encyclopaedia should be politically neutral. "Lake America" is its formal GNIS name, and searching for that to not be brought to the lake's page (or one that links to it in lead, as is the case with Gulf of America) would be a poor user experience. Here for the one billionth edit (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:26, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute. Since nobody uses the name "Lake America", users searching for this term are interested in the nonsense, not the lake. Tercer (talk) 23:13, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to either Lake Ontario naming dispute or American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada - One imagines that twenty year from now, this whole thing will be largely forgotten. But, one of the purposes of WP is to make it easy for users to find information about things that have occurred, even if not part of widespread contemporary discussion. So for a 2046-era WP user, perhaps not even born yet, who hears mention that the President of the United States once decided it was a good idea to arbitrarily rename Lake Ontario to Lake America, I want that future WP user to be able to learn the details of the incident with minimal searching. Perhaps do this in conjunction with making a disambig page along the lines of what Enos733 mentions above. KConWiki (talk) 00:14, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
Reluctant keep - as indicated above, individuals will search this term and should learn about Lake Ontario. With that being said, there is already a Lake America in the US which could be a strong candidate for this redirect target. --Tawker (talk) 00:51, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
Disambiguate: There's already a Lake America in Dakota, and not everything is about Trump, and a lot of people still commonly refer that Great Lake as Lake Ontario. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 02:37, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
Source for that lake in Dakota? Is it notable? -- Treichelstier (talk) 14:41, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
The lake is a natural geographic feature - which in itself is enough to make an article about it. Besides, look at the articles in List of lakes of South Dakota - most of them are less well-written than the article about Lake America. Szturnek_¿odp? 16:10, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

There is also one in Seattle, but it is *really* small. Jake01756 (talk) (contribs) 04:35, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
Is it notable enough for a Wikipedia article? Size of a lake is not correspondant to the amount of notability. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 00:16, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
Keep, but change target, because the term exists and has become noteworthy (even though many wish this weren't the case). Redirect as appropriate (various reasonable targets have been suggested but I've no particular view on which is best).--A bit iffy (talk) 15:24, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada per Notecardforfree and others. Mgasparin (talk) 23:11, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep, we did the same for Gulf of Mexico/America so we should do the same here (Also the Mount McKinley situation). Like others have said we *could* retarget to a subheading about the naming dispute, but I think it should go to the Lake Ontario article. Redirects are also cheap, so if one (in this case huge) country is calling something one name and a different country is calling it another name, we should have a redirect to the other. As for the Lake America in Dakota, I am assuming that one is really small, we could do that thing under the title where it says "Did you mean..." some other article. I forget what it is actually called. I especially agree with User:Here for the one billionth edit above where they say disliking someone or finding something offensive is NOT a good reason to delete a redirect. Wikipedia is not censored and is unbiased. If Canada, for some reason (<0.1% chance), renames Lake Ontario to Lake America then obv we should move the page to Lake America. As for pointing it to American expansionism under Donald Trump I don't support that at all. There is no precedent for it and that seems like a odd place it to end up. Imagine someone who knows nothing sees "Lake America" on a sign and types that into the search box and gets an article about nothing to do with a lake. We can put a link to said article in the lake Ontario article. Jake01756 (talk) (contribs) 04:33, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
For the record, Gulf of America doesn't redirect to Gulf of Mexico. If you're looking for consistency, retargeting to Lake Ontario naming dispute should sit right with you, I hope. --Diriector_Doc├─────┤^Talk_Contribs 05:25, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to American expansionism under Donald Trump#canada: This is an ongoing trade dispute, naming the target Lake America is currently disputed. One government does not dictate this encyclopedia. BSH🌸 (talk) - (she/her) 14:35, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
Additionally, most people going to the page are looking for information on the name, not the lake itself. BSH🌸 (talk) - (she/her) 13:10, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
Keep but no redirectAny encyclopedia should acknowledge the reality of this issue. But, instead of redirecting the page on Lake Ontario here, the page should summarize the political situation and the disagreement between the two relevant nations. This would be informative. Let's not be outpaced by AI. Just state the Presidential Order, the disagreement, the reaction by private sector (Google, Apple) and make THAT content the page -- instead of a redirect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eleanor Vladinsky (talk • contribs) 01:58, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
I agree with user Tercer's argument. Retarget to Lake Ontario naming controversy. Katemeshi101 (talk) 04:34, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute as soon as possible without prejudice to the AfD. This is the obvious choice, and it is consistent with what we did for Gulf of America. If the AfD ends with a delete or a merge, we can have another discussion. Oppose disambiguation because as far as I know, neither America Lake nor American Lake are called "Lake America". Strong oppose delete because this is a reasonable search term. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk · edits) 05:01, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming controversy which is consistent with Gulf of America. If that article is merged back to Lake Ontario in its own AFD, then I would suggest refining the target to "Lake Ontario#Naming Controversy" or something similar. I oppose outright deletion. Frank Anchor 13:02, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
Retarget To Lake America (South Dakota) as that body of water actually has that name, unlike Lake Ontario. There's no basis in US national nor international law for an American president to unilaterally name an international body of water. Simonm223 (talk) 13:25, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
Keep. Maybe this is just another attention-grabbing fad meant to provoke Carney (and, unintentionally, the Wyandot people), but it's still the official name according to the United States—just as the Gulf Arab states call the Persian Gulf the Arabian Gulf. Plus, Wikipedia already has potentially offensive redirects (within reason), so what's the harm here? Mx User (talk) 02:53, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 3 § Lake America (South Dakota). –CopperyMarrow15 (talk · edits) 05:56, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
Keep. Probably a significant majority of people using this redirect will be Trump fans wanting to look up the lake, with a sizeable number of Trump-neutral or Trump opponents interested in learning about the name change decree. This is basically the same situation as "Gulf of America", which is mentioned in Gulf of Mexico#Name; the incident ought to be mentioned in Lake Ontario if it isn't already. Regardless of the South Dakota lake's existence, I strongly doubt that most readers will know about it; it's five hectares in the middle of sparsely populated farm country, and judging by Google Maps, it's probably not even visible from the closest road, since the road's 500 metres away, and the lake is surrounded by trees. Probably most local residents haven't heard of it. Nyttend (talk) 07:56, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
Keep with original target to Lake Ontario, but add the Template:Redirect hatnote at the top of Lake Ontario offering to read about Lake Ontario naming controversy. Félix An (talk) 17:55, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming controversy. Strong Oppose redirecting to American expansionism under Donald Trump which barely contains any info on the topic. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 20:35, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute (first choice) or American expansionism under Donald Trump#Canada (second choice). Heard about this on Jimbotalk. --Guy Macon (talk) 09:13, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Lake Ontario naming dispute if it's kept, which looks likely. And I also saw this on Jimbotalk. For a WP:OTHERCONTENT example, Gulf of America. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:25, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
It was kept. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:49, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

PDO Planetarium

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Peter Best (actor)

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 01:44, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Peter Best (actor) → List of Harry Potter cast members (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No information about this actor at the target. Delete this IMDb-sourced 2005 stub of which only one line was relevant, and which was BLAR'ed within 2 years. As per that content, he played Walden Macnair in one of the Potter films, whereas IMDb says it was two. In any case, if this is his only acting credit, this redirect is not needed, and the entry at the Peter Best dab should be removed as well. Jay 17:10, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Aray Mala

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 01:41, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Aray Mala → Mala (caste) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target article, nor has ever been according to WikiBlame PamD 14:50, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Watch Hill, Middlebury, CT

The result of the discussion was keep. Rusalkii (talk) 01:41, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Watch Hill, Middlebury, CTWatch Hill, Middlebury, CT → Timex Building (2001) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention at target article PamD 14:49, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Mention added. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 14:52, 29 August 2026 (UTC).

The Psychobilly Wedge

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#The Psychobilly Wedge

J-hawk

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New Friends for Thomas

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 01:38, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

New Friends for Thomas → Thomas & Friends (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete per the rationale of the RfD of Thomas Gets Bumped & Other Stories. The pre-redirect history has been summarized at WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 July 29 § Thomas and His Friends Help Out.

This was a VHS release and cannot be seen as similar to the episode A new friend for Thomas for which we have the redirect New Friend For Thomas. Jay 05:43, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

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Teksi

The result of the discussion was retarget to Taxis of Malaysia. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 08:02, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

TeksiTeksi → Share taxi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target. The creator originally redirected this to Taxi wars in South Africa but this isn't mentioned there either. According to wikt:teksi, Swahili and Malay borrowed the English "taxi" as teksi to mean "taxi". I can't find any reference in articles using "teksi" in an East African context, but Taxis of Malaysia does mention it. Malaysia is also an English-speaking country, but I have no idea if "teksi" is used in Malaysian English or only in Malaysian Malay. I don't think this is a plausible typo for Taxi outside of these languages in English. This is a tricky one for WP:FORRED. Fork99 (talk) 10:55, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

I have also notified Talk:Taxis of Malaysia as a possible retarget option. Fork99 (talk) 10:59, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Taxis of Malaysia reasonable WP:FORRED. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:35, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Taxis of Malaysia per Miminity --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:18, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Android 19

The result of the discussion was retarget to Red Ribbon Army#Android 19. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 05:40, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Android 19Android 19 → Android version history (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is no information about Android 19, plus it is not in development, so it should meet WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL, plus the redirect target had been vandalised multple times changeing links from "Red Ribbon Army#Android 19 to "Android version history". Cosmic-840≈ ● ✒️ 10:07, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Weak Retarget to Red Ribbon Army#Android 19 for now (same with Android 18). Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:33, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
Weak Retarget to Red Ribbon Army#Android 19 as the previous edit. – The Grid (talk) 13:39, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
Weak Retarget to Red Ribbon Army#Android 19 plausible target. --Lenticel ^(talk) 03:46, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

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Eloise Midgen

The result of the discussion was delete. The only holdup is whether the history can be deleted, so I have attributed it via dummy edit at the merge target. Rusalkii (talk) 23:19, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Eloise Midgen → List of Harry Potter characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No information about this character at the target or anywhere else on enwiki. This was an unsourced stub for less than an year in 2005. Delete as not helpful, and the entry at the Eloise disambig page should be removed as well. Jay 04:42, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nom. The community has made it's opinion about minor Harry Potter characters clear and so any that are not mentioned will not be without real world changes. Redirects for those we don't have content about are misleading and hinder people finding the specialised websites that do have content. Thryduulf (talk) 09:35, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: I had closed this discussion as delete, but Fork99 wants to discuss a possible insufficiently unattributed merge so I am relisting.
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The diff link in question is Special:Diff/61871820, the one I provided at Tavix's talk page is incorrect. Fork99 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Any thoughts on the merge?
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Zelenice

The result of the discussion was retarget to Želenice. Rusalkii (talk) 23:06, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

ZeleniceZelenice → Sklithro, Florina (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
ZeleničeZeleniče → Sklithro, Florina (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The exact spelling of "Zeleniče" is not mentioned in the current target. In addition, there are multiple places called Želenice, being Želenice (Kladno District) and Želenice (Most District). Mathguy2718 (talk) 02:19, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

Retarget both as ambiguous names to the disambiguation page at Želenice (as {{r to diacritics}} and {{r from diacritics}}, respectively) and add related spellings like Zeleniche to the disambiguation page. The best title for the disambiguation page can be determined later. - Eureka Lott 19:02, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

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Kladivo na carodejnice

The result of the discussion was retarget to Kladivo na čarodějnice. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 05:43, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Kladivo na carodejniceKladivo na carodejnice → Witchhammer (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This redirect refers to Kladivo na čarodějnice, which is Czech for Witchhammer, a 1970 Czech film. However, Kladivo na čarodějnice (Czech for The Witches' Hammer) is about a 1963 novel. I will note the film gets significantly more pageviews than the novel. Then again, this redirect and the title of the novel only differ by diacritics, but this redirect has targeted the film for about 16 years and has received hundreds of pageviews without previous objections to this redirect, and there may be a case to move the article about the novel to Kladivo na čarodějnice (novel) (which was the previous title of the article about the novel) and turning "Kladivo na čarodějnice" into a disambiguation page. Mathguy2718 (talk) 03:52, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Keep Yes, I think the status quo is defensible here. --BDD (talk) 15:38, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Kladivo na čarodějnice without prejudice against a RM. There does not appear to be any reason why the title without diacritics should not target the title with diacritics. Whether the title with diacritics should be the title of the novel article (I am agnostic) is in my view best left to RM. J 947 ‡ ^edits 00:45, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

Mm, yeah, I may not have thought this all the way through. But it looks like it would make more sense to move the novel article to Kladivo na čarodějnice (novel) and have both forms point to the film. --BDD (talk) 00:55, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

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Retarget to Kladivo na čarodějnice per J947. C 679 07:27, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank You... Chainsaw Man

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Parc Sindibad, Casablanca

The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:28, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Parc Sindibad, Casablanca → Casablanca#Tourism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in article. There was a short-lived article at this site, so sending back to AFD is an option as well. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 05:30, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

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Yumminess

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#Yumminess

Evan Abercrombie

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 01:21, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Evan Abercrombie → List of Harry Potter characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This is meant to refer to Euan Abercrombie, which has never existed. There is a real person with the same name mentioned at O'Fallon Hoots, but it is a passing mention, so I don't know if this should be deleted or retargeted. Fork99 (talk) 01:10, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

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Delete search results can point one to the O'Fallon Hoots mentioned.

Traumnovelle (talk) 00:35, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

스즈메의 문단속

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 4#스즈메의 문단속

The Knob (New York)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 5#The Knob (New York)

That Handsome Devil songs

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 05:51, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Viva Discordia → That Handsome Devil (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Pills for Everything → That Handsome Devil (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Damn Door → That Handsome Devil (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target or anywhere else on Wikipedia. These originally redirected to A City Dressed in Dynamite, but this album does not have an article. Damn door is too vague and has unrelated mentions elsewhere and Pills for everything has an unrelated match to a citation on Opioid epidemic. Fork99 (talk) 04:00, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Tree Food

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 05:52, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Tree Food → That Handsome Devil (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Treefood → That Handsome Devil (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Song which originally redirected to A City Dressed in Dynamite, its album, but the album no longer has an article; not mentioned anywhere. This could plausibly be construed as "food for a tree" but Tree food doesn't exist. There is also a restaurant in Taiwan called Little Tree Food which has been deleted. Delete as vague. Fork99 (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Reagan's Kids

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 5#Reagan's Kids

Kiss the Cook

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 05:50, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Kiss the Cook → That Handsome Devil (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Song which originally redirected to A City Dressed in Dynamite, its album, but the album no longer has an article; not mentioned anywhere. There are unrelated passing mentions of "Kiss the Cook" and Kiss The Cook elsewhere, which could be disambiguated but as none of these have an article, delete. Note there is also Fantastic Voyages Vol. 1#Kiss Da Cook. Fork99 (talk) 03:44, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Night Ranger songs

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 05:49, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Try (For Good Reason) → Night Ranger discography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The Night Has A Way → Night Ranger discography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target or anywhere else on Wikipedia. These originally redirected to Feeding off the Mojo, which is apparently supposed to be capitalised as Feeding Off the Mojo, but this album does not have an article. Fork99 (talk) 03:34, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Blue screen day

The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 05:34, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Blue screen day → 2024 CrowdStrike-related IT outages (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

No mention in the article. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 01:45, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Shocksingularity (talk) 23:02, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:00, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Multiflorum