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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 16:50, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• Think Drink → Coffee  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Think drink → Coffee  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Think-drink → Coffee  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between these redirects and the target article unclear to readers. Steel1943 (talk) 15:48, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. googling this phrase on the first two pages I found multiple different topics that are potentially notable - effects of hydration on dementia patients, effects of hydration on fasting times before surgery, a road safety campaign related to drink driving, and the impact on behaviour the belief about how much alcohol one has consumed has compared to the amount actually consumed. There were also a couple of products (one coconut based, one vitamin based) that didn't look to be notable. None of these results had any relation to coffee other than the second non-notable product also containing caffeine. Thryduulf (talk) 21:22, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Thryduulf. —Myceteae‍🌈 (talk) 22:46, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:20, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 16:48, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• Real crabs → Crab  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

this term is surprisingly vague, referring to any contexts in which crabs can be imitated (fake crab meat, animals that look like crabs, animals currently trying to become crabs, etc.), and to crab traits which are not fictional (did y'all know that crab body parts can't actually be made into gunlances?)

...that's not very important to true crabs, though, so i'm just taking it here to say that there's consensus to retarget to brachyura as a variation of that term, and create real crab to match if this isn't deleted consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 14:29, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Delete: while 'True crabs' is a widespread popular name for the Brachyura, "real crabs" seems to be a rarity. It's hard to see any good reason to keep it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:22, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:20, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 16:43, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• Heather Purple → Purple  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

unmentioned shade, vague with a few people consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 12:17, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• Delete as vague. Ambiguous with, at least, the color of Calluna and purple heathered clothes or fabrics. None of these are mentioned on any of the associated pages, besides a brief mention that Different [Calluna] cultivars have flower colours ranging from white, through pink and a wide range of purples, and including reds. —Myceteae‍🌈 (talk) 22:55, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:21, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. Jay 16:40, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• Matt Larkin → 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in Washington#District 8  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

WP:RETURNTORED Matt Larkin is 1; too generic a name to have it redirect to an election, heres an example of another notable person with that name without an article "Matt Larkin, the general secretary of the National Association of Tenants Organisations (Ireland)"

2; the guy should have a redlink to his name, not a redirect to his election Finnfrog99 (talk) 08:50, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 16:36, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• James Hudnall​ → James D. Hudnall  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Refiling Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2026_May_15#Zero-width_characters as a series of smaller nominations. This one contains an arbitrary zero-width space at the end. * Pppery * _{(alt) in solidarity} 04:10, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

• Move to James Hudnall. That's weird. Must have followed a wonky wikilink when starting it. Emperor (talk) 09:18, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. The correct version has been a redirect for over 20 years. - Eureka Lott 13:40, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, and since the correct version already exists. Steel1943 (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:21, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Feel free to recreate if a mention can be appropriately placed. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:30, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

• Classically Abby → Ben Shapiro#Personal life  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:09, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Mentioned in existing Abigail Shapiro dab. Respublik (talk) 00:36, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nom. I don't see it at Abigail Shapiro either. It's also a very niche and ambiguous term that isn't useful to readers. HarvardJock🏫 (talk) 01:29, 27 May 2026 (UTC) —  Blocked sockpuppeteer, see investigation. Chess enjoyer (talk) 22:36, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

• The Abigail Roth listed at the dab is Classically Abby. She was mentioned as Ben Shapiro's sister at the target and her youtube account Classically Abby was also mentioned, but a major purge by Artaxerxes on 29-Nov 2025, removed content including about the sister. Jay 💬 11:54, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

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• Delete while not mentioned. If a mention is restored at her brother's article, or added elsewhere, this redirect would be appropriate, although it should be an {{a2r}} of the currently nonexistent Abby Roth. So, if there's a mention at the time this RfD closes, my !vote is keep, and otherwise it's delete for now. Also, I've redirected the DAB to Milly Shapiro since her sister is the only entry there that passes MOS:DABMENTION; that can be reverted if Roth is (re)mentioned somewhere. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 16:09, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Iran–United States relations. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 07:29, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

• Current diplomatic tensions between Iran and the United StatesCurrent diplomatic tensions between Iran and the United States → Iran–United States relations during the second Trump administration  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Check Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 May 20 § Current international crisis with Iran. Dudzcar (talk) 22:18, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

• Comment this isn't identical to the situation in the linked RfD as there is no ambiguity here about which international relations are being referred to so I'm leaning towards either keeping it as is or retargetting to Iran–United States relations to pre-emptively avoid issues with "Current" becoming out of date (both Iran and the United States will almost certainly outlast Trump's second administration) but I'm interested to hear other opinions. Thryduulf (talk) 00:20, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
• Delete Any title containing the word "current" will sooner or later become obsolete. On second thought, retargeting to Iran–United States relations is also fine. Lova Falk (talk) 11:10, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per Lova. The age of this redirect (~20 years) shows why a title with "Current" is problematic. Unlike future-facing titles with "Upcoming" or "Untitled", which are expected to be deleted when future becomes present, present-facing redirects have the need to be debated and maintained for ever, making this costly. Jay 💬 20:53, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
• I oppose deletion. It messes up the move history and the AfD at this title (link). However, on reflection retargeting to Iran–United States relations requires less maintenance and better reflects the content at this title (i.e. K4). Given the low views this redirect gets, those are the most important considerations. J947 ‡ ^edits 21:18, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

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• Retarget to Iran–United States relations. J947's comments have convinced me this is the best action. Thryduulf (talk) 01:04, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
• Retarget to Iran–United States relations. Keeps history visible per J947. Relatively harmless for a "current X" redirect: won't go out of date, and readers looking for a more specific topic can find links to e.g. Iran–United States relations during the second Trump administration or 2026 Iran war on that page. Jruderman (talk) 00:37, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 16:13, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

• Ptolmy Stone → St. John's College (Annapolis/Santa Fe)#Ptolemy Stone  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Ptolemy stone → St. John's College (Annapolis/Santa Fe)#Ptolemy Stone  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No longer mentioned at article. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:27, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

• Delete unless content is added. The relevant content was removed in this 2021 edit by Pseudoname1 and I can fully understand why. Googling, there might be enough information available to add encyclopaedic content about the device (although probably not as a standalone article) that's not just about the examples at St. John's College campuses. Unless and until we have such content though the redirect is not helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 12:54, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
• Also bundle Ptolmy Stone or delete as a WP:G8 as a dependent. Jay 💬 07:06, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Feel free to recreate if a mention can be appropriately placed. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:28, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

• FextraLife → Valnet  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

unmentioned. might be slightly notable, but i don't think most of the sources i've found (which i can list if needed) would help for gng or for warranting a mention, since it's about stuff individuals or groups have done in fextralife, or stuff fextralife has done. or i could be wrong, and they could help it meet gng consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 18:57, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

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Do the sources connect it to Valnet? That would seem to qualify FextraLife for a mention in the list of "several internet media publications" acquired, if so. Dingolover6969 (talk) 11:48, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

@Consarn: The question is for you. Jay 💬 19:20, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

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oops, i slept through the weekend

the answer to the above was somewhere between "almost" and "lol no"

in the former category was this announcement from polygon, which is owned by valnet, addressing them as "our pals"

in the latter category was... just about everything else, really. also, the sources were a little on the insubstantial side when it comes to fextralife itself, so meh consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 11:00, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:52, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• First Meetings in the EnderverseFirst Meetings in the Enderverse → First Meetings  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not a plausible alternative name, not mentioned in target. Go D. Usopp (talk) 05:48, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• Keep, mentioned at target; "Tor Books republished the book in 2003 under the title First Meetings in the Enderverse" Finnfrog99 (talk) 08:59, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• Keep plausible alternative name, mentioned at target. J947 ‡ ^edits 23:01, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 16:01, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

• Tiping → Taiping  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is also a plausible misspelling of tipping or typing. Search results were split between these two intended spellings, but both of these intended words were more common than for Taiping. Mathguy2718 (talk) 05:33, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• Delete. Ambiguous misspelling for multiple words. Steel1943 (talk) 15:52, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• Agreed in principle. It should be noted that the 2018 creation edit summary said it was about the Taiping rebellion based on sources. Also, what happens if we delete it - I don't see the "Taiping" meaning in search engine output except for the redirect. Maybe disambiguation would make sense. --Joy (talk) 07:56, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
• Comment. I haven't immediately been able to find any non-scanno results in reliable sources using "Tiping" to mean Taiping, although it is the third most common meaning in non-reliable misspellings ("typing" and "tipping" are the joint most common), however that doesn't mean they don't exist, especially as there are mutliple reliable sources using "Ti-ping" or "Ti-Ping". There is also an academic named "Tiping Su" (whose notability I have not investigated) who complicate searches. Thryduulf (talk) 08:27, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per Steel. NerdyEpiscopalian (talk) 14:07, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
• Delete as a plausible misspelling of more words than the current target. Jay 16:32, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was restore disambiguation. Jay 14:09, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

• 0-0 → Castling  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The original disambiguation page at this location was converted into a redirect to 00 (disambiguation page) by Shhhnotsoloud, then was retargeted to Castling by an IP user. This leaves a few outcomes for this redirect: choosing a suitable target (either to an article or another disambig page), or returning it to the original disambiguation page. Furthermore, O-OO-O could be another redirect up for discussion. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 02:51, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• Keep nothing at OO or 00 seems to use a dash in the middle of it, so this is unambiguous. It is probably worth checking what links there though given its page history and possibly correcting that. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 14:24, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• Restore to original dab page, perhaps with some expansion. One obvious meaning of "0-0" is the report of a sporting competition that ends in a Tie with neither side scoring any points - very common in association football. However, we don't have articles on score draw or no score draw, the second of which would be an obvious alternative to the chess term. Tevildo (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
• Restore disambiguation page, this version. Note that 0-0 means specifically king's side castling, as opposed to 0-0-0 (queen's side castling). Also, both 0-0 and O-O are commonly used in chess writing. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 10:56, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
• Castling does seem like the most likely target but given it appears other topics like draws in general use this the DAB might be better. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:15, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
• Restore disambiguation page, agree castling is most likely but has the issue of 0-0 being kingside. Also note it's weird we have Double zero redirecting to 00 but 000 redirects to Triple zero. Dayshade (talk) 23:48, 16 June 2026 (UTC)
• Comment: From 12:10, 17 June 2026 to 04:08, 22 June 2026, this redirect was untagged due to a manual revert by @MarSch. MarSch, please don't remove RFD tags while the discussion is still in progress. I'm not sure what to do now. Should this discussion run for a few more days because of this? Chess enjoyer (talk) 04:13, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

  - That's 4.6 days, so it seems that closing should be delayed by at least 5 days. I just became aware of this discussion today via 0-0. -R. S. Shaw (talk) 20:11, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

• Restore disambiguation page (and update it) because, primarily, the Castling page already has a hatnote "O-O" redirects here. For other uses, see OO.and should not have an additional hatnote saying "0-0" redirects here. For other uses, see "0-0 (disambiguation)". Many of the fonts that Wikipedia uses in articles do not make O-O and 0-0 easily distinguishable, especially at a glance as hatnotes usually get. Having both forms present and additional hatnote verbiage is too much of a burden for readers for very little (if any) gain. That alone is reason enough to not have both O-O and 0-0 redirect to Castle. The OhOh pages are set up well enough with Castling, so zer0-zer0 should be a disambiguation page. The zeros are fundamentally different symbols from the Ohs, despite both probably being used to refer to castling. Outside of the castling context, zer0-zer0 often has meaning related to zeroness of the symbol, not just the shape, and for disambiguation the zeros should not be intermingled with the Ohs. At least one update to the 0-0 disambiguation should be for it to lead with the common style of opening: "0-0 is often a symbol for Castling in chess. / 0-0 may also refer to:" ---R. S. Shaw (talk) 09:32, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Web browsing history. (non-admin closure) Chess enjoyer (talk) 03:50, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

• Web browser historyWeb browser history → History of the web browser  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Browser historyBrowser history → Web browsing history  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These redirects should be retargeted in order to match each other.

• History of the web browser (Describes the history of web browsers)

or

• Web browsing history (Describes the actual history feature of web browsers)

Justjourney (talk | contribs) 00:20, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• Retarget to Web browsing history. From the two terms above, I'd expect them to refer to the "History" feature located in browsers. 8BitBros (talk • edits) 06:07, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to Web browsing history per 8BitBros. Certainly the most common term. 🫀 Crash // Organhaver ( it / he | talk to me, maybe? ) 16:27, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

• Retarget to Web browsing history as the far more common usage. If so inclined, hatnote could be added to the other article. NerdyEpiscopalian (talk) 14:09, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

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