Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 May 31

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 31, 2026.

(m)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Rusalkii (talk) 04:32, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Delete per Criterion 8 ("Very obscure synonym for an article name not mentioned in the target"). No incoming links. Tevildo (talk) 22:17, 31 May 2026 (UTC)

Retarget to m (disambiguation)? Dudzcar (talk) 23:34, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
I don't think retargetting to the main dab page is the best solution - we don't usually have redirects for single letters with parentheses. We have (c) and (r) as they're typographic conventions, but we don't have (f), the obvious counterpart to (m). Tevildo (talk) 06:50, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
Delete per nom. NerdyEpiscopalian (talk) 00:42, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
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Crossroads (song)

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The result of the discussion was Close as Retarget to Crossroads#Songs. No changes envisioned to the Crossroads (single) redirect. Epicgenius (talk) 13:00, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

There are two articles about songs titled "Crossroads", which are Crossroads (GFriend song) and Crossroads (Tracy Chapman song). Google search results show this is not the primary topic. As such, I propose retargeting to the original target from since April 2020 until March 2026, Crossroads#Songs. Mathguy2718 (talk) 00:46, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

  • Restore 2020 revision per nom: The 21:25, 28 April 2020 revision of the first redirect should be restored since there are multiple songs with that name. The Eurovision song could've been added to the disambiguation page rather than changing the target link of the redirect. 8BitBros (talk • edits) 05:28, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
Retarget to Crossroads#Songs: no PTOPIC. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 22:23, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Epicgenius (talk) 19:13, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure why this got relisted without any relisting comment; there is currently unanimous consensus to retarget to Crossroads#Songs, which is the same as the 21:25, 28 April 2020 revision that 8BitBros referred to. Mathguy2718 (talk) 19:19, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
    I should clarify that I thought restoring the old revision would be better, given that the content of it is just going to be added back if the redirect is changed. 8BitBros (talk • edits) 20:31, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
    @Epicgenius: Mathguy's question was to you, as relister. Did you see (or not see) something, that others missed? Jay 💬 04:29, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
    @Jay, there were two redirects in the nom, but the comments seemed to be only about the Crossroads (song) redirect. I relisted because I didn't see a consensus for any action regarding Crossroads (single) (as it is, the redirect target wouldn't be changed). However, it does seem like there is consensus to retarget Crossroads (song), so I will close this nom to retarget that. Pinging @Mathguy2718 as well. – Epicgenius (talk) 12:57, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
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Passenger services

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 June 21#Passenger services

2637

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Styled name

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Crash of 1929 book

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Epicgenius (talk) 13:01, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

There are multiple books that this could refer to, such as The Great Crash, 1929 and Lords of Finance, which already have articles. ScalarFactor (talk) 21:42, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

  • Comment if we had a list of category of books about the crash that would make an ideal target for this redirect, but I can't find such a list and while there does exist Category:Wall Street crash of 1929 only three of the six category members are books. Wall Street crash of 1929#Further reading does contain more books, but it doesn't seem to include any of the books that have articles so wouldn't be particularly helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 23:01, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
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Of the three listed so far, only the The Great Crash, 1929 also has an appropriate title (not just appropriate subject matter) so I think we should just hatnote those together in a WP:ONEOTHER type of situation. Probably just a {{confuse}} or something. Dingolover6969 (talk) 11:32, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete: not a sensible redirect, no indication that the book is ever known by this phrase. PamD 16:29, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Agree with Pam. Jay 💬 04:51, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
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September 17 floods

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Punan Batu 2

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. Appears to be withdrawn, according to the nominator's reply. (non-admin closure) Chess enjoyer (talk) 06:08, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

I can only find one instance () of this being used with the "2", and it may be circular as it mentions all of the Wikipedia redirects. KyleSirTalksAlot (talk) 05:20, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

Keep - Here are several sources that use Punan Batu 2:
  • Césard, Nicolas; Guerreiro, Antonio; Soriente, Antonia (2015). Petualangan Unjung dan Mbui Kuvong: sastra lisan dan kamus Punan Tuvu' dari Kalimantan (in Indonesian). Jakarta: Kepustakaan Populer Gramedia / École francaise d'Extrême-Orient. p. 49. ISBN 9789799109767.
  • 編輯部 (December 2010). "Austronesian Language Family: Ethnos of North Borneo Language Group (II)". Aboriginal Education World (in Chinese). No. 36. Taipei: Center for Aboriginal Studies, National Chengchi University. pp. 80–87. (direct link)
  • "MALAYSIA - Basic Facts" (PDF). World Missions Atlas Project. p. 18. Retrieved May 23, 2026.
  • "Sajau Basap". Joshua Project. Retrieved May 23, 2026.
  • Güldemann, Tom; McConvell, Patrick; Rhodes, Richard A., eds. (27 February 2020). The Language of Hunter-Gatherers. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 742. doi:10.1017/9781139026208. ISBN 9781139026208.
--Namoroka (talk) 06:19, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Thoughts on the sources presented above?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:10, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
I'll citing more sources as below:
--Namoroka (talk) 02:18, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
  • I created these as part of a project to redirect all the names in several lists of the languages of the world. I didn't confirm that the blue links were correct or disambiguated, but I did create rd's from all the red links. But I don't see any links to these names now. I don't know if the list was deleted, or if someone "fixed" it by replacing the rd's with direct links. It is, however, listed as a synonym at Languages of Kalimantan. — kwami (talk) 08:25, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
  • @KyleSirTalksAlot: What do you think? Jay 💬 04:44, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
    Yeah, it appears niche but since people can find more sources for it than I can, it makes sense to keep I think. KyleSirTalksAlot (talk) 05:18, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
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300m tower

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The result of the discussion was keep and encourage a sourced mention. Note Eiffel Tower § Origin briefly uses this term. (non-admin closure) J947 ‡ edits 01:23, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

In modern days, not so many people remember the name of "300-metre tower", now is ambigious that can refer to any tower that is 300 m tall like Aspire Tower and Gran Torre Costanera A1Cafel (talk) 04:50, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

  • Keep - This is a relevant historical name, and the Eiffel Tower the only tower really known for being 300 meters, meaning it makes sense in my opinion to keep this redirect and the hatnote. KyleSirTalksAlot (talk) 05:11, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Sinsyuan✍️PJTW 05:39, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete, not mentioned at the target. If it were such a relevant historical name, it should be at the article. But until then, a searcher wouldn't know why they were redirected there. They might see in the infobox that it's 300m tall, but so what? Did people call it this? Is it merely descriptive? What? –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 06:06, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
    For that case, should we make the disambiguation page of it? Sinsyuan✍️PJTW 06:29, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
    I'm....not sure how you came to that suggestion after reading my !vote, but I think that would likely be even worse. As a plain descriptive term, the redirect shouldn't exist, period. As an old name for the Eiffel Tower, it should only exist if there's some discussion of the former name at the target. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 06:34, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm not convinced that this is a primary topic based on my searches. Google Books pulls up some hits for the Eiffel Tower when searching this phrase, but these are generally only as a point of information—not an alternative name for the structure. This issue was brought up in the prior RfD, where consensus was to add sourced mentions for the phrase. But no such mentions were ever added. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:30, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. It's a very vague description that isn't particularly useful to searchers or readers. 300-metre tower isn't strikingly referential to the Eiffel Tower. I view this as just another useless redirect page taking up space, helpful to no one. Let's get rid of it. HarvardJock🏫 (talk) 21:48, 23 May 2026 (UTC) (Blocked sockpuppeteer Blocked sockpuppeteer, see investigation) Chess enjoyer (talk) 01:05, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Keep as a historical name of the tower project (covering both this tower that was built, and the proposed masonry tower that did not get selected), and add it into the article. Also include the American version of the name, the 1000-foot tower that was also used historically. -- ~2026-25149-07 (talk) 03:52, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Keep. Not all sources that readers engage with are "modern day". If someone encounters an old reference for the tower that uses this name, they should be redirected to the tower that is being referred to. -- Tavix (talk) 00:25, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
    The issue is that no editor in either RfD has provided any actual sources to confirm the assertion that this is an older name for the tower. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 03:03, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:09, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete per the delete !votes of this and the previous RfD, unless we have a sourced mention. Second choice - Retarget to List of tallest structures. Jay 💬 05:23, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
    Struck per Rusalkii's detailed finds, and tag the redirects as {{R without mention}}. It is odd that such encyclopedic information is missing from the article of such an important world wonder. Jay 💬 04:18, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
  • The official website for the Eiffel tower has "The Eiffel Tower, originally called 'The 300-meter Tower'...". Other sources with this claim: phys.org, I think the poster here is a primary source, another old poster, Google Arts & Culture. This paper claims that "Eiffel referred to the ‘‘300-meter tower’’", this one has "...the 300-meter tower, as it was called during its construction...". It seems like the tower was originally designed in response to a competition for, specifically, a 300-meter tower, and called that, and Eiffel's name was attached to it a bit later. Another source says that Eiffel wrote a book called "La Tour de 300 Mètres" about the construction of the tower. So I think this name should probably be added and then the redirects kept. I don't have the time to do a more careful read of the sources that I'd want to do to actually add it in at the moment, though I might come back to this in a bit if no one else does. Rusalkii (talk) 04:45, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
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Marie-Thérèse de France (disambiguation)

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Oxjam

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The result of the discussion was restore article. No prejudice against a speedy AFD. (non-admin closure) Chess enjoyer (talk) 04:04, 8 June 2026 (UTC)

Oxjam is not a typo or alternate spelling of Oxfam. It used to be an article that was BLARd as redirecting highly promotional signpost page... There is no mention at the target, and the only other Oxjam page Oxjam Cardiff Chill redirecting to the same target was deleted at its RfD today. Either Delete or Restore the article version. Jay 💬 15:15, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

  • Restore article. It would be possible to rewrite that to be not promotional. I haven't assessed notability, but with that many references and that many connections to notable articles it's not even remotely close to being speediable so it needs to go to AfD if some thinks it shouldn't be an article. Thryduulf (talk) 17:09, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Can't information be added to the target about this as it is a festival that raises money for Oxfam. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:10, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
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Restore article. Skimming the page it looks notable. Dingolover6969 (talk) 11:52, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
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FextraLife

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Polker

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Jay 💬 22:17, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Vague, this could also refer to Poker, which was contained in all of the top results on Google when I searched for this (with a total of 631,000 results). It may also be noted that L is located right next to "P", "O" and "K" on QWERTY keyboards, thus making it a not unlikely typo of Poker.
The only justification I can see for keeping this redirect is maybe as a pronunciation spelling similar to how "chopper" is pronounced and sometimes written as "choppa", only backwards (Polka --> Polker). 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 20:11, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

  • Keep. I would be very surprised to end up at poker if I used this to search for Polka. A very plausible homophone (at least in non-rhotic accents) misspelling should take precedence over a typo imo. Thryduulf (talk) 00:41, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Bartow Polkers, a member of that team would be called a Polker. -- Tavix (talk) 01:19, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete. Vague error with multiple possible matches. I can't imagine that either "poker" or "polka" would have any claim to being significantly more plausible here. As for the Bartow Polkers, I mean, possible, but no one looking for information about a sports team is going to search for it in the singular, so it's of little value there on top of being obscure. Better to just let the search feature handle this one. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 17:01, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Reterget to Bartow Polkers but note that Polkers doesn't exist but probably should. Per WP:PLURALPT "For the rare articles that have plural titles, like Seattle Seahawks, there should normally be a redirect from the singular form (Seattle Seahawk)". Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:11, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, since a "polker" could be a helpful {{R from incorrect name}} for someone who performs the polka. Steel1943 (talk) 00:33, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
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  • I still think a retarget to Bartow Polkers makes most sense over a misspelling. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:27, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
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Keep. I feel like someone (perhaps humorously) misspelling "polka" in a non-rhotic dialect is more likely than someone looking for an individual member of a short-lived professional minor league baseball team, based in Bartow, Florida that existed from 1919 until 1920. What even where the "polkers" named after? (Possibly polka?) Any, I'd like to back this up with some sources but unfortunately "polker" is the name of a poker app that is ruining the google results. A brief mention on google scholar tips me off that this might also be the name of a Polish coin, however: (not from scholar:) . Sadly we don't cover that coin on WP. Dingolover6969 (talk) 11:46, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
I can only access the third of those links, it gives Półtorak as a name. That article is about a Polish coin but doesn't include the word "polker" at all and neither does the article's sole source. The Polish wiki article interiwkied is pl:Półtorak (moneta), and that doesn't include the term either (indeed there appear to be no instances of it on pl.wp at all), it cites only offline sources so that's not helpful to me. Googling "Polker" "Półtorak" I found one other not-obviously-unreliable site that confirmed what I suspected from the first link, "Polker" isn't the name of that coin, rather the coin is worth 3 Polker as it is also worth 1½ Groschen 1 Polker must equal ½ Groschen. Groschen tells me in relation to Poland that in modern terms its 1/100 złoty (the modern currency is not subdivided beyond that, as currently 1 złoty is worth ~€0.23). In Polish, the ½ Groschen coin is named "Półgrosz" and lo and behold we do have a Półgrosz article, but "Polker" is not mentioned on that page. states that The polker was the German name for the common silver semi-grosz (półgrosz) of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. (Półgrosz does not have an article in German, and there are no results for "Polker" when searching de.wp). Summing all that up, the German name for a Polish-Lithuanian coin, which is apparently not used at all in Polish would seem to fail WP:RLOTE. This was an enjoyable rabbithole though, so thanks for the find! Thryduulf (talk) 16:13, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
What even where the "polkers" named after? Probably, wikt:polk defines that word as an obsolete slang term meaning "to dance the polka", so logically a "polker" would be someone who engaged in that activity, although based on ngrams the term was at best dated by the time of the team. The spike in the 1850s is apparently due to a popular Democratic taunt (probably the wrong word) to Republicans in advance of the 1852 United States presidential election, "We Polked you in 1844 and we'll Pierce you in 1852" referring to James K. Polk and Franklin Pierce, which make sense when you know (as I learned just now) that Polk's surname is a homophone of "poke" and not of the first syllable of "Polka". This pronunciation difference may also explain why some people here are seeing "poker" as a more logical target than "polka"? Thryduulf (talk) 16:33, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Do not retarget to any misspelling. I'm not convinced that Polka, which is two letters away from Polker, is a primary misspelling over similar terms like poker, Poliker, Poelker, Porker (considering Perception of English /r/ and /l/ by Japanese speakers), Poller, Polcer, or any other one-letter deviation. Setting up a {{Disambig misspelling}} is a possible option. Of course, a correct spelling should take priority of any misspelling, so if any content about "Polker" is added, the redirect PolkerPolker could be made to point to that point. I don't believe Bartow Polkers would work since googling "Bartow Polker" returned zero results. If content about 3-Polker coins is added, that would be a good target since it looks reasonable that someone would search "Polker" for this, and surprisingly, when researching, there is only "3-Polker" and not other "n-Polker" coins, so there may be curiosity on what "Polker" refers to. However, if no suitable content reasonably referred to as "Polker" is added, and a misspelling disambiguation is not appropriate, the redirect should be deleted. Mathguy2718 (talk) 19:47, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
  • Soft redirect as {{commons redirect}} to File:Post-medieval coin, 3 Polker of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (FindID 713345).jpg which appears to be the primary topic. I very much appreciate Thryduulf's research into the matter; however, it appears to be used in practice to refer to that coin more than anything else. Otherwise, retarget to Bartow Polkers per above, as a real topic is preferred to an error in most cases. Short of those, delete as unworthy of disambiguation and too ambiguous of an error to pick a target ('poker' would seem best to me, but that is beside the point). — Godsy (TALKCONT) 22:45, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
    I think retargetting to Bartow Polkers would be the worst of all worlds here as there is no evidence at all that the term has ever been used to refer to that obscure team. Searching "Baseball" "Polker" and insisting I didn't mean poker brings up only surnames of non-notable people somehow associated with the sport, mostly fans. Thryduulf (talk) 23:49, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
    If Bartow is the only notable use then why is that the worst option? Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:09, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
    I think you might have misread a comment? Bartow is not only not the most notable use it isn't any sort of use. Both @Mathguy2718's and my comments explicitly state we have found any evidence at all that a member of that team was ever known as a "Polker" singular and nobody else has presented any evidence either. The only evidence we have of the term being used in English is as relatively common and highly plausible misspelling of "polka", a less common and less plausible misspelling of "poker" and, least commonly, as a partial title match for the coin. Only when I explicitly told Google the context was baseball did it show me results relevant to the sport, and even then they were the surnames of baseball fans without any connection with the minor league team that existed for a couple of years over a century ago and were named "Polkers" not "Polker". Thryduulf (talk) 20:08, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
    WP:PLURALPT says For the rare articles that have plural titles, like Seattle Seahawks, there should normally be a redirect from the singular form (Seattle Seahawk). Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:11, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
    First, Normally does not mean "always" and there are plenty of instances where the plural and singular lead to different targets (c.f. WP:SMALLDIFFS). Secondly, that's an argument regarding the target of Bartow Polker not Polker, and even if it were you would still need to show some evidence that the sports team is the primary topic over the coin, the dance, the card game and the political slogan (all of which we have evidence use for, unlike the sports team). Thryduulf (talk) 22:07, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
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beat stuff

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Le Quai Malaquais et l'Institut

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