Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Vision Thing
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 | Despite the evidence presented by Hipocrite and LK, this RFC/U has received little attention since it was opened and it has largely been abandoned. There have been no edits to this RFC/U since 25 March 2012 (except the removal of a category and the RFC/U doesn't have a talk page at all. RFC/U closed due to inactivity and due to the low participation, there is no consensus for any remedy against Vision Thing. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 10:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC) |
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Statement of the dispute
Vision Thing is an unabashed edit warrior, who powers his biased viewpoint into articles by frequent, but slo-mo reversion, misrepresentation of consensus, and overall biased editing.
Desired outcome
Vision Thing will cease all reverting, and will either leave the judging of consensus for others, or accept that he might be wrong.
Description
Vision Thing is strongly conservative when it comes to all things economic - I doubt he would disagree with this statement.
His MO when in a dispute is to continually make the same revert over and over - but spread over a long period of time - with the intent of wearing down his opposition - see , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , - and that's just one article.
Sometimes, he attempts to get outside input to support his edits - but his attempts in getting such input are confusing (see:Talk:Paul_Krugman#RfC), misrepresent the positions of his adversaries (see:). When the results turn out adverse to his interests, he misreads consensus, or only applies the parts he likes the results of (see:Talk:History_of_the_United_States_public_debt#RFC:_Should_Bruce_Bartlett.27s_view_on_the_US_debt_be_included.3F, which he uses to make this revert over and over).
Added by Lawrencekhoo
I have for some time now, made known my opinion that one should edit in a balanced fashion, and apply the same standards to both views that one agrees with and views that one opposes. Vision thing is unabashedly and tendentiously partisan. He demands the highest standards of support for views he doesn't like, and is amazing liberal with evidence for views that agree with his. LK (talk) 08:03, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
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I find it reveling that Hipocrite thinks that making two comments on two separate occasions is a proof of attempt to resolve a dispute. Moreover, one of those comments was a borderline personal attack and other objection to formulation of RfC without any proposal for improvement or any other actionable suggestion. Still, enough other editors commented to make it clear that preferred course of action is to remove all disputed content in both cases involving Paul Krugman. After that was done no other objections emerged and both issues were resolved.
As of today, all of Hipocrite's edits to History of the United States public debt are reverts of my edits. He didn't make one constructive edit to the article. His first edit to the article was revert to 2 months earlier version, which was btw preferred by LK at that time. That and following reverts were not followed by any discussion on talk about what his concerns actually are. His first comment on talk came two weeks and 6 reverts later. I suggested a compromise version of the lead which was accepted, but no other objections were made so it seems to me that he started reverting out of support for LK (who also didn't explain his removals on talk) or this is the best case of "I don't like it" that I have seen in a while.
On History of the United States public debt there was a dispute whether Bruce Bartlett's views were properly represented. LK started a Rfc on it and since only other editor who commented beside LK and me didn't support LK's view mention of Bartlett's views was drooped from the article in October 2011. However, after 2 months have passed LK reinserted disputed views without any discussion on talk. In fact, he reinserted it in a middle of series of edits without even making an edit summary. In attempt to keep it in he made a number of mass reverts that also included reverts of other changes. , , , , , , , , , , LK's reverts ignored RfC, previous consensus and fact that he was making a possible violation of WP:BLP by misinterpreting views of a living person. Also, LK in reverting uses terms like "undo censorship" (even though in this instance he is removing content on net basis, including significant part of content that comes from History section of the main article), "Bordering on vandalism" , and he posted talk page comment indirectly accusing me of being "heartless propaganda-pushing right-wing baby killer" . I think that such behavior is inappropriate and not conductive for constructive editing.
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