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Template:Wikispore-inline

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Pppery (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:09, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused interwiki link template. Gonnym (talk) 09:14, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Also conisider Template:Wikispore which has some transclusions but none of the links currently work anyway. -- Reconrabbit 18:12, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
Keep as this was in used until recently at List of community gardens in New York City, there is currently a tech issue at Wikispore (also affecting other pages) that we are in the process of fixing now.--Pharos (talk) 17:07, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Now used in one article. Thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:47, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
With the recent bug fix for Wikispore, it has been restored at List of community gardens in New York City and will likely be used multiple times there and elsewhere. We have been using this for our edit-a-thon series focused on this and other hyperlocal topics, most recently with Event:Kelly Street Garden Edit-A-Thon (Community Garden Series). Pharos (talk) 20:22, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
I have no issues with keeping it now, but please actually use it as one single usage isn't enough to for a template to exist. Gonnym (talk) 17:19, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 21:46, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
Comment: if this is only used a single time, then I'm still for deletion. We don't need a template for that. Gonnym (talk) 17:46, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
Agree as well. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:42, 2 December 2025 (UTC)
  • delete, only used one time in one article, and not something we need a template to accomplish in this one case. Frietjes (talk) 20:44, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
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Template:Uw-2redirect

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:29, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

The thing is, no one manually fix double redirects as a bot automatically fixes them within a few days. Additionally, this template has only ever been used 15 times and its all before 2016. And the Wikipedia:Double redirects page recommends users not to fix it themselves. Therefore, I don't see this user notice template to be useful. JuniperChill (talk) 18:18, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete It doesn't seem to be a useful template. Opm581 (talk | he/him) 10:34, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:44, 2 December 2025 (UTC)
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Template:Montreal Canadiens roster

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The result of the discussion was keep. WP:SNOW (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 07:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

Used in only two locations, insufficiently complex. One of the uses should probably be a simple link to the section on the primary page. Izno (talk) 18:17, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

  • Keep, what? Tables like this are part of every team article. It's a standard used WikiProject wide, not just for the Canadiens. At the very least, if you're going to make an actual argument about it, bring all 31 other team lists to the table, though I expect you will only invite far greater resistance. Whoever currently plays for a team is an essential part of the subject of the article. I also understand that scrapping this would make your life easier to deal with a certain LTA, but we'll just have to live with that. mftp dan oops 19:13, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    this would make your life easier to deal with a certain LTA Not actually a motivation, no.
    Tables like this are part of every team article Yes, that's known. That's not the point of a TFD nomination, which can resolve not just as "keep" or "delete" but also "subst".
    bring all 31 other team lists to the table It is pretty common when seeking deletion to have a test case. This helps avoid trainwrecks of discussions, as you noted just after.
    I had missed that there were two uses. Izno (talk) 19:18, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    You don't think that something this big would have been useful to bring up to the project first? mftp dan oops 19:20, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    To clarify, are you arguing for substitution? mftp dan oops 19:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    this big My nomination is pretty routine, so, no.
    are you arguing for substitution When the template hosts content in the template space, that's the most common end state, and users are free to say as much in their comment, regardless of what I'm arguing for. Izno (talk) 19:28, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    Can you elaborate on "insufficiently complex"? mftp dan oops 19:38, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    It's a basic table (built from table row templates). Izno (talk) 19:44, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    And that makes it eligible for deletion? mftp dan oops 21:07, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    It's an additional motivation for not having it be its own template. Izno (talk) 21:32, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    You can subst the table into the team article then do {{#section:Montreal Canadiens|Current roster}} in the list page. That way you aren't placing article content inside templates. Gonnym (talk) 19:19, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    That's just the way they've always done it. I'm sure there was a reason they did it that way, what exactly I am uncertain. Are we not supposed to place article content inside templates for any reason? mftp dan oops 19:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    Wikipedia:Template namespace#Guidelines: Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. If a piece of content is really used in multiple places sometimes templates are really the best option. Here however, where it is used only twice, and there is another way to display the content, then having it in a template isn't really the best option. Gonnym (talk) 19:53, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    I really sort of disagree on the "difficult to edit" argument. There's this big "edit" button at the top of the table that you can still click from the page it's displayed on, and automatically takes you to the page it's located at to fix it. Not all that hard or inconvenient in my opinion. Plus, how should "article text" be interpreted? This is a table, not plain writing. mftp dan oops 21:09, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
    Personally, I kind of like having content that is being used in multiple articles to be in a template, as that's a clear indicator that any changes should be validated in all articles using it before being submitted. In the case of team rosters, this approach also reduces churn in the article history by moving roster updates to a separate page. This makes it easier for those not interested in validating roster updates to focus on non-roster updates to a team page, and vice versa. Additionally, reverting vandalism to a team page, not an uncommon occurrence, is simpler when roster updates don't happen amongst the poor edits (and any other good ones). isaacl (talk) 22:45, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep - We have 32 such NHL team roster templates. GoodDay (talk) 20:21, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. These are standard practice for NHL teams. The Kip (contribs) 20:37, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep Not sure what this is about and why it is nominated. See above, common for NHL and even more (NBA and so on...) IF deletion is wanted a wider discussion would be needed. Kante4 (talk) 20:49, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep: Such templates aren't merely in use in NHL articles, but in other sports as well. Ravenswing 01:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep I agree with Kante4. Masterhatch (talk) 14:00, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep Per WP:TG, the template should be kept per Templates used in articles are designed to provide information to assist readers, such as navigation aids, formatting - I understand most of the preceding arguments are WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but I bolded the wording which I think applies to keeping the template. Without the template, different pages which carry the same information could list different things without the upkeep, confusing readers and the template allows the pages to keep consistent formatting. Llammakey (talk) 14:07, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
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Module:Location map/data/East and Southeast Asia

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The result of the discussion was delete all but Hiiraan as it became transcluded. Izno (talk) 17:48, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused location map modules. If any is used during this TfD, let me know and I'll strike them out. Gonnym (talk) 16:55, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Speedy delete unused subpages. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 07:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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Template:Mumbai Metro Infobox station line

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:46, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Template marked as deprecated as the related infobox has changed. Only two draft transclusions left. Gonnym (talk) 16:31, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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Template:MTR Infobox station line

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:42, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Template marked as deprecated as the related infobox has changed. Only one sandbox transclusion left. Gonnym (talk) 16:30, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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Module:TemplateDataGenerator

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 December 4. (non-admin closure) =JaventheAldericky= (Would you like to talk to me?) 03:24, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

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Template:History of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 December 4. (non-admin closure) =JaventheAldericky= (Would you like to talk to me?) 03:24, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

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Template:Philippines collaboration

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:40, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused template for a process marked historical 18 years ago. Gonnym (talk) 13:01, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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Template:Joseph Aoun

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:40, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused sidebar template. Seems to have been made unused after this edit, but if it was really only used here, then it should be deleted anyways for failing WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. Gonnym (talk) 12:58, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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Template:Kumbh Mela locations

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:40, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused after this edit. Gonnym (talk) 12:56, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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Template:Latest stable software release/Microsoft Power BI

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The result of the discussion was keep. Izno (talk) 17:40, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused software release template. Gonnym (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

Became unused after . It is now being transcluded again. ―Eduardogobi (talk) 13:50, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
Good catch. Withdraw nomination. Gonnym (talk) 16:32, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
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Template:Latest preview software release/baudline

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused software release templates. Gonnym (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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Template:Attached KML/M-132 (Michigan highway)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused as the pages these were used on where redirected. Gonnym (talk) 12:51, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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Template:Bay Area Panthers seasons

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Unused as none of the season links have articles. Gonnym (talk) 12:37, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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2026 Men's T20 World Cup standings

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:2026 Men's T20 World Cup Group A, Template:2026 Men's T20 World Cup Group B, Template:2026 Men's T20 World Cup Group C and Template:2026 Men's T20 World Cup Group D with Template:2026 Men's T20 World Cup standings.
Redundant templates, as all of these templates will have the same single source from ESPN and they belong to the same tournament, so I believe they can be merged into a single template with different sections for each group. Moreover, the Template:2026 Men's T20 World Cup standings was created much before and the four seperate group templates is clear case of WP:REDUNDANTFORKS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cric editor (talk • contribs) 08:32, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete I would go further, and merge the tables directly into 2026 Men's T20 World Cup and use section transclusion on any other pages that may require these tables. At present no other articles use any of these templates, so they are all redundant and just obfuscating article content behind templates. Spike 'em (talk) 10:15, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete all: I agree with Spike 'em's rationale here. Vestrian24Bio 10:40, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
Subst and delete per Spike 'em. These are similar to the cleanup done by User:Frietjes over the past few years. Gonnym (talk) 12:41, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
Delete all or merge them to standing template. Goodknowme (talk) 16:30, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox premier of Victoria

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Used only on one article. Subst usage on article. No other infobox like this exists and has only one primary purpose. And the formatting of this template uses Template:Infobox official post. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:55, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete per nomination Ultraodan (T, C) 04:06, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
Delete - Inappropriate use of a template. Subst and delete. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:15, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
Subst and delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 12:38, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
  • delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 03:39, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Victorian government

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 December 2. Izno (talk) 17:37, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

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Template:IrelandRMArchive

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 December 2. Izno (talk) 17:51, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

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