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As with {{Account creator}} (TFD nomination), I fail to see the point in this series of templates which insert a wikilink to a fixed page. Subst and delete. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 23:51, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Subst and delete per nom. The other nomination hasn't any comments so it doesn't look like there is anything special about these links. Gonnym (talk) 07:00, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Rugby lineup

Seems to have only been used for a demonstration on a talk page. It should either (a) be used or (b) moved to draft/userspace for further development Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:22, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Delete (without moving to userspace unless the user specially requests it). 3 years stale. Gonnym (talk) 07:01, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
Move to userspace — I'm specifically requesting it. I still intend to work on completing this in the near- or mid-future now that the editors that had been harassing me on Rugby-related articles have since been banned or are no longer active—I'd feel a lot safer pursuing this today compared to three or so years ago. — AFC Vixen 🦊 00:45, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox tribe

Propose merging Template:Infobox tribe with Template:Infobox ethnic group.
WP:INFOCOL. At the first, this may seem unreasonable. However, a merge could be considered.

One may wish to consider how Template:Infobox family works fine referring to a multitude of different types of families, whether royal, aristocratic, consort-related, business/activity-related etc., including larger and small branches, etc.

Just as many ethnic groups are understood as being part of larger ethnic groups, many which are customarly referred to as tribes can also be understood as ethnic groups within ethnic groups. Especially in the case of former, historical tribes, many if not most are indistinguishable from ethnic groups, or at least subject to the same variables. Compare migration periods. For those that don't apply to the aforementioned, perhaps the variables of Template:Infobox family or possbly Template:Infobox clan would help better backend.

All in all, letting go of the infobox for tribes doesn't mean ignoring the term or its scope or definition as such any less than in the above case of the varying scopes of Template:Infobox family. In fact with more variables offered in Template:Infobox ethnic group, the opposite effect could be said to apply. Only that for technical reasons its relevant variables (including its present two infobox-specific nisba, varna) should arguably be able to fall into those of either Template:Infobox ethnic group, Template:Infobox family or, least likely (backend technically) Template:Infobox clan? PPEMES (talk) 17:09, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:EU military personnel

unused after I merged it with the parent article with attribution Frietjes (talk) 16:23, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Delete as unused. Gonnym (talk) 07:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox archaeological culture

Propose merging Template:Infobox archaeological culture with Template:Infobox ethnic group.
The vast majority of ethnic groups are historical. The vast majority of historical ethnic groups are, at best, archeological. All variables relevant in Template:Infobox ethnic group are arguably, insofar as available, as relevant to historical, including archeological, as to existing ethnic groups. The few historical variables which may not be relevant to existing ethnic groups could simply be left out in those cases, and the other way around. In the cases of "archeological culture" where the variables of Template:Infobox ethnic group could not reasonably apply, Template:Infobox historic site should be able to offer a solution (even more so after the merge of Template:Infobox ancient site with the latter has been completed). PPEMES (talk) 15:43, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose I don't think these are really the same thing. The idea that archaeological cultures correspond to what in modern times are called ethnicities is unsubstantiated, and merging these templates would likely cause confusion. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:24, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Oppose The infoboxes have very little in common, because these are two very different things. As Hemiauchenia says, interpreting archaeological cultures as ethnicities is very dubious. "Pots are not people", as they say. Kanguole 23:06, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Oppose Same reasons as everyone else The Hsinging Tree (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox religion

Propose merging Template:Infobox religion with Template:Infobox religious group.
WP:INFOCOL. Not evident whether this way or the other way around. However, Template:Infobox religion merging with Template:Infobox religious group seems a bit more useful. PPEMES (talk) 15:21, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose, strongest possible oppose, totally, utterly different set of parameters and usage purposes. Religious group is for articles like Sikhs, Buddhists, groups of people who adhere to the religion, like ethnicities, while religion is for a specific history, not people. There is near-0 parameter overlap despite similar names. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:48, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox ethnonym

Propose merging Template:Infobox ethnonym with Template:Infobox ethnic group.
WP:INFOCOL. Essentially three variables (in one) more relevantly presented in the full overview of the destination template. PPEMES (talk) 15:18, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose, totally different purpose. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:59, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Oppose. The similarity of the name is coincidental. This is about language, not ethnicity. — kwami (talk) 21:34, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Population frequency

Propose merging Template:Population frequency with Template:Infobox demographics.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 15:15, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • replace the {{population frequency}} template with a simple table and then delete it. it is only used two times, so there is no need for a merger. Frietjes (talk) 15:42, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
    here and here are examples of a simple table (revert these two if this closes as keep). Frietjes (talk) 15:56, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete Template:Population frequency, rarely used. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:43, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Japanese clan

Propose merging Template:Infobox Japanese clan/docTemplate:Infobox Japanese clan with Template:Infobox clan.
WP:INFOCOL. Destination template should be able to offer all relevant variables. PPEMES (talk) 15:11, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

My mistake. Propose merging Template:Infobox Japanese clan with Template:Infobox clan. Thank you. PPEMES (talk) 15:49, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Corrected the nomination above. --Gonnym (talk) 18:01, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:SL Census population

Propose merging Template:SL Census population with Template:Infobox demographics.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • oppose, two different purposes. one is for the evolution of the population over time, while the other is for the breakdown of the current population by groups. I could see merging {{SL Census population}} with {{historical populations}} as those have the exact same purpose, but not this merger. Frietjes (talk) 15:58, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Do not merge, this makes no sense. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:44, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox census

Propose merging Template:Infobox census with Template:Infobox demographics.
WP:INFOCOL. Accounts of census missing from destination template. Census information could well be merged as variable. PPEMES (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • Comment, unless I am missing something, I don't see any parameters in common between these two infoboxes, so it's not clear what benefit there is from merging them. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:46, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Population table

Propose merging Template:Population table with Template:Infobox demographics.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 15:04, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • oppose, one generates the rows of a table and the other is an infobox. this makes zero sense. Frietjes (talk) 15:59, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • do not merge per Frietjes, this makes no sense. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:42, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Historical populations

Propose merging Template:Historical populations with Template:Infobox demographics.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 15:03, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • oppose, two different purposes. one is for the evolution of the population over time, while the other is for the breakdown of the current population by groups. I could see merging {{historical populations}} with {{demography}} as those have the exact same purpose, but not this merger. Frietjes (talk) 15:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • do not merge per Frietjes, this makes no sense. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:41, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose. Per above, absolute nonsense. Would also ruin the structure of thousands of pages. Frijfuhs (talk) 23:31, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Oppose curious why you think INFOCOL applies here?
Czarking0 (talk) 16:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Demography

Propose merging Template:Demography with Template:Infobox demographics.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 15:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • oppose, two different purposes. one is for the evolution of the population over time, while the other is for the breakdown of the current population by groups. I could see merging {{historical populations}} with {{demography}} as those have the exact same purpose, but not this merger. Frietjes (talk) 15:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • do not merge per Frietjes, this makes no sense. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:41, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Semitic letter

Propose merging Template:Infobox Semitic letter with Template:Infobox grapheme.
WP:INFOCOL. Merged variables could possibly be relevant for destination template as well. PPEMES (talk) 15:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose, the layouts are incredibly different and it would be quite difficult to cleanly reconcile them. ~ oklopfer (💬) 16:28, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
See my comment in #Template:Infobox rune comparing. ~ oklopfer (💬) 16:57, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Oppose. The Semitic letter infobox is not for a single grapheme, it's actually about a whole family of letters from related scripts. Infobox grapheme is for a single character. It is wholly unsuitable for merger. VanIsaac, GHTV contrabout 17:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)`
@ ~2026-33305-11 (talk) 10:27, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Hanacaraka

Propose merging Template:Infobox Hanacaraka with Template:Infobox writing system.
WP:INFOCOL (Template:Infobox grapheme doesn't seem to apply). PPEMES (talk) 14:58, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Merge with {{Infobox grapheme}}; these serve the same purpose and we don't need a redundant infobox for a specific writing system. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 19:55, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox hieroglyphs

Propose merging Template:Infobox hieroglyphs with Template:Infobox grapheme.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 14:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose, same objection as for Semitic letter: the layouts are incredibly different and it would be quite difficult to cleanly reconcile them. ~ oklopfer (💬) 16:28, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Note: I think there also might be some confusion with {{Infobox hieroglyphs}} vs {{Hiero}}. Compare Nefertiti (ibox hieroglyphs) vs Land, irrigated (hieroglyph) (hiero). If anything, I think these two should've been proposed for merging, rather than one of them to grapheme. ~ oklopfer (💬) 16:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
I would support merging Template:Hiero with Template:Infobox grapheme. PPEMES (talk) 17:17, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Oppose. This infobox has mothing to do with the grapheme. I do, however, support a merger with {{Hiero}} as the two are sufficiently similar. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 19:17, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
oppose Alty of Steel (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox rune

Propose merging Template:Infobox rune with Template:Infobox grapheme.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 14:52, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Oppose, same objections as I left for the other proposals above: the layouts are incredibly different and it would be quite difficult to cleanly reconcile them; I don't think INFOCOL applies here, as they aren't really that similar at all. Compare the following:
These are all vastly different, and I don't see how merging them together would be beneficial. See also my comment in #Template:Infobox hieroglyphs about yet another template. ~ oklopfer (💬) 16:56, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox proto-language

Propose merging Template:Infobox proto-language with Template:Infobox language family.
WP:INFOCOL. Analogous to merged Template:Infobox dialect. PPEMES (talk) 14:48, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • Oppose merge for same reasons as in other TfD. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 14:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
    I would, however, support a merge into Template:Infobox language more than this nomination. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 14:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
    I would support merging with {{Infobox language}} as an alternative. PPEMES (talk) 15:50, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
    to clarify I don't support this merge either, I would however pick this option of I had to choose 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 19:54, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Oppose as in the previous discussion: attested languages and reconstructions are very different things, and conflating them is likely to produce confusing messes. It would be nonsensical to supply values for both {{{target}}} and any of the dozens of parameters unique to {{Infobox language}}. Although both infoboxes have {{{ancestorN}}} parameters, the semantics attached to them is quite different (as suggested by the different labels). Kanguole 15:29, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Oppose merge. It will be very confusing for editors to know which parameter to use, especially since Template:Infobox language family is very different. ङघिञ (talk) 10:07, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox language family

Propose merging Template:Infobox language family with Template:Infobox language.
WP:INFOCOL, analogous to merged Template:Infobox dialect. PPEMES (talk) 14:47, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • Oppose merge. Language families and languages are not the same, require different parameters, and should not be consolidated. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 14:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Oppose. We have established language families both from modern era and ancient times, like Indo-European, Sino-Tibetan, Mongolic, Turkic, and Dravidian, as well as isolate languages from both epochs. One is not the same as the other. KHR FolkMyth (talk) 00:22, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
    Sorry, I'm not following. Why do you bring up "modern era and ancient times" and isolates? What are you referring to by "one" and "the other"? — W.andrea (talk) 16:45, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
    In that Indo-European and the aboce cited language families have languages from ancient times and modern times; thus merging the family language infobox with the language infobox, which serves to individual languages, like the language isolates, is a mistake, IMO. KHR FolkMyth (talk) 17:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
Oppose merge. Same reason as Kepler-1229b. ङघिञ (talk) 10:04, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Video game industry/Market

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:24, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • Delete, the chart was used on Video game industry but replaced using commons data and the chart extension. Masem (t) 11:36, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Taiwanese identity chart

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:23, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Societates Europaeae

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:23, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Philippine Senate timeline

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:21, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Philippine House timeline

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Parameter/styles.css

Unused style page. Gonnym (talk) 09:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Opinion polling for the 2021 Senedd election Regional vote

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Opinion polling for the 2021 Senedd election Constituency vote

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Opinion polling for the 2021 Czech legislative election

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:25, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Opinion polling for the 2021 California gubernatorial recall election

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Number of executive orders signed by Joe Biden

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:15, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Number of executive orders signed by Barack Obama

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:15, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Masters France tournaments

Unused navigation template after pages were redirected. Gonnym (talk) 09:15, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Markov constant chart

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was speedy delete per author approval Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:24, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:13, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete. I created the template in 2020 from a chart in the infobox of Markov constant. Using a template was a good way to not swamp the article with all the data. And there was a lot of data. Now the data is at Commons:Data:Markov_constant_chart.tab and the article points to the data there, so we don't need a template. Yaris678 (talk) 21:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:London Underground patronage by line

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Historical census population in Zambia

Unused table. Gonnym (talk) 09:11, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Financial performance of Airbus SE

Unused chart. Gonnym (talk) 09:11, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  • delete after the migration to commons data and the chart extension, this became a trivial template which I merged with the parent article (with attribution) so it can now be deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:26, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:City of Edinburgh

Unused sidebar. Gonnym (talk) 09:09, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Template:Years in tennis

Redundant to templates in the Template:YEAR in tennis category. 8rz (talk) 01:16, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm unclear what you did. Why did you add years to Template:1880 in tennis (which is not what the template is for), and nominate this, which is what the template is for? What is this template redundant to? Gonnym (talk) 07:17, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Please revert your entire edit history related to this as it is very much controversial and incorrect. Gonnym (talk) 07:18, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
I merged {{Years in tennis}} to all the templates starting with "Year in tennis" in the aforementioned category and per
the one-sided proposal without any objection, I went forward with the merger and am now nominating this template for deletion. 8rz (talk) 11:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

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