Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/East Asia

Description

This project would cover East Asia, one of the few regions of the world without a supranational coordination project. It would cover East Asian culture and civilization, transnational issues, relations between nations, historical nations of the area which are no longer extant. As there seem to be disputes between editors at WP:CHINA, WP:JAPAN, WP:KOREA, WP:VIETNAM, WP:TAIWAN on which article falls under whose wikiprojects' purview, this can also help with editors' animosities. The region covered under the project would be the Russian Far East, parts of the Empire of China ceded by the Qing dynasty to Russia outside of the Russian Far East, Korea, Japan, China, Mongolia, Tibet, Ryu Kyu, Karafuto/Sahkalin/Kuril, Taiwan, Hainan, Tonkin Basin of Vietnam/Ancient Annam, Kokang/Shan Plateau , East China Sea , Sea of Japan , South China Sea , Sea of Okhotsk , Gulf of Tonkin 76.66.193.224 (talk) 08:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Support

Please specify whether or not you would join the project.

1. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 08:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
2. Not likely to join, but this is certainly sustainable. Matthewedwards :  Chat  16:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
3. Definitely sustainable and of particular value. There is a similar WikiProject on the Chinese Wikipedia at zh:维基百科:漢字文化圈專題. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 10:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
4. This can definitely be a useful space to discuss East Asian regional topics. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 13:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
5. Long overdue. There are articles related to this sphere such as East Asia Summit and East Asian Community. The world's biggest emerging market China and also the (formerly) world's second biggest economy Japan is in this region, so its coverage is essential. Takamaxa (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
6. Very long overdue and ties in with the proposal for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Asia - which would be a cover/parent project SatuSuro 13:55, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
7. I would be an interested and likely active participant, and as this is my field of academic study, I can bring in resources and expertise. Sven Manguard _Talk 23:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Mongolia is already covered by WikiProject Central Asia. Yaan (talk) 09:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

True, though Mongolia is also part of East Asia, and this proposal deals with issues in East Asia. Central Asia wikiproject would not necessarily deal that easily with the Russian/Chinese/Japanese confluence of influences on Mongolia in WWII, for instance; or Mongolian conquest of Manchuria. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 03:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Would you prefer to take Mongolia out of scope? I don't really see a problem with overlapping scopes. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 04:56, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I guess you are right about overlapping scopes. Maybe I just felt a bit argumentative. Yaan (talk) 16:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Similarly, Vietnam is also covered by WikiProject Southeast Asia. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 18:50, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

True, though Vietnam is also part of East Asia, and this proposal deals with issues in East Asia. Further, CJKV shows the interrelationship between Vietnam and China/Korea/Japan. The scope is also restricted to northern Vietnam, the central highlands anc coast and southern delta are not covered. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 03:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Would you prefer to take Vietnam out of scope? I don't really see a problem with overlapping scopes; and one of the conflicts I've noticed is between Vietanamese and other East Asian editors who remove each other's WikiProject banners, because one thinks a topic is Vietnamese and not Chinese or Japanese, and vice versa. (Per the notice between CJKV,Taiwan - and nationalistic conflicts on whether banners of each project should exist or not on an article) 76.66.193.224 (talk) 04:56, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not particularly for or against; I guess I was just noting the overlap as Yaan was, above. I think the East Asia WikiProject seems like a fine idea that would probably be quite beneficial to WP:CJKV; my own personal focus, though, is primarily within Southeast Asia, so I can't really say I could support this WikiProject in anything other than well-wishes. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 15:52, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

There doesn't need to be any clear lines of demarcation here. It can be decided on a case-by-case basis whether or not an article should be supported by this WikiProject. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 13:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Already WikiProject Southeast Asia exists - so any of the boundary issues can be worked out with that relatively quiet project anyways - currently Vietnam and Philippines are countries included in the Southeast Asia project - assuming that anything north of eiher is in the eastern asia project - unless negotiated SatuSuro 13:58, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

It's redlinked. Matthewedwards :  Chat  15:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Think you mean Wikipedia:WikiProject Southeast Asia. Matthewedwards :  Chat  06:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

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