Wikipedia talk:Notability (books)

I've opened a discussion about whether or not AudioFile can still be considered a reliable sources here at the reliable sources noticeboard. Basic gist is that there's evidence that the magazine used a pay-to-play model in the past for indie publishers. These reviews are not clearly marked, so there's concern about that as well. It's unclear if they are going to continue this model now that it has been acquired by Kirkus. My hope is that if they do, that they will clearly mark them ala Kirkus Indie. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 13:02, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

What authors has NBOOK5 generally been held to apply to? I recently edited Gideon Planish by Sinclair Lewis and saw that an attempt was made to redirect it to the author as non-notable (it passes NBOOK1 regardless), but if the two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning Nobel laureate doesn't count, who does?

Why does this guideline not apply to graphic novels and comics but does apply to manga? I just don't see how they are inherently different at all. I could maybe understand treating works without one cohesive creative team as different from those that do, but not all manga have one continuous creative team and not all comics have multiple.

I'd also be interested to see any AfD's where NBOOK3 was successfully used, although that's a bit more selfish to see if William Hope Harvey's second and third most famous works are notable. 1brianm7 (talk) 14:42, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

@1brianm7 That redirection was ill informed and should not have been done - Sinclair Lewis would definitely be an NBOOK #3 case.

I can't remember where I've seen it applied, but I have seen it applied. I think on Philip K. Dick. IMO it is mostly to save us time for cases where there are obviously reviews somewhere - and cases where a book does not have 2 reviews but where there is so much scholarship on the author you can certainly write an article on any book they've written from the volumes of scholarship about the author (I've seen this in the case of Philip K. Dick), which is something that happens sometimes. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:10, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

And on manga, I dunno. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:10, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

For future reference, I decided to go trawling through the archives and apparently the reasoning was that comics editors didn't want it to, and manga editors did (2009 link). There's slightly more reasoning, such as worries that'd we get "Uncanny X-Men #137", "The Dark Phoenix Saga (story arc)", and "The Dark Phoenix Saga (trade paperback)" as individual articles. Also some mention of the cultural differences I alluded to. But the editors not wanting it to apply seems to be the bulk of the reasoning. 1brianm7 (talk) 23:10, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

Criteria #1 is regularly applied, as is #2, I've seen #5 a reasonable amount, seen #4 once or twice. What exactly does a passage of #3 of this guideline look like? PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:31, 14 August 2026 (UTC)