Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics/Archive 61

Is this Sigra, Varanasi administratively different region or just a locality within Varanasi? Its categorized as Category:Cities and towns in Varanasi district but is described as "downtown area". If its just a locality, it should be redirected to Varanasi as I can't find any non-trivial mentions in RS. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:55, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

@Dharmadhyaksha: Gogole map shows it is a part of Varanasi.--Vin09 (talk) 09:24, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

 Done redirected. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:28, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

AshLin (talk) 13:44, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Indian contributors. I would like to know if Bollywood Hungama (bollywoodhungama.com) is a reliable source ? — Sanskari ^Hangout 15:21, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Context matters, but you should check out the archives of WP:RSN and post a specific query there. —SpacemanSpiff 15:33, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

I am talking about these links -

• http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/musicreview/14262/index.html
• http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/features/type/view/id/1746/

Are these reliable ? — Sanskari ^Hangout 15:39, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

The nomination piece seems ok, but for what purpose? If there's something that's notable it'd be covered by ToI or HT which have a fondness for film awards and this Apsara one doesn't seem to pass muster on that count. As for the billing of Kaise Kaise Rishte, I think it's ok for a non-controversial sourcing, but it's not a contributor to notability. Most of BH should be treated the same way as imdb. —SpacemanSpiff 15:43, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

I am asking for your participation in Talk:Brahma Kumaris#RFC for adding the word "Cult" Supdiop (T🔹C) 16:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

I was wondering if anyone could help me find sourcing for the article Ikka Singh. I'm finding some news hits that give an assertion of notability, but there's a bit of difficulty with searching because the guy's stage name comes up with a lot of different things (Ikka). I'm just hoping that one of you will be familiar with the guy's work and can help provide names of albums or songs or other things that can make searching easier. I'm using the WP's search engine, but it's still slow going. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:26, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

@Tokyogirl79: I looked at this and the other articles by the editor, including one about a sound engineer, I don't think there's much of a body of work for anyone to be familiar with. As you've found, the coverage is mostly of name mentions in the context of others. —SpacemanSpiff 05:33, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

• @SpacemanSpiff: What's your take on his notability? He's been on some soundtracks, but I'm not sure if that's really enough for notability guidelines. I'm mildly tempted to take it to AfD and let them sort it out, but I'd like some other opinions before doing that. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:35, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I'd say he hasn't established himself enough to pass our notability test, and I think he might agree too: "...Ikka, feels there's still some time before B-Town accepts rap."—SpacemanSpiff 05:39, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I need some help with the article Sekhauliya. It looks like this is a village and I'm asking the article creator (Amit V Pandey) if it's recognized by the government, which should make it pass notability guidelines, but I get the strong impression that there's a language barrier here. English does not appear to be his first language and the content is somewhat garbled, so I'd greatly appreciate it if someone who speaks Hindi (which I believe is his native language) could stop in and provide some help. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I suspect this is the Gram Panchayat referred. I haven't been able to find anything about this village in particular. The Census listing isn't working for me now, perhaps you'll have better luck. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:21, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

@Tokyogirl79: Was wrong, it's here in Uttar Pradesh, not in the Haryana gram panchayat of the same name. That file has the population data (page 128) and using that you might be able to grab coords, that's about all I can do now. The category for this would be Category:Villages in Ambedkar Nagar district. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:26, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

• Is it officially recognized? I'm not terribly familiar with how they go about this - if it's on a census it's legally recognized? Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Census inclusion is official recognition as a village, the transliteration spelling seems to vary, so you probably want to try multiple variations in your searches. It's a village with a population of 353, roughly 50.5 times the size of Chicken, Alaska, so I wouldn't worry about notability in this case. The 2011 census tables if you can actually not time out of the site and get them are pretty good as there's a lot of data made available in one shot. You can use page 128-9 as a source for population, m-f ratio, literacy rates, SC-ST population, no of households, and area; this wasn't the case with earlier census tables so it may be helpful for village article clean ups in general. —SpacemanSpiff 07:38, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello! I'm here to request contributions to Timeline of Delhi. Many cities have timeline articles, and we should have some for Indian places as well. Aryamanarora^{talk, contribs} 23:26, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Is Beerwah, Kashmir a split of Beerwah, Jammu and Kashmir. Or is a bit more dab like Beerwah, subdistrict needed? 220 of ^Borg

The former should be redirected to the latter as it's an incorrect title and we also don't cover sub-districts and gram panchayats separately. They are nothing more than simple administrative constructs that are headquartered in the largest town/village and are grouped as such for the purpose of sharing administrative headcount and resources. —SpacemanSpiff 03:48, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Done! . 220 of ^Borg 05:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Can somebody who can read Hindi please look at this (and perhaps other recent edits to Pramada Charan Banerjee)? In this edit alone, various alternative spellings disappear, and it seems that the name Pramada is given in Devanagari script. (Unfortunately I cannot read Devanagari script at all. My bad.) The new addition is highlighted via (((triplex parentheses))). That the reader is provided with Devanagari script is good -- but why only for this one part of the biographee's name, and is the script really so very intricate? Something looks fishy to me. -- Hoary (talk) 07:34, 6 October 2015 (UTC) Strikeout Hoary (talk) 08:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

SpacemanSpiff has kindly attended to this one edit, incidentally drawing my attention to Wikipedia:WikiProject India#Indic scripts in lead (which I can summarize in one word: "Don't").

The history of the article is curious. From the start: "Before his joining Sir Pramada Charan Banerjee Hostel was established in 1916 in honor of Sir Pramada Charan Banerjee. This is one of the prominent hostel of the University of Allahabad". Then a massive infusion of copyvio, then removal of same, then heroic improvement by Sitush (at the end of which, no mention of this "prominent hostel" remained), and just recently a reintroduction of material on this hostel. -- Hoary (talk) 08:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Got distracted with something else to reply here. I didn't realize that your friend is still actively editing though. Hostels are Dharmadhyaksha's specialty as you can see from the recent history of WP:DSI, so he can probably go through Allahabad University's hostels too. —SpacemanSpiff 08:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Lolz! Hostel-expert. So I have under my expert-ship two articles of Youth Hostels Association of India and Nariman House and that's about it. All hostels would be non-notable by default until I certify them otherwise. Jokes apart but I seriously can't think of any Indian hostels which would meet WP:GEOFEAT. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

And in case the spelling of Surnames are taking too much of lead-space, how about a foot note or link to Banerjee? Same with Mukherjee, Chatterjee, etc. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

That's not what the script was trying to do here, the ed was inserting his own version of the etymology of "Pramada Charan". —SpacemanSpiff 05:59, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The reason I included so many variant spellings in the lead was because it impacted greatly on the search results when I was trying to source what was a very poor article: a part of the problem of sourcing was the sheer volume of permutations of his name. I agree that it makes for a convoluted opening section and that it certainly could be relegated to a footnote but I have no particular opinion regarding whether it should be. - Sitush (talk) 07:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

• bharatdiscovery.org/: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • blacklist hits • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

is a user submitted content site that also mirrors some stuff from hi.wiki etc and then gets added on here as a source. I stumbled across this during a COIN investigation and found that the editing group had created hi/mr articles which were copied over to this site and used as sources in the en articles! —SpacemanSpiff 17:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Removed it from all the enwiki articles. Still present on hiwiki; will leave a note there. utcursch | talk 16:06, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Barwa Barauli and Barwa village seem to be the same topic as Barwa, Bihar,

• All state:"Barwa is a village in West Champaran district in the Indian state of Bihar."
• All at Coordinates: 27.108°N 84.464°E
• Demographics are different.

And all created quite deliberately within a short period by a reputable editor, (ping!) Anupmehra. 220 of ^Borg 00:55, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

All 3 are different villages. There are 16 villages named Barwa in the West Champaran district, and six more which have "Barwa" as the first part of their name (including Barwa Barauli).

The coordinates in all the 3 articles were wrong. I searched for the correct coordinates based on census codes, and updated the articles. Also made other fixes, including article names (accessible from Barwa).

utcursch | talk 15:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks, Utcursch. I felt something like that might have happened. Sometimes 'noob' editors create multi-pages on on topic, being unaware of redirects and page moves, but I didn't think Anupmehra would have.

I added Barwa Barauli to the Barwa dab page, I hope that is correct? I was as confused about the other new entries there not appearing, until I saw they were commented out. 220 of ^Borg 00:10, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Seems good! utcursch | talk 00:26, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, kindly keep Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Requested articles on your watchlist and help to create articles mentioned there, you can also suggest new articles to create. Those who are interested in biographical articles can have look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Padma. Hundreds of Padma awardees still doesn't have article. Thank you. --Human3015^TALK  02:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Specially those who are interested in increasing their DYK count very easily then making articles on Padma awardees can be a better option. They have done some extra-ordinary work so it always makes DYK hook interesting, I have created article on 5-6 padma awardees recently and nominated 2 of them for DYK and both of them got green signal instantly and may feature at DYK anytime. So it will be nice thing to look for Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Padma. --Human3015^TALK  04:13, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

India's blockade of Nepal, 2015--Zaalim (talk) 03:16, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

An unsourced, one-sided article. Have redirected it to 2015 Nepal fuel crisis. Can anyone create 2015 Nepal protests? The Nepali government, Maoist political parities and media have accused India of supporting (or even triggering) the protests, so the topic is related to India. utcursch | talk 00:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

• What spelling should be used for Kutchi language#Spelling of language name?
• Also, the article has a list of speakers of Katchi, but most articles do not say that they are speakers of Katchi. Would someone take a look at this?
• The article seems to have been spammed. I removed some, perhaps too much. Some of the other links seem to have a lot of advertising.

Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

The current spelling seems to be just fine: replied at Talk:Kutchi language#Spelling_of_language_name. The anon is being unnecessarily pesky. utcursch | talk 21:36, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

You can keep 2014–15 India–Pakistan border skirmishes on your watchlist. Factual errors and POV pushing are common problems. --Human3015^TALK  04:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

A merger discussion regarding Mrs Funnybones and Twinkle Khanna is going on here. A detailed discussion is required. Thanks,--Skr15081997 (talk) 13:36, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

I am proposing that (i) the reporting of the latest genetics research of Indian populations be limited to the page on Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia and that (ii) this page be indefinitely semi-protected. No other page on Indian populations should use primary sources on genetic research.

Rationale: The research into the genetic analysis of Indian populations is moving at a rapid pace and many new results are becoming available. However, the field is fluid, the available literature is mostly primary, and its interpretation and verification is difficult. WP:NOR advises us that Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources. WP:USEPRIMARY further clarifies that In science, data is primary, and the first publication of any idea or experimental result is always a primary source. At present, we have had such primary sources being used in Indo-Aryan peoples, Dravidian peoples, Adivasi and perhaps other pages. Often the same text is copied from one page to another. A number of unregistered users with dynamic IP addresses have been involved in the creation of this content, and they have left no reasonable edit summaries and showed no participation in talk page discussions. Limiting this content to Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia will ensure that it will be reviewed by editors knowledgeable about the subject and we do not have questionable claims being propagated throughout Indian population pages. - Kautilya3 (talk) 19:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest 2015 is going to be conducted between 15 - 17 December in Delhi. There is one open slot from Indian English Wikipedians. Please nominate yourself there if you think that you are eligible. I don't think I'll go, if you want me to nominate your name, feel free to ask me.

Page: meta:CIS-A2K/Events/2015/Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest

PS. (As I found it a common question, when I was inviting others for other events): Yes, travel and accommodation will be arranged. --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Dear India experts: Here's another village draft article that could use some attention. I found some census information and a couple of other references. It seems the Gaighat spelling is more common.—Anne Delong (talk) 02:57, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello! @Anne Delong: Gayghat have several alternative spelling which includes Gayghat, Gaighat, Gāya Ghāṭa etc. The most suitable is the Gayghat which mean Cow pier. — Sanskari ^Hangout 18:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

There's currently an AfD discussion for the song Khamoshiyan (song) going on here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khamoshiyan (song). According to WP:NSONG, a song qualifies as notable if it charts on a qualifying WP:CHART, and the song has charted on a Radio Mirchi chart. Unfortunately no Indian charts are listed on the page, either positively or negatively. When I search Google for Indian music charts, Radio Mirchi Top 20 is one of the first results, which leads me to believe it is considered important (not a perfect metric though). However, I can't seem to find information on whether Radio Mirchi should qualify under WP:CHART. Does anyone know more about it, and whether it's comparable to the American Billboard chart, for example? mikeman67 (talk) 14:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

@Mikeman67: There is no Billboard kind chart for Indian music. Radio Mirchi is one of leading FM Radio channel and famous in metros of India. Radio Mirchi chart can be considered as standard for Bollywood songs. --Human3015^TALK  18:03, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Actually no. It fails #2 of the criteria as it is a single network airplay chart. —SpacemanSpiff 18:27, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

So in short we can't make articles on Indian songs. This must be discussed here. There should be some criteria for making articles on Indian songs. We can get numerous articles on non-award winning Indian songs, and most of Filmfare award and National award winning songs does not have articles. --Human3015^TALK  19:05, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

You can not make songs on Indian songs based on this chart. WP:NSONG has sufficient other criteria.—SpacemanSpiff 19:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Moreover song should pass WP:GNG. Enough and sustainable coverage in independent media. --Human3015^TALK  19:32, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

My comment has nothing to do with that particular (or any other) song's notability, it may be notable or it may not. Only the specific chart in question; though if anything passes GNG, the SNGs are really irrelevant. cheers —SpacemanSpiff 15:19, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I had reverted an undiscussed move and suggested taking to RM (assuming that people would be interested in it), it's now been listed at RM and received no comment and relisted again. If you're interested in Category:Lists of colleges affiliated to universities in India, please do comment there, sadly our Education task force is inactive :) —SpacemanSpiff 14:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

We now have so many defunct task forces and sub projects that the problems outweigh the benefits, especially when new editors are interested in something and go to a dead talk page. I think we need to do the following:

1. List out all task forces and sub projects
2. Identify the ones that have the potential to have some tangible benefit
3. Consolidate duplicates and those with far too similar scope
4. Redirect all talk pages to this noticeboard so that questions, suggestions etc aren't left languishing in dead or dormant areas
5. Also, update {{WP India}} to reflect the list of consolidated projects and task forces

Thoughts? —SpacemanSpiff 07:56, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

• Another in-house maintenance work... Good! We need to start by hunting down all the sub-projects and taskforces. Please add as and when you find. Feel free to format for compactness. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

• • I've just hatted and move the list to the top of the section so that it doesn't occupy the full screen when people are looking at messages in this section. I've also left a note on the hat to add to the list. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Like the idea. Now we need to start checking them. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:41, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Starting from the first Wikipedia:WikiProject Andaman and Nicobar Islands, it doesn't have any talk discussion beyond the normal notifications. Members is two. Most of the pages are redlinks. The page doesn't seem to be developed beyond its draft stage. Shall I mark ones like these as fully inactive? ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:38, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

For such defunct wikiprojects we can mark them as fully inactive and in turn edit all related templates to redirect to Wikipedia:WikiProject Regions of India which should be a common house for all regions. Are North-Eastern state's and UT's WPs active? I doubt. Also, I have not listed all subgroups of main India project; some listed are "Academia task force", "Photography" etc. I am not sure if they are also going to be pruned over here. There are plenty of these. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I think listing cross-project collaboration would be useful. e.g. In the case of the Cinema task force, a lot of the guidelines are essentially developed by WP Film, not here. The way that is handled is also good, while it lists the stuff under the WP India banner, the talk page etc are under WP Film. I believe the same is the case with football. I think something similar should be done for Cricket etc etc as those are the projects that are subject matter experts in the respective areas. I would suggest we hold off on doing this one by one (like just AN) and do it in bulk for all states or UTs in one go so that we have a reasonable view of the positives and negatives. —SpacemanSpiff 07:08, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Appreciate any inputs at Talk:Dada Lekhraj#Birth_year. utcursch | talk 15:42, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi there. I have been copyediting Zahirabad and an ip keeps changing the spelling to Zaheerabad throughout the article. Does the title of the article need to be changed? Regards, MyrtleMyrtlegroggins (talk) 14:01, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, telangana.gov says "Zaheerabad, elections.in says "Zahirabad" and census.gov.in says "Zahirabad". So advantage Zahirabad I guess. We probably need to maintain that consistency in the article, but nobody will let it remain in the article; it will likely get changed again. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:10, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Moved discussion to Talk:Zahirabad#Spelling. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:20, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

I've created a new article on the organisation, Centre for Equality and Inclusion.

Centre for Equality and Inclusion is a non-governmental organisation based in India that works towards female empowerment and women's rights.

If you'd like to help with research or to improve the article's quality, source suggestions would be appreciated, at Talk:Centre for Equality and Inclusion.

Thank you,

— Cirt (talk) 14:50, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone help with wp:RS to confirm whether Sundarpur, Jiwachhghat and Sundarpur, Darbhanga, Bihar are one place or two, and to provide text to distinguish them if they are different? Both artices say "... is a village ... in Darbhanga district " but an editor says that one is an urban area and is therefore different from the other (unclear which). One has a source, one has coordinates. PamD 17:50, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

I used this site to try and find the villages but I only see one that is in Darbhanga, Bihar. I think we should merge Sundarpur, Jiwachhghat into Sundarpur, Darbhanga, Bihar and maybe move the latter to Sundarpur, Bihar. Filpro (talk) 18:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

The article Picnic (1966 film) is nominated for deletion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Picnic (1966 film). Editors are invited to comment and determine if there is significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that can show whether or not the film is notable enough for its own article on Wikipedia. Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:11, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Anand Bakshi is in "starring" section. Interesting. --Human3015^TALK  18:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone have a look at the article South West India? Sure the term can be found in several books, but most of them use it to cover Coastal South West India and neighbouring areas. On the other hand, the article South West India states that the term covers all the South Indian states + Maharashtra + Goa. utcursch | talk 00:16, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Isn't it an obvious hoax? Should be AfD's in my opinion. - Kautilya3 (talk) 08:35, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Southern India is a notable one, there's nothing like south west, south north. I support above comment.--Vin09 (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll PROD it. Will take it to AfD if PROD is declined. utcursch | talk 15:14, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

I also noticed Northwestern India. Filpro (talk) 02:03, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

Presently I am supporting relatively new article Ceremonial pole. I came across a little info about 'Sirimanu' at Sirimanothsavam#Procession & reffs seems to be available at google books too. I am bit confused if it is celebrated in Tamilnadu or Andhra or in both the states.

I suppose some one from south Indian background can do a better justice by including improving 'Sirimanu' related information along with references in article Sirimanothsavam#Procession and also in umbrella article Ceremonial pole.

Thanks and rgds.

Mahitgar (talk) 07:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Can any one check Rajiv Internet Village page. Only one newspaper article as reference.--Vin09 (talk) 12:36, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

I am trying to communicate with a new user, User:Dear sri sri 1008 pujya Dada pamma ram ji, who is writing in what I suspect to be one of the Indic languages. Could anyone here communicate with them, and give them a steer to how they might best contribute to Wikipedia? -- The Anome (talk) 19:34, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

This has probably been discussed before on this page, but not concluded in any way. Oct 14 and May 15 discussions. But there hasn't been much improvement in school-related lists of India. I hence propose the following:

1. All "List of schools in (city)", "List of (faculty) colleges in (city)" be merged and moved to "List of educational institutes in (city)", leaving redirects behind.
2. All small size "List of educational institutes in (city)" be merged and moved to "List of educational institutes in (state)", leaving redirects behind. (Note: "Small size" would be a variable term depending on actual page size in bytes as well as surfing feasibility. Case-by-case decisions will be taken here.)
3. All entries would be blue-linked strictly. Red-linked entries (no-liked also) with references (of good/bad quality) are not allowed. Please take some effort to start a stub by using good quality references and then enlist the institute.
4. Alphabetize the lists. Do not write any description, like address, phone number, founding year, rated-top-10-in-blah-blah-by-my-local-newspaper-with-500-prints-daily. Only possible description-type text can be of the city name (if the header is "other places") and former names if distinctly different.

Feel free to add more or suggest changes. If need be, we can later take this to RfC after good discussion has happened. I would also request vast number of editors to help in this mess-cleaning. I remember that tag-and-access was a very successful drive our group took few years back which also inspired other groups to follow our footprints. Let's encourage them as well with our Swachh Bharat-articles Abhiyan. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:31, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Pinging @Muhandes: for his expertise in handling University lists. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:34, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

This will be workable for smaller places but Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi etc etc will have to follow the current format to avoid WP:SIZE problems. Another point that I don't care one way or the other about, quite often AfDs for non-secondary schools etc close as "merge to list" or "merge to city/town", then it becomes imperative to include unlinked entries. —SpacemanSpiff 13:11, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

True. We will compromise that for larger metros. But I don't remember seeing any "merge to list/city/town" Afd recently. In case of entries which have good quality references like may be a newspaper entry of some event or so AfDs have recently also closed as Keep, especially given the now widespread WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Anyways, I don't mind non-linked entries in list. But these are usually backed by school's website itself or some forum type yellow pages website which list all schools of a region. In List of institutions of higher education in Delhi we have listed fake universities and we can't risk listing such fake institutes backed by such poor sources. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Palak Muchhal, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:53, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

The 1955 Bollywood film Ha Ha Hee Hee Ho Ho is nominated for deletion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ha Ha Hee Hee Ho Ho. Editors are invited to comment to determine if the film meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines or not. Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 15:55, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

So what does one do about stuff like this? I assume it is a real TV series (plenty of episodes on Dailymotion) but nothing on the page is verifiable. The list of writers, for example, has grown over the years and looks dubious. Perhaps remove everything except "was an Imagine TV series"? --regentspark (comment) 22:49, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

WP:TVSHOW is very lenient and everything aired on national-level channel is "generally" considered notable. If not for that, i would propose redirecting to List of programs broadcast by Imagine TV and mentioning 1-2 lines there. We have various COI editors on TV show article which promote shows of their channel as well as vandalize other articles. Few refs which might be useful . And you might find plenty more in TOI. Even if you add anything to the article, it might not stay there after few months. But give it a try... §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:45, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking more about subtraction rather than addition since almost nothing in the article is sourced. The genesis of all this is the addition of a writer to the list of writers by a now blocked promotional sock puppet. I have no clue whether she was a writer on the show or not but noticed that the number of writers keeps increasing. Do we know if they really were writers? Do we include minor writers or only the main ones? --regentspark (comment) 16:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Self-declared deletionist User:KDS4444 seems to be having a field day nominating older Indian films at Afd. One such recent Afd is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adil-E-Jahangir, a 1956-released directorial effort by G. P. Sippy, which is pretty much a textbook case of what we're not going to find online references for, per WP:IKI. I couldn't find much using the online search tools at WP:INDAFD, to be sure. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:39, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi wikipedians in Chennai ! Is anyone able to snap a photo of the Y R Gaitonde Centre for AIDS Research and Education please?

I would like to post it in the page of Suniti Solomon, the HIV researcher and activist who died this year.- I cannot find a free file for her portrait. please ping me if you reply ! thank you. --Wuerzele (talk) 09:44, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Need some editors opinion/comment on this content dispute. D4iNa4 (talk) 17:51, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Panamattom is a small village in Kerala with ~10K+ population and turns out that we have plenty usourced articles of Hindu temples in this village. I searched online and found no mentions of these in any WP:RS. Can someone with knowledge of regional languages try out and see if they are notable enough to stay?

• Kaniyanparambil Temple, Panamattom
• Kuzhikattu Temple, Panamattom
• Panamattom Devi Temple
• Vadakara Temple, Panamattom
• Veliyannur Ayyappa Temple, Panamattom

Kavummuri Temple, Panamattom seems to have been PRODed and deleted in January 2013. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:39, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

The article has many false sentences. Many questionable including its location and population.--Vin09 (talk) 07:25, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning the village article @Vin09:. What do you think about the temples? I can't find anything in English online sources. Plus they are all one-liners giving no hint of any notability or possibility vary search terms. Should they be PRODed? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:29, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes and also the village needs to be cleaned more.--Vin09 (talk) 08:45, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

PRODed all 5 now. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello all, I have added a peer review request on Haryana. It would be great if you can help me in this. Thanks -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 04:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone check for references Guttikonda_Bilam.--Vin09 (talk) 05:44, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I havenominated the Indian National Army article for FA. From recent experience with India House, the FAC stagnated after a while therefore I am posting a notice here for interested editors, your help and comments would be much appreciated to get this important article to FA status (even if this current nomination fails). Note I must declare, I am the major contributor to this article, so I must clarify this is not a canvassing attempt. Opinions and contributions sought rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 13:05, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Can someone help out on Talk:Gauthameswarar Temple, Kumbakonam, please? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:10, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done someone answered. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:14, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Comments needed for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greater Rayalaseema.--Vin09 (talk) 18:18, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello,
Currently at CIS-A2K, we are working on a handbook called "Indic Wikipedia Policies and Guidelines Handbook" where we are discussing a number of things such as: Creating new policies, Modifying existing ones; and to explain these we had to discuss Village Pump, Consensus etc. The book is in English, but we hope to translate and print the book in a few Indian languages.

Now,

a) We are eager to add your frequently asked questions on policies and guidelines, and discuss the difficulties you are facing to manage, enforce or deal with any policy on your Wikipedia.

For this reason, we are inviting you to ask questions or discuss things related to your Wikipedia's (WP:IND) policies and guidelines.

Selected questions or discussions will be published in our handbook and askers/participants will be given credits in the book.

and/or

b) We are also inviting you to preview the handbook and give your feedback to improve it.

Please fill this form if you want to join the survey. --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Rudravaram disambiguation page has many pages linked. Krishna district itself has many villages, so for those pages mandal needs to be mentioned or mandal and district both?--Vin09 (talk) 08:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

• Yes, we may use [Village name], [Mandal name] to disambiguate. --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:47, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear India experts: This old draft will soon be deleted as stale under db-g13. It would need a lot of work, and I have no idea if this is a notable subject or not. If yes, perhaps someone here can improve it. If not, just don't edit it and it will be deleted soon.—Anne Delong (talk) 11:11, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

This article has long been subject to a series of SPAs determined to restore puffery and delete any negative material, no matter how well sourced. I have just reverted the ministrations of two more , , but haven't got the time to keep the article on close watch. Voceditenore (talk) 12:22, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I will keep an eye. Thanks for the message Voceditenore. Yash! 16:49, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Yash!. SpacemanSpiff has now semi-protected the page which should make the job a bit easier, and several of the SPAs are now also listed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aarvig. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:00, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear India experts: This old draft will soon be deleted as stale. Is this a notable topic? It needs some reliable sources, but if this is a Hindi news source, the sources may not be in English.—Anne Delong (talk) 01:38, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Chandra dynasty to be moved to Candra_dynasty. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 05:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Anyone willing to work on Draft:Kolletikota? Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 21:20, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

I'll take care of it, give some time. Thanks.--Vin09 (talk) 04:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

@FoCuSandLeArN:  Done --Vin09 (talk) 08:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 11:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

As per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Icons#Avoid_ flag_icons_in_infoboxes it says flag icons should be avoided. But in the last para, it says Human geographic articles – for example settlements and administrative subdivisions – may have flags of the country and first-level administrative subdivision in infoboxes. So, for villages, towns and cities can we have FLAG ICONS or not?--Vin09 (talk) 13:13, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

There is a dispute ongoing at the Brahma page. A user has added material to the intro that belongs in the article body (where it is already mentioned) in this edit here. All attempts to persuade the editor to allow an edit has failed and there are the stirrings of an edit war. In accordance with wiki policy, it is important that any article's introductory paragraph give only a general overview of a topic and not selectively present viewpoints of specific schools or sects as this gives undue weight to those views. The debate and sources can be seen on the talk page Talk:Brahma#Disagree_with_last_edit here. The misplaced phrase in question is: "...is a Hindu deity who functions as a 'secondary creator' as described in the Mahabharata and Puranas. Born from a lotus emerging from the navel of Vishnu, Brahma creates all the forms in the universe, but not the primordial universe itself. Thus in most Puranic texts, Brahma's creative activity depends on the presence and power of a higher god." The information is accurate, but not appropriate for the intro without including the older story of Hiranyagarbha that is used in Vedanta, Vaisheshika, Samkhya, certain Mahayana groups and other schools that don't necessarily use Vaishnav Puranas. Since including all the different stories in the intro would be unrealistic and lower readability, it is my belief this edit should be undone to the previous version which is more neutral and comprehensive. Any second opinions would be greatly appreciated. Iṣṭa Devatā (talk) 06:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 Done resolved. Iṣṭa Devatā (talk) 06:19, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Was Detective Conan ever aired in English on Indian television? Was the manga ever published in English in India?

I ask because the series currently has the title Case Closed (The series title in the USA, Canada, and UK). I found that the series is published in English as Detective Conan in Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, Brunei, Thailand, and Indonesia. If I find it is also published as "Detective Conan" in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Maldives, etc. I will do a requested move.

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 14:58, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Category:Hindu movements and organizations has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page.

Hey all, I need some second opinions on this and this is the first place I'm checking in. Long story short, an article for Huccha Venkat was created and deleted several times before it was drafted to Draft:Huccha Venkat. The guy does appear to have received a lot of coverage, but I'm somewhat worried about this from a WP:BLP issue since he's pretty much known for controversy and his lawyer has stated that he's mentally ill. Offhand his appearance on BB and the film should be enough to pass notability guidelines, but I know that this will likely be quickly nominated or at least targeted for deletion if this gets approved to the mainspace.

Since I'm posting this at two different boards, this might be best handled on the draft's talk page or at WP:BLP/N, where I'm going to post next. I just wanted to give you guys a head's up since this is India related and as such, there's going to be the normal troubles with sources coming up in a general search. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 12:11, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, He seems notable enough to me, with 500,000 hits on Google Search. Now proper references are needed. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:02, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

The subject article seems to be catching a lot of COI editors. Previously when Manojche was caught he has stopped editing the article. But now Nexent has come and there are other IPs and SPAs like Writernmore too. Can people please watch this? A new article Vu Technologies Pvt. Ltd. has also been recently created which I have now PRODed. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Please file at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cyberhawk 5, while technical linking to the master may not be possible, the links between the recent accounts is possible. —SpacemanSpiff 03:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh! Wasn't aware of the history of this page.  Done §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

struck comments by sockpuppet of User:Imtitanium —Psychonaut (talk) 14:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello WeirdWaffle, Thank you for involving me in this matter. The page is missing lots of information I don't know why but i will definitely try adding more information about the show along with the nomination table. Regards Singh^{talk to me} 20:52, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

@GSS-1987: That's very kind of you. I did not know where to take the matter so I posted it here and thought of involving the few editors who are currently engaged with the article. Also I just went through the page history and it seems like the nominations table was removed as fancruft here. This might be because the table usually does not cater reference but regardless is an essential part of any Big Brother article. See this. The same goes for the weekly summary section and the vote count. All of these were removed by an editor unaware of the format of the Big Brother articles. Since the page is protected most users without an account who usually updated the table were unable to do so. This whole project requires a strong initiative.

I googled references for the nominations and I believe we can use these to retain the voting history:

--WeirdWaffle (talk) 21:28, 22 November 2015 (UTC) struck comments by sockpuppet of User:Imtitanium —Psychonaut (talk) 14:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@WeirdWaffle: I have started the editing part of the page and am thinking to revert the edit for the table from here also there is a section missing for Tasks so am also thinking to add a table for Tasks as well. It might take some time because I have to watch all episodes again to update the Nomination and Voting table. Thank you for providing the reference links. Regards Singh^{talk to me} 07:11, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@GSS-1987: Since we are to take the initiative I have gone out to fill the table as much as I can. You can find it here. Please look at the sources tab below the evictions. --WeirdWaffle (talk) 10:15, 23 November 2015 (UTC) struck comments by sockpuppet of User:Imtitanium —Psychonaut (talk) 14:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

• Before you all start filling the article with all fictional things like games/events/she-cursed-her/he-beat-him crap, please note that undue importance should not be given to the fictional items alone in the article. This is an encyclopedia and not a TV guide or fan-forum to check out what was missed in last episode. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Dharmadhyaksha: If you would just read what I have written a little more carefully you'll see that 'Lack of references' has been cited as one of the major problems in the article. I have gone out to suggest inclusion of sources in tables which will be a first in these articles. I am saying this because I have examples of international versions of the same reality TV show as references provided by the Big Brother project. Take this for the first example. All the information is supported by references and that's what I hope to do for the indian article as well. For the second example please note that the nominations table does not include sources for obvious reasons.--WeirdWaffle (talk) 10:01, 23 November 2015 (UTC) struck comments by sockpuppet of User:Imtitanium —Psychonaut (talk) 14:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

And if you would have read my comment you would have understood that sourced or unsourced, undue content related to what happens in the show (i.e. the fictional part) should not be added leaving aside non-fictional parts (like maybe the production, audience/critic reviews/TRPs etc.) A balance is needed on these two aspects while writing about such articles to not let it cross and become a fancruft. And don't tell me what other articles look like; see WP:OSE. And we see a lot of new enthusiastic editors around this time of the year who later on are found blocked for numerous policy-based reasons. Just make sure your whole bunch stays safe. Majority of you seem to have registered recently and have no more than 1000 edits.
Requesting regular fire-fighters to keep an eye here @TheRedPenOfDoom, Rsrikanth05, SpacemanSpiff, Cyphoidbomb, and Psychonaut: §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:32, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Dharmadhyaksha: You're right and I am definitely in favor. I did misunderstand that. Apologies. --WeirdWaffle (talk) 10:45, 23 November 2015 (UTC) struck comments by sockpuppet of User:Imtitanium —Psychonaut (talk) 14:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Will keep an eye. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:54, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Quite possibly this thread was instigated by yet another sockpuppet of the Bigg Boss-obsessed hoaxer User:Imtitanium. I'd advise everyone reading this to refrain from further discussion or collaboration until the admins have had a chance to review the evidence. —Psychonaut (talk) 11:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Dharmadhyaksha: I also apologize if i misunderstood anything but my main attention is to keep only genuine non-promotional information here on Wikipedia and I do understand that Wikipedia is not the place to promote anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GSS-1987 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 23 November 2015‎

User:WeirdWaffle has been confirmed as a sockpuppet of User:Imtitanium. Everyone participating in this discussion, please beware of this user, a long-term vandal and hoaxer. If you are approached by a relatively new user seeking support for edits to Bigg Boss-related pages, either on your user talk page or on an article or project talk page, please treat it with extreme suspicion. —Psychonaut (talk) 14:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Good catch @Psychonaut:. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:59, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

There is a request for moving 2015 Nepal fuel crisis to Indian Economic Blockade on Nepal at Talk:2015 Nepal fuel crisis#Requested_move_21_November_2015. utcursch | talk 22:53, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't know enough on copyrights but wouldn't File:Rajasthan emblem.png fall under Indian public domain based on its publication date? If so, I think the logo could be used in the template for Rajasthan. If not, it actually needs a proper fair use rationale. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:34, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

It's identical to the emblem of India, which is PD. So yes, IMO.—indopug (talk) 16:44, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello,
Earlier, we announced in the mailing lists informing you all about the 2015 Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest that is going to be held between 15 and 17 December at National Law University, Delhi. 10 Wikimedians from various Indian language Wikimedia communities and Indian English Wikipedia/Wikimedia community will be selected to attend this event where the event is aimed at helping them to work on various policy level works for their respective communities.

From your community we have got 2 nominations where we want you all to select only one participant by endorsing against the usernames below. Please edit the subsections below and endorse the applicant you think should be representing your community in the event. We also encourage more applicants, especially more female applicants, to apply and share their application with other fellow Wikimedians in your language community for endorsements. Though we understand it is quite difficult to assess one’s contribution on the basis of endorsements only, it is impossible on our end to select one from your community as a representative without your consent.

Last date of nomination/endorsement is: 15 November 2015, 23:59 (IST) --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Tito, imho perhaps you may like to set the last date of endorsements after the last date of nomination. For example, I'd prefer to choose once the candidates are fixed so as to choose the best candidate. AshLin (talk) 12:03, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

• Hi, the last date of nomination is over. You may endorse any one of these two nominations. --Tito Dutta (talk) 07:10, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Several new single-purpose accounts and IPs are edit-warring at the newly created BLP Prashant Kishor, restoring a poorly written, formatted and sourced version that is chock full of the users' personal opinion.

Could an admin please take a look at this and maybe put some sort of lock on the article for a short period?—indopug (talk) 16:41, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

WP:RFPP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:3F13:1D00:18F8:191C:D7D5:5EB2 (talk) 00:02, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.—indopug (talk) 04:34, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

• indopug Semi-protected for a period of 1 week, after which the page will be automatically unprotected., please warn disruptive editors too. --Tito Dutta (talk) 05:29, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Little cleanup needed at Vaddi page, also please check the licenses of images.--Vin09 (talk) 10:14, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

The entire History section seems fishy to me. Anyone who can help me find sources? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:23, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Your comments on Draft:Karnabharam by Bhasa are welcomed. Please use Preferences → Gadgets → Yet Another AFC Helper Script, or use {{afc comment|your comment here}} directly in the draft. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 13:02, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Like Wikipedia:WikiProject Hyderabad, needs page for Wikipedia:WikiProject Visakhapatnam.--Vin09 (talk) 07:30, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Please comment here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bangalore#Requested_move_29_November_2015

--The Avengers 05:10, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, It seems there is a lot of confusion about these films. I renamed and moved images which were wrongly described from the 1935 to the 1936 version. The legend mentions Saigal, so they are from the Hindi version, not the Bengali version. Now I am trying to upload a copy of the movie from YouTube (or another source), but there is also a lot of confusion there. File:Devdas 1936.webm is described as the Bengali version on YouTube, although it is in Hindi. The beginning is different than this one (Dailymotion). Any idea? Regards, Yann (talk) 21:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Devdas, 1936 Hindi movie. Yann (talk) 10:36, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Also some references give 1935 while others give 1936 as the release date for the Hindi version. Any idea? Yann (talk) 11:33, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

I think the date problem is due to the multilingual nature of the film. It was first released in Bengali and then in Hindi. I'm guessing that the '35 vs '36 issue is more to do with the language -- Hindi came second but the title was originally released in 1935, but it's gotten confusing over the years that no one has it right anymore! —SpacemanSpiff 07:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello all,
According to "about" page and other third-party desciptions, this is a search engine for Indian legislation and case law.
A large number (but definitely not lakhs, our shibboleth number ) - of articles link to it in some form.

• "IndianKanoon"
• "Indian Kanon"
• "IndianKanoon.org"
• "Indian Kanoon.org"

Is Indian Kanoon a reliable source for Indian legislation and case law?
--Shirt58 (talk) 10:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Not usually. WP:PRIMARY. - Sitush (talk) 10:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I would use it as a very reliable primary source. I have had few occasions to see that the laws taken from other sources in pdf formats do verbatim match with the html ones from this website. So I prefer this site for easy of surfing than downloading pdfs from random sources. I haven't seen any case laws though. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:28, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I concur with Dharmadhyaksha. Indian Kanoon is a good repository of Indian Law. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:58, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

But we are not supposed to cite legal cases etc directly. That would amount to original research in one form or another. In most all situations where I have seen it used, the context has been case law rather than simple recitation of legislation. - Sitush (talk) 19:03, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Who said anything about citing a case? We've only mentioned the Law. Not individual cases. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:05, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Eh? Who said anything about only the law (by which I think you mean acts)? I'm the first person to make the distinction between cases and acts and it comes from my direct experience of removing the thing from articles over several years. Shirt58's listings include both acts and case law. Further, please note that my initial comment was not usually; that is, it was not never. - Sitush (talk) 19:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, what I meant was that if the site is claiming to produce something verbatim, be it act/law/case-law/judgment/whatever, I would trust that the quote is right and would use it accordingly as quote itself. So I don't mind basing a Wikisource entry from this source. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

You both seem to be in agreement since the beginning, it's Rsrikanth05's post that is a bit confusing, because it shouldn't be used as a source for law -- as in a secondary source. —SpacemanSpiff 07:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

I think I am at fault here. I should have asked "Is Indian Kanoon a reliable primary source for Indian legislation and case law? Is it an OK primary source like Austlii?" Primary sources have their place here, if only to back up reliable secondary sources.

See Draft:Indian Kanoon.

Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, yeah. I think it is reliable as a primary source to back up secondary sources. But why on earth would we want to do that? I can see good reasons for including it in an External Links section for, say, an article about a specific piece of legislation but I really don't see what is gained by using it to support a secondary, especially since doing so is likely to involve WP:OR (specifically, synthesis). - Sitush (talk) 13:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

We have over 75 articles listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/India and over 2/3rd of these have been relisted at least once. The count had almost reached century in last 2-3 weeks. Hence requesting regular editors to participate in AfDs and reduce the backlog and help admins take decisions on them. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:09, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Can comment at Talk:Eluru#UA.--Vin09 (talk) 07:32, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello India experts. Here's one more old draft that will soon be deleted as stale unless someone takes an interest in it.—Anne Delong (talk) 04:59, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

User Annoy Chakraborty has inserted a link to Railyatri.in onto various Railway station pages. I've left a warning, and a COI notice after I found a person of the same username on the Railyatri.in Blog. I'm cleaning this mess up now. Request others to keep their eyes out. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:01, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

@Rsrikanth05:I've also witnessed several arrivals/departures timings tables in many pages.--Vin09 (talk) 10:19, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Vin09: Yes, I noticed your revert on Vijaywada station, it goes against WP:NTT. I've noticed. The most commons blocks of text are 'most travelled to destination from xyz', 'most delayed trains at xyz' the likes. Earlier, it used to like to Railyatri's ios app launch page, now it goes to the blog, which again, is link spam. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

@Rsrikanth05:I've not removed his content but just removing arrivals/departures columns. I'll check the spam links as well and adjust those headings and perform some cleanup. Tried to communicate with the user, no response yet from long time.--Vin09 (talk) 11:37, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

• He continued even after your warnings, I have added another warning now. --Tito Dutta (talk) 05:42, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks; :) --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:01, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

• @Rsrikanth05, Vin09, and Titodutta: I also happened to notice that Vaibhavwarrior26 has added similar such stuff in 2-3 articles. Please keep an eye on their contributions too. Might be meat-puppets or sock-puppets working here. See if any off-wiki link is available. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

• Good observation Dharmadhyaksha. These may be tried: WP:SPI and/or MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist if they continue. --Tito Dutta (talk) 04:51, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

• If this continues, we might as well get the url blacklisted. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:02, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

• For checking purposes: railyatri.in: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • blacklist hits • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com . —SpacemanSpiff 07:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  • Seems the user is back as Annoyc, this time, not even bothering to disguise it as a Ref, explicitly spamming the EL section. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:37, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

@Rsrikanth05: So, we need to remove those links wherever we find? Right?--Vin09 (talk) 17:10, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Yep. Railyatri isn't a news source and the link serves no purpose here. On top of that, the user has a conflict of interest and is a Single Purpose account. Removal would be the best solution. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:23, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Cleaned all links except from RailRadar. Someone please check notability of this mobile app from independent sources. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:02, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Apparently it was originally a CRIS product, thus giving it some form of authority over other apps. I'll dig a little deeper and see what I can uncover. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

I've been watching these pages for a long time. One thing I noticed here is that WP:BLP violations happen quite frequently to pages concerning public figures like journalists, reporters, news anchors especially if the person concerned is a woman; they usually become soft targets for right wingers and other chaps. With people trying to add stuff like this, this or this, I strongly recommend editors to watch these pages as quite often, handling them alone becomes quite burdensome.

• Nidhi Razdan
• Sagarika Ghose
• Barkha Dutt
• Rajdeep Sardesai

I'll look for more in Category:Indian television journalists and Category:Indian women journalists. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 05:10, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Some more:

• Prannoy Roy
• Teesta Setalvad

‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

• User:Ugog Nizdast, watchlisted. --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:43, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

This is a huge part of Wikipedia. Like elsewhere, editors working in this area use a skill set that helps them with the challenges of POV editing, copyvios, and much, much more. Well, these are considerations when evaluating candidates at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.

So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:

• Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll

You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and maybe even find out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.

Best wishes,

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:30, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• Anna Frodesiak, great initiative, thanks for letting us know. --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:44, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I seem to be having some trouble communicating with Sumanjha1991. He contributed an article on a painter from India, but it was a copyvio. I tried to explain what was wrong with it and clean it up, and he replaced it with a copyvio from a different website, so it has now been speedied (as a copyvio). He also uploaded several pictures of the painter and her work to Commons, which he tagged as his own work but which are obviously scans from newspapers. I've nominated them for deletion as copyvios there too. I've tried communicating with him using his talk page, but he doesn't respond. He seems to have made some effort to fix the tagging of the images on Commons, but it hasn't worked. I'm wondering if he has difficulty understanding English, and if someone could try talking to him in either Hindi or Urdu, to explain why the article was deleted, why the pictures are in danger, figure out where the pictures came from and if they are acceptable for Commons or not, and let him know I'm willing to help him re-write the article, but it can't be a copy-paste from elsewhere on the internet? Thanks. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:31, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

• User:ONUnicorn, you have tried your best to talk to them. Looks like they have left now. . . --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Can someone point out a followup report about what happened after the Detention of Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath? There is an unlimited amount of news about them from 2001, but I couldn't find any source recent enough to say what happened with their passport case. One awkward aspect of this is that per WP:BLP I am retaining the name "Ayub Ali Khan", though the latest source I found alleges that he had a different name and had faked his passport to get a visa. Wnt (talk) 23:02, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Someone created Indian Ocean Island. I've initiated a discussion about merging it with the existing article on North Sentinel Island. —Largo Plazo (talk) 21:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

The newer article was deleted by User:Deor as explained at Talk:North Sentinel Island#Proposed_merge_with_Indian_Ocean_Island. —Largo Plazo (talk) 12:52, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Dear Indian Editor, an article nominated by me for deletion is pending for participation at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amit Agarwal. Your attention will be appreciated. Cheers! — Sanskari ^Hangout 14:16, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone help me get the message through to Ravindra kumar Arkavanshi (talk · contribs)? I've no idea where they are getting their (English language) info from in the Arakh article but posts such as this and the lack of responses on their talk page make me think that they may be copy/pasting from somewhere and in fact do not speak English. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 15:19, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

User:Sitush, This is Hindi. . . This seems to be childish prattle. . . It means. . .

• ab mujhe btao ki jo ithihaas hai vaise he to likha jayega - now tell me what we call history, we must write on it correctly. .
• ya wkipedia bhi koi film bnane ka project hai jaha pr apni ulte seedhe vicharo ko jaisa chaho vaisa unke itihaas ki saath kheelwad kro ye jo tm kr rhe ho na baar-2 -- or do you think Wikipedia is a film project where you want to play with history?
• remove thik nhi kr rhe ho -- I dislike the way my edits are being "removed".
• aur kis baat ki refrence chahiye tmhe -- and for what you want reference?
• wikipedia kabhi isi article k khol kr rajyo k padh liya kro wha pr yhi arkavanshi ka description diya hua hai jo maine likha hai koi haawabaaji nhi likhta hoon samjh gye -- I know about this topic, I am not an ordinary person. . . blah, blah. --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:36, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Dear Indic Wikimedians,
Scholarship applications for Wikimania 2016 which is being held in Esino Lario, Italy on June 22–27, 2016 are now being accepted.
If you want to participate in this event, you may apply for a scholarship. Please apply here.
Don't be shy to write about the works you have done on Wikipedia. Write in details.
This year, I am a Wikimania scholarship ambassador. Feel free to ping me if you have any question. Good wishes (Tagging a few editors, sorry if this notification disturbs you: User:AshLin, User:Sanskari, User:AmritasyaPutra, User:Sitush, User:Jim Carter, User:Dharmadhyaksha, User:Human3015, User:Vin09, User:Ugog Nizdast, User:Doncram)--Tito Dutta (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

• Thank you for informing us. Jim Carter 17:02, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
• Thank you for pinging.--Vin09 (talk) 05:12, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Whether it should be XYZ Municipal Corporation or XYZ municipal corporation?--Vin09 (talk) 06:02, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Former with capital M and C. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:21, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks.--Vin09 (talk) 06:27, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Someone needs to vet Special:Contributions/Krantmlverma. Although he was blocked in 2012, many of his contributions remain live. There are several instances of historical revisionism in his contributions revolving around Indian independence movement, on both English Wikipedia and Hindi Wikipedia (where he remains unblocked). He has authored some books in Hindi, which are also full of these made-up "facts". Since Wikipedia is mirrored and read widely, he had been using the site to grant these hoaxes some kind of authenticity.

One hoax that I discovered today: Bismil in Turkey is named after Ram Prasad Bismil. This is a hoax created by Krantmlverma, and added to the article with "references" that don't actually support the assertion. But it remained live on Wikipedia since 2011, and now appears on several blogs, forum posts and other sources based on Wikipedia. I've removed it from both English and Hindi Wikipedias.

I'll randomly check the user's other additions, but considering that he has made nearly 2500 edits, any help would be appreciated. utcursch | talk 06:01, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Ouch, I can volunteer too but is there anything to look out for (besides the Bismil hoax)? Anything specific content problems or articles so that we can narrow it down? The range of edits is vast and I'm not sure it would be feasible to look through the entire 2500 edits. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:55, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

I cleared out a lot of them around the time he was blocked (I was probably instrumental in getting him blocked, come to think of it). I've often wondered whether the guy really is notable - we have Krant M. L. Verma, which was heavily edited by him using various accounts. - Sitush (talk) 14:36, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Borderline notability, I guess. You could find some mentions in Hindi sources. Any AfD nomination will probably end up in no consensus and allegations of systemic bias against non-English sources.

As for his hoaxes (and edits), most of them revolve around Indian revolutionaries. Another one I remember is this one about K. B. Hedgewar being involved in Kakori Conspiracy under a different name. The only source that actually mentions this is his own Hindi book.

It's good that Sitush has cleared a lot of his edits. I'll go through this list of his top-edited articles, and see if anything else needs to be taken care of. utcursch | talk 19:37, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone look at Kanchi Kamakoti Peetham article for improvement?--Vin09 (talk) 07:18, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Dear India experts: Here's a draft about a village. It could use some improvement, especially in the way of reliable sources. Can anyone help?—Anne Delong (talk) 13:41, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

 Done.--Vin09 (talk) 17:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I have an editor, @Palashvai: that has been making various edits that don't really appear to make a whole lot of sense, like this one and someone brought their edits up to ANI. Their name suggests that they're likely from India, so it's possible that they predominantly speak Hindi. Can one of you go and see if this is just a case of a language barrier and if so, see if you can help them out any in what they're looking for? I've pinged them here so they can be aware of this WikiProject. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:06, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

The user has been blocked so no further action needed. Thanks for informing the community @Tokyogirl79:. AshLin (talk) 16:07, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for informing --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

The article sees a lot of promotional stuff from users and IPs. Few Users have been blocked after Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cyberhawk 5/Archive. Need help on cleaning up all the hagiography. Thanks to @Shrikanthv: who is doing some cleaning.
Also, I noticed that we had promotional issues at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vu Digital (2nd nomination). Am not sure if they are same, but Saraf also runs a business named "Vu" in USA. Pinging AfD nominator @DGG: to check if these are all related. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:03, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Unrelated. Her's is Vu Telepresence, a video conferencing firm. Vu Digital is part of C Spire Wireless & does digital analytics. There are a number of other companies with similar names, none of which seem to be connected, or notable. DGG ( talk ) 00:33, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

There's a lot of comments by new/possibly involved editors at this discussion, so more eyes would be much appreciated. I am not looking for somebody to counter the arguments that have been presented thus far, but for policy-based arguments, none of which have been offered yet. Vanamonde93 (talk) 07:30, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

You have a strange set of people already there. Keep an eye on how they look, swim and quack. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:08, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

I had the same thought, at first; but there doesn't seem to be much overlap, two of the accounts have very little activity and two of them are marginally productive at best. No SPI clerk is endorsing a CU on the basis of the AfD alone, and I doubt the quacking is loud enough for somebody to take aim and pull the metaphorical trigger. Hence my post here; my hope is that if enough sensible folks contribute, these random characters will be rendered irrelevant. Dharma, how about you? ;) Vanamonde93 (talk) 11:27, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

An editor has inserted images into three articles about Indian places, where the image consists of foreign language text (I'm guessing Hindi). The captions say something about "corruption". I'm concerned that there could be WP:POV or even WP:BLP issues involved. Unfortunately I can't read the language, and since they are images, I can't put the text through a translation program either. If someone with relevant language skills could take a look at the articles on Kolthur, Manikonda, and Shamirpet, that would be much appreciated. Thanks. --RL0919 (talk) 00:35, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

It's not Hindi but probably Telugu. You're probably right about the BLP thing, why not remove the images as failing WP:PERTINENCE for those respective villages? pinging Vin09, can you read it or know anyone who can? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 03:13, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

@RL0919: @Ugog Nizdast: It is about newspaper articles directed at Sarpanch of villages who are corrupted.--Vin09 (talk) 07:27, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming and fixing the issue, Vin09. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 12:47, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you both. One follow-up question, for Vin09 or anyone else who reads Telugu: Does the content in the files appear to be copied from a newspaper or other copyrighted source? (Especially the image in one looks like an editorial cartoon.) Or does the text in the files name any possibly living individuals? These are being hosted on Wikimedia Commons, so if there are copyright or BLP issues, I will want to initiate deletion discussions there. --RL0919 (talk) 19:10, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lidhar could use some input. It has been relisted but still has no comments and is at the end of the relisting period. - Sitush (talk) 12:19, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Does anyone have the ability to bring some sense of order to Daiva Dasakam ? I'm not good on religious texts. - Sitush (talk) 13:17, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

NB: I think it may be copy/pasted in part from this. - Sitush (talk) 13:19, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

This Featured Article on Indian history will appear on the Main Page soon. It mostly follows the lead section; how does it look? - Dank (push to talk) 01:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

It looks quite good, just a suggestion: how about mentioning Elephanta Caves too like in the article lead?. I'm concerned though that the article was nominated back in 2007? Is its quality still up to our standards or did it deteriorate? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:11, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Sure, I can mention the caves. How about the article quality? The reason Chris and Brian (my fellow TFA coords) give everyone two weeks notice is so that there will be time to fix articles that have deteriorated. We can pull the article from TFA, but we prefer not to pull it if it can be fixed. - Dank (push to talk) 15:24, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with this topic well enough but I'll give it a read and check what I can. Wish I knew someone who knew. Anyway, will report back when I'm done. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:50, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

@Dank: Okay, I'm done and cancel that Elephanta thing. It's disputed according to the article. Fortunately, two more editors have joined in and edited the article; two issues have been raised on talk. I think it can be fixed but we need the major contributor/someone with access to the sources, right? Overall, the article seems just OK, I guess the standards years ago were not that high. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:19, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

On average, requirements at FAC have climbed over time (and quality as well, some say). Thanks much for your help with this. - Dank (push to talk) 15:15, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

See Talk:Shahnawaz Choudhary#Listing state-level party-organization offices in the infobox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidwr (talk • contribs) 04:14, 4 November 2015

When using the the India template, currently we have support for adding names of states, which corresponds to articles related to that state, and acts as a subproject. For example, for any page related to Rajasthan, i add {:{WikiProject India|rajasthan=yes}:} in the talk page. In this manner, all articles written for Wikiproject Rajasthan automatically adds up to WikiProject India.
I suggest to add support for third level support for cities, which would correspond to dedicated projects for those cities as well. So to mark any Udaipur related article, i would add {:{WikiProject India|rajasthan=yes|Udaipur=yes}:} which would mean this article is under project Udaipur, which is under project Rajasthan, which in turn is under project India. This will create a hierarchy for all articles, while saving efforts for managing different city level project as we currently have. This will also allow us to add as many city level projects without need for dedicated team for managing each city level projects. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishal0soni (talk • contribs)

Hey guys, I have a seriously huge favor to ask. Recently I came across an article that I ended up deleting as an article created by an editor evading a block/ban. A look at his article creation history shows that he'd made over 900 pages during his time on here. Many of these are film related and some appear to be potentially noteworthy, so I don't want to just mass delete articles that could potentially be of use. The editor in question is Rajeshbieee.

Would any of you be willing to go through the articles and QC them? If they're not notable then all I'd need is for the article to be tagged as a WP:G5. I'm aware that this will be a massive undertaking that will probably take weeks at minimum to go through unless we do a mass deletion, but I think that it'd be best for Wikipedia if we did this. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

• I've brought it up to ANI as well, but any help would be greatly appreciated. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

• Tokyogirl79, movies are not my area of expertise, but I'll take a look. Just to confirm, Rajeshbieee itself is a sock, and therefore all its creations are theoretically eligible for G5, correct? We just need to find the ones that may be worth keeping in spite of G5? Vanamonde93 (talk) 11:34, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

• I have just checked one and G5'd it but, honestly, we're going to duplicate a lot of effort if people just use the Articles Created tool - we'll be repeatedly checking stuff that has already been checked by someone in good standing. It might be easier to mass delete in full knowledge that if something is notable then it will be recreated sooner or later. - Sitush (talk) 11:38, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
• That's not a bad idea either. I am worried that keeping these may be seen as an encouragement to the sockpuppeteer. If you think that this is best, I'll follow your lead. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:41, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

• I G5d a couple of these, and left another couple alone because they seemed notable. After thinking on it, though, I don't think a mass delete will be that much of a problem, because even the pages on topics that seem notable on the face of it, are not particularly high quality; witness this. Mass delete by all means, if it's more convenient. Vanamonde93 (talk) 12:50, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

• @SpacemanSpiff: we have discussed this editor before. Brianhe.public (talk) 03:48, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

In the end of the day, it is here: Wikipedia:INDIA/Rajeshbieee--Ymblanter (talk) 14:29, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

• User:Tokyogirl79, I have been working with this user for more than 2 years now, and I am shocked to see this. As far as I knew, this guy was working on Mithun Chakraborty and a few South Indian actors' films. Could you please ping/notify me if you discuss on this user from now-on? --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:37, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

• The only big discussions at this point are at ANI, here, and at the page Brianhe listed above. I don't think that the SPI is still open or not - I came into this via the speedy deletion stuff. In any case, my point in mentioning this is that I don't anticipate there being any other discussion elsewhere since it's pretty well contained in those locations at this point in time. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I would like to invite members of this project to provide their comments on requested page move. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:05, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Right link of discussion is at Talk:Pushpagiri Vihara. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:28, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Kohli has been recently passed as GA by a sock user Numerounovedant (talk · contribs · count) and also happens to be nominated by new-ish editor Dee03 (talk · contribs · count). Am no expert in cricket and also lack fundamental knowledge of the sport. (Yeah yeah its fine! Not every Indian has to love cricket.) So requesting editors to check if the article is suitable for the GA tag. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:42, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Pinging previous reviewer @Vensatry: §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:43, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I've not looked into the article yet. Although there is no clear guideline, don't you think the review should be considered faulty (given the reviewer was a sockpuppet)? —Vensatry _(Talk) 07:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I am in dilemma while dealing with sock edits; at times article perfectly notable are deleted just because a sock has created them and on other hand we don't do that even if the tone is promotional or such. Anyways... pinging @QEDK: who tagged all sockpuppet GAs for speedy but maybe left this sockmaster GA for some purpose. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:24, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

@Dharmadhyaksha: I only tagged the sockpuppet's GA reviews for speedy deletion. The sockmaster's GA reviews must now either be reassessed or reverted back to their previous status. --QEDK (T ❄ C) 08:27, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I was gonna guess that. Thanks! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:28, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

"New-ish editor"? Define "new-ish editor", would you? Dee03 06:01, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Its English. If you don't understand it you aren't WP:COMPETENT enough to be editing here. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:31, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Yeah? And where did you learn your English? From those stupid Bollywood movies? There's a difference between "its" and "it's". Dee03 07:43, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

• Getting back to the topic; I had a quick look. I am unfamiliar with sports articles, but it seems to me that the prose is a trifle jargonish. Or maybe jargon is not the right word; but it assumes that the reader has some background knowledge of the Indian cricket team during the period being described. eg; "The exclusion of Yuvraj from the Test squad meant that the number six position was a competition between Kohli and Rohit Sharma, who was yet to make his Test debut.[122] Kohli top-scored with 132 in a tour match against Cricket Australia Chairman's XI and strengthened his case for a spot in the Boxing Day Test." Now this might be routine in a cricket article, in which case you can just ignore my comment; but my instinct says this should be delisted and added back to the queue, in the position it would have occupied had the sockmaster not picked it up. It would then be reviewed sooner than a simple renomination. Vanamonde93 (talk) 07:51, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

The sixth reference at Vindhyan Ecology and Natural History Foundation shows a strange CS1 error, apparently because the character "त्‍ " which occurs in the reference's title is considered to contain something invisible that shouldn't be there. Help by someone more experienced with Indic scripts would be appreciated. Huon (talk) 04:02, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Changed छत्‍तीसगढ़ to छत्तीसगढ़ utcursch | talk 04:16, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Please would experienced editors take this draft on? The submitting editor has placed a plea for help at the AFC Helpdesk and I think the draft is likely to have merit. They have stated a very large unfamiliarity with English and need proactive help, please. Fiddle Faddle 15:36, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

This 2012 GA has deteriorated and is being GARed. Pinging earlier GA involved editors @Tamravidhir, Titodutta, and Thine Antique Pen: §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:21, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

• It is unfortunate. I don't think I'll be helpful here. --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:34, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

See Draft:Uttar Pradesh Lokayukta. Thank you, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 23:34, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

I just created the article for Thanichalla Njan and while it got some coverage of its filming process and some major awards, there are no reviews out there that I can find. Can one of you take a look to see what you can find? It was filmed in Malayalam, if that helps any. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:31, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

A new series of articles has been started as a solo effort. If it's to be carried through and maintained it'll need significant input from the members of this project. Please join the discussion. Bazj (talk) 12:43, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

• Namaste and welcome to WikiProject India noticeboard. In my opinion, these articles are unnecessary. Let's see if editors ask for speedy deletion in that discussion (I have seen your tagging). --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:33, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
  • My instinct is to suggest merging back into the parent article, but this is actually a tricky issue, because really the question is whether the list is better presented for the whole world or divided by country. This means we need to decide what our threshold is for including events/births/deaths; if there are a very large number, then splitting makes sense. What are folks' thoughts on this? Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:02, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
    • the question is whether the list is better presented for the whole world or divided by country -- Hm that's an interesting point. --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:10, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
      • Whether the information is better conveyed in 366 articles or in 366 days * 200ish countries = 73200 articles ?
      • What happens when something notable happens in a less wikied country? Does it go unrecorded because there is no January 8 in Tajikistan?
      • [And, forgive me if this is clumsily articulated...] If this is a solo initiative, motivated by national pride [and don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with national pride], how will it look for national pride if it's not carried through to completion? It needs to be all or nothing. To be "all", I think it needs the support of WPIndia. By the reaction to the question so far, I don't think the initiative has that support. Bazj (talk) 11:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

I came across this one editor via the speedy deletion stuff and it took me a while, but it looks like they're trying to create season and character pages for the series Ssshhhh...Koi Hai. I've left a message asking them not to create any articles in the mainspace since they're either incomplete, lack context, and/or are redundant to the main series pages, and to try making them in their userspace first. They seem pretty eager and I think that they mean well, but need some guidance. I can help to a degree, but some of the stuff will require someone that's passing familiar with the series, like the list pages. There's a reasonable justification for season pages if the coverage is there, given that it's an anthology series, but I'm not pulling up a huge-huge amount of sourcing and this would take a lot of time, which I don't entirely have at the moment, so I'm posting here. The editor in question is Villayat1990 and like I said, they seem to be eager and editing in good faith. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

@Titodutta, Rsrikanth05, and Human3015: Dwaraka Bus station Complex, List of busiest railway stations in Andhra Pradesh, Eluru New Bus station, NTR bus station articles needs notability check.--Vin09 (talk) 03:40, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Looking. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 07:02, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I am uncertain about the notability of train related articles, but this much is clear; "List of busiest railway stations in Andhra Pradesh" is completely original research, because it does not, at any point, demonstrate that the stations listed there are the busiest. All it does is to use a website to describe traffic at each of the stations in the list. How each station was placed in the list is unclear. I will send to AfD soon, unless somebody raises a significant counter-argument here. Vanamonde93 (talk) 07:31, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Dwarka Bus Station seems to satisfy GNG.--Rsrikanth05 (talk) 07:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

@Rsrikanth05:Some cleanup and copyedit needed in Dwaraka Bus station, especially Expansion section. Also, the title is it Bus Station? or bus station as per railway station.--Vin09 (talk) 08:11, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

@Vin09:, Aah, yes, I realise my folly when I was moving the page. I left the B in uppercase. Dwarka bus station would be appropriate. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:50, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

@Human3015: NTR bus station was earlier deleted for WP:Notability. I couldn't get it. Can you see if it is now proper.--Vin09 (talk) 15:22, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

NTR bus station seems ok. Not every bus station is notable, but this bus station is in Guntur city which is a big city. Also bus stations are usually not named after any person, but this bus station is named after NTR. So this can be a special case. Also there is no link of the discussion of previous AfD on talk page of article. But as far as my opinion is concern I will go for "keep" if there would have been an AfD. --Human3015^{Let It Go}  15:33, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Can anyone improve Vallal T.N. Sabapathy Mudaliar? It relies entirely on a caste association website at the moment. I'm not sure whether the chap is really notable outside of that association, which he founded. He was apparently a mayor vice-chairman of a council for some years but that doesn't usually mean much for GNG unless the office was mayor for a major city.

If it is worth keeping, I'm pretty sure that the article needs to be moved because Vallal is apparently an honorific, although not one I can recall seeing before. - Sitush (talk) 14:44, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Input requested, please. - Sitush (talk) 07:45, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

This is now resolved, thanks. - Sitush (talk) 14:47, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Fresh eyes needed due the influx of Pongal related activity from POV warriors. Any help appreciated. 122.174.34.100 (talk) 06:39, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

A request to move the film article Fly Away Solo to Masaan, has been initiated here. You are welcome to contribute to the discussion.—indopug (talk) 07:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

There is an interesting new article on Karinkallathani, which should now be reviewed and improved, please. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 20:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I think its a hamlet, so there are very few references supporting it. The article is full of WP:OR. cleaned some and added a ref.--Vin09 (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Shri Lal Bahadur Shastri Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha and Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeetha. Are they smiilar articles?--Vin09 (talk) 13:19, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Both are two separate Institutes and hence two independent articles - Ninney (talk) 13:29, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Another hot button issue that requires experienced eyes from this board. Should the text of the suicide note be included in the article? especially when the TOI source mentions "following is the suicide note allegedly written by Rohith." 106.51.28.153 (talk) 11:57, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Move discussion underway, again. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:38, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello,

CIS-A2K is going to organize an edit-a-thon between 25 and 31 January this year. The aim of this edit-a-thon is creating and improving Geographical Indications in India related articles.

We welcome all of you to join this edit-a-thon.
Please see the event and add your name as a participant: meta:CIS-A2K/Events/Geographical_Indications_in_India_Edit-a-thon

Feel free to ask if you have question(s).
Regards. --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:00, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

@Titodutta: What actually we need to do? There are a list of articles in Telugu in that page.--Vin09 (talk) 18:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

• Creating separate articles of GI, India things. --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

@Titodutta: *Kondapalli Bommalu article already as Kondapalli_Toys. So do we need to improve it?

• Yes, right. Now I have created a subpage on English Wikipedia: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Events/Geographical Indications in India Edit-a-thon, it is under /Events. Earlier I was discussing that we'll be regularly work on edit-a-thons and other events, hopefull this "Events" space will be helpful. Back to your topic, if a GI article already exists, yes, you need to expand it (see the "rules" in the page). --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:56, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

One of the premier Indologists in the world is having the article about him being discussed for deletion. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:14, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Premier Indologist? Wow, I've never heard of him! Must show how ignorant I am. I think the tone of your message is a bit suspect. - Sitush (talk) 20:20, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

I am modifying this to put backSitush 's commments. I deleted them inadvertently. We will debate the merits at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mircea Itul

I am also putting in a factual statemment.

An Indologist is having the article about him being discussed for deletion. Please take a look and offer your opinion. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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Many pages about Gotras are unsourced and very short. If the subject is notable, please create sourced and informative pages. Xx236 (talk) 13:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC) KarwalXx236 (talk) 13:58, 26 January 2016 (UTC) Aujla - one of the shortest pages in this WIkipedia.Xx236 (talk) 14:15, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

This article has recently become a hotbed for edit warring and I feel a lot of PoV has crept in. I am having trouble eliciting much contriubtion either in the talk page (Fowler&fowler being the only editor who has responded, once or twice) but many editors reverting. I might have blinkers on, would appreciate contributions or opinion of other editors.rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 19:01, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi all, can anyone tell me what the "Award rank" parameter in Template:Infobox Indian Awards actually represents? the next highest/lowest award or the Precedence Of Medals? The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 18:46, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what it is. See for example, Bharat Ratna and Padma Vibhushan. utcursch | talk 22:15, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, it was recently changed by an editor . The order in the infobox used to be Bharat Ratna → Padma Vibhushan → Padma Bhushan → Padma Shri whereas now it is Bharat Ratna →Param Vir Chakra →Ashoka Chakra→ Padma Vibhushan→ Padma Bhushan→ Sarvottam Yudh Seva Medal etc. Bharat Ratna and Padma Vibhushan are civilian awards whereas Param Vir Chakra, Sarvottam Yudh Seva Medal and the likes are military decorations. I'm wondering whether the parameter was originally meant to incorporate everything together or separately as Civilian and Military: Wartime/Peacetime/Distinguished Service etc. like in the case of Template:Indian honours and decorations? The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 07:20, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, it's referenced. utcursch | talk 15:16, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

The reference refers to the WEARING of the medals, not the rank/precedence itself. Logically we should differentiate between the Military and civilian Awards, because, well they are different categories. Agrawal.akshay98 (talk) 06:13, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

The template has a parameter "type" which takes the value as Civilian. For the military awards, we already have another infobox template Template:Infobox military award. These both should not be mixed. Keep the civilian awards and their ranks as earlier. - Vivvt (Talk) 07:49, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

I was wondering if anyone could take a look for Hindi language sources for Raj Comics. The line is predominantly published in Hindi, so it stands to reason that most of the coverage wouldn't be in English. It looks like it should be notable, so I'm not worried about that, mostly it's just that the article needs some confirmation here and there. The original state of the article was fairly bad, as it had some fanboy tones, no true sourcing, and also had content that was undated and was very likely out of date. If anyone else can find something to add to the article to improve it, that'd be awesome. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:10, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

In the 2010s, one Abhay Dube launched a company called "The Bombay Talkies Limited". He claims that this is a continuation of the historic Bombay Talkies. He also claims that his grandfather Raj Narayan Dube was one of the founders of the original Bombay Talkies along with Himanshu Rai and Devika Rani. Since then, several press-release like newspaper stories have appeared talking about this "revival of Bombay Talkies" and how Raj Narayan Dube was a "pillar" of Indian cinema.

This article from 2013 mentions that "the idea to revive the production house took shape three years ago" i.e. in 2010. That year, the name "Raj Narayan Dube" was added to the Bombay Talkies article on Wikipedia, by an anon, without any source. In 2015, a new article on Raj Narayan Dube was created. Recently, the article Bombay Talkies was re-written using these sources, by BT0912 (talk · contribs), who claims to the Digital Head of the new company. Also,

MelAntipam (talk · contribs) has raised some concerns at Talk:Bombay Talkies, which caught my eye. I tried searching for this name and its variations: Raj Narayan / RN Dubey / Rajnarayan Dubey(y). But I cannot find any mention of this guy in even a single source before 2010, which is surprising if he was indeed, one of the founders of a famous studio like Bombay Talkies. There is only one book (Spot Girl, 2014) which mentions Raj Narayan Dube and Bombay Talkies - it's not a scholarly work, and is obviously based on information from the Wikipedia article or other articles that sprung after the "revival" press release in 2013.

Can anyone else find a pre-2010 source about this Dube-Bombay Talkies link? Any comments are appreciated at Talk:Bombay_Talkies#Errors_in_the_current_version. utcursch | talk 19:46, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raj Narayan Dube. utcursch | talk 20:37, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi all, can anyone tell me what the "Award rank" parameter in Template:Infobox Indian Awards actually represents? the next highest/lowest award or the Precedence Of Medals? The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 18:46, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what it is. See for example, Bharat Ratna and Padma Vibhushan. utcursch | talk 22:15, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, it was recently changed by an editor . The order in the infobox used to be Bharat Ratna → Padma Vibhushan → Padma Bhushan → Padma Shri whereas now it is Bharat Ratna →Param Vir Chakra →Ashoka Chakra→ Padma Vibhushan→ Padma Bhushan→ Sarvottam Yudh Seva Medal etc. Bharat Ratna and Padma Vibhushan are civilian awards whereas Param Vir Chakra, Sarvottam Yudh Seva Medal and the likes are military decorations. I'm wondering whether the parameter was originally meant to incorporate everything together or separately as Civilian and Military: Wartime/Peacetime/Distinguished Service etc. like in the case of Template:Indian honours and decorations? The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 07:20, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, it's referenced. utcursch | talk 15:16, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

The reference refers to the WEARING of the medals, not the rank/precedence itself. Logically we should differentiate between the Military and civilian Awards, because, well they are different categories. Agrawal.akshay98 (talk) 06:13, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

The template has a parameter "type" which takes the value as Civilian. For the military awards, we already have another infobox template Template:Infobox military award. These both should not be mixed. Keep the civilian awards and their ranks as earlier. - Vivvt (Talk) 07:49, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

I was wondering if anyone could take a look for Hindi language sources for Raj Comics. The line is predominantly published in Hindi, so it stands to reason that most of the coverage wouldn't be in English. It looks like it should be notable, so I'm not worried about that, mostly it's just that the article needs some confirmation here and there. The original state of the article was fairly bad, as it had some fanboy tones, no true sourcing, and also had content that was undated and was very likely out of date. If anyone else can find something to add to the article to improve it, that'd be awesome. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:10, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

In the 2010s, one Abhay Dube launched a company called "The Bombay Talkies Limited". He claims that this is a continuation of the historic Bombay Talkies. He also claims that his grandfather Raj Narayan Dube was one of the founders of the original Bombay Talkies along with Himanshu Rai and Devika Rani. Since then, several press-release like newspaper stories have appeared talking about this "revival of Bombay Talkies" and how Raj Narayan Dube was a "pillar" of Indian cinema.

This article from 2013 mentions that "the idea to revive the production house took shape three years ago" i.e. in 2010. That year, the name "Raj Narayan Dube" was added to the Bombay Talkies article on Wikipedia, by an anon, without any source. In 2015, a new article on Raj Narayan Dube was created. Recently, the article Bombay Talkies was re-written using these sources, by BT0912 (talk · contribs), who claims to the Digital Head of the new company. Also,

MelAntipam (talk · contribs) has raised some concerns at Talk:Bombay Talkies, which caught my eye. I tried searching for this name and its variations: Raj Narayan / RN Dubey / Rajnarayan Dubey(y). But I cannot find any mention of this guy in even a single source before 2010, which is surprising if he was indeed, one of the founders of a famous studio like Bombay Talkies. There is only one book (Spot Girl, 2014) which mentions Raj Narayan Dube and Bombay Talkies - it's not a scholarly work, and is obviously based on information from the Wikipedia article or other articles that sprung after the "revival" press release in 2013.

Can anyone else find a pre-2010 source about this Dube-Bombay Talkies link? Any comments are appreciated at Talk:Bombay_Talkies#Errors_in_the_current_version. utcursch | talk 19:46, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raj Narayan Dube. utcursch | talk 20:37, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Are Dandaka and Dandakaranya both same pages.--Vin09 (talk) 04:39, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, same topic. Should be merged. utcursch | talk 04:59, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

@Utcursch: could you do it, I am unaware which one is a genuine one.--Vin09 (talk) 07:10, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

I've tagged both the articles for merging. Will merge in a few days if nobody removes the tag. utcursch | talk 13:04, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, One source says it is Varanasi, another Calcutta. Who is right? Thanks for your help, Yann (talk) 16:25, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Yann: PANORAMA OF CALCUTTA, INDIA, FROM THE RIVER GANGES. - Although released under the title ‘Panorama of Calcutta’, the film actually represents Varanasi, which is 400 miles further up the Ganges. Cinema Vision India suggested in 1980 that the film should have been titled ‘Panorama of Benares’ – as it shows the Benares Ghats – and the listing within the Warwick catalogue avoids specific geographical references (Cinema Vision India, 1980, 104). Warwick’s decision to specify the location as Calcutta may indicate a desire to reference places familiar to British audiences, and to uniformly present these disparate places and images within India – and the East – under broader terms (eg. India and Calcutta), which, in turn, helped audiences to understand and imagine a controlled Indian space. The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 16:31, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I added that reference to the description. Regards, Yann (talk) 00:22, 5 February 2016 (UTC)