Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Library/Archive 8

I have found an obituary in a UK national newspaper (the Daily Telegraph) that I want to cite. I'm embarrassed to ask this, but is the best way to cite the url simply to include the Newspapers.com's url, knowing that most users won't be able to read it as they aren't logged on? Is there any alternative to how I've done it below? I could put the url in the archive url box, but I don't know the archive date, so I get lots of red warnings.

Richard Francis died aged 58.^[1]

Nick Moyes, Are you not able to create a clipping using the WPLibrary account? I have a separate subscription to newspapers.com, and created a clipping that should be available to all readers.^[2] — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:08, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

@Grand'mere Eugene Ah - I wasn't aware of that 'clip' facility. I've tested it out to see if it's available to WP Library readers. Unfortunately, it appears one isn't actually signed in to Newspapers.com via WP:LIBRARY, and one has to register for a a paid subscription with Newspapers.com. Don't think I can afford that if I can't log in through Wikipedia.

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You know, one of the main weaknesses I feel with WP:LIBRARY is the lack of a really useful FAQ or Help section that addresses all these various issues.

(Oh, and apologies for posting at the top of the page - don't think I've ever done that before in my 12 years here. More haste; less competence!) Nick Moyes (talk) 20:01, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

I once had access to newpapers.com via the WPLibrary link, but it mysteriously disappeared prior to the date of renewal. Same with the Ancestry.com access via WPLibrary. I finally paid to re-subscribe to my personal Ancestry account, and signed up there for Ancestry's discounted membership to newspapers.com. I noticed both WPLibrary listings have tags, "An issue is impacting accessT327653" and "Ongoing work may impact accessT322916"

NewspaperARCHIVE.com (also available on WPLibrary) is an alternative, but the search engine is clunky, slow, finicky., and somewhat maddening. But if you chance to select exactly the correct search terms, it has good resources, different from newspapers.com. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:20, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

@Grand'mere Eugene@Nick Moyes I'm sorry to hear that you're finding this confusing. Newspapers.com (along with Ancestry and NewspaperARCHIVE.com) have moved to the proxy-based method of access, instead of individual accounts. We're planning to send an email about this to Newspapers.com users soon, that got delayed because of some minor access issues we were fixing. We made this move because it streamlines the process of receiving access - users no longer need to request an account, wait an unclear amount of time for it to get setup, and then receive further instructions via email. You also no longer need to request renewal on a regular basis. You can now simply click Access Collections and get through to Newspapers.com with full access to the site's content. Unfortunately, that comes with some drawbacks, primarily the confusion above about how to cite the strange URL pattern.

The easiest way to get a URL which you can cite on Wikipedia is simply to replace https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/ with https://www.newspapers.com/ in the URL. This will give you a URL which looks just like it did when you accessed the site via your individual account.

Speaking of accounts, even when accessing the library in this way, you can still sign in to a Newspapers.com account to save and access Clippings. If you didn't have an account yet you can register a new one without paying. Unfortunately Newspapers.com is showing some confusing messages like "Try 7 days free" despite the proxy authentication working as intended.

All the above will also apply for Ancestry.com (you shouldn't need to pay yourself!) except that there are a few technical issues we're still ironing out, as documented at the Phabricator ticket linked above.

I hope that helps - is there anything that's still confusing or unclear? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:49, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF) Thank you for that advice. I will give that a try out in the next few days. I was certainly put off by the 7-day trial link to Newspapers.com.

Seeing as how you asked: The thing I find most confusing/unclear about the whole Wikipedia Library resource is that one has to know how to use it before one can use it! In other words, it's a wonderful resource that is hard to understand how to utilise effectively becasue of the way it is presented.

The main WP:LIBRARY page could, in my view, be improved by adding a 'How to use the Library' section. Even the top link in the first sentence is surprisingly easy to miss, as one expects a link lower down on the page to access it - but there isn't one. (It took me a few visits floundering around before I found it.)

I feel my experience here - and probably that of many others - is rather like a new student on their first day at University, being shown the wonderful campus libary building, full of books, and lines of periodicals in the stacks (I'm showing my age!) and other amazing resources, but unsure how to gain access to use its facilities.

In fact, despite visiting many times, I've only today spotted the 'Learn more' link which takes me here. Surely that needs to be accessible from the main library page?

I think it would help immensely if, as seems likely, many of these databases have their own peculiarities for access and for creating useable citations, that an FAQ with a few worked examples are provided. The 'Citation practices' section could certainly benefit from expansion to help users better understand what to do. If needs be, why not offer a link from each resources to explain and special requirements needed to make use of it?

Sorry to sound critical, but these observations are intended to highlight ways that I think could help make the resources here more accessible, both for research into possible notable topics and then, of course, to actually cite those findings. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:47, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes Don't worry about sounding critical - I think these are all great thoughts. We'll have a chat and see what we think is feasible. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:51, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I realized my access to Newspapers.com Publisher Extra expired a couple of months ago and needed to use it again to gather sources for an agreed upon split article. However I cannot find a way to request a renewal. It is still in my currently accessible collections but I am downgraded to Registered Guest. ToQ100gou (talk) 13:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

I've noticed the same issue. I've had some success using the techniques described here, but it would definitely be more convenient to renew if that's possible. Hatman31 (talk) 01:05, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

My Newspapers.com subscription also seems to have expired after 1 year.

Past questions in the archives here say:

It looks like your last renewal request was just over a year ago so you'll need to request a renewal. You can do this by clicking the Extend or Renew button on the Newspapers.com tile in My Library.

But I don't see any "extend" or "renew" button, just "Access collection".

Has the process changed? How do we renew the annual Newspapers Publisher Extra?

PK-WIKI (talk) 02:02, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I received an email from Wikipedia about the Newspapers.com access model change and new URL. I posted it here:

Wikipedia talk:Newspapers.com#Newspapers.com access model change and new URL

PK-WIKI (talk) 18:11, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, anybody hanging around knowing if it can be reached bi The Wikipedia Library? Thank you ever so much. Lotje (talk) 04:11, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

@Lotje

Yes. It can be accessed through Project MUSE, which TWL has access to. We also have access to JSTOR, so I believe you can find older editions there. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Greetings. I'm having trouble finding databases containing ISO standards, such as ISO 80000. For example, I've searched in EBSCO for "ISO 80000" . Unfortunately, it only finds works discussing that standard, not the standard itself. Trying an advanced search with "ISO 80000" restricted to the title doesn't return any results . Does anyone have any advice, please? Thanks. fgnievinski (talk) 00:45, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

ISO standards are notorious for being "pay to play" - you'll very seldom find a full standard freely available. I think I've stumbled over superseded standards from time to time via Internet Archive, but those are only useful if you know how the standard subsequently changed so that you know you're not referencing an out-of-date part of the standard. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:13, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting. Indeed, I was able to find older versions at alternative archives. But now I wanted to updated Wikipedia with the latest versions. I'll keep digging. fgnievinski (talk) 02:33, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I've found the item on WorldCat and at the BSI Group . I've also searched in Compendex but it doesn't seem to provide the full text, only a link to BSI. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. fgnievinski (talk) 03:08, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@Fgnievinski it's available at the British Library but you can't download it, so I can make the relevant notes if that's all you need but otherwise the above advice stands. – Isochrone (T) 18:18, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@Isochrone: Thanks for the note. Would it be possible to obtain access for browsing online (without downloading) the ISO standards held at the BL, please? fgnievinski (talk) 03:19, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

@Fgnievinski unfortunately not as it's only accessible on secured BL computers in facility, so I understand if you'd prefer another way of applicable – Isochrone (T) 10:20, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, I better understand the access limitations now. I've googled for "iso standards library site:edu" and confirmed even major universities have hurdles providing access to ISO for their students. E.g., the MIT provides access only in print, purchased upon request . The only possibility for online access seems to be from the ASTM , as "ASTM has partnered with AENOR and offers all European Normative Standards (ENs) as well as all European ISO-adopted Standards." Any chance TWL might be able to provide access to ASTM service, possibly via a physical library, please? fgnievinski (talk) 17:04, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

If you have access to the British Newspaper Archive through The Wikipedia Library, you may have just received an email stating that the subscription cost will be increasing. As far as we understand it, this is an email sent to all users with a BNA account, and does not mean that you will be charged any money for your BNA access. When your 12-month voucher code expires, you will not be charged any money and can simply ask us for a new voucher code to continue receiving free access. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:39, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, that's what I figured. They don't have any credit card or other payment method on file for me, anyway, so I wasn't concerned that I'd be getting an unexpected charge. But it's nice to know it was a universal email. Penny Richards (talk) 16:32, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

I've noticed recently that I am capable of logging into Wikipedia's Elsevier/ScienceDirect proxy, but that pretty much all of the journals that I was easily able to access maybe a week ago are now no longer available. Has the license expired like the OUP issue above, or is this just on my end? Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:51, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Here's an example paper that I was able to access in the last few months but am no longer able to . Can I get independent confirmation? Hemiauchenia (talk) 01:41, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

@Hemiauchenia: can confirm, I can no longer access journals on ScienceDirect that I could before either. I was able to read this article in full just a month ago, but now a notice states "Wikimedia Foundation does not subscribe to this content on ScienceDirect". Monster Iestyn (talk) 16:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

I've confirmed this now with other people also. There was always some stuff that you couldn't read on Wikipedia's subscription (like Cell Press e.g. Current Biology), but it seems like now that Wikipedia has no access to any closed access sciencedirect material, which makes the proxy effectively pointless. Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

The access to Springer and Nature journals now also appears to be non-functional. Hemiauchenia (talk) 00:50, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

@Hemiauchenia We've contacted SpringerNature about this. Elsevier should work but we're looking into this in more detail now. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:38, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Was going to comment about this. Just tried to access an article via SpringerLink that I used to be able to access and found that now I cannot. The site has the Wikipedia Library url but still only displays an article preview (while inviting me to either buy a pdf or login via an institutional account -- and the Wikipedia Library is not one of the institutions -- anyways, just wanted to let y'all know. RexSueciae (talk) 16:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): going by this it doesn't seem like the issue is resolved. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: I can access the journal Cretaceous Research (e.g. ), but I can't access any other journal I have tried. Hemiauchenia (talk) 07:29, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Ditto this one and this one Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:27, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

And and . Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 05:25, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Now it looks like it works again. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Access to Springer and Nature appears to have been restored. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:32, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Forgot to check in until now but yes, looks like I can view that Springer article again, though I have to download it to view full text (I assume they were working on something on the back end). RexSueciae (talk) 15:09, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Why a user must have an account for 6 months to access it? My account is four months old and want to try it out. Toadette ^(chat)/_(logs) 18:19, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

@ToadetteEdit We require this because the library's content is acquired through partnerships with the content publishers. They provide access for free, and therefore need some guarantees that the access won't be available to anyone who signs up for a free Wikipedia account (which would be equivalent to simply making all their content available for free to anyone). To make them comfortable, we found that '6 months' sounds reasonable as a length of time for someone to be editing before they gain access to the library. This still means that tens of thousands of editors can use the library. Unfortunately you'll just have to be patient for another couple of months! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:24, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll wait patiently. Toadette ^(chat)/_(logs) 11:49, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Whenever I try to search in JSTOR, the red circle just spins endlessly. The search works just fine at jstor.org, but it doesn't do anything at www-jstor-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org. Trying to do anything on JSTOR after I search turns up the error "400 Bad Request: Request Header Or Cookie Too Large" Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

@Thebiguglyalien This issue crops us sometimes for reasons we're not sure about, but the fix is to delete oclc.org cookies. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

And not sure if its something useful for you.

The following video might help a bit to clear up some initial mental question marks. (it did for me)

How The Wikipedia Library can help you write great articles (17 Aug 2021)

Video found trough Google Libr.., erm: search.
MvGulik (talk) 17:24, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

There's also a more recent talk/demo at https://hour.dcwwiki.org/event/dcw-conversation-hour-july-2023/ :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 02:45, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Is this media available in a "free" format so I don't have to be the FFMPEG guy just so it can be uploaded to Commons? (I will if it really comes down to it…) -- dsprc ^[talk] 17:03, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

I was just granted access to the British Newspaper Archive, but when I go to the site and click on pages I get the usual paywall notice saying I need to register and then subscribe. What should I do? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:48, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

• @Samwalton9 (WMF): Would you be able to help? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

  @BeanieFan11 Apologies for the delay, I was out last week. Did you receive the confirmation email from us with your voucher code and redemption instructions? If not I can re-send it. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

  @Samwalton9 (WMF): It doesn't look like I received one - could you send another? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

  @BeanieFan11 Done, sorry for the delay! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:21, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

  @Samwalton9 (WMF):: I suppose I've encountered the same problem. My BNA access application was approved on Sunday 24 September, but I haven't received any confirmation email. Could you please assist me with this matter? Mapple (talk) 09:24, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

  @Mapple I'm not sure what's causing this issue - could you perhaps check your spam folder to see if the email ended up there? That would help us narrow down the root cause. If it's not there I'll re-send it to you directly. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:32, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

  @Samwalton9 (WMF):: I've checked the spam folder a few times since Sunday - nothing... Well, nothing out of the realm of usual junk. :-) Mapple (talk) 13:47, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

  @Mapple Very odd, not sure what's going on here as I had tested it myself and received the email as expected. I'll send you the email again now. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 17:01, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

  @Samwalton9 (WMF):: Thank you very much for the email with the code, everything's fine! No email account trouble on my end in so far as I can tell. Mapple (talk) 09:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Similar to the issue described over in Archive 8 in March 2023 and seemingly the same issue recently listed on the Newspapers.com talk page itself, it also appears I can't make a clipping on newspapers.com either. It seemingly has gotten access to the Hull Daily Mail, and when I try to register it, it prompts me to register. So I type in my e-mail tied with my Wikipedia account, and an error appears. Strangely, the error is offset far to the right, leaving my only information being "ERROR for [...] Invalid do", so after a bit of Inspect Element finding, it appears that it is an error related to an invalid 'grecaptcha' response.

Which is strange, because I never got a Captcha in the first place, and I also don't really remember signing up, or attempting to sign up to newspapers.com in recent memory. Am I also doing something wrong here, or is there something slightly borked in the system? For reference, I'm operating, as far as I know, on both the most recent versions of Safari and Google Chrome on my MacBook. Hullian111 (talk) 16:27, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Same issue here. I tried logging in separately, but my login no longer seems to work? I tried to do a password reset, but the confirmation email never showed up. I'm kinda at a loss. Do I need to make a new account with them or something? Silverseren^C 16:40, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Now I can't even go to Newspapers.com through TWL. It just takes me to a page that says "www.newspapers.com needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding" and then nothing ever happens. There's no box to click or anything like similar sites. @Samwalton9 (WMF): Do you have any idea what's going on with this database access? Silverseren^C 00:04, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm getting that sort of message too... BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:24, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

BeanieFan11, ditto — Jacona (talk) 00:56, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Must be a site connection issue. Looking at my The Wikipedia Library site, some say "temporarily unavailable", some say "service issue", and some say accessible. — Maile (talk) 01:44, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I was just coming here to report it -- I've been having the hanging-forever-at-anti-DDoS-screen issue all day. Other TWL sites seem to work. Vaticidalprophet 11:49, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I've had the same issue for the past few days in every browser. Really frustrating. Ekmz (talk) 19:21, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

I also am getting it. KatoKungLee (talk) 14:57, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hullian111, Silverseren, BeanieFan11, Jacona, Maile66, and Vaticidalprophet: Confirming that this seems to be a Newspapers.com-specific issue, and we'll be looking into it ASAP. Please subscribe to the Phabricator task T322916 for further updates. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:31, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF) Seeing as how this looks like it might go on for some time, what workarounds would you suggest for citing newspapers.com in light of this current lockout? I'm currently sat on a number of PDFs that I've handily created from clippings of articles that I'd like to use on Wikipedia, yet I don't really know how to make them verifiable citations while I can't use the clipping tools on the newspapers.com website. Would I just cite them as regular newspaper articles with "via newspapers.com" attached to the end of the citation, albeit without the url for the time being? Or are there better methods? Hullian111 (talk) 11:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

How long could this go on? I've got work requiring Newspapers.com that I need to get done... BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

That does seem like the best option for now, just not including the url field in the citation. And then adding it in with the clipping link once we have access later. Silverseren^C 15:42, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

@Silver seren and Hullian111: How would that work, as I can't access the website at all so I don't know how I'd get to see the news pages I need? BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

On the pages themselves, there's an option to clip save selected areas or a full page as either PNG or PDF on your computer, the latter of which saves publication information (i.e. work, date, page number) for later reference. I just so happened to do the former for a whole host of pages before access went down, knowing that I'd get back to them and save them as official clippings when I can create a newspapers.com account, so unfortunately, if you haven't used that method for 'offline' clippings, I don't think you'll be getting that info in much of a hurry. Hullian111 (talk) 21:40, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

@Hullian111: I never thought to do that... grrr... do you have any idea of how long it could take to fix the issue - days, weeks, months? I'm admittedly getting a bit impatient here, as I've got a decent amount of articles I'm hoping to get done soon that I need the website for... BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:46, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11 Out of curiosity, you wouldn't have access to a seven-day trial of newspapers.com? That's what shows up on my end when logged out. Hullian111 (talk) 08:50, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hullian111: I do have access to a seven-day trial. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:24, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF): Its been close to two weeks since this issue was first pointed out - has there been any progress? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:43, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

...this is going to cost me a chance to win the WikiCup if this isn't fixed soon... ugh... BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

BeanieFan11, don’t know what that is, but I do feel your pain. This makes me more cognizant of what an awesome tool newspapers.com is when it is working. — Jacona (talk) 01:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jacona: BTW the WikiCup is an annual ten-month competition for the most productive editors - I've done extensive work this year in order to qualify for the finals, and then this happened... BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:37, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11 Sorry for the delay on this - we're at the mercy of Newspapers.com to fix the problem. Thankfully we're in touch with them and I just posted a brief update in the Phabricator ticket. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:52, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hullian111, Silver seren, Jacona, Maile66, Vaticidalprophet, Ekmz, KatoKungLee, and BeanieFan11: Good news - Newspapers.com is now working again! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:38, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Samwalton9, hallelujah! Thanks! And thank you newspapers.com for providing us free access to this incredibly valuable resource!!! — Jacona (talk) 14:57, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

@Samwalton9 (WMF) - Thanks! KatoKungLee (talk) 14:57, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you! ...my WikiCup hopes are still alive! BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:04, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Samwalton9. I've been watching the developments on this issue and can finally access the articles needed for completing a GA nominee for Women in Green's October editathon, that was on-hold, so to speak, for lack of access to this vital resource. Thank you for fixing the problem! SusunW (talk) 16:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Oh thank goodness for that. Well, time to get that newspapers.com account going and make some clippings! Hullian111 (talk) 17:00, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Yay! Thank goodness. I was on the verge of having to try and source things though...Google searches. D: Silverseren^C 19:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

I believe that I downloaded many books in the past through the collection Oxford Academic that were not free or opensource (under the green open lock), but now no book are available except the free and the open source. Did something change or am I mistaken and it was never possible? I do not know if it is related, but a link such as this one would have worked until recently, but now I get the reply

© global-oup-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org

Max challenge attempts exceeded.

Refresh the page to try again.

Whereas a similar link for Jstor still works. I checked that with two browsers: Firefox 118.0.1 on Ubuntu and Tor 13.0 on Ubuntu. Dominic Mayers (talk) 01:38, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@Dominic Mayers: Thanks for reporting this problem. We can reproduce the issue - I've filed T348967 and we'll contact OUP to try to get this resolved. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

It might not be important, but I noticed that the domain academic-oup-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org behaves differently than global-oup-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org. With the former, you can access the site, but the books are not accessible. With the latter, we get the error message. Dominic Mayers (talk) 01:03, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Is it possible to add Wiki Library to the results of a Google Scholar search? There are some journal articles in the library that are behind a pay wall on the journal website. Often the authors make the articles free to view on Research Gate or JSTOR for registered users and Scholar highlights these on their results as well. I usually contribute on Wikispecies and full text articles are a real bonus. I use Chrome mostly if that makes a difference. Thank you for your time. Andyboorman (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

@Andyboorman Thanks for this suggestion! We're going to pursue this and try to get the library added as an option in Scholar. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:51, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

That would be nice, too - I often need to hop from GS to the library. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on this. Andyboorman (talk) 15:16, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@Andyboorman: See my post below. With this you can click on links in gscholar and it will take you to the full text on TWL. SmartSE (talk) 14:17, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Is there a preferred method for linking to sources that are deep within (e.g.) NewspaperArchive? At one extreme, the URL I get is dependent, if not on being logged in with my personal Wikipedia account, at least on having Library access. At the other extreme, I could just use bibliographic data with no links whatsoever. Is there a middle ground? DS (talk) 03:39, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Are you making clippings at NewspaperArchive? I do that, then I link to the clipping, after stripping out the TWL parts of the URL (so that the link starts "www.newspaperarchive.com/"). It's not quite as user-friendly as the clippings function on Newspapers.com, but it's doable. Penny Richards (talk) 15:55, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

The bookmarklet works for NewspaperArchive as well as Newspapers.com, and could be customized for other sites. @DS, let me know if you need any assistance setting it up. Nick Number (talk) 19:55, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

I just did an AWB run after some testing to confirm (see Special:Diff/1181129650). Basically, you can just find-replace www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org with newspapers.com, and I assume the same is true of other TWL deep links. I agree that this is a huge pain, though -- it might be worth setting up a bot to handle this stuff. jp×g 01:37, 21 October 2023 (UTC)