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Julian Jaynes and his "bicameral mind" hypothesis that consciousness arose only about 4,000 years ago – 3-way POVFORK

Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see: Talk:Julian Jaynes#It needs to be made clearer that his overall hypothesis is WP:FRINGE.

Summary: Aspects of his hypothesis having "inspired" some later research doesn't equate to his work being proven correct, and cognitive science, evolutionary psychology, and related displines decreasingly support it, most especially his central notion that consciousness only arose a few millennia ago. Furthermore, it was proposed at that article to move it and reshape it into an article on the book, since the person is not notable for anything other than one book. Instead, the subject has been WP:CFORKed (arguably WP:POVFORKed) into two further articles (The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, and bicameral mentality). The bio mostly just repeats claims from the book article (but with barely any hint of controversy or challenge, and strong suggestions of influence), while the book article is mostly just repetition of what is said at the hypothesis article (but without much of the critical material from the latter).

It is thus proposed to merge these into a single article on the hypothesis, the book it came from, and who wrote it, with all the critical material present, and expanded by more recent work on consciousness and cognitition. Even if they were not merged, they have to stop viewpoint-forking (and coatracking of the hypothesis across all three articles).

Anyway, please follow up at the Talk:Julian_Jaynes discussion thread, so this stays centralized.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  14:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Proposal: Draft article on The Principle of Collaboration and Cooperation (TPOCo)

I’ve developed a sandbox draft for The Principle of Collaboration and Cooperation (TPOCo) (User:Darwipli/sandbox - Wikipedia). TPOCo presents an interdisciplinary model describing cooperation as a cyclical, energy‑sharing process that spans cognitive, developmental, and social domains. It synthesizes empirical findings—including Tomasello’s experiments on children’s sharing—and formalizes them into a systems framework valuable for cognitive science.

Why this matters for WikiProject Cognitive science

  • Bridges social cognition, developmental psychology, and systems theory
  • Highlights cognitive mechanisms underlying cooperative coordination and resource sharing
  • Offers a novel conceptual formula and flowchart useful for understanding emergent collaboration

I invite cognitive science editors to review the draft for conceptual clarity, source validity, and integration with existing articles (e.g., social cognition, theory of mind). Please review the sandbox at User:Darwipli/sandbox - Wikipedia and leave feedback here. — Darwipli (talk) 17:30, 27 March 2025 (UTC) Darwipli (talk) 04:20, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

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