Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hip-hop/Archive 4

Two points...how do I put a newish artist Misha B under your wing, secondly

Me and another editor Rui78901 are having a difference of opinion about layout and content of the Misha B page, over the last three weeks the have been a few reverts, both ways, we have started a discussion on the talk page, if you have time please contribute any advice, comment or recommendation either way or other. Thank you in advance.

The section creator made 2 copies of my question and 4 headings...not sure if it was me or a fault....Zoebuggie☺whispers 12:59, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

She seems more of a commercial pop singer than a hip-hop artist to me, but as the WikiProject Hip hop project tag is already on the article's talk page, the article already comes under this project. --Michig (talk) 13:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Maybe the x factor deafens you :) lol, Misha's music genre is hard to pin down :) MB is an artist who does not want to be boxed into Genres, but expressly/actively determined to mix genres and experiment with styles. Below is a non-exhaustive list of sources that refer to Bryan's genre. The Genres in normal brackets are simple ones I have not so far used on the info box.

hip hop^{[1][2][3][4][5][6]} probably more correctly British hip hop, rap^{[7] [8][9][10]} and Grime.^{[11] [9][12]}

(:but also R&B,^{[13][14] [15]} soul^{[16][17][18] [19][20][9][21][22][23][24]} reggae fusion inc (drum and base)(dancehall) etc,^[25][26][27] and(pop)^[28][29] (dance),^[30][31] (rock),^[32][33] (indie)^[34] (funk) ^[35] ...Zoebuggie☺whispers 16:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

If she does such a range of styles I have to wonder how relevant she is to this project.--Michig (talk) 16:27, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I guess that is for your project to decide :), even though she is not exclusively in your genre, she is increasingly one of the more notable/well known UK Hip Hop, Grime and Rap performers...Zoebuggie☺whispers 16:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I got rid of all the unnecessary space and a bit of unnecessary waffle from my previous comment and made one alteration regarding Hip Hop as she probably better described as in the British Hip Hop sub genre, hope that is OK.

I forgot to say If a project team has any free wiki time could they Assess the Misha B article it would be fab. Misha B UK solo vocalist like many artists cross overs many genres, including British Hip Hop, Rap, Hip Hop Soul, Grime but also Contemporary R&B, Soul. Reggae Fusion and others inc. Pop. See her SB.TV F64, Home Run, her rap breaks and urban stamp in her various song covers like Respect and Rolling in the Deep....Zoebuggie☺whispers 17:08, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey guys, can you all please help with Jonathan Hay (publicist) page as he is a major hip-hop publicist, producer, and indie record label owner (with distirbution through Death Row / E1 Music) and he has worked with just about EVERYONE in major hip-hop and with the hip-hop press. The problem is, someone without ANY knowledge of hip-hop put up a AFD on the page, and it is not being judged by his "peers", but people without any real knowledge of the subject. The article has been trimmed way down by other people, but this guy has worked with Big Pun, Twista, Nappy Roots, Young Buck, Devin The Dude, 8Ball and MJG, Amil, Jay-Z, Roc Raida, MC Breed, The Game, Ice Cube, Ice-T and many more. So much information was removed, but please need help! Causeandedit (talk) 17:06, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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The article was deleted on 2 September 2012, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Honorable cnote. The creator moved it back to the main space on 6 September. The content is now in the above mentioned User:Cakeupboy1/Honorable C note. The subject of this article is better known as Da Honorable CNOTE, Da Honorable C.N.O.T.E. or Honorable C.N.O.T.E., but I still think notability is really thin. What do you think about it? Thanks for any opinion. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:36, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I just wanted to swing by so some people could get some eyes on the Rza's article. It sort of looks like someone wrote a college paper on him and feels like the block quotes are there to artificially extend the length of the article. My knowledge of the subject isn't all that vast, so if someone with some interest could check it out, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Livewireo (talk) 19:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Kokane's wiki article lacks all mention of the contributions he made to g-funk originators Above the Law's albums: from Black Mafia Life (1993) "Game Wreck-Oniz-Iz Game" (with Eazy-E) and "G-Rupies Best Friend"; 6 songs on Uncle Sam's Curse (1994) including a dope verse on the hit "Kalifornia". There may be more, as they are both from Pomona, CA. Also, somebody forgot to mention brilliant young Tupac featured on "Call It What You Want" on 1993 Black Mafia Life. People want to know these thingsSusanlvs (talk) 04:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Some Tupac-related articles (Still Ballin' (Tupac Shakur song), 2Pac Live, Makaveli & Dillinger Don't Go 2 Sleep) refer to some raps as "OGs". I'm sure this doesn't refer to Ice-T's album and the only plausible meaning I can think of is "original". I'm going to replace "OG" with "original". Please tell me and/or correct these articles if you know better. Tim Ivorson 2013-02-10

It normally refers to "Original Gangster", but in these cases it refers to "Original Recording". -- œ^™ 08:04, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying.Tim Ivorson 2013-03-09

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There is a discussion regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the project occuring here. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

All of the articles that are comprehensive in nature (i.e. not on one specific artist), such as "Hip Hop", "Hip Hop Music", the article detailing the history of hip hop, and any articles on underground hip hop, alternative hip hop, etc. - need to include adequate representation of females, and not just as a small list at the end of the article, but rather through-out these articles for each subtopic in which female rappers were/are present in that subtopic. Not just as a separate article that's more comprehensive in nature about females in hip hop, but in all comprehensive articles. I've commented extensively on the talk page for "Hip Hop". Please see those comments about female hip hop artists.

ANY helpful comments on this talk page or the "Hip Hop" talk page in regards to females would be appreciated - such as names of female hip hop artists/groups from the 70s-today - underground, alternative, or mainstream; what city or country they were from; any research links on females in hip hop that you know of - NAMES ALONE BY DECADE would be helpful! Decade as in when they started their recording career or when they started performing in public (since some underground artists may not even have any recorded work or recordings may be difficult to find for them). I'm not worried at this point about how "relevant" they were as this goes on the talk page, and it can be determined later which ones are "appropriate" for inclusion. For some of the articles, discussion of some smaller underground acts in specific cities may be relevant in regards to culture and history as the underground is part of that, and I commented on the talk page of "Hip Hop" (which should actually be titled "Hip Hop Culture") about why the cultural representations of underground hip hop is equally important to the cultural impacts of mainstream hip hop.

I know there's a list of female rappers, but it doesn't list them by decade (it's alphabetical) or if they're mainstream or alternative. There's another list on underground hip hop artists, but it also doesn't say if any are female and it doesn't list them by decade (since the article on underground hip hop is sadly lacking in very much content in regards to early history, I imagine many of the alternative rappers listed are current).

Thanks for any help I can get with this! Sylvia Blossom (talk) 14:25, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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@STATicVapor: Thank you for that!

I've now cleaned up the talk page and archived the oldest discussions, and added the nomination template. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 08:07, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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I really am unsure how I am to go about this.

I wish to create another article on here but I have noticed that the subject is referenced in a few other articles and I wish to link these up.

I have looked over the help sections and creating pages but I dont wish to do anything wrong and make a mess.. I am hoping that some kind soul will see my need for help and point me in the right direction

this is for a hip hop article

thank you

azura Azura81 (talk) 14:44, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Can I get some users to look at the AfD for Cyberian hip hop and leave some input? Thanks, Origamite^ⓣⓒ 19:10, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

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Dear Hip Hop enthusiasts:

There appears to be a lot of information about this person on the internet, but I don't follow this genre of music, and can't tell whether these are reliable sources, press releases or just gossip. Maybe someone here can take a look? Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 01:08, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Mam nadzieję, że moi przedmówcy mają rację, bo mam zamiar zastosować się do kilku powyższych sugestii. Niezmiernie ciekawa jestem efektów. 

Dobyr case:

To forum jest po prostu genialne. Cieszę się, że na nie trafiłam! :)

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This article is all over the place.

Full disclosure is that I am not trolling. I am annoyed by this articles shortcomings, especially considering a blockbuster film about him was just released. If you go on, just take my words with you when you look at that article. I posted this here because it seemed like the best place to post.

Factually, I see no glaring problems, but then again, I don't know that much about Ice Cube. The real problem with this article is the structure. Facts and figures are repeated, placed in the wrong sub-sections, and the tables are labeled wrong.

Overall, it was a dilapidated piece of shit.

I know you editors and whatnot are dealing with all kinds of issues with running this place right now, what with governments and businesses spamming the editing capabilities of your articles, and the political issues you are constantly running into.

But this is Ice Cube, and a 6th grader could write a more coherent article than this. He is a celebrity, and a wiki article on that is not that complicated.

The worst part of all of this is that it was edited 6 hours before I viewed it.

Pathetic.

I'm a big fan of Wikipedia, but I don't edit it, because I don't want to ruin it for others by making a mistake that will spoil an article. In this situation, there were enough people who made these mistakes on the article (I'm guessing, unless the last editor was an idiot) that it completely fucked it up for me.

Bottom line here is, Wikipedia needs to get it's shit together to stop preventing so many amateurs from ruining the fluff pieces that Wikipedia should be able to nail. Also, somebody who is competent needs to take a look at the Ice Cube article.

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The problem of course is that WP is written by 6th graders. And grannies. And rocket scientists. And bored welfare sponges. And professional writers. You never know who's going to edit any one article. The more pop-culture-oriented a subject is, the more it attracts edits from children and idiots.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  23:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Dear hip hop enthusiasts: This page about a rapper has plenty of references, but I am not familiar with this genre. Are these reliable sources? The page will soon be deleted as a stale draft unless someone takes an interest in it.—Anne Delong (talk) 00:51, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

@Anne Delong: "Harjeet Singh aka prince" isn't a valid article title, and doesn't agree with the text anyway. It should end up at Harjeet Singh. It's not been deleted yet, as of mid-Oct. Some of the sources look bloggy, but many are reliable news outlets including the BBC. The number of national-level awards establishes notability, as does national news coverage of social and legal controversies involving him. Seems neutrally worded enough. Needs copyediting for weird spacing, lack of obvious wikilinks, and an empty table, but otherwise is good enough for WP:STUBhood, I would think. PS: I'm also not a regular hip hop editor; I'm just approaching this as I would an article on a fungus or a rocket or anything else.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  22:56, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, SMcCandlish. I was aware of the incorrect title, but I thought it was a waste of time to move it unless it was accepted. The reason that it is fairly neutral and hasn't been deleted is because I was pretty sure he was notable, so I did some fairly heavy editing myself to rewrite promotional text. I was hoping someone who edits these types of pages regularly would be able to pick out any fansites and forums that should be removed as references. I have accepted the draft.—Anne Delong (talk) 23:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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I prepared the edits on behalf of Myer and Uproxx, the company Myer founded, so I prefer not to make edits myself. I'm hoping someone here can review and make the changes if they seem reasonable.Thanks! Heatherer (talk) 16:18, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hi all, Red Bull BC One World Finals Italy 2015 could use some extra eyes. One user in particular, AdemirCedillos1, who has also gone by Ademiricedillos, has created a number of articles related to these breakdancing competitions. Another such is International B-Boy Championships, Red Bull BC One, and so on. Most of these articles are supported by primary sources, discussion forums, and things of that nature. I'm rather swamped right now and I can't do a whole lot to figure out whether these articles are notable or not, so I was hoping to get some help from the kind members of WikiProject Hip Hop. There are a lot of competition trees and other detail that seems excessive. I've also floated this by WikiProject Dance. I'm getting a really strong promotional vibe, cynic that I am. Two other articles, Undisputed World Bboy Series and 2014 Undisputed World Bboy Series were deleted as a result of AfDs. (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Undisputed World Bboy Series, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 Undisputed World Bboy Series) Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:27, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Representation of black women in hip hop and Whiteness in hip hop were both obviously created as student assignments (one is explicitly tagged as such), and both were written as polemics advancing a pre-determined PoV thesis then defended with WP:CHERRYPICKING and WP:SYNTH (and just plain ranting). I think both, especially the first one, have enough WP:RS material that something can be salvaged from them, but they need a lot of work. I believe both would be deleted if taken to AfD in their present state, despite the cleanup work I've done on them (which is all I'm willing to do; I have many other fish to fry, and this outside my normal editing sphere). On the talk page of each, I've IDed what some of the problems are and how (IMO) the articles can be salvaged.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  22:48, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Okay, here's the question: I'm creating an article on Natalie Sims a.k.a Natalie Lauren f.k.a. Suzy Rock. Natalie Sims is her birth name, Natalie Lauren her current stage name. Normally, I'd just title the article Natalie Lauren, since that's the current stage name she's credited under on recordings, and probably the most prevalent in sources. However, as Natalie Sims, she has some very impressive song-writing credits, such as Iggy Azalea's The New Classic and Chris Brown's Royalty. My question is, which name is more notable? The most common name in sources is Natalie Lauren or Suzy Rock, but the most high profile name is Natalie Sims, since that's credited on songs such as "Work" and "Change Your Life".--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 21:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

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This article on Indie rappers is based on indie hiphop artists who started their careers from hustling tapes their mixtapes! - Savkillz (talk) 20:08, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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