Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Norway/Archive 4

"Bjugn-saken" — what should be our name for an article?

• The Bjugn trial? (Nobody by the name of Bjugn, was on trial.)
• Trial in Bjugn?

This is a link to the Norwegian article, http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjugn-saken.

--Putersmens (talk) 07:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps Bjugn affair. It is about more than the trial(s). --Hordaland (talk) 09:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Bjugn affair. --Lærarstudent (talk) 17:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

2011 Oslo explosion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)  Chzz  ►  14:10, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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Could someone who speaks the language please comment on whether or not this is a reliable source?

It has been used here.

Thanks in advance,  Chzz  ►  23:59, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what sources it uses, but it looks rather sketchy on the first view. I'd say no. Eisfbnore • talk 09:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I think the article has moved on now, anyway.  Chzz  ►  07:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

What should the Enlish name of the article be? Statens autorisasjonskontor for helsepersonell?--BustingInflatedEgos (talk) 19:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Is Svein Eidsvik notable? He has an article on Norwegian wiki.

The 2 references of that article are

• http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/11/13/nyheter/forsvaret/dykkere/9023881/
• http://tidsskriftet.no/article/1087171

He is a recipient of King's Medal of Merit — in gold. --Ønography (talk) 13:04, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

He has authored/co-authored the books at this reference, --Ønography (talk) 13:15, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, but the Norwegian bokmål wikipedia doesn't do a good job at telling why this person is important enough to have an article. Ters (talk) 14:05, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone see anything notable in the references (apart from the discussed medal)? Does anyone have any other references with notable info?--Ønography (talk) 15:56, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

The Dagbladet reference doesn't look that notable. As for the medal I'd say that Order of St. Olav recipients are notable, but Merit Medal recipients not automatically so. Geschichte (talk) 20:35, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

The proposed renaming being discussed at Talk:Sigurd I of Norway#Requested move may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Favonian (talk) 09:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10089967

(We already have an article about another Norwegian doctor with and identical name, professor Eirik Solheim.)

In which article does this reference belong?

(The administrative proceedings against him, might be more notable than the doctor himself. And if none of these are notable enough to warrant an article, then I think that the references might be notable enough to warrant inclusion in some other of our articles. Suggestions?

(That a majority or minority does not see any notability, is hereby noted in advance.

That a majority or minority views/ does not view this as wikinews, is hereby noted in advance.)

The reference indicates that he was a member of Vigrid (Norway). But I have no references that show that he was a notable member of Vigrid.--Hirzflag (talk) 09:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

• I wouldn't write about it anywhere, unless he is actually banned. Geschichte (talk) 11:37, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

is an article which needs a lot of work. I've just reduced the amount of flowery phrasing. More work is required to achieve an encyclopedic tone. Many more references are needed. --Hordaland (talk) 13:13, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

There are now 3 articles about Trial and conviction of Joshua French and Tjostolv Moland, Joshua French, and Tjostolv Moland.

There is an ongoing discussion to delete a preceding article, .

Please note that 2 of the above articles have interwiki to Norwegian.--Solotaig (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I am thinking about writing an article about Offshore divers v. Norway 2008 .

Does anyone have any other links , ? Solotaig (talk) 11:12, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

The article has been proposed for deletion . Clearly a controversial subject.--Solotaig (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree that WP:PROD is improper for the article in question. No need to tell another editor to "buzz off", though. Regards, decltype (talk) 13:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

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In case anybody is interested in helping out, I just wanted to note in addition to the template that he has copied from both print and online sources (see, for example, the comments at Talk:Norsemen) and has split without attribution from other Wikipedia articles. In that case, it can be a simple matter of attribution as per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, although many of these instances I've found have been forks that have already been reverted. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :/ --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 23:01, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

About Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norwegian Consulate General, Houston

Do you guys know if there are any sources in Norwegian that talk about the consulate? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 22:09, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Are there any of the victims of the Utøya mass murder (that do not have articles) that are notable? At least one of them has an article on Norwegian wiki.

Håvard Vederhus was leader of School Student Union of Norway, 2008-2009. --Hirzflag (talk) 07:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

• He is the only one I can think of. Geschichte (talk) 11:36, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I would rather say that Vederhus is notable for having been leader of Oslo AuF, none of the other leaders of Elevorganisasjonen is notable anyways. And if Vederhus is notable for leading Oslo AuF - Tore Eikeland should be notable for leading Hordaland AuF. But those two victims are the only notable victims I can think of. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:03, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

The discussion regarding Tore Eikeland is at . Please do not spread the discussion.--85.166.141.247 (talk) 10:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

The elite football group of SFK Lyn, called FK Lyn was bankrupted last year. But the Lyn are back - and will be playing in 2012 Norwegian Third Division. What should we do with the articles?

"FK Lyn was a football club" and "Lyn Fotball is a football club playing in Norwegian Third Division"

or

"FK Lyn was bankrupted in 2010, but started to play in 2011 Norwegian Fourth Division" ?

When I read the article about SFK Lyn, it seems clear to that FK Lyn is still bankrupt, and the team playing in next years 3. Division is SFK Lyn or Lyn Fotball.

But anyways - I think the way the FK Lyn article is now, is very misleading. Any thoughts ? Mentoz86 (talk) 14:16, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

• I haven't looked at the articles but this is correct: FK Lyn was not a club, but was the elite football branch of the multi-sports club SFK Lyn. FK Lyn does not exist anymore. Lyn Fotball is not a club either, but co-existed with FK Lyn as the "low-key" football branch of SFK Lyn, but since mid-2010 it is the only football branch of SFK Lyn. Lyn Fotball does field a men's senior team in the Third Division, following promotion from the Fourth Division in 2011. Geschichte (talk) 22:30, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

• Yesterday, the user Jolicnikola moved the page from FK Lyn to Lyn Fotball. See here. However, he performed a copy-paste move, so I'm undoing it and waiting for an administrator to move the page. Atleast that's the way I feel is correct. We could also, as stating above, say that "FK Lyn was a football club" and "Lyn Fotball is a football club playing in Norwegian Third Division" with two different articles, but I feel thi way Jolicknikola did it is more correct. (Except the copy-paste part) Mentoz86 (talk) 02:46, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• I'm not sure if FK Lyn should be touched, since the club actually went bankrupt. Note that SFK Lyn now in some respects (on their own website) calls the men's A and B team "Lyn 1896". Organizationally, it's just called Lyn Fotball still. Geschichte (talk) 12:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• If I'm not mistaken, "FK Lyn" or "FC Lyn Oslo" was established in the 90's or early 2000s like a "elite football club" (toppfotballklubb), like a lot of others Norwegian football clubs have done, to differ from the "youth and amateur club" (breddefotballklubb). That means that most of the clubs achievements (2 leagues, 8 cups ++) were actually won by "SFK Lyn", and makes this a whole lot more difficult. Just as a note, on nowiki, FK Lyn has been moved to Lyn Fotball, but as you said before, "that shouldn't be held up against this as a benchmark", but it gives us an indication. I guess this boils down to whether NFF and SFK Lyn considers the new "Lyn 1896" as holder of the 2 league and 8 cup titles. Mentoz86 (talk) 15:51, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, the situation now is that Lyn only has a breddefotball section, but that the club itself divides this into Lyn Fotball (bredde) and Lyn 1896 (top). FK Lyn doesn't really have anything to do with it, but perhaps that article should be shrunk, the history section limited to the years that FC Lyn Oslo/FK Lyn (it was renamed) actually existed, and the rest of the history moved to SFK Lyn or a new article about Lyn Fotball. Geschichte (talk) 13:26, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

• I notified Jolicnikola about this discussion, but there hasn't been a response yet. But I feel that if we divide the club into three articles, (SFK Lyn, FK Lyn and Lyn Fotball) we are creating an artificial distinction between SFK Lyn and FK Lyn, because FK Lyn was the natural successor of SFK Lyn. I mean, you wouldn't create two different article about Vålerenga IF Fotball and Vålerenga Fotball, just because of a name-change? Creating a new article about the third-division-club Lyn Fotball might be a good idea, and revert the changes about FK Lyn during the last six months, and when we know more we might merge the two articles. The "new" club Odd Grenland is considered a successor of Odd BK, while the new club Sandefjord Fotball is not considered as a successor of Sandefjord BK, even though this is three totally different cases, I have a feeling the NFF would consider Lyn Fotball as a successor of FK Lyn - but we don't know that yet, so I guess there must be two different articles. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:24, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Norway was awarded this week, as covered in the Signpost. However, I don't speak Norwegian, and all of the reference articles are in Norwegian, so I've used Google Translate to collate the information. I would like a native speaker (I assume there are some in this project, no? (= ) to go over it to make sure I didn't omit/embelish/mess up anything, in particular the quotes. Thanks, ResMar 02:19, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

What is the English name of Stortingets spørretime?--62.92.144.15 (talk) 13:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

stortinget.no uses "Question Time". Regards, --Kjetil_r 09:50, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I can not find any article (or redirect from) Crime in Norway.

(- Woman, 40 years old, raped inside Hard Rock Café in Oslo — The transgression/abuse happened inside a toilet room)"- Kvinne (40) voldtatt på Hard Rock Café i Oslo — Overgrepet skjedde på et toalett." might be a relevant link.

What section of what article, deals with Crime in Norway? --85.166.141.247 (talk) 11:07, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

From my point of view, this is WP:NOT; "Wikipedia is not a newspaper". Might be sufficient by mentioned this in 2011 in Norway. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:05, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Further surfing on wikipedia, leads me to believe that the mentioned link might be relevant in the section regarding Law enforcement in Norway or in the article about Police in Norway. (But of course, relevance would have to be demonstrated in any text accompanying the reference.)--85.166.141.247 (talk) 14:21, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how a single article about a single rape in a single city has any significance for an article about crime in the whole of Norway in general. There should however be several articles that focus on the bigger picture, whether it's the rape wave, terror readiness, criminal groups from Eastern Europe, funding or whatnot. Those should be more relevant. Ters (talk) 16:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I guess we need someone to look after 85.166.141.247's and 85.166.141.237's, edits and make sure he doesn't mess up any article, since he apparently doesn't differ wikipedia and wikinews. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Methinks the IPs are used for soapboxing by the person behind the Sju hav socks. Just take a look at their postings above, asking the same old questions about notability of controversial Norway topics. I've frankly had enough of this incessant trolling and would like to see this page semi-protected. --Eisfbnore • talk 11:51, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I just provided a GA review for this article. Its main issue is comprehensiveness. I'd like editors familiar with the subject to take a look at the article and make a good effort at expansion with an eye to having good documentation of additional references. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 19:40, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Air Norway's HQ (address in the Contact Us area) is at "Fosen Næringshage 7130 Brekstad" - Does this mean its head offices are on the property of Fosen Næringshage's at Meieriveien 57130 Brekstad, Norway? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 04:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Fosen Næringshage, 7130 Brekstad would be sufficient, but if Fosen Næringshage is located at Meieriveien 5 you can write the adress like that: Fosen Næringshage, Meieriveien 5, 7130 Brekstad. Some Norwegians business differs between "postal adress" and "visiting adress", but in this case it looks like it the same for both. Mentoz86 (talk) 06:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! The address I wanted was the visiting address. Since we have it, we are good to go :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Just wondering if any of you'd be interested in looking closer into weather or not the article about the Auld alliance belongs to this project... Look at the discussion section for more info this user comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Auld_Alliance#Documents_relating_to_the_Norwegian_involvement gives some examples of why the article might belong to this project, while other people commenting there things otherwise. The current version of the article don't mention Norway at all although the Norwegian article by the same name have plenty of information about Norways involvement. Thanks in advance for anything you guys choose to do with this Luredreier (talk) 10:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

With the several discussions on Norway's involvement and as you also point to, plenty more information on the corresponding Norwegian-language article that's more than needed for adding article to WikiProject Norway, so I have added our banner on the talk page. Also, as this looks like an intriguing discussion going on, perhaps more editors than myself will look into this matter? __meco (talk) 17:08, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Norway will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Norway's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Norway#Tax_level Norway is not a communist country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.251.194.118 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

I recommend editors keep Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway/Article alerts on their watchlist. It is updated by a bot whenever articles tagged with our project banner or placed in project categories enter various workflows (such as Articles for Deletion, Requests for Comments, Peer Review, and many more). This short page is also transcluded onto the main project page (at the bottom), but unless you scour that page for regular updates, having the article alerts page on your watchlist is a lot more effiecient. __meco (talk) 09:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

As you might have noticed, I trying to improve articles about Norwegian football here. I've found this site which has an complete summary of players capped for the Norwegian national team, but I am wondering if there is a similar site to find U-21 caps. Do you have any advice? Mentoz86 (talk) 17:25, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I've recently been working on Owen Wilkes, a New Zealand peace campaigner sentenced for espionage in Norway. I would appreciate a Norwegian-speaker having a look in likely places for Norwegian-language coverage, in particular obituaries. Owen Wilkes is currently in the DYK queue. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Maybe you could try e-mailing Nils Petter Gleditsch? Or ask wikipedia in Norwegian, at least one of their useres is a librarian with a few books under his belt. --Chain of koools (talk) 15:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

There is an edit war going on in the article about the Norwegian foundation Stiftelsen Kvinneuniversitetet i Norden.

Maybe someone who is not one of the "usual suspects" can weigh in on the notability of the references from Aftenposten and Bergens Tidende.

Verdens Gang also has an article, http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/norsk-politikk/artikkel.php?artid=10070226.

The discussion page of the article has been deleted, but some of the points can be found at User talk:Meco, "A Norwegian "university" — and a co-founder". --Gerrymanders (talk) 00:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

This is one of the versions with references from Aftenposten an Bergens Tidende. User:Guillaume seems to be impressed by a number of editors and sysops being of one opinion. On the other hand editor Meco has given a reason for not wanting to be involved in the discussion. --Gerrymanders (talk) 00:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a number of tools available that can assist in dealing with biased editing. I suggest you post a notice about the situation at Reliable sources noticeboard and/or NPOV noticeboard. There are also various other means you can utilize, such as calling a third opinion or request for comments. __meco (talk) 08:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

On that note, I hereby add a link to a version of the article with the mentioned references, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nordic_Women%27s_University&oldid=482451630#Controversy. --183.88.33.3 (talk) 01:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I've always fancied creating an article on the (nearly dead) use of the subjunctive mood in our wonderful language. However, I'm a bit uncertain about whether I should create an article entitled Subjunctive in Norwegian or a general article entitled Subjunctive in Scandinavian languages. The former would be the most common (there are at present only articles about subjunctive in specific languages, not in language groups), but the latter would be the more semantically correct, since the subjunctive is effectively equally used in Danish, Norwegian and Swedish. Also, I would be greatly appreciative of anyone pointing me in the direction of grammar books dealing with the Norwegian subjunctive, both descriptive and prescriptive. Grateful for your elucidation, Eisfbnore ^{(下さいて話し)} 16:24, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

That be fine. Tvi vøre, gu bære, hoen ta. Signe ferda. Oceanh (talk) 09:17, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Far be it from me to use the subjunctive, but if I were you, I'd suggest that it be used, lest Wikipedia have no article on its use in our language. Eisfbnore ^{(下さいて話し)} 14:14, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Aha, it's konjunktiv. __meco (talk) 18:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

My only concern is that its use in Norwegian is nearly moribund. There are a few fixed expressions which take use of the subjunctive, like "Kongen leve" and "koste hva det koste vil", but it is very little used on sentence level. On the other hand, we have articles about the English subjunctive and Subjunctive in Dutch; the use of it in those languages belongs almost as much to the past as it does in Norwegian. Eisfbnore ^{(下さいて話し)} 18:12, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Good news: the job queue which has left Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Norway articles by quality log not updated since March 19 has now been dealt with and all assessment changes to our articles that have been made since that date are now presented under today's date. It's a lot, so go and appraise yourselves of which articles you need to take a look at, add to your watchlists, etc! __meco (talk) 11:05, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

There is a proposal to merge articles about the Ulla-Førre hydroelectric complex into single article. Your opinion is appreciated. Beagel (talk) 16:29, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. There is currently an edit war going on about Eskil Pedersen's article, with three participants: User:Toresbe, User:Roghue and myself. Toresbe is a member of AUF and have done an excellent job removing unsourced rumours and personal attacks from this article, and this is what the article looked like before me or Roghue did any edits. Since then Roghue have added (imo) well-sourced criticism of Pedersen, while Toresbe have been trying to remove some of it, while I have been trying to revert toresbe's edit and instead tweaking the article to a more NPOV by trying to fix the issues Toresbe have written in his edit summaries when he have removed the text. That edit war lasted till 10 January, and I feel that this version was something all three could live with. However, after Roghue addition on 17 April, another edit war have engaged, which I feel is much less constructive then the previous one. My opinion is that Toresbe is violating WP:COI, by removing sourced information that might put Pedersen in bad light, while his opinion is that he is right to do so per WP:COATRACK, WP:UNDUE and WP:BLP. I admit that this is simply a content dispute I want some more experienced editors to have a look at this so we can settle with a neutral version of the article. (remember that this is my version of this, and the two other participants might have another view on the matter) Mentoz86 (talk) 09:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

This discussion about naming of the film is occuring right now. For consensus, please discuss. --George Ho (talk) 02:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I found some info on RSSSF about a Norwegian League Cup in the early 1990s, here is the links on RSSSF: 1992 and 1993. After googling it, I found it discussed on a couple of foras: vgd, kfl and rbkweb and it looks like the name was Würth Liga Cup. I am thinking about creating an article about this, but I guess I would need some reliable sources. Could anyone help out on this one? Mentoz86 (talk) 13:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

We have discussed this earlier, but since Lyn Fotball for an own article, I want to reach a consensus. I have opened a RM for FK Lyn to Lyn Fotball, and please join the discussion here. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Please check out the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 April 23#Template:Infobox Bydel. __meco (talk) 16:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Are we making the best use of our noticeboard? I feel we are not. Are there any changes we can insititute to make it into more of a dynamic tool than it currently is? Could we not seek to use it in the manner other non-regional noticeboards are utilized, e.g. WP:RSN, WP:NPOVN and so on? __meco (talk) 20:44, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I believe we can improve this. At the moment, its primarly focus is for creating articles, and it's almost only Tippeligaen-players from 1995 and Architects on the list. I think we should move our focus to improve articles, as we already have a huge amount of stub. We should update the Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway/Cleanup listing, and instead of simply adding a bunch of names we should add a few articles that we really think we need (like the three current Ullensaker/Kisa players that Geschichte added with this edit). So basically, have a few requested articles, more requests for expansion, get a up-to-date cleanup-listing and list some articles that should be taken up to GA and maybe FA status (Even though we have some editors doing a magnificent job on the GA's). Mentoz86 (talk) 12:28, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

There have been some very tedious goings on at Margaret, Maid of Norway, principally concerning the meaning of Jomfruen av Norge. The current text states that this is "literally 'The Young Lady of Norway' ", although various editors seem to think it should state 'The Virgin of Norway'.

An explanatory hidden note was left thus "VENNLIGST LES DETTE: FORANDRE IKKE 'YOUNG LADY' TIL 'VIRGIN'. I HØYMIDDELALDEREN VAR 'JOMFRU' ELLER 'JUNGFRU', SOM BETYR 'UNG FRUE', EN BETEGNELSE SOM TILSVARER DAGENS 'PRINSESSE'. ORDET HADDE INGENTING MED SEKSUALITET Å GJØRE. DEN SISTNEVNTE BETYDNING KOM PÅ 1800- ELLER 1900-TALLET. SE ELLERS HER: http://www.nob-ordbok.uio.no/perl/ordbok.cgi?OPP=jomfru&bokmaal=+&ordbok=bokmaal".

I take this to mean something like: "at the time the phrase was in use (the late 13th century) 'Jomfruen' did not have the modern sexual connotation of 'virgin' " - however my knowledge of the Norwegian language is scant, and far less do I have any understanding of the subtleties of changing use and meaning. If someone could clarify this I'd be very grateful. Ben MacDui 09:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Your understanding of Norwegian is very good, here is a translaton: "Please read this: Do not change 'Young Lady' to 'Virign'. In 'høymiddelalderen' (probably the 13th century) 'Jomfru' (Virgin) or 'Jungfru' (Young lady) had the same meaning as today's 'princess', and was not related to sexuality until the 19th and 20th century." with a link to an online norwegian dictonary that doesn't back up that Norwegian 'jomfru' could mean princess. But I guess jomfru could also mean young lady. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:00, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

What Mentoz86 said. To add, "Jomfruen av Norge" is a Norwegian translation of her English nickname "Maid of Norway", and it doesn't make any sense to have a (different) translation back to English in the article. "Maid" could indeed be translated into Norwegian as "jomfru" (virgin) or "ungpike" (young girl). Finn Rindahl (talk) 11:12, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. Ben MacDui 13:34, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I have been accused by Eisfbnore (talk · contribs) of actively aiding rogue users "turning WT:NORWAY into a soapbox of grievances against the Norwegian government." and that I have "always been defending the socks and the trolls in their crusade against the integrity of the English Wikipedia." Eisfbnore recently received an unambiguous reprimand at WP:ANI for vigilante behavior, yet persists in leveling accusations against me of trying to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia, specifically here at WT:NORWAY. I want fellow WP NORWAY members to be appraised of these ongoings. __meco (talk) 08:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

See here for an example. In my opinion this ribbon table does not look nice and should not be shown by default. Geschichte (talk) 06:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree. This is some gaudy display that has been carried over from the Bokmål Wikipedia. I noticed it when translating Robert Mood from no:Robert Mood. I don't think there should be any images used to represent such decorations. __meco (talk) 07:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I too agree. Unsightly. Manxruler (talk) 07:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. It's not very pretty, so I see no reason to keep it. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Could someone have a look at this template? An IP user has been altering the populations without sources and changing the ordering of entries in a way that doesn't correspond even to the population figures as s/he would have them. I've reverted to a version that at least ranks the cities in the order of the populations given; however, the population figures do seem to be problematic (perhaps out-of-date)—they for the most part don't correspond to those given in our articles on the individual cities. Also, the source link at the top of the template mistakenly leads to information about the largest cities in Albania rather than Norway; but if one looks on the same site's list for Norway, it includes only 10 cities rather than the 20 in our template, with population figures that don't correspond at all to those in the template. Is there some source (recent census, perhaps) that can be used to straighten all this out and properly source the information in the template? I'm afraid this is quite beyond my expertise. Deor (talk) 14:17, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

What the IP did is clearly vandalism. When it comes to sourcing, ssb.no is a good place to look and I will have a look later on. The numbers look correct, but they are organized after "highest populated urban area" instead of "highest populated municipalitites" which is the most common in Norway. Mentoz86 (talk) 14:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Population for cities is problematic for Norway, because the official definition of city (or town) doesn't correspond to the popular definition. It would be more reliable to have a list of largest urban areas in Norway and/or a list of largest municipalities in Norway. There are reliable sources for both of these, but not cities/towns. Ters (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I've just noticed that we also have Template:42 most populous cities of Norway, which specifies "urban settlements" and which is actually used in the articles about the places named, whereas Template:Largest cities of Norway is transcluded nowhere in article space except the "Demographics" section of Norway itself. Perhaps the best solution is simply to redirect the latter to the former, but I'll leave the matter to you folks. Deor (talk) 16:28, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Just noticed this: Category:Norwegian military athletes. What is a military athlete? A sportsperson who competes in specific military events such as military pentathlon? A sportsperson who served in the military while active on an elite level, before, or later? Is the one-year compulsory service enough, or would they have to attend befalsskole or krigsskole? I think the category is flawed as it stands. Geschichte (talk) 09:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I believe it's just a translation of de:Kategorie:Sportsoldat (Norwegen), and it looks like the Germans have mixed biatlethes with military officers who happened to be athletes. Alexander Os don't belong in this category, which leaves us at one article in that category. Might be a bit overcategorization, but the subcat should be kept. Mentoz86 (talk) 22:01, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

If you look at Sigurd Haanes' education he was not a soldier by profession either, he just volunteered in the war, after (as it effectively ended) his sports career. Geschichte (talk) 08:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, maybe not only professional soldiers, but also those who have served in the army during war-time. At first glance, the biatlethe(s) should be removed while maybe Sigurd Wathne and others like it might be added to the category. Looking at the whole tree, it's just the Austrian, French and Italian cat that is populated. Maybe something for CfD ? I don't know to be honest. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:46, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I still don't think they are "military athletes" just for having been athletes at one point and served in the military at another. I am therefore depopulating the category now, effectively discontinuing it with no prejudice for recreation by someone who can define and establish the term "military athlete" (though we already know about military pentathlon). Geschichte (talk) 20:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

A military athlete is an athelete who is a member of the armed forces and competes in military sporting championships. Many Norwegian athletes compete with support from the Norwegian military. The biathletes and the skiers have been the most common but other sports have been supported as well. Individual athletes are supported as members of the armed forces in addition to the more regular sponsoring of sports. This is common in all countries but not wiedly known in Norway. I remember seeing Raphael Poire in a French army uniform, but have rarely seen Norwegian athetes acnowledge their military support. Liv Grete Poire in comparison is/was a Home Guard soldier (http://www.fofo.no/OL-kongen+bommet+i+milit%C3%A6rt+VM.b7C_wBDWYQ.ips ) as most of the Norwegian military athletes are and competed in military championships, but I have never seen her in uniform in the press. I remember Bjørn Dæhlie did mention his HV-background and has been active publicly on several occations (http://arkivgd.ha-nett.no/vis_sak.asp?refnum=11153). Ole Einar Bjørndalen, Dag Bjørndalen, Egil Gjelland, Tor Arne Hetland, Kristen Skjeldal, Anders Aukland and Tom Stiansen to mention a few Norwegian military athletes from the link above. All were home guard soldiers and competed in the military world championship.

I think the category could be usefull. It is possible to verify and the information is notable.

Inge (talk) 21:37, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

People that have participated in military sporting championship, fair enough. But you mention other athletes with a background from HV, right? That would be about 90% of all Norwegian male athletes wouldn't it, as I don't believe any athlete would have a good reason to skip the Conscription, and most people are later called up to HV. If you include HV in such a category, it would be overcategorization in my opinion. Mentoz86 (talk) 08:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

It was not my intention to imply that all athletes with some previous military connection should be included. Only those who have competed at a certain level in military sports or military sporting championships. All of my examples above fits that bill. The HV link is simply that as far as I know the majority of the Norwegian military athletes were/are connected to HV. This must be for practical reasons as all other units demand full time employment. You can also volunteer for HV without prior military service, which I wonder if several of the athletes have done to be allowed to compete.(NSF)

As a side note: there is a special quota of exemption afforded to top athelets who wish to skip conscription to concentrate on sports. Something no other profession in Norway is awarded. As a concequence many male top athletes have not done military training.(Olympiatoppen)Inge (talk) 14:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Maybe we need as article about this concept. Ters (talk) 15:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea, and when the article is up and running (and well-sourced), we might recreate the category. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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Anyone here bothered about this? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I think the article Gunnar Sønsteby needs some work and would like to propose a team effort to improve it. Inge (talk) 20:59, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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Bergen Oilfield Services is a Norwegian company that filed for bankruptcy in 2011. However, that does not necessarily mean it no longer operates. I tried to do some research to find out if the company is still operating but didn't have much luck. Anyone know of anything or a better way to find out?

The only thing I can find is that a lawyer has been put in charge of the company's assets (and the corresponding holding company's separately), which as far as I can tell is with the purpose of selling them in order to pay back as much debt as possible. I can't find the English terms corresponding to the Norwegian ones. Ters (talk) 14:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

The main page for our project doesn't look very inviting, I think. If someone with an eye for visual design and care for our outward appearance would give it a makeover, that would probably be a good idea! __meco (talk) 10:33, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

There must be references out there somewhere. What are we missing. Is there another name?

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reservestridsproviant

Also, if someone has a can of the stuff and a camera, we would love an image.

Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I'm posting this to some norwegian wikipedians on en:wp. Please take a look at no: Wikipedia:Wikievent_Stiklestad_juli_2012.

Jeg tror det er første gangen vi i Norge prøver et wiki-event utenfor de store byene. Dette er ikke et kurs i wikipediaskriving, men en mulighet for allerede erfarne skribenter til å få kompetent informasjon om stedet og det de holder på med der. En slags «pressevisning», VIP-pleie eller 1-dags wikipedian-in-residence. Vi har lagt opp et program som jeg tror vil interesse de fleste som er opptatt av norsk historie, kirkehistorie og/eller kulturhistorie. Med vennlig hilsen, Orland (talk) 10:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Minner om dette; det er plass til flere. Mvh --Orland (talk) 20:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

When adding info to the Norwegian Football Cup finals in the beginning of the 20th century, I often find wikiarticles about people with identical names that was between 20 and 30 years at the time of the final, which indicates that it could be the same person. If you for instance look at Niels Onstad, do you believe it is likely that the former shipowner and art collector played in the 1928 Norwegian Football Cup final? I'm not going to do any own research and change anything without a source, but I'm curious if people notable for anything else then being a footballer could have won the football cup when they were "young". Mentoz86 (talk) 18:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Niels Onstad, later shipowner and wife of Sonja Henie, played football for Lyn in his younger days. He played as defender on the club's first-team. (Source: Andersen, Alf G. (1985). Som i en drøm – Sonja Henies liv. p. 146.) Oceanh (talk) 22:11, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that's awesome. I really didn't except an answer, just some thoughts whether it could be possible :P I'll come back and ask you again if I find other people that might have been playing football aswell. Mentoz86 (talk) 19:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

There is a discussion in the talk:Religion in Norway pages on the status of the Norwegian Humanist Association and how it should be dealt with in that article. The first issue is whether a line should show for it in a bar chart and a second issue is whether the article should be renamed to reflect that legally Humanism is a "life stance" and not a religion though as far as I can see for many practical purposes it is treated like a religious denomination. I would welcome some thoughts from people actively involved in the Norway project. --Erp (talk) 15:10, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought such a category existed previously, but when I enter Category:Norway under-21 international footballers it doesn't show that it has been deleted. Have this category existed under a different name? If so, why was it deleted, and if not, can I proceed with creating such a category? Mentoz86 (talk) 13:30, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

hi im ashish kc neupane from nepal.i want to try abroad for my further studies im good in sports and have taken parts in different level of coaching in basktball from foreign coaches since there arent any sports colleges in nepal i want to do sport science so can u please help me out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.166.199.110 (talk) 06:29, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I am quite uncomfortable bringing this up, but I feel a need to ask if others have the same impressions about two accounts that are fairly prolific in some of the same areas as the other socks of banned sockmaster Sju hav (talk · contribs), namely Roghue (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log) and Pass a Method (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log). Could Sju hav have been operating several simultaneous accounts, yet keeping activity and focus of some in such a manner that they went undetected until the more activist-focused accounts were blocked? I'm asking here to solicit some reactions before I decide whether to file more sockpuppet complaints related to the Sju hav individual. (See also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sju hav/Archive) __meco (talk) 12:34, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I have no experience with Pass a Method, but I have seen quite a lot of Roghue's edit, and I'm confident that he is not a sockpuppet of Sju hav. From my experience, Roghue is trying to contribute positively to articles about Aalesunds FK and politics (even though his political view might be the same as Sju hav's). Mentoz86 (talk) 13:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, good about that. I just would like to comment that I do think also that Sju hav was attempting to contribute positively, and was so even for the most part. The problem was apparently block evasion. Even in one of the last rounds I implored the user to keep away for the minimum six-month period and then request an unblock, but that was not how the individual chose to go about it, unfortunately. __meco (talk) 14:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Well yeah, some of Sju hav's contributions are positive, but it's a reason that he was blocked in the first place, wasn't it? Roghue has now been blocked by Rettetast as a sockpuppet, without further explanation. Maybe that's why there are so few Norwegian editors in here; every time a new user come along and do stuff that one of the admins in this projects dislike, the user gets blocked as a "sockpuppet of Sju hav"? Mentoz86 (talk) 18:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

If that is the case, that is extremely unfortunate, obviously! I started this thread to make a "gentle" approach, i.e. to add an additional layer of checks to avoid innocent users being affected. Perhaps that has backfired. Also, if those of us with adminhood are too trigger-happy, not giving adequate attention to procedure and caution, that may have to be addressed as a separate issue also, perhaps not in this forum. __meco (talk) 13:45, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I have warned a suspicious account, Lucabrak (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log). I suppose we can do nothing but keep an eye on it for now. __meco (talk) 16:41, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

He didn't like the warning, and wrote a post about it on User talk:Jimbo Wales. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Strange people. If I wanted to avoid sockpuppet accusations, I wouldn't edit like a seasoned editor with a brand new account. Yet for all their experience, they haven't realized that it's easier to revert what they write than it is for them to write it in the first place. Ters (talk) 11:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

We seem to be doing well when it comes to applying {{lang-no}} to automatically include articles in Category:Articles containing Norwegian language text. The problem is when the order is reversed, i.e. when the Norwegian prahse appears first and the English translation follows in parenthesis. The solution to this is to use {{lang}} This is done in the following way: {{lang|no|dette er norsk tekst}}. See this example. __meco (talk) 13:18, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Three years ago, Norwegian football league were named Norwegian Premier League, Norwegian First Division, Norwegian Second Division and Norwegian Third Division. Then the top three league were renamed to their sponsor-names, and after the Second Division changed it sponsor name it was moved back to Norwegian Second Division. User:Eldumpo has started a discussion on Talk:Norwegian Second Division if that article should be moved to 2. divisjon which is the name that all the sources uses, and I want more comments from some experienced Norwegian editors. --Mentoz86 (talk) 19:07, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Someone at the WP:Help desk claiming to be Falk Rovik is disputing the factual accuracy of a mention of him being a "convicted murderer" in the Erik Solheim article. According to an article used to cite this claim Rovik was "ruled insane and sentenced to 10 years preventive detention". Is being found insane the same as being found guilty of murder in the Norwegian judicial system? Hack (talk) 03:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Aftenposten is likely to be at least as reliable as most Norwegian speaking Wikipedians, though even Aftenposten might be out of their depth when it comes to English legal terms for all I know. (For me, the question of guilt here becomes philosophical.) Ters (talk) 05:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi all. Zafer is being nominated for deletion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zafer_Aracag%C3%B6k . I figure you folks would know best if they were notable or not. I'm having trouble deciphering if he has notable refs or not. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 01:38, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hello! I am interested in theater history and are currently focusing on the first professional actress in Norway, whom I have identified as Christiane Hansen. The first permanent professional public theater in Norway was as I understand the theatre of Johan Peter Strömberg in Oslo in 1827. In this article: , Christiane Hansen (later married Lang Bocher) is briefly mentioned as the first actress of note on that theatre. But that is all. I have found nothing more. Does any one here now anything more? At least the year of birth and death? Is she perhaps more easy to find under a different name? I do think she should have an article here, and given information, I would gladly start it myself. Thank you.--Aciram (talk) 18:03, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

According to road signs in Norway, the sign at right means "wrong way" and was introduced in 2012, (citing http://www.hast.as/index.php?page=skilting). It's clear what "Stopp" means; what does "SNU" refer to? 72.244.206.6 (talk) 03:58, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Turn around. --Hordaland (talk) 04:18, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

And it shouldn't be capitalized differently than stopp. Putting it on the SNU disambiguation page seems unnecessary. It's just an overgrown no entry sign to catch the attention and guide (stereotypically elderly) people who don't understand grade-separated junction. Ters (talk) 08:50, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

An editor has requested comment at WT:MOS, which may affect the way some biographical articles within the scope of this Wikiproject are styled. The discussion is at WT:MOS#Translation of patronymics. Daicaregos (talk) 11:27, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Contributors to this project may be interested in proposed merge of Snus and Naswar at Talk:Snus/Archives/2013#Merge discussion. Cnilep (talk) 03:19, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I have been looking at biographical stubs of unelected officials, particularly non-notable, very short orphaned articles lacking references etc. I’ve found a set of 97 articles at Category:Norwegian diplomat stubs, which seem to fit this pattern.

The standard of notability has been set at WP:DIPLOMAT which explains, "Diplomats who have participated in a significant way in events of particular diplomatic importance that have been written about in reliable secondary sources. Sufficient reliable documentation of their particular role is required." May I ask which Norwegian publications should be regarded as “reliable secondary sources”? Does this project have a view on this?

Thank you for your cooperation. Regards. --Kleinzach 13:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I am signed up a member of this project, but hasn't been involved in creating these articles. I notice many of them use Store norske leksikon (SNL) as their source. That's the leading traditional encyclopedia in Norway and an entry there will often be seen as a strong indication of notability by Norwegian editors. But the entries in SNL for these diplomants appear to be short and CV-like, and I think you may be right in your suspecion that many of these aren't notable by the Wikipedia guideline you quote. If they have an entry in Norsk Biografisk Leksikon (NBL) it might be a stronger indication of notability, as these entries are longer. Other than that, coverage in history books and other academic papers etc. may make some of these diplomats notable, but this isn't so easy to check. Some of the diplomats are notable as politicians or in other civil servant positions.

• Below is a list of some of those I believe are notable (alphabetically by surname):
• Rolf Trolle Andersen Lord Chamberlain
• Kjell Colding (politician)
• Kjell Eliassen (nbl)
• Torbjørn Frøysnes (politician, dm parliament)
• Åge Bernhard Grutle - Lord Chamberlain
• Bjørn T. Grydeland - Secretary General at the Office of the Prime Minister (highest civil servant position in Norway)
• Geir Grung (diplomat) – Spokesman for the Defence Ministry
• Mette Kongshem (politican)
• Bjarne Lindstrøm undersectretary of state in the Foreign Ministry (highest civil position in the ministry, described as powerful in media).
• Wegger Christian Strømmen (politican)
• Regards, Iselilja (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Iselilja: (great name!) Thank you very much, that's very helpful. I've taken all the names above off my list, destubbing most of them and add refimprove tags where necessary. Best. Kleinzach 00:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

People with entries in SNL, a renown paper encyclopedia meet WP:GNG. Articles should be "destubbed" only if they are not stubs. Geschichte (talk) 07:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

IMO a single mention in SNL, without satisfying WP:DIPLOMAT, does not guarantee notability by WP standards. --Kleinzach 08:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

A subject either has to meet a subject-specific guideline, or WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 16:56, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Is it only me? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 19:58, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

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• Regards, Iselilja (talk) 17:24, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello. If any members live in or are visiting up north around Vardø, I'd love it if you'd take photos of the Steilneset Memorial so that we can illustrate this article with a Commons image. :-) cheers hamiltonstone (talk) 13:07, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Care to have a look at this submission? Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

God dag! Would you mind checking out this submission? Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 01:16, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Do you want a list of suggestions, or may I just go in and make some corrections myself? (There are a lot of little grammar errors.) --Hordaland (talk) 04:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe the user wanted us to review the submission, but you should go ahead and do the corrections as this article most likely will be in the main-space soon. Looks like a decent article where the subject passes GNG, so I might go ahead and review it when I have time. Mentoz86 (talk) 07:37, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

OK, neighbor. (Eg er i Arna.) --Hordaland (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

• Go ahead and review it if you wish. We need as many experienced reviewers as possible! Takk, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Would anyone care to make an archive of the oldest debates at Talk:Oslo? I am not familiar with the procedure for doing this, but many sections date back to 2010 and prior, and I think they can be safely archived. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 07:49, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I'll go ahead and do it, though I'll sign some of the newer unsigned comments first. Mentoz86 (talk) 08:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I've now archived everything before 2011, and set the MiszaBot to archive every thread that is older than 1 year. Mentoz86 (talk) 08:43, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 08:52, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

The usage of Veterans Day (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Veterans Day (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Veterans Day (United States) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:Veterans Day (United States).

Indirectly, this concerns also Veterans Day (Norway). -- 签名 _sig at 08:20, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

The Norwegian Environment Agency was created in 2013 through a merger of two other agencies. I have created an article for it, but what should be done with the articles for the two former agencies; should they be listed as defunct or redirected to the new agency? And in the last case, what should be the listed as the establishing year for the new agency? Regards, Iselilja (talk) 09:47, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Defunct if you ask me. Geschichte (talk) 09:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

That's probably right, I did it now. I am not quite sure what to do with the diffent categories, but I guess that doesn't really matter a lot. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 10:32, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

It isn't exactly the field I edit the most in, but departments changes name every four years when a new government is elected – what has been done to the Wikipedia-articles when this has happened previously? Mentoz86 (talk) 10:39, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

This isn't a department, but an agency, which do not change names that often. It's also not just a simple name change, but a reorganization, which is also usually the case for departments. If departments get a new article for every reshuffle, then I guess it's okay in this case as well. I they don't, that doesn't mean it's wrong to do so in this case. It might also be a good idea to look at how mergers are handled for other kinds of organizations. I think it might depend on how much there is to write about the different organizations, past and present. Ters (talk) 16:50, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

English_exonyms#Norway. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:33, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

In the intro (if you will), in the third paragraph and the last few sentences I found a few sentences that came across as fairly biased:

Key domestic issues include immigration and integration of ethnic minorities, maintaining the country's extensive social safety net with an aging population, and preserving economic competitiveness.[2][11] Petroleum industry accounts for around a quarter of the country's gross domestic product.[12]

I do not know if this group are made up of Norwegians, but I myself is a Norwegian, and I find it a bit odd that "immigration and integration of ethnic minorities" are lined up as number one here. It made me think that it is probably someone who votes for FrP who wrote it.

I strongly recomend you change it. It is in fact not such a big issue in Norway that it even deserves mentioning here. At least if you insist on keeping it there, please put it last, at the very least.

Thank you.

Kine Larsen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.67.124 (talk) 20:08, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree. I didn't remove the item, but I moved it further down, as suggested. Hordaland (talk) 22:11, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I did a Google search on Norway "Key domestic issues include immigration and integration of ethnic minorities" and found that exact text on many, many web pages. Some detective work showed that it comes from the U.S. government (see the refs for "key domestic issues" in the article Norway, presently #2 and 11), notably the CIA. Unless a Norwegian source is found for this claim, it shouldn't be in the article. Removing it. Hordaland (talk) 20:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt (talk) 08:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

A few weeks ago I made a resource request in connection with the article for Skiringssal, but no-one's bitten yet: I wonder if perhaps no-one outside Norway would have access to the book in question, and if anyone here might be able to help, or perhaps put me in touch with the Norwegian Wikipedia equivalent of WP:RX? I've had a look for that but haven't found it yet, if there is one – I see there's one for German... Or any suggestions welcome. Thanks. Nortonius (talk) 22:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Draugr, recently moved to Draug, should be moved back. The discussion may be found at Talk:Draug#New requested move discussion: return article to Draugr. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:17, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

In the first sentence, the word Dragsvik points to a location in Finland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.17.201 (talk) 18:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

The Dragsvik in this article is a village in Norway, in Sogn og Fjordane county. It is called Dragsviki (with an additional 'i') in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_villages_in_Sogn_og_Fjordane — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.81.128 (talk) 18:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Google Maps also has it as "Dragsviki", so I've changed it to that, and done a little tidy. Nortonius (talk) 18:28, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I've been through Dragsvik, Norway, many times. (There's not much there but the ferry dock.) Now I've just looked it up in the new map book from the automobile assoc in Norway, just to be very sure, and there is no "Dragsviki". So I've changed our Dragsvik article to Dragsvik, Finland. Anyone wikilinking Dragsvik will be sending people to the Finnish railway station, as before, but they'll see that they've arrived at Dragsvik, Finland.

(Perhaps, formally, someone should write a stub about the ferry dock in, and the ferry connections from, Dragsvik, Norway. Then Dragsvik could be a disambiguation page.)

But I hope this is OK! --Hordaland (talk) 01:09, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

The officially correct spelling is Dragsviki, for what it's worth. For those that don't know Norwegian language laws, that means it's illegal for Norwegian government agencies to spell it differently. (The spelling has however been grandfathered from previous laws.) Ters (talk) 05:57, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks! --Hordaland (talk) 06:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Riksakten. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I've seen that an article exists both for Nautgardstind and for Nautgardstinden. These describe the same feature AFAICS. There is also only one Wikidata-item, which is linked with Nautgardstind, no:Nautgardstinden and nn:Nautgardstinden. Can anyone merge the two English Wikipedia-articles Nautgardstind and Nautgardstinden? --Floscher (talk) 18:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Nautgardstinden was a very short article so I redirected it to Nautgardstind without any merging. Thanks for noticing. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 18:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Operation Provident. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 00:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

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More eyes are needed on the Jens Stoltenberg article, see also Talk:Jens_Stoltenberg#Removal_of_content_on_Stoltenberg_and_Israel, Wikipedia:BLPN#Jens_Stoltenberg, Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Jens_Stoltenberg, and User_talk:Bjerrebæk#Content_removal_from_Jens_Stoltenberg. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Input in the discussion here would be appreciated. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 20:49, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I need some help sourcing an article, Kule Kidz Gråter Ikke. From what I can find via a Google search, the film seems to have a lot of hits and at first glance seems to be notable. However since I speak no Norweigan, I'm at a huge disadvantage here. Can someone help find sources? I'd hate to see this deleted because the sources are in another language and the people searching are only fluent in English, which happens all too frequently, sadly. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

I added interwiki, but you've done a good job, so there isn't much to add. --torstein (talk) 17:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

A discussion on whether to change the title of this article to "Storting" is taking place at Talk:Parliament_of_Norway#Requested_move. All input welcome. Thank you. ^walk victor falk ^talk 02:05, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Dear Norway experts: This old AfC submission will soon be deleted as a stale draft. It has references, but they are not in English. Is this a notable designer? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Anne Delong Looking at the sources and googling a bit I didn't see anything that indicated notability. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 15:18, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Iselilja; I will let it go. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:27, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Draft:Helvetestinden. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 01:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Please do weigh in on an ongoing deletion discussion related to Norway. Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Pleas add information about this country to this articles. --Kaiyr (talk) 17:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

•  Done --Hordaland (talk) 23:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

The 1865 census contains information about ethnicity and language in at least parts of southern Norway as well. That can be seen in the census itself, which is available, but I'm not sure how or if that can be used as a source. Ters (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

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Someone recently created the page Fredrik Skogsrud and it's nominated for deletion as a BLP without any sources. So far I can't find anything that really shows that he's notable enough for an entry. I found an article in a smallish newspaper, but so far nothing else. Anyone want to see if they can find anything? The article asserts that he's known for one show, but I don't speak/read Norwegian and I can't tell exactly how notable his role was within the show. I get the impression it's a minor character, though. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:10, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Reading the Norwegian Bokmål article about the TV series "Costa del Kongsvik": it's a comical 10-part series that started 4 March this year; it's a follow-up to two earlier series and again all the main characters are played by the same woman. The 30-minute short film "Leo" hasn't premiered yet; here's a 30-second teaser for it. Fredrik himself doesn't have an article in either of the Norwegian language Wikipedias. His resume is here.

Without good arguments, I can't see that he is notable! --Hordaland (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

• That's kind of what I was assuming, but I wanted to double check just in case. Thanks! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

More detailed information about Denmark and Norway as Allied nations is missing, at Allies of World War II#Denmark and Allies of World War II#Norway. All help in fleshing out these (and other sections in the article as well) much appreciated! ^walk victor falk ^talk 16:31, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Has it ever been discussed here (and consensus found) on whether Norway articles ought to use US or British English? It might be advantageous to determine that at the Project level, or at least to involve more people in the discussion. It would be nice to avoid argument about this in future. The matter is being discussed/argued at the article Norway, not on the Talk page but in these edit summaries:

• spelling per WP:ENGVAR by script
• rv per WP:ENGVAR: no consensus obtained for change
• rv anti-ENGVAR reversion; no consensus to NOT use British/global spelling re Norwegian articles; UK English is the model most Norwegians learn/use; imposing US spellings there is not called for, nor has there been any consensus to mandate THAT
• rv: please read WP:ENGVAR - it is crystal clear that there is no legitimate reason to change the English variant in an article without strong national ties to the topic. Norway is not British, so this stays at the original variant
• ...reply: WHAT "original variant". go back in teh history; -ised was there for a long time until -ized....and "aging" just looks weird (I'm Canadian btw); strong national ties can mean "type of English used"

I understand the argument for British English; that variant has been taught in Norwegian schools for a very long time and Britain is one of Norway's nearest neighbours. However, WP:ENGVAR says to decide this matter by consensus for each article, so deciding it for a whole Project may be considered to be against the rules. ENGVAR also specifies how to act if consensus is not reached. I'd rather see a 2014 consensus.

Regarding the article "Norway", I took a look at the last version in 2001. There I found both "organized" (USA) and "defences" (Brit.), so the matter was not settled then.

What do you think? --Hordaland (talk) 08:22, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

What is the spelling used in Norwegian dictionaries? Sweden is another country where British English and received pronunciation has always been the version taught in schools, and the Swedish-English and English-Swedish dictionaries in my bookcase, from publishing company Esselte and quite possibly the most widely used dictionaries of their sort, use Oxford spelling, which combines -ize with forms such as "colour". It may well be the same for Norwegian dictionaries. --Hegvald (talk) 10:06, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

This can be tricky, because Norwegian contributors, perhaps even all contributors with English as a non-native language, might not be very concious about British versus American English. We Norwegians are taught British English, but are thereafter exposed mostly to American English (although perhaps not so much in writing, as though television, movies and music). I write a mix myself, and would write exactly like the examples from 2001. What Norwegians are taught might have little in common with what Norwegians do. Those exposed to lots of American litterature, will most likely write closer to that, than the British English they were once taught. Futhermore, I don't quite buy it that articles about Norway must be written in British English because that's what Norwegians are taught in school. The article might just as well have been written by someone who's as American English as can be. But it's interesting as a Norwegian speaker to see that British versus American English can cause friction as well, although I don't think bokmål versus nynorsk ever went as far as to dictate that some articles about places in Norway must be in one or the other depending on what is used at that particular location, before the two were split into separate wikipedias. (Not that the spelling issues in Norwegian wikipedias ended with that.) I like the idea of just letting the one writing the main bulk of the article decide, but as is sometimes the case within Norwegian as well, that person might not be consistent with himself, like myself. One might then just have to "find some scales" and see which side the article leans to the most. Ters (talk) 19:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmm... It's been a few years now, but the learning material we used in school were all using British English, except on a few pages where it was bringing up U.S. politics and society and stuff and thus switching writing style and pointing out differences between the two. The paper English-Norwegian dictionaries are using British English, and for a few (common) words (like colour/color) the U.S. spelling variants redirects you to look up the word with the British spelling. For words with -ize/-ise the -ise version simply doesn't exist. The Norwegian-English dictionary has the British spelling variant first and may sometimes point out the U.S. spelling variant. The English-English dictionary we were allowed to use on the tests/exam have all the keywords in British English, but does point out when there are U.S. spelling variants. Online dictionaries is a completely different story...

But as user Ters said; with increasing amount of U.S. tv-series and films shown here, the influence of internet, the increasing accept for playing computer games and some popular English books also being available in almost every bookstore before the Norwegian translated versions (for example Harry Potter to mention one - which depending on the bookstore was selling either the U.K. version or the U.S. version) it becomes increasingly muddy how each person ends up writing - without thinking on it. But that said, on the tests/exams in school you would get red pen marks if you used anything but British spelling (at least by my teacher). Can't be bothered to look up the current official learning plans and regulations for English classes, but don't think too much have changed. If a bot ot someone really were to go through the articles and correct non-consistent spelling my personal opinion would be to go for British English because of how we learn it in school (but often forget and mix), the way dictionaries are listed, how the official English version of many public institutions/offices/agencies/titles are, and the much closer ties Norway has to the U.K. over the U.S. through history. --Hekseuret (talk) 12:03, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't make so big a deal of it, if not for the edits I see in articles (not just Norway-related) where the only change is honour to honor or neighborhood to neighbourhood. The edit summary sometimes even says "corrected spelling". Irritates me no end. --Hordaland (talk) 23:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

We learn British English in school and US English from television series and music. A people of many proletarians, Norwegians are, nevertheless, uncomfortable with received pronunciation, which they consider formal and a tad arrogant. Link Norwegians have a rather stereotypical understanding of the UK (more specifically England) and the US. The UK = Queen Elizabeth. The US = everyone wears t-shirts.

I am not sure whether it has ever been decreed somewhere, but Britain's English has been the officially preferred variant for over 1,000 years. Having studied English as an international language (a half year only), I am familiar with the several reasons for the expansion of US English in the late 20th century. The question is whether increasing popular use in Norway during the latest 20-30 years is sufficient for changing Norway's long-time established preference from British English to US English. Let me problematise it further: Norwegians (including myself) do not speak or write pure US English or pure British English, but usually a mix. One cannot claim that Norwegians have deliberately preferred US English, a variant they are not capable of identifying and mastering adequately.

The United States of America is an important friend and ally of Norway. However, Norway and Britain have unique cultural, historical, and political ties through over 1,000 years, and my opinion is that this should be reflected in the language of the Norway article. US English might be considered correct in 50 years from now, but in 2014, presenting Norway in US English would be too radical, the way I consider it. No More 18 (talk) 16:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

More eyes are needed on Prostitution in Norway. I mentioned a few concerns here: Talk:Prostitution in Norway#Biased article, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:19, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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The Ministry of the Environment (Norway) (Miljøverndepartementet) is now the Ministry of Climate and Environment (Klima- og miljødepartementet) as of Jan. 1, 2014. This may warrant some attention. Prburley (talk) 15:46, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Not only that, but it seems that also other aspects of the restructuring of ministries after the change of government in 2013 are not yet reflected in the articles, or just barely mentioned. Unfortunately, I don't know how to write about politics in English. Ters (talk) 10:02, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Someone created the page Bjelleklang and it's nominated for deletion as a BLP without any sources. So far I can't find anything that really shows that he's notable enough for an entry. therefore the article does not meet Wikipedia Notability guidelines .Samat lib (talk) 09:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

"BLP"? "he"? It's not a living person, it's a group. And a well-known one in Norway, at least in the 30+ demographics, although their peak popularity might have been before the web really took off. Ters (talk) 10:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

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One of the other wikipedias is having problems with the following topic: the powers that be, are not allowing text about the number of whistleblowers in the case and the number of police officers under investigation by the national police internal affairs investigators, in the Monica police investigation. (4 people of each category so far.) Other details about the case: an 8 year old allegedly committed suicide, the police investigation was laid to rest, a whistleblower on the police force results in renewed investigation, one suspect arrested (for the original crime) and a police chief stepping aside after the National Prosecutor chewed his hide. Involved in the case on the other wikipedia, and blocking contributors of the article, is an administrator who previously removed text and citation about local nationals being involved in a local massacre during World War Two. Is the topic of the Monica Case notable? --My banana-(and oil) republic inxs (talk) 18:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Tanks for writing this article, I live in the area (Rjukan) and this is importent for us. The Rjukan/Notodden World Heritage siste is in the Eastern Norway, not in the Western. This was World Heritage listing number eight In Norway, if all should be listed here. Gerdundula (talk) 20:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done – there was an error in formatting the template. Nortonius (talk) 21:57, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Anyone remember what was in the article 'Landsmål'? There was one, but it's been changed into a redirect to Nynorsk. --Hordaland (talk) 01:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't remember, having never seen the article before, but Wikipedia itself remembers: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Landsm%C3%A5l&oldid=468817047 Ters (talk) 06:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I had heard that Wikipedia remembers everything. Apparently that means everything.

• Landsmål, meaning "language of the land/country", was the name Ivar Aasen gave the Norwegian orthography he created in the 19th century. In 1885 it was adopted as an official language in Norway alongside Danish. In 1929, Landsmål was renamed Nynorsk. The name Landsmål is sometimes erroneously interpreted as meaning rural language or country language, due to the Norwegian use of the word "land" in the meaning "countryside, rural area".
• Before the advent of Landsmål, there was no written standard for Norwegian language, though written Danish, which was the commonly written language in Norway and generally intelligible by Norwegians, was sometimes referred to as Norwegian. Currently, the most widely written language in Norway is Bokmål (Dano-Norwegian), a Norwegianised descendant of the Danish language.

--Hordaland (talk) 02:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Redirects are normal pages that simply redirect. To get to the page without being redirected, the easiest way is probably to go to the page and get redirected, then click on the small link saying "redirected from". You can then view the history, and even the talk page, as normal. This only works when a page was simply made into a redirect. It doesn't work if a page was deleted, and then a redirect was made in its place later. (Even then, Wikipedia remembers, but only superusers can see the deleted page history, if I remember correctly.) Ters (talk) 21:06, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your good help! --Hordaland (talk) 08:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I welcome anybody with adequate Norwegian-English translation skills to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki. The current drive includes the creation of articles on Oslo parks. Given that google translate is poor for Norwegian I only managed some basic stubs. I encourage the improvement of stubs I created like Minneparken and for anybody to help create the others red linked on the project page to help Wp:Norway!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:10, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help with the article Captain Sabertooth, which is currently up for deletion. I get the impression that this is a pretty notable series in Norway, so there should be some sources in Norwegian. I'll see what I can find, but I'm limited to English language sources and whatever I can translate with Google, which has obvious flaws. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Our article about Gerhard Hansen mentions the Leprosy Museum in Bergen. I think a photo of the museum would add to that article. Perhaps preferably an indoor shot, gloomy, maybe including pictures on the walls of patients? It's actually a very fascinating (and gloomy) little museum. --Hordaland (talk) 12:21, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Is there any chance a user fluent in Norwegian could quickly confirm a proposed DYK hook? The relevant discussion can be read here. Gatoclass (talk) 04:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

If your question is simply whether

When "Dead Snow" was launched, it was Jenny's sex scenes in the outhouse that got attention.

is a correct translation of

Da «Død Snø» ble lansert, var det Jennys sexscener på utedoen som fikk oppmerksomhet.

the translation is correct. (And I can't say that about many other sentences in that article). The article is from July 2011. In the original, there is a link that goes to another sex-filled article (January 2010, translated into poor English) about Jenny and her boyfriend.

If you're wondering whether Jenny S. will appreciate the mention or whether this is appropriate for Wikipedia, I have no opinion. :)

--Hordaland (talk) 05:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Hordaland, but it seems I didn't make clear what needed translation. The hook for which we need confirmation was:

... that Norwegian actress Jenny Skavlan (pictured) has been "a bit annoyed" by the media's fixation on her body?

The relevant part of the reference translates in Google translate as:

She admits that she is a bit tired of the films always featured with her lettkledthet.

- It is used often in some promotion, yes.

- Is it okay for you?

- It has not led to any permanent damage, but I can get a bit annoyed. But aside from that, so am I doing fine. I do not go home and cry and lies in the fetal position at night, says Skavlan.

The word "lettkledthet" doesn't translate into English, so I can't tell whether or not the hook is correct to say she is "a bit annoyed by the media's fixation on her body". Any chance you could translate that? Gatoclass (talk) 06:34, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout the conversation going on in two places. I've just answered that question over there (Did you know - Talk).--Hordaland (talk) 06:57, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Can somebody please translate the sentence Hun innrømmer at hun er litt lei av at filmene alltid promoteres med hennes lettkledthet? Gatoclass (talk) 08:48, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

"Scantilycladness", or being scantily clad, are translations of "lettkleddhet". --Gazprompt (talk) 21:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

What is notable about actors and actresses who are former models, approaching their thirties lamenting about "too much focus" on their bodies/sex appeal etc. when movies are being promoted? Has any research been done that indicates a Barbra Streisand Effect, even an intended one at times, when thespians/models complain in this manner? --Gazprompt (talk) 22:03, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

There are more and more one-liners about neighbourhoods in Norway. I believe that the majority of them should be removed. Xx236 (talk) 06:22, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi all. I'm working on improving all wikipedia articles related to the Norwegian pop band M2M .I recently managed to get the article for their debut single Don't Say You Love Me to good article status. Anyway i'm trying to expand their main article but Bing Translator just isn't helping enough with a couple sentences in this Verdens Gang source:

Hitlåten «Everything» er myntet på nettopp Zach Hanson, forteller hun. Vi datet. Han spilte trommer i Hanson. Etter turneen ringte han ikke, vet du. Da ble telefonen stille. Det var bare turneen, så var det over.

The bold part is all I need translated, the preceding stuff is just so you can understand the context. Bing gives me "After the tour he called not, do you know when the phone was quiet. It was just the tour, it was over." I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what that's supposed to mean; i'm trying to figure out why she wrote the song about him. Any clarification would be helpful. Thanks. Freikorp (talk) 06:11, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I haven't gone to the source, and I do not know the song nor the situation. This is how I'd translate your bolded line, Etter turneen ringte han ikke, vet du. Da ble telefonen stille. Det var bare turneen, så var det over.

After the road trip he didn't call, you know. The 'phone was quiet. It was just the trip, then it was over.

--Hordaland (talk) 06:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much, that's very helpful! :) Freikorp (talk) 10:40, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I think tour is a better choice of words than road trip, at least judging by what is on the articles for respective words here. Ters (talk) 20:34, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm looking for the coordinates for Sula Reef. Can anyone help? This shows maps, but I can't seem to find it. Here is a map site for your convenience where you can click "permanent link" at the left to get the coords. Many thanks for any help you can offer. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:26, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

The pink square off the coast on page 96 here? I think it says "Sularevet". Is that Sula? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:59, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Back in August, I identified an issue with the Bergen article, whereby a (now-banned) editor had replaced lots of fairly well written prose with single-sentence paragraphs, significantly impairing the article. If this had been picked up at the time (more than a year previously), it would have been an easy revert, but it wasn't and in the meantime, good edits have been made. Is anyone willing to help try to identify which parts of the article should be reverted? Please see the discussion here. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:29, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear Editors, by reading the article on Stavanger, I realised a contradiction: the part of immigrants in the total population is 20,2% or 11,9%? Both rates are indicated, the first without reference. Could you please check it? Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.222.149.252 (talk) 12:03, 13 December 2015 (UTC)