Draft talk:Mr. Beat

A while ago, I created a source assessment table to help keep track of whether or not any of this draft's sources are enough to determine notability. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 12:20, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for rescuing the draft. Despite the AfD vote, I'm fairly confident that Beat is at least borderline notable -- most of the sources about him are recent, and I don't doubt that more will arrive given his increasing popularity. Billclinton1996 (talk) 11:30, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

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Source assessment table

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Kraske, Steve; Wilson, Zach (2024-11-14). "Kansas-based YouTuber Mr. Beat explores how the Supreme Court shaped democracy". KCUR NPR. Retrieved 2025-07-08.	Interview with subject			✘ No
"Dole Institute spring programming season opens with Kansas governors Sebelius and Hayden, bestselling author Sharon McMahon". University of Kansas. Retrieved 2025-07-08.	Written by Dole Institute staff member			✘ No
Chaudhary, Ananya; Dev, Krish (2023-06-03). "Teacher-tube". Monta Vista High School. Retrieved 2025-07-08.		~ High school student newspaper, perhaps useful for WP:ABOUTSELF		✘ No
Schneider, Tyler (2023-07-25). "Lawrence YouTuber, Mr. Beat, releases a new book on the history of the Supreme Court". The Pitch. Retrieved 2025-07-08.		WP:NEWSORG		✔ Yes
Cassidy, Taylor (2024-12-10). "History Through New Media". American History TV. Retrieved 2025-07-08.	Interview with subject	WP:NEWSORG		✘ No
Linenberger, Shawn (2019-07-25). "Tonganoxie High teacher named one of top teachers to follow on Instagram". The Mirror. Retrieved 2025-07-08.	Local-boosterish tone[a]	WP:NEWSORG		? Unknown
"Our Dad is a YouTube Star". Lawrence Kids. Retrieved 2025-07-08.		WP:CHILDRENSLIT		✘ No
"Matt Beat". Robert J. Dole Institute of Politics. Retrieved 2025-07-08.				✘ No
Dorn, Lori (2022-05-09). "A Brief But Detailed Recounting of Pink Floyd's Tumultuous History". Laughing Squid. Retrieved 2023-11-03.		Blog		✘ No
Spacek, Nick (2020-08-10). "YouTuber Mr. Beat's guide to the history of presidential elections is a charmer". The Pitch. Retrieved 2024-08-01.	Interview with subject	WP:NEWSORG		✘ No
Long, Chansi (2021-09-26). "This area teacher has quit his job as his new career as a YouTube celebrity takes off; speaking at Watkins tonight". Lawrence Journal-World. Archived from the original on 2021-09-26. Retrieved 2023-11-03.	~ Primarily WP:INTERVIEW, but comments from apparently unaffiliated museum director	WP:NEWSORG		~ Partial
"Popular YouTuber Mr. Beat to discuss U.S. Supreme Court at Raven Book Store event". The Lawrence Times. 2024-06-12. Retrieved 2024-08-01.	Primarily composed of book synopsis, press release	WP:NEWSORG	~ WP:ROUTINE	✘ No
Stern, Melissa (2015-02-16). "Local teacher and students petitioning to meet President Obama". FOX4KC. Retrieved 2024-08-01.	Secondary	WP:NEWSORG	Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr. Beat: "The Fox 4 source is not only based on an interview; it also quotes several other people, demonstrating depth of reporting and coverage."	✔ Yes
Linenberger, Shawn (2017-05-22). "KC's got the Beat, thanks to Tonganoxie High teacher". Tonganoxie Mirror. Retrieved 2024-08-01.	Local-boosterish tone[a]	Promotional		? Unknown
Roe, Sam (2024-07-30). "Sam Roe talks 2024 election with YouTuber historian Mr. Beat". KQ2. Retrieved 2025-11-07.	Interview			✘ No
"Popular YouTubers visit D-Day Conneaut". Gazette News. 2025-08-24. Retrieved 2025-11-07.	Apparently just an interview with Beat and a close collaborator			✘ No
"'Trump bulldozing the White House is a slap in the face of Americans rocked by the shutdown'". The Mirror.		~ WP:DAILYMIRROR	Is summary sigcov?	? Unknown
or-mr-beat-seeks-to-expand-u-s-house-with -silence-from-rep-mann/article_185e4196-7908 -40ba-8654-51221d45cd52.html "Lawrence Creator Mr. Beat". Kansan. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)				? Unknown
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Here's the source assessment table for convenient access and review. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 11:58, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Beat lists all of the interviews and news articles he's in on his Web site. While interviews don't generally count towards notability which is the main focus right now, they are useful primary sources that we can utilise to get rid of the excessive amount of stuff sourced to his YouTube videos. I note that a few of the potential news sources aren't in the article either, and the article would certainly benefit from their addition. Billclinton1996 (talk) 11:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Just reply if you think so. Liamlalaliam (talk) 16:08, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

it's well written, has plenty of reliable sources, and even has a lead image, somehow. i'd say put it through Nucg5040 (meow at me - see what i've done) 16:33, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

No. Wait until sources appear. The article was just declined at Afd. Before trying to submit the draft again, please inform the main contributors @MrPersonHumanGuy: and myself. Unilaterally submitting articles like this is an easy path to get this draft permanently rejected. Billclinton1996 (talk) 21:22, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. We submitted it a few days ago and we weren't planning on submitting it yet, tell me when. Liamlalaliam (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

I think we should publish this article as it is basically complete and this article is notable and extensive and ready for mainspace. I can guarantee you it won't be deleted. Liamlalaliam (talk) 15:14, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, the sourcing is exact same as the article that got AFD'd, where the primary concern were that sources were, well, primary, as almost all of them were based on interviews with Beat himself. I personally felt the notability was borderline, but this article will almost certainly get deleted in this state. Based5290 :3 (talk) 05:10, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

No! Stop trying to force this draft into mainspace. I fully agree with what @Based5290 said. The sources in the previous article were mostly primary and that is what they are right now. The draft has not radically changed to prove Beat's notable enough to surpass the Afd discussion which firmly established he was not notable at this time. It's going to get repeatedly declined and possibly even WP:SALTED if the article is pushed in too many times (see J.J. McCullough which is protected from creation due to repeated attempts to get him an article). It's not difficult to wait until sources appear. Billclinton1996 (talk) 17:18, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Ok... Liamlalaliam (talk) 13:57, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

I think I'm gong to do a little work on this page myself and I think we can get it into working order. BakedintheHole (talk) 20:04, 19 February 2026 (UTC)