Talk:Aria Bolkus

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Created by LivelyRatification (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

LivelyRatification (talk) 22:36, 24 March 2026 (UTC).

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Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - ALT0 might raise WP:DYKMAJOR eyebrows so I thought then unlinking the Paralympic swimmer part divert clicks towards the subject. But then I thought up something even more better; see below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Created five days ago, prose 1558 B. And given the V issue I brought up and the size of the article, there may be other things to add, such as what law firms she worked at (mentioned in ref 5) or his relationship with her dad (in ref 1). Here's my ALT1 per above:

@LivelyRatification: What do you think? ミラP@Miraclepine 21:57, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

    • @Miraclepine: I sort of agree on the WP:DYKMAJOR point, but it's the only hook I liked. I don't think the law firms are an interesting thing ("did you know that politician worked at X and Y law firm" hardly that intriguing), and while I guess it is more novel that the daughter of a minister worked at a cafe on the beach, I have two issues. The first is that I would prefer not to do a hook highlighting her father, because her notability has little to do with that, and I would want to avoid playing into potential "nepo baby" stuff, which I think is unfair to the article's subject. The second is that I don't think it's that interesting that the daughter of a minister worked at a cafe on a beach. Kamala Harris worked at a McDonald's as a teenager, and it's hardly surprising for politicians' kids to work odd jobs in their youths. Perhaps if the Bolkus family were exceptionally wealthy, or exceptionally powerful, it might be remarkable. What I would maybe suggest is ALT1c: ... that Aria Bolkus, a South Australian member of parliament and lawyer by training, worked her first job at a beachside cafe?
      If you think it's specifically remarkable that she worked at a cafe as a politician's daughter, let me know, but at the moment this is the option I prefer the most. --LivelyRatification (talk) 22:16, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Fixed the hook number since there's already an ALT1b; I'll have a response as soon as possible. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:41, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
@LivelyRatification: Now for my response: To be honest, I'm inclined to believe that ALT1a/b are enough to stand out given the disconnect between the climate expected of a major political family and a beachside cafe, though I do see where you are heading with the nepo baby issue, especially given this is a BLP we're talking. I'm inclined to approve ALT1c in the meantime - provided "and lawyer by training" is removed as unnecessary clutter - but the article doesn't say it was her first job, unlike ref 1 itself. Also, I didn't say the law firm part would be part of the hook, just that adding it to the article would help it pass the length mark. Speaking of, the removal now puts it below the length mark; please add more to the article or it will have to be failed. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:47, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
@Miraclepine: I have added the first job detail to the article, which I believe gets it over 1500 characters. (The DYKcheck tool tells me it was already above 1500, but the page size tool put it at 1492, both now put it above 1500.) I didn't realise you were making that point about the law firm, my mistake!
Here is my proposal: ALT1d: ... that Aria Bolkus, a South Australian member of parliament and daughter of a government minister, worked her first job at a beachside cafe?
I still am not terribly convinced that her being the daughter of a minister makes the beach cafe thing notable by itself, but I think it could certainly be intriguing -- as you say, it's not what one would expect -- and in addition with the mention of her career first and foremost I wouldn't object to it. --LivelyRatification (talk) 23:57, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Okay, considering that this fulfills my "daughter of an Australian federal minister" quirk and the concerns you raised about my first choice minimizing her to just a nepo baby re WP:DYKBLP, I think we can settle with ALT1d. Note to promoter et al: while "beachside" technically isn't in the article, Henley Beach, South Australia (the cafe's location) is still located on the side of a beach. Though you may wanna add what I suggested to the article given it's just skirting the length; oh, and I see the sourcing issue's resolved. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:25, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

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