Talk:Athelstane Township, Clay County, Kansas
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 | On 26 July 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from Athelstane Township, Clay County, Kansas to Athelstane Township, Kansas. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Requested move 26 July 2025
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus (non-admin closure) Tenshi! (Talk page) 18:05, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- Athelstane Township, Clay County, Kansas → Athelstane Township, Kansas
- Clay Center Township, Clay County, Kansas → Clay Center Township, Kansas
- Exeter Township, Clay County, Kansas → Exeter Township, Kansas
- Five Creeks Township, Clay County, Kansas → Five Creeks Township, Kansas
- Gill Township, Clay County, Kansas → Gill Township, Kansas
- Goshen Township, Clay County, Kansas → Goshen Township, Kansas
- Republican Township, Clay County, Kansas → Republican Township, Kansas
– There is no other township in Kansas named any of these names, so having the county name in the title is unnecessary. 2600:1700:6180:6290:DDE:4B30:11F3:FB21 (talk) 12:19, 26 July 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:44, 2 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 14:02, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment and weak support: This RM proposal was removed by a highly experienced editor who seems to have alleged that sockpuppetry was involved in its submission. I restored it since I don't see evidence of that and I don't see a problem with the RM content. On its face, this looks like a WP:CONCISE argument, saying the current titles contain an unnecessary degree of disambiguation. At first glance, that looks like a constructive suggestion to me, and I suggest that the proposal should be considered. I notice that Wilkes-Barre Township, Pennsylvania, Blendon Township, Michigan, Clarence Township, Michigan, Hay Township, Michigan, Blumfield Township, Michigan, Lower Merion Township, Pennsylvania, Bedford Charter Township, Michigan, Bunker Hill Township, Michigan, Union Township, New Jersey, Bridgewater Township, New Jersey, Kinderhook Township, Michigan, and others, do not have a county identified in their titles. I notice there was a back-and-forth renaming of Gill Township, Clay County, Kansas in November 2023. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:14, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose: 1) Low populated rural townships aren't generally known by most people, and I would bet that a very high percentage of people don't know which county a township belongs. 2) Renaming some townships articles of a county, but not renaming other townships articles provides zero useful benefits. 3) The current method used by the IP editor to rename these articles is a major problem, because script/bot edits are hidden from numerous editors that have their "watch list" filters set to filter out bot edits, and BTW this happened to me for this change request. This means using script/bot tools allows editors to do sneaky article renaming behind the backs of far too many editors, and I believe this practice should be stopped or changed. 4) In general, it is very suspicious for any "named account user" to hide behind scripts/bots as an "anonymous IP editor" to request article renaming. Doing this as an "anonymous IP editor" prevents such activities from being tied or tracked to their "named account", which is very concerning! If these activities aren't being done with their "named account", then it prevents other editors, like me, from leaving comments on the talk page of their "named account", as well as not seeing their history of doing such things. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 13:08, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
- If it is true that "a very high percentage of people don't know which county a township belongs" to, then it seems like we should support this proposal, because it would mean that people would be able to type the names of the articles without knowing what counties these townships are in. Once they have found the articles, they will find that information provided in it, to help them learn this and other things about the townships. — BarrelProof (talk) 15:36, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Kansas has been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPathtalk 14:02, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.