Talk:Coefficient Giving

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A fact from Coefficient Giving appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Open Philanthropy has made grants to causes ranging from recession prevention to cancer vaccines for dogs?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Did you know archive/2022/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Open Philanthropy (organization).

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Hi, an earlier version of this article had been merged with the GiveWell entry, back when Open Phil was still part of GiveWell. Now that Open Phil is a separate organization (with different staff, legal structure and office space) I think it makes sense for it to have its own article. In that case, I think the notices above should be removed, since they refer to that earlier version, which is unrelated to the current one (I wrote the article from scratch). What do others think? Pablo Stafforini (talk) 15:13, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Does not really matter too much in my opinion, but might as well keep it as part of the article's history (just as this section is also now part of the history). - Indefensible (talk) 22:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I removed the tag because I found it confusing. Ruthgrace (talk) 05:34, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Fixing notices

Hi, I am working on fixing the notices (too much reliance on primary sources and needs more citations). Ruthgrace (talk) 02:06, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Also I will be doing general copy editing and whatever else I think needs to be done to improve the article. Ruthgrace (talk) 02:07, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Open Philanthropy (organization)/GA1

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 (talk) 20:56, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

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... that in their mission to do good effectively, Open Philanthropy has made grants in causes ranging from recession-prevention to cancer vaccines for dogs? Source: Matthews, Dylan (2015-04-24). "You have $8 billion. You want to do as much good as possible. What do you do?". Vox. Retrieved 2022-02-06; Callaway, Ewen (20 December 2017). "Facebook billionaire pours funds into high-risk research". Nature.
- Reviewed: Julie Ngungwa

Improved to Good Article status by Ruthgrace (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC).

Starting review. Updates to follow shortly. Ktin (talk) 18:28, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

More information General: Article is new enough and long enough ...

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

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More information Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems ...

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

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Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - Noted below in comments.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria - was recently promoted to a good article. Meets length expectations. No issues with tone. This is a tricky space because while writing about organizations it is important to maintain a factual and neutral tone which I think this article does. I think this is validated by the other reviewer Mike Christie's notes as well. On the hook front - I have two concerns and would like to pass back to the nominator for their views. Firstly, my personal read is that the hook reads a tad WP:PUFF with a starting phrase that in their mission to do good effectively. Though one could very well make the argument that their mission is indeed to do good effectively. Nevertheless, I would encourage the nominator to consider rewriting that bit or maybe even consider dropping that bit. Secondly, I have seen DYK reviewers request that the hook be present in the article as-is or as close to the actual sentence as possible. In this case the phrases are indeed used across the article e.g. Grants include $6.4 million to Stephen Johnston and his team at Arizona State University to test a cancer vaccine for middle-aged pet dogs and the organization expects that the value of preventing recessions will be so many times higher than the cost of effective advocacy work that it is willing to invest in it despite success being "highly uncertain". The sourcing looks good. QPQ is done. Ktin (talk) 18:38, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

hey Ktin, thanks for the review! you make great points. Here's an adjusted hook taking your suggestion to make it less puffy:

ALT 1 * ... that Open Philanthropy has made grants in causes ranging from recession-prevention to cancer vaccines for dogs? Source: Matthews, Dylan (2015-04-24). "You have $8 billion. You want to do as much good as possible. What do you do?". Vox. Retrieved 2022-02-06; Callaway, Ewen (20 December 2017). "Facebook billionaire pours funds into high-risk research". Nature.

Ruthgrace (talk) 06:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Ruthgrace:. ALT1 looks good. Marking Approved. Ktin (talk) 16:24, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Just a drive-by comment but ALT1 is fine. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:43, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks all! really appreciate it :) Ruthgrace (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2022 (UTC)