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Hey Xhefri!

You ever come here, Jeff? This article seems like it could use some of your help, along with some links to your info. Darr247 (talk) 21:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

I think Xhefri's stuff is great, but it might fall foul of WP:RSSELF as far as Wikipedia is concerned. (If Xhefri has or were to publish magazine articles or book, that could be ideal.) My preference would be to treat Xhefri's stuff as a great resource for enthusiasts in its own right, additional to Wikipedia. The Parson's Cat (talk) 08:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Nitpicky bit about the 5 way selector switch

"The "quacky" tone of the middle and bridge pickups, popularized by players such as David Gilmour, Rory Gallagher, Mark Knopfler, Bob Dylan, Scott Thurston, Ronnie Wood, Eric Clapton and Robert Cray, can be obtained by using the pickup selector into positions 2 and 4." The 2 position combines the middle and the neck pickup, not the middle and bridge pickups. Both 2 and 4 are quacky, but this sentence makes it sound like both the 2 and 4 pickups are a combination of the middle and bridge pickups, which is inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.114.198.184 (talk) 06:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

In Fender's current service diagrams, position one is 'bridge' and position five is 'neck'. However I see exactly what you mean about he ambiguity and I hope I've fixed this OK. The Parson's Cat (talk) 15:13, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

History

Why is there nothing about the history of how the guitar was designed? There's no mention of the feedback Fender got from Bill Carson, who the guitar was designed for. It does mention it at the article Bill Carson (musician) however. Who designed the shape? (Freddie Tavares). Very little facts here except for models and sales, etc.

This article is more like Fender ad copy.

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No mention of the "The Strat" model in the 80s with gold-plated hardware, color matched headstock, special wiring. 174.89.103.189 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Current Models needs subsections, revisions, reoganization

Maybe it's just me, but I found the "current models" section of the article jumbled and difficult to follow. Therefore, I added subsections based upon the names of the current strat models according to Fender.com without any alterations to the pre-existing text, and immediately major problems became apparent. Most striking was the fact that there were two paragraphs about the american special series which were separated by a paragraph about the vintage hot rod series. Also, the text switches a great deal between describing the past and the present, which leads to further confusion, in my opinion. Finally, the VG Strat is no longer a current model, so I created (an admittedly terrible) extra section to contain it. I don't presume to know the best way to resolve the section on the VG Strat, other than to either delete it, or list all of the other discontinued strat models along with it, neither of which seem optimal.

Obviously, the article is also missing any mention of the remaining current series, which are (according to Fender.com):

  • Standard
  • American Vintage
  • Deluxe
  • Classic
  • Classic Player

Also, of course, the Artist Series, which appears later in the article as "Signature Models", which should probably be renamed to be consistent with Fender's current terminology.

I intend to continue to tweak this section (I'll probably rearrange the order of the sections as well - maybe all american first, then MIM - there's a couple different logical ways to organize it) if no one objects. Discussion is absolutely invited, as well.Bradford44 (talk) 15:20, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for starting reworking this part of the article! I have also struggled with those sections, partly because I'm concerned that some of it might fall into what Wikipedia isn't, particularly that Wikipedia generally isn't supposed to be a directory/catalogue, and attempting to have an exhaustive list of models would in my opinion fall into that category. While I don't have any great suggestions right now, I would welcome changes that attempt to reduce the amount of content so the readers can get an easy overview of the models. If they're curious about model details they can always visit Fender's website. Anyhow, thanks again for the initiative, great job! Nettrom (talk) 16:54, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the encouraging words, but reading over the current models again today, I see nothing but line after line of unsourced technical material which has no value whatsoever to the casual reader, so consequently I'm at a loss for the best course of action to proceed. I mean it's great (for example) that the "new for 2003" American Strat HSS came with a Diamondback humbucker and Tex-Mex single coils, but without any sources (or even wikilinks to those types of pickups), what possible value is anyone other than a fairly experienced and knowledgable guitarist going to get out of that content? You're exactly right that it's catalog material, but worse than that, it completely lacks context, i.e., what the heck is a Tex-Mex single coil and why should I care that the 2003 model has those instead of the pickups it used to have?
All that said, I still intend to put time into improving the article, and I remain very open-minded for suggestions. Bradford44 (talk) 14:06, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
You bring up very good points, and it's things I have also struggled with when working on other guitar-related articles. In my case I ended up spending a fair amount of time reading through reviews from (fairly) established guitar magazines, particularly Guitar World, Guitar Player, Premier Guitar, and Guitarist as those can be efficiently searched through Google. I have also been quite strict when writing my articles, which means I might end up trimming a lot of content, sometimes to the dislike of other editors. For some things it might be appropriate to refer to a user manual from Fender.com (they have some PDFs available), for other things I tend to prefer third-party descriptions like the ones from the magazines. I'll try to spend some time digging for some sources over the week-end to help you out. Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 15:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey also is this list complete? For example the Richie Kotzen signature models are not on this list, nor the James Burton Telecaster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.101.84.225 (talk) 11:33, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion. The article is looking a lot like a Fender company website promo piece. Please remove all the copy paste stuff from Fender website and please stop sourcing the article to Fender primary material. The article is pretty much a disaster, like a chatty blog. Just heaping information into it is a non starter and please do not start making lists of this and that. Wikipedia is not a list generator of things Fender or anything else. The article still needs cutting and proper sourcing. I took out a few un-sourced things, some tagged for many years. Earl King Jr. (talk) 03:27, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Ike Turner signature strat?

Should this be included in the Signature series section? Apparently it was limited edition made in 2004 and 100 were made. I don't know if this signature list includes limited editions. These can be found for sale on the internet from various dealers. I don't have full specs from a reliable source, but I know they're out there somewhereKaleeyed (talk) 13:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

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