Talk:Flag of Egypt

Poll

Option B. There's even an official website that includes it. Dmdjdu (talk) 20:41, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

Also, if we are going to keep the lighter version, we should also change the coat of arms itself. Dmdjdu (talk) 20:43, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

Will this also mean it'll be changed on the main page itself? Dmdjdu (talk) 20:50, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

Yes. It is likely that the consensus version will be placed at File:Flag of Egypt.svg on Commons, and the other version as a standalone file. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:53, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

But this isn't the only country that has this situation. If you go to Germany, the flag and the coat of arms aren't the same color when they're supposed to be. Dmdjdu (talk) 09:40, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

Well, the decision was made. Most people agreed to #C09300. So, should we discuss this with administrators or should we just settle this? Dmdjdu (talk) 00:46, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

@Dmdjdu: Ask WP:CR. Your statement should be brief and neutral with respect to the outcome. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:51, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

Option B. From what I saw on the discussion here, the sources support the second option more than the first. NotJamestack (✉️|📝) 20:47, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

• Option B, the version I'm sure most of us are familiar with and would intuitively say is correct. The United Nations lists that as the correct version, and I think they, if anyone, would know what colours to use for their member states' flags. –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley${\displaystyle \lor }$investigateᛅ} 17:30, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

  @Maltazarian, the pdf you linked has wrong/outdated variants of Bangladesh, India, Jamaica, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, Zambia, and who knows what else. Also, the shade of the Bangladesh flag, along with some other, is suspiciously same as the one wikipedia showed for many years. It's just a collection of flags found on the internet. Kaim (talk) 18:07, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

  Here is a summary published by the United Nations on their website of a statement made by Egyptian representatives alongside a high quality version of the flag. The colour used for the eagle is #c09300, which is actually exactly what Option B uses, so I will stick with it. –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley${\displaystyle \lor }$investigateᛅ} 18:37, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

  @Maltazarian, The UN is not dedicated to display correct flags of the countries. Here the UN is using the Golden Yellow flag, that is nowhere near to the darker version. And, the fact that the webpage is using the same svg is nothing surprising, as that what was downloadable from wikipedia in 2020. That is also true for India.

  Fun fact: Also, if you check the page for Slovakia, you'll see that in that svg the blue is #0b4ea2, when Slovakia specified it to be #254aa5. The #0b4ea2 is exact hex value Commons had for 15 years, for a extremely silly reason. The web-developer from the UN literally downloaded each flag from Commons, and now you're citing the same webpage in wikipedia. Kaim (talk) 19:11, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

  Actually, considering it can have diplomatic ramifications, I think the UN make an effort to use the correct colours for their flags. At least more than the Olympic Committee cares about it. Also, that picture isn't too helpful considering it shows the flag in real life and, in the image, the colour is somewhere between Option A and Option B. As the way colours appear in images depends on many different things, we can't tell what colour they actually used for it in real life. Also, it's not uncommon for real life flags and virtual depictions of them to use slightly different shades. A great example of this is seen in that image: the Flag of the United States. Absent sufficient reliable sources using #ffcd00 over #c09300 the latter still seems like the best alternative. –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley${\displaystyle \lor }$investigateᛅ} 22:14, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

  It is nonsense to say real life and virtual flags can be different shades if the country did not specify it, and there is a significant distinction between the real images and the darker version, unlike the US.

  As you can already see from the UN website, most flags online are taken from Wikipedia in the first place. So you can not rely on them as it would be circular reasoning. The older videos I gave in my comment below show that the golden yellow flag was actually the common version. You can even see a few darker versions, so you know they are actual variants.

  The darker version became common on the internet only because a person decided to put the hex value on a website, and someone on Wikipedia used the webpage as a source. Kaim (talk) 12:51, 10 July 2026 (UTC)

  There is a distinction between the real life image there and the lighter version too. It's in between the two. Also the case of the United States flag is an example of what you are saying can't happen. The United States has not specified different shades being used in different situations, it has simply never specified the exact shade at all, which has led to different organizations using slightly different shades, in part depending on whether or not it is meant to be displayed in real life or online. Either way, the flag in the picture is not shaded like Option A

  As for the claim about Wikipedia having caused the flag's colour to be effectively changed: do you have any evidence for that? –Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley${\displaystyle \lor }$investigateᛅ} 18:43, 10 July 2026 (UTC)

  Well, it is already evident here, as you referenced the UN website, which just downloaded the flags from Commons. If you're still sceptical about Wikipedia's influence on flags on the internet, search for the Vatican flag controversy, the Austria-Hungary flag controversy, the South Sudan flag controversy, the South Korean presidential flag controversy, and many more undiscovered.

  Information from common websites like fotw, vexilla mundi, or crwflags is all user-generated. If you search for flags or their color shades, they're the ones that come up near the top, and citing them without really verifying is the root of all problems. Kaim (talk) 01:55, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

• Option B. If there's any source where the official and accurate interpretation of this "golden yellow" can be found, it's the website of the presidency of Egypt, and the darker shade is what's found there. Solon ^26.125 14:30, 15 July 2026 (UTC)
• Option B - I've only briefly glanced at this, and I do see some disagreement among RS, but option B seems more common than A. Just to toss a reference into the discussion; the Egyptian Embassy in the US seems like it would be a reasonable reference, and they seem to use the darker color in multiple places on their site. NickCT (talk) 13:01, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

Discussion

• I'm not participating in the poll, as I believe in no way the colors of a national flag should be decided by the voting of a few wiki editors.

We should not endorse the darker shade simply because "We have only ever seen this shade". Most of the flags we can see online are sourced from Wikipedia (even probably including the one on the presidency.eg). Now supporting for the darker shade for this is just circular reasoning.

You can watch these videos, 1, 2, 3, 4, from back in 2011 where people are mostly flying the Golden Yellow (note that in video 4, those are not darker shade, but the brighter shade with details in black). Also there are suffcient real photographs of the Golden Yellow: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, etc.

I believe we can all agree that the brighter color is the correct flag of Egypt, per the Constitution, which clearly states the “Eagle of Salah El Din” in golden yellow. We could still support the darker shade if that were the only common flag used by the people, but that is not the case. Also, the darker shade is not golden yellow. It's more like brown than yellow. Kaim (talk) 13:57, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

But no precise shade? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:25, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

The current rationale for the hex values of the colors is that, the 2012 Olympics Committee specified the pantone value, which was then converted to hex per the official Pantone website. Personally I'm not a fan sourcing the color like this, but this is the only reliable source that I could find (each country provides their flags to the committee). But as the constitution doesn't specify the precise shade, anything that looks like golden yellow should be fine. Kaim (talk) 14:47, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

We're not deciding the colors of a national flag. We're deciding how the flag gets represented on Wikipedia, which is entirely appropriate. We're also not even really deciding. We're looking at sources that have already decided. That's how wikipedia works. NickCT (talk) 12:58, 16 July 2026 (UTC)