Talk:Hebephilia
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"Minor Attracted Person" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Minor Attracted Person and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 9#Minor Attracted Person until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Jay 💬 12:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
"Pubescent Children" OXYMORON
In the article, hebephilia is stated to be an attraction to "pubescent CHILDREN."
Children are prepubescent individuals with no secondary sex characteristics. Those developing said characteristics are not children but rather adolescents and should be referred to as such.
"Pubescent CHILDREN" is an oxymoron because despite legal definitions, the REAL definition of children is those who have not begun puberty and thus have no secondary sex characteristics.
People in the early stages of puberty are not children but rather adolescents.
HildaSimp (talk) 04:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Puberty, despite usually occuring around the ages 13-14 can come even sooner. Legally, they're children and calling a 11-12 year old for example adolescent is not socially acceptable. 78.80.16.13 (talk) 11:18, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
New section
@Crossroads. Do you have any rationale for the removal of the "characteristics" and "prevalence" sections from the revision prior to your mass revert? Bolt and Thunder (talk) 21:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see a reason to remove the pre-existing content on those matters (which there is, just the headings are organized differently). The pictures do not seem necessary either. On a controversial topic like this, which also has a history of problematic editing, it's best to make small edits that are easier for others to parse in the diff viewer. Crossroads -talk- 21:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Prevalence of hebephilia
I wonder if studies regarding the prevalence of hebephilia in adult men should be allowed in this article. There aren't many studies on this subject, most of them are surveys, but there are some studies with other methods like phallometry, face ratings, etc.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/147470491301100209
According to this study, 150 random men (age 18-40) from Germany were asked to rate the faces and voices of females of various age ranges. They rated young girls (age 11-15) as more attractive and feminine than adult women or circum-menopausal women.
https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/every_fifth.pdf
This paper on phallometric studies claims that around 16% of adult men are hebephilic (mostly attracted to pubescent girls) based on a sample size of 38 men from Canada.
Should these studies be included in the article, or are they inaccurate?
175.145.100.26 (talk) 15:33, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- No, they are single studies and not reviews, and thus strongly disfavored by WP:MEDRS. Also, Ipce and their website is not to be trusted; see List of pedophile advocacy organizations#International. Crossroads -talk- 23:21, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Silhouette study
I've seen people mention a study where men were asked to judge the attractiveness of female silhouettes of different age ranges. They apparently rated the silhouette of a 13-14 year old girl as the most attractive.
I've seen four people mention this study, however none of them ever gave a source. The only information I know is that the study is from before the 2000s. Does anyone have the source of this study? ~2026-16535-16 (talk) 03:57, 16 March 2026 (UTC)