Talk:Matt Goss

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Advertising of free music at mattgoss.biz

What are peoples opinions on recent edits putting adverts to free music on this article? They were removed once but have been put back in again. The artists website is listed in the links section and I feel that inline advertising of free music is inappropriate content for this article.

Since these lines were put back in to the article, I felt this may need discussion Ginga (talk) 15:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Try and contact Wikipedia, if they see it fit, then they will take it down or ask someone to take it down. - Reggie Reepolar (talk) 06:59, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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Looks like two official websites

Something is weird here. Mattgossofficial removed the ".co" and changed the link in the infobox to http://www.mattgoss.uk. But that takes me to https://mattgoss.la/. There is however still a website https://mattgoss.co.uk/ (with the ".co") that looks similar and has information about the most recent single and the upcoming album. I am going to restore the original url until someone can explain what is going on and we can reach consensus on which website is the official. And if it is the .la one, the url in the infobox should point directly to it. Sjö (talk) 05:57, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps there are two official websites, aimed at different regions. Or maybe one is a fake. @Mattgossofficial: would you like to comment? Sjö (talk) 07:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Nope. Although on the surface that's what they'd like you to believe. I looked into this closer as something was amiss. the .la website is the fake (or rather unofficial fan site). The Twitter link from that site takes you to an unofficial profile, as does the Facebook link, the Instagram link etc. That said, I'm blocking the Wikipedia account as passing off as somebody they're not. -- Longhair\^talk 08:37, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Just noticed, the .la website footer states "This site is not affiliated with Matt Goss....". -- Longhair\^talk 08:53, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Matt Goss Official is site created by Ray Light. Matt Goss has nothing to do with site. Ray Light runs the page and if you read the bio of singer on the site its all unsourced over hype rubbish with no real facts Guinnessdrinker32 (talk) 16:33, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Matt Goss Page

I've notice that page is semi - protected and just wondered why, I have seen through the history notes that certain user were reverting cited content. So for clarity and I hope you guys don't mind me asking is content only allowed on wiki that is found on the internet or is content allowed from published content, including magazine, newspaper articles that maybe not on the web.

I feel it's important that as new editor on here no content should be removed or reverted by any user or admin unless correctly proven its not factual. If I'm wrong on this then some help would be great. but after reading wiki protect page and according to wiki Reverting. It clearly states reverting a user edit tends to be hostile, making editing Wikipedia unpleasant. Sometimes this provokes a reciprocal hostility of re-reversion. Sometimes it also leads to editors departing Wikipedia, temporarily or otherwise, especially the less bellicose or the inexperienced. This outcome is clearly detrimental to the development of Wikipedia. Thus, fair and considered thought should be applied to all reversions given all the above.

So for example if I posted content from a newspaper article from from 1987 yet this was not found on the net and may be not published in other countries is this allowed. because what I've seen looking through numerous articles users reverting content without even providing and explanation.

Guinnessdrinker32 You can see the protection-reasons here: . If you have questions about details, you can try asking the admin who added the protection. I moved your thread to the bottom of this page, that's where new threads go. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

Dear Member that not really answered my question as the reason not valid by the admin Guinnessdrinker32 (talk) 09:39, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Seems like a valid reason to me, but you can ask that admin about that. Or you can request unprotection at WP:RFPP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:50, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

2023 Matt Goss Experience Tour

Just wondering if I could add content around the singer 2023 tour using the following publication, the links below and do I use the wording from the article or rewrite in my own words as I do not wish plagiarise another author content. so the links to the source are below

https://archive.org/details/inside-music_202601 https://archive.org/details/matt-goss-the-truth-behind-the-facade-sandra-3_202601 https://archive.org/details/img20250225_18583829_202502 https://archive.org/details/matt-goss-23_202601

Are the pages supposed to be from the issue with that cover? Can't find any info on something called "Inside Music magazine" from 2023, according to Google's AI "There isn't a widely known, major publication called "Inside Music Magazine" that had significant releases in 2023". AI:s, like WP, can be wrong of course. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:45, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Dear Member not all magazines are recognised by AI and we should not rely on AI to prove source. The articles found are from several publication and I see their from 2023. and they do provide a reliable source to the tour , the promotors IBB media, they also discuss poor ticket sales and reviews on the show. Guinnessdrinker32 (talk) 11:04, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

A publication from 2023 called "Inside Music Magazine" should have an easily findable website, right? If the articles are from other publications, what publications are those and why bother with the unrelated cover? I see one of them says "Theatre Inside Publication", from 2022 if the uploader got it right, but the question remains "What is/was Theatre Inside Publication?" Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:43, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Dear Member thank you for your response but not all publication are web based these are physical publication not everything needs to web posted to be cited on wiki for example what about Pop Promotion magazine from 1978-1990 these magazines are not cited on the web but I have over 90 copies of their publication after looking through to some pages website links go dead or removed but physical publication can be found anywhere like theatres or casino publication magazines are not always found on webs so again confusion on this site. not all isbn publication are found on the web but they but they exist. I read that as long as you cite the author, date of publication and where it was published this is class citing. Guinnessdrinker32 (talk) 16:17, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Class citing? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:29, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Classed as citing for example {{cite book

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is this not citing a publication Guinnessdrinker32 (talk) 16:43, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

When you use something like Template:Cite book, you can't use parameters that doesn't exist in the template, barcode does not. And author-link only works if the author has WP-article. A cite could look like ^[1] if that's what you mean by "class citing", the format is ok.

But this tells us nothing about if this is a source we should use in the WP:BLP context. From the cover onwards, your mag-links has a remarkably critical tone IMO. Not a problem in itself, there is no rule against "negative" content, but such content needs really good sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:06, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

References

[1]
Owen, Sandra (2022). Matt Goss Behind the Facade. UK: Theatre Inside Publication. pp. 8–10.

The third link says Seat Filler advert for Matt Goss Experience Show. The advert was for tickets being offered and promoted by IBB media for matt shows which were struggling to sell tickets. It's a "physical publication", but it's an advertisement. It's promotional material, *not* independent of the subject, and *not* usable as a WP:RS. BBQboffin^{grill me} 17:03, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Fourth link, I think you mean. And I agree, not useful in the WP-context. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:08, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

I can't find any reference to the publications mentioned existing. Even if they had no online presence they would still have some mention online. As such I don't see that they have a "reputation for fact checking and accuracy". As the OP has now been blocked as a sock I gurss it doesn't matter. I would say that reproduction of the entire magazine articles maybe copyvio, should the links be removed? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 20:47, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
Perhaps, but I'm starting to wonder if the uploader made these themself :/ Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:49, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

I took a quick look at everything uploaded to the Internet Archive by https://archive.org/details/@adam_lancaster619

Besides having a uncanny ability to "find" material critical of Goss that contain sentences found nowhere else by search engines, did they fabricate all of these?

Inside music magazine
Music Journalist Katie Watkins
Number One Magazine (Australia?)
Aimee Smith For Epic Magazine (doesn't seem like the kind of thing the Epic magazine that posted https://www.epicmagazine.com/#about would publish - is there another Epic magazine?)

Is there any evidence that any of their uploads are real?

Please note that User:Guinnessdrinker32 has been blocked as a likely sock of User:Lionkings3t3t3, who also had a lot to say about Matt Goss. --Guy Macon (talk) 11:20, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

If they're not "real", then they've made a considerable effort. It's odd that the cover and the flyer has the same photo. @Bri, this might be "funny" enough to mention in the Signpost. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:28, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

I did wonder if the were fake, the formatting seems off for physically published media. FYI apparently not agreeing with this editor's whim is a criminal offence! -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 14:44, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm pretty convinced that at least the "Inside Music" magazine cover is fake, as all British magazine covers are going to have barcodes beginning in 97. They'll also typically have a supplemental code next to the barcode for the issue number. Zooming in further, it looks like the text "Inside Music Magazine Issue 5", "Plus Jason Donavan Rick Astley Duran Duran Janet Jackson" "Ex BROS frontman's new show has failed to attract fans, with unsold out shows and attendees labeling him egotistical and self absorbed" and the barcode were all added later, as the rest of the text is lower resolution with more compression artifacts. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:11, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Hmmmm. Is there some sort of database that one could use to see what a particular barcode was assigned to? If so, we might be able to identify multiple fake images on commons. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:27, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

@Guy Macon https://www.barcodelookup.com/6453429999266. I have no idea how good it is. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

@Guy Macon The barcode on a magazine is either going to be its ISSN (starting in 977) or ISBN (starting in 978 or 979). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:16, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Is there supposed to be an ISSN number with the barcode as well? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

Wow. That certainly sent me down a rabbit hole, but in a good way. :) ISSN (International Standard Serial Number) is an eight-digit code to uniquely identify a periodical publication (periodical), such as a magazine. IAN (International Article Number) is a barcode standard. UPC (Universal Product Code) is the original barcode that we see on pretty much everything we buy. EAN-13 is a superset of UPC and is the most widely used barcode today. EAN (International Article Number) has a number of other variations such as EAN-8 and EAN-2.

The ISSN page says:

"WorldCat permits searching its catalog by ISSN, by entering "issn:" before the code in the query field. One can also go directly to an ISSN's record by appending it to "https://www.worldcat.org/ISSN/", e.g. n2:1021-9749 – Search Results. This does not query the ISSN Register itself, but rather shows whether any WorldCat library holds an item with the given ISSN."

and has an edit comment that says

"Though an ISSN checking facility ^{[dead link]} is available, this is a tool for checking the validity of an ISSN number format, not for querying the ISSN Register to determine what serial the input number is associated with."