Talk:Mordecai Bauman

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• ... that classical singer Mordecai Bauman used his music to support far-left American politics during the 1930s?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jaxson Davis

4meter4 (talk) 15:00, 1 May 2026 (UTC).

• Newness requirement satisfied by massive and high-quality expansion on May 1. Article is plenty long enough, neutrally and well written and sourced. The hook is interesting and short enough. The source provided above (NYPL finding aid for Bauman's papers) does not fully support the hook, but the hook is further supported by, among others, sources 49 to 52, so I'm satisfied that the hook is supported. Confidence factor enhanced by reputation of expander. The only thing that I don't see is a anything in the article calling Bauman a "clasical" singer. Maybe that's obvious, but a statement in the article and source calling him that would be nice. QPQ satisfied. Once the "classical" singer piece is resolved, this will be good to go. Cbl62 (talk) 02:08, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

@Cbl62: I chose classical over "opera" as he primarily performed and recorded concert works by composers like Charles Ives, Aaron Copland, Thomas Arne etc, and never sang with a major opera company (although he did record operas). He was a classically trained baritone from the Juilliard School and a professor of voice at the Cleveland Institute of Music. Those types of jobs only go to classical singers, and that's what you study if you are a voice major at a conservatory. It's also what is taught at a conservatory (particularly in that era where pop music was taboo at conservatories), and he wouldn't hold a voice faculty post if that wasn't the type of music he was performing and teaching. I think this falls under we don't need a citation for "the sky is blue". Just look at type of music he was singing and who composed it. It's all classical music. One isn't going to sing and record Mozart, Handel, Pergolessi, etc. if one isn't a classical singer. Best.4meter4 (talk) 05:37, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

@4meter4: I guess I'll take your word for it, but the article should refer to him at some point (probably in the lead) as a "clasical singer" if we're going to call him that in the hook. Cbl62 (talk) 22:23, 2 May 2026 (UTC)

Easily done. I added the word to a couple of places; although some might find it not contextually necessary.4meter4 (talk) 22:30, 2 May 2026 (UTC)