Talk:Osman I

A new statue of Malhun hatun has been unveiled, the statues description says dsugher of : sheikh edabayli , rabia bala hatun is malhun hatun kindly fix thjs and do ur research this issue is causing a lot of trouble for people who use wiki as their source of knowledge 2407:AA80:314:B764:F13B:14C9:2F3F:3915 (talk) 15:05, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

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What does this have to do with the Osman I WP-article? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:28, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Most modern historians agree that Kameriye Malhun Hatun was the daughter of Ömer Abdülaziz Bey (also called Ömer Bey), not the daughter of Sheikh Edebali. This is supported by Sultan Orhan’s 1324 endowment deed, which names his mother explicitly as “Mal Hatun, daughter of Ömer Bey”. By contrast, Rabia Bala Hatun was Sheikh Edebali’s daughter, married Osman I around 1289 and gave birth Alaeddin Ali Pasha; she died in January 1324 and was buried beside her father in Bilecik,So rabia bala hatun are malhun hatun are separate people, but i understand the confusion as there is conflict in the past between historians. AJMgirl (talk) 06:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Yes they are right. Bala was the sheikh daughter. Malham hatuns son Orhan was Osmans successor ~2026-24278-38 (talk) 12:29, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand this part. Doesn't give any information about Osman. Beshogur (talk) 21:59, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

I have removed a large chunk which is pretty much irrelevant to Ottoman expansions at that time. The sources do not even mention Ottomans. Beshogur (talk) 22:01, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

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"please change your descendants and my daughter Malhun shall be your wife. to your descendants and my daughter Bala Hatun shall be your wife.

Reference: as per the below wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Edebali the daughter of Seikh Edebali was Bala Hatun not Malhun. Nizamhaider786 (talk) 10:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Assuming this is about the quote under Osman_I#Osman's_Dream. No, we don't change quotes. Many figures have different names/spellings in different sources, but MOS:PMC is the rule on this website. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

This article, as well as the Rise of the Ottoman Empire article, use the 1299 date for the beginning of Osmans reign. In this article its not supported by any citation, in the Rise article it is said that "this date does not correspond with any historical event, and is purely symbolic". The 1299 date comes from Gibbon (and maybe Pachymeres) and refers to a supposed raid on Nicomedia, which is not mentioned in either article. Its not accepted by modern historiography, but the date stuck as a roundabout figure. Considering how much space is given to the discredited Ghaza thesis in the Rise article it is odd that the origins of the date are never really explained in either article. Presumably some of the dozen books cited here mention it at some point. It would also help to flesh out the early rise of Osmans territory sections and exemplify the paucity of reliable sources from his early reign. — jonas (talk) 10:04, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

He was the first ottoman sultan. At that time sultans were called ghazis. ~2026-24278-38 (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2026 (UTC)