Talk:Pope Honorius III

Does anyone know anything about the image in the infobox? Who painted it? When was it painted? Is it really Honorius?--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:21, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

File:B Honorius III3.jpg

Pope Honorous III (1216-1227) would not have worn the triregnum (papal tiara with three crowns) as only much later did Pope Boniface VIII (1294-1303) add a second crown to show his spiritual and temporal jurisdiction, and the third papal crown was added sometime between the pontificate of Pope Boniface VIII and before the death of Pope Benedict XII (1334-1342), thus this painting shown in this image file is not historically accurate if this painting was actually meant to portray Honorius III.^[1]

Another consideration is how the Vatican itself presents the symbolism of the papal tiara:

The Triregnum (the Papal Tiara formed by three crowns symbolizing the triple power of the Pope: father of kings, governor of the world and Vicar of Christ) from the XVIII Century, with which the bronze statue of Saint Peter is crowned every June 29th, the feast day of the Saint...^[2]

suggesting to me that this artwork (if intended to portray Pope Honorius III) was produced with the historically inaccurate number of crowns in order to carry some propaganda message, particularly if this artwork (and other similar examples of papal portraits with inaccurate crown count) was produced during the period of time following and after the demise of the Papal States between the First War of Italian Independence (1848-1849) and the Lateran Treaty (1929).Bee Cliff River Slob (talk) 16:47, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

The text currently states: "then he became Camerlengo of the Holy Roman Church in January 1188 and Cardinal Deacon of Santa Lucia in Silice on 20 February 1193. Under Pope Clement III and Pope Celestine III he was treasurer of the Roman Church." But 'Camerlengo' means Chamberlain, and the Camerlengo was the Chamberlain of the Apostolic Chamber (Camera), which was the Papal Treasury. In later times, the Chamberlain had a deputy who was called 'Treasurer of the Apostolic Camera'. I suggest that the text is a dittography. Vicedomino (talk) 17:29, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:

• Honorius III approving the Rule of St. Francis, Bartolome del Castro, c. 1500 (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 03:56, 14 January 2020 (UTC)