Talk:Robert Murray M'Cheyne
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| On 24 May 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Robert Murray M'Cheyne to Robert Murray McCheyne. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Works
I intend to insert a section in which to list M'Cheyne's published works. Many of his sermons and sermon notes have been republished in the last 10 years. DFH 20:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
References
Also to be added are references to various biographies of M'Cheyne, including two published within the last few years. DFH 20:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Requested move
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Robert Murray M'Cheyne → Robert Murray McCheyne — In McCheyne's time it was commonplace to use an inverted apostrophe to spell the prefix "Mc". There is no inverted apostrophe in the ASCII set, and people are spelling his name with an ordinary apostrophe to represent the archaic form; however, this is bound to lead to confusion, since people will assume his name is pronounced "Mmmcheyne". —Marnanel 11:56, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
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- SupportBrian0324 14:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Much less confusing to pronounce - and not much bigger
- Oppose Spell it as it is spelt. Note that M' is an old-fashioned form of Mc/Mac if you think you have to. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose. External links use M'Cheyne -- add an explanation/pronunciation in the intro line if necessary. (If this passes, should we move Ming?) — AjaxSmack 20:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
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It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 17:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
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Requested move 24 May 2026
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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Ignoring the "per nom". The two supporting and opposing arguments are equally valid. (closed by non-admin page mover) 1isall (talk | contribs) 20:34, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Robert Murray M'Cheyne → Robert Murray McCheyne – It was common in McCheyne's time to abbreviate the prefix M(a)c, found in names of Gaelic origin, to M', but this convention has long been obsolete. The majority of reliable sources (e.g. the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography) spell McCheyne's name the modern way. Zacwill (talk) 19:20, 24 May 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 19:54, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support. The current title is not wrong, but McCheyne does seem to be the more common spelling and can be cited back to at least 1847. Note to closer: There was a merger here from Robert Murray McCheyne back in 2005, so, although minor, technically that history should be preserved. Station1 (talk) 20:38, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:50, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
- Strong oppose. It may be an old-fashioned spelling, but "M'Cheyne" is how his name is spelled now: What can we learn from Robert Murray M’Cheyne? (2024), Who Was Robert Murray M’Cheyne? (2023), A Brief Life Still Burning: The Unlikely Impact of Robert Murray M’Cheyne (2023). Recent printing of his books mostly have "M'Cheyne" as well. StAnselm (talk) 01:53, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
