Talk:Ronnie Self

Where is this coming from? the user from July who is banned claims Ronnie Self is with a band called The Kids (in the first part of the article) and then in a citation for the song "Waitin' for the Gin to Hit" user credits it to "Ronnie Self and sons [sic]" (lower-case S). Google, Yandex, Yahoo, Bing, DuckDuckGo searches with and without quotation marks for exact results turns up nothing. The Facebook group dedicated to learning about Ronnie Self has never heard such a term, with the group administrator not being aware of the band having any such name as they were studio musicians? Also, the Facebook group names every musician pictured at Columbia Records; none of them is named Jerry. I won't reference it as Facebook is clearly not a legit reference, but there is no "cello" nor any cover of "Baby, Let's Play House" of which to speak. There was a drummer, a double bassist, an electric lead guitarist, and a fiddler behind Ronnie who was, of course, on vocals and acoustic rhythm guitar. Who is this Jerry guy (I added a ^[who?] tag) that supposedly played cello on a cover of Elvis Presley's Baby Let's Play House (funny considering) that was a cover itself, i.e. Elvis did not write or originally perform that song.

Finally, there is inconsistency with an united claim that first appeared in July that Ronnie Self began performing in 1955. No source I can find or have linked claims as much, with all available and a blog by Boppin' Bob concurring with the linked USAToday article (see citation), Self was musical from an early age. And random artist names: Cab Calloway, Bo Diddley, Gid Tanner, Hank Williams...

At most, sources agree that Self was influenced by Elvis Presley but there is zero reference to any of the other artists. Considering the user was banned by user:NinjaPirateRobot for vandalism, I have my doubts than any of these unsourced, unverifiable claims are even close to true. ChallengedFortress22 (talk) 13:37, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

• Self became well known to employees at the station...
• What station?

fixed and cited. The Dutch biographical article cited mentions he frequently "pestered" employees at the local radio station with his demo tapes. "pester" is a bit subjective in tone, but the main point has been left: he was a regular visitor of the station HQ per source.

• Four tracks were cut, and the first two were Pretty Bad Blues and Three Hearts Later released as a two-sided LP record in June 1956. According to Brenda Lee, Self was "unstable" since childhood; he had once chopped down a tree to block the school bus from getting to his house, and had once attacked his teacher with a baseball bat.

How are these thought related? sentence in incorrect (Career) section and was moved to proper (Early Life) section. Reworded for clarification. Per source, Self was mentally unstable, which source quotes Brenda Lee as noting this as the main cause of his erratic, troubled behavior.

• Sweet Nothin's which reached the 4th position on music charts, and I'm Sorry which topped at number one.

• On which charts? (There are multiple music charting services in the United States.) Where's the citation?

-- WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

The citation for the claim that the songs were successful was always present, but I have rephrased the statement, as the source admittedly does not clarify what charts are being referred? The source merely says that Sweet Nothin's [sic] and I'm Sorry did chart at No. 4 and No. 1 respectively. As such, I have broadened the claim: the songs were critically successful.OceanLoop (talk) 14:35, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

so much info is ^{[dubious – discuss]}, ^{[inconsistent]} claims critically in need of reliable citations, all unfounded content present on July 23 remains in the present article. All subsequent information has been added to content present on July 23, and nothing has been removed. Some typos have been repaired. I relocated a sentence whereby Brenda Lee discusses Self's childhood from the Career section to the Early Life section, as that would be the intuitive decision (early life = childhood, career =/= childhood/early life). You may not like the way I originally had Self went to "the station" but I have since clarified that; I was referring to the radio station headquarters as described in the citation. On which chart did the songs I'm Sorry and Sweet Nothin's appear? I wish I could tell you. Read the source; citation does not state a specific chart, just that song did in fact chart. So, I settled on rephrasing it to the song was critically "successful." You want to revert to July 23rd when this article was a dumpster fire? All the false statements that emerged around July 1, 2025 remain, but properly tagged as ^{[dubious – discuss]} and ^{[inconsistent]} when juxtaposed to all the cited information I have included. Ideally, there should be, and would be several more sources of an even more reliable nature, but I am working with what is available.