Talk:Utah State University

I reviewed the references and saw that the article points to the Fast Facts page on usu.edu eight times. I'll work to find alternative verifiable sources to support the associated claims the article makes. Please feel free to join me in addressing this.--TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

I have added outside citations wherever possible to address this claim, which appears to be tied to the "Fast Facts" citation previously used as the sole citation for eight claims. It is now used to support four claims as the secondary citation. With that work complete, I will close the shallow references template. It appears RedRaiderEngineer applied this and other templates, so if they see this talk page and could clarify further, that would be valuable. TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 13:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I have added outside citations wherever possible to address this claim, which appears to be tied to the "Fast Facts" citation previously used as the sole citation for eight claims. It is now used to support four claims as the secondary citation. With that work complete, I will close the shallow references template. It appears RedRaiderEngineer applied this and other templates, so if they see this talk page and could clarify further, that would be valuable. TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 19:04, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

I've been working on broadening the article's citations, replacing usu.edu citations with external citations where possible. --TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 18:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

It's unfortunate that the most detailed portion of this page focuses on athletics, a venture in the periphery of the mission and purpose of Utah State University.

Edit: I got curious about the above claim. If we consider word count as one measure of "detail," at the time of evaluation, its "History" section (1,216 words), "Colleges" section (1,624 words), and "System" section (1,545 words) all have more detail than the "Athletics" section (950 words). Additionally, "Athletics" is positioned in the article's periphery toward the bottom of the content. I'm afraid I have to disagree with whoever made the above claim. TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 15:42, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, all.

I'm hoping to respond to this flag on the page that "this article may rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject, potentially preventing the article from being verifiable and neutral. (June 2024)" I'm working my way from the top of the article downward, looking for opportunities to replace usu.edu references with external references wherever possible to strengthen the article's objectivity. Please feel free to join me in this work.TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 14:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, all.

This article had as many as four dead links. I address them all. If you see new ones pop up, please help to update them. TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 19:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Several universities claim to be "the West Point of the West." Additionally, Utah State University's claim appears to be supported mainly by a student's master's thesis; several other sources within the university cite that as cause for the claim. The thesis makes a plausible-sounding reason for why it might have received such a title but does not substantiate the claim further. Considering the claim's questionable nature and presence among other institutions, it may be beneficial to remove it until a consensus on its origin can be reached. Jacy Ensley (talk) 15:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm with Jacy on this. Why don't we remove it? What other universities are making this claim? I see Oregon State University makes this claim. Could it be possible that multiple communities referred to their respective universities as the "West Point of the West," and thus, the claim stands? TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 16:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

I reviewed the structure of peer institutions like Colorado State, Oregon State, et al., and I see that the intro section is a bit shorter. This is part of Utah State's history, so I added it to the history section in alignment with the placement of Oregon State's claim that it's the West Point of the West. I also acknowledged that this is a claim multiple universities are making, keeping the language neutral and factual. --TaffyPuller1832 (talk) 19:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)