Talk:V/STOL - Wikiwand

The content of VTOL was merged into V/STOL on 12 November 2025. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

The content of STOVL was merged into V/STOL on 12 November 2025. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:23, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Vertical/Short Takeoff and Landing → V/STOL — These all use acronyms: CTOL, STOL, STOVL, VTOL, VTOHL, CATOBAR, STOBAR, JATO/RATO. Though I dislike this, for the sake of commonality it should be moved. — username 1 (talk) 20:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Support the current article name is inconsistent with the article. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 05:11, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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Glossed over issue

I came here for information. Why do lift fans require greater than one power to weight ratio whereas Helicopters (aircraft because they use a rotating wing, the wing/rotor providing lift as the wing moves several hundred mph thru the air) and airplanes can fly with .16 power to weight ratio? TaylorLeem (talk) 04:18, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Ahunt: may be able to answer this. BilCat (talk) 04:21, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

It's an apples-and-oranges comparison of units. Helicopters need to put out as much thrust as they have weight to get off the ground, but you can't measure thrust in hp, which is typically how helicopter engine output is reported, while VTOL aircraft thrust is reported in lbs or kg. Helicopters use their engines to turn a rotor which is large in diameter and accelerates a large amount of air downwards. It's much more efficient to hover like that than by accelerating a small amount of air at high speed, but they all require as much thrust as they have weight. - Ahunt (talk) 12:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Merge proposal

The result of the discussion was merge. FaviFake (talk) 16:35, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

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I propose merging VTOL, STOVL and V/STOL. I think probably the best destination title is V/STOL. V/STOL is the broader description (since it incorporates VTOL). STOVL and V/STOL are functionally equivalent (despite the articles having reciprocal 'not to be confused with' tags) but V/STOL better describes the actual capability of most STOVL aircraft (since they tend to be capable of vertical take-off, but not always with a full payload). There is significant overlap in the articles with VTOL having the most breadth and detail (including coverage of V/STOL / STOVL). VTOL is the oldest article (Nov 2001), then STOVL (Feb 2002), then V/STOL (Sept 2003). YFB ¿ 14:20, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Comment - I think it's a good idea to consolidate everything under V/STOL (with the appropriate redirects from VTOL and STOVL), but it would be some work to merge the content of VTOL into V/STOL without being redundant or losing information/media. There's also some inconsistency between the different articles, with VTOL considering helicopters a type of "VTOL" aircraft (strange to me, since they don't generate lift by their motion through the air) and V/STOL (correctly, IMO) not considering them to be VTOL aircraft. I understand my reply is several months later, but do you have any thoughts on how this merge would be done? TROPtastic (talk) 18:12, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

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