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If you're here to complain about me following the guidelines set out by MOS:SUICIDE in my edits, I suggest you take it up with the authors of the Manual of Style, and not me, who is simply following the language guidelines set out by the Manual of Style.
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"Commit" Suicide
The Manual of Styles vary across languages and writing convention, so your argument for changing something because one Manual of Style says one thing is not sufficient. Especially since your MOS is specifically for Medical Related content not historical scholarship. For historians, a person "commits" suicide. The argument that "commit suicide" is linguistically inaccurate typically rests on the claim that "commit" carries inherent moral or legal opprobrium (which is your basis if your edit summary is any indicator. This implies wrongdoing, as in "commit a crime" or "commit a sin" — and that its application to suicide therefore stigmatizes the act and, by extension, those who die by it or those at risk. The counter-argument for its linguistic accuracy is straightforward and rests on the etymology and semantic range of "commit" rather than on its most common colloquial associations. "Commit" derives from the Latin committere--meaning to bring together, to entrust, to perpetrate--and in English carries a broad range of uses that have nothing inherently pejorative about them: one commits to a course of action, commits resources, commits oneself to a relationship or a position. The core semantic content is of decisive, intentional action--the bringing about of something through deliberate agency.
On this reading, "commit suicide" is linguistically sound precisely because it captures the element of intentional agency that distinguishes suicide from accidental death or homicide. To "commit" an act is to be its author in a meaningful sense, and suicide — whatever its moral or medical valence — is by definition a self-directed act. The phrase encodes that distinction accurately. The stigma argument, while well-intentioned and clinically motivated, conflates a word's semantic content with its most frequent contextual associations. That "commit" often co-occurs with crimes in common usage does not make criminality part of its meaning. Instead, it makes it a pragmatic implicature, which is a different and weaker claim. Language reform on those grounds substitutes associative discomfort for semantic analysis. Obenritter (talk) 19:30, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
