User talk:FNhunter
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Algeria air force page
Please stop changing my edits am trying to make the page more readable and i romoved the su35s because you were right no sources confirm its a su35s,other pages like the russian one use the same layout as i did beacuse its better if you want to add su27 famliy please add it as a header dont just revert. Thank you. Myopia206 (talk) 13:58, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- why do you put su-35 and su-30mki in a different box? but let MIg-29M 9.41 and mig-29 9.13 in the same box? they have much more differences betwen themselves than su-35 and su-30mki
- dont belive me?
- mig-29M 9.41 introduce totaly different flight controls linkages, new flight controls surfaces,new avionics,different cockpit lanugage,new type of weapons and new weapons,new engines,new radar and additonal internal fuel tanks
- su-35 and su-30mki are just avionics,weapons and engines
- i give you 24h to choose,either let su-35 and su-30mki in same box,or make mig-29m 9.41 in a different box FNhunter (talk) 22:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- su-34E is debatable,and i can accept it,but i cannot accept su-35 and su-30mki FNhunter (talk) 22:15, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- the changes that I have done were because the su30 and su35 basically are different variants hence the names and on the older version I personally didn't realise that algeria had them I thought they only had the su27,
- If you really wanna change it at least put work in to it and dont just revert seperate the migs if you want, add a header that specifies that the su30,34,35 are su27 varients just dont cramp them in the notes. Myopia206 (talk) 00:50, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Why are you talking about Su-30? It has nothingh to do with algerian air force,FUN FACT do you know the actual original name of Su-30 was Su-27PU, (source:https://sirviper.com/index.php?page=fighters/su-27/su30) so for you Su-30 is a brand new aircraft family? While the only difference betwen Su-27UB and Su-30 are the avionics,weapons,irst and refueling probe?
- Mig-29M 9.41 and Mig-29 9.13 are also different,but as you can see they are from the same family,same thingh as Su-30 and Su-35,they are different but share so many thinghs in common they are still from the same family,the Su-27 family,even their nato codename are both Flankers.
- So yes algeria has Su-27
- If you fail to bring actual logical argument i will revert it
- You have 24H FNhunter (talk) 13:29, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- As i said i know they are very similar and are from the same family but they do have different names that need to be mentioned so if you want you can add a header that says "su27 family" but reverting it just brings back the old mess, you can check the russian air force page, it looks very organised and readable whether the su30 and 35 are similar or not is irrelevant they have different names thus they should be mentioned separately and that applies to the migs so if you wanna do it separate the migs but do not revert to the previous version wich is really badly organised to the point were you cant read probably i think being able to distinguish them properly is more important then their family.
- Either add a header and separate the migs or leave it alone you are just making it worse for everyone. Myopia206 (talk) 14:36, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- If you wanna redesign it completely go ahead just dont do the lazy thing of reverting it without any improvement or even applying your idea of separation of the two mig29 types. Myopia206 (talk) 14:38, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Su-27UB and SU-27SM are different names,but they are still both Su-27,same for Su-35 and Su-30MKI,different names but still same family,idgaf about the russian air firce page,once im finished with algerian one for good,im gonna attack russia and make it good again.and Russia dosent even operate the Su-35,they have the Su-35S the one you thought we had.
- il give you some more time for actual arguments FNhunter (talk) 11:45, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- bro I don't have the time or energy to keep arguing as I said in the previous version it was technically correct but it was unreadable like all the important info was in the notes so if you wanna change it make a header that says su27 family and then all the other ones don't reverting to the older one either leave it as it is or make an actual effort and fix it Myopia206 (talk) 17:00, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Let’s say we put su-30 and then inside variant su-30mki,that will be incorrect,because su-30mki is based in su-30ki which is based on su-30k which is based on su-27ubk which is based on su-27ub,as you can we we don’t stop on su-30 FNhunter (talk) 17:50, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what its based on just write its name algeria got su-35 so we write su-35 not the su35 that is based on the su27 if they go to the su35 page they will get that info Myopia206 (talk) 19:06, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- So what do you want me to improve,before reverting FNhunter (talk) 19:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- I can agree on making su-34E alone FNhunter (talk) 19:25, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ok su34e alone and then the su30 and su35 are also seperated but we add a header row above them that says su27 family, you can seperate the migs too, i can do it if you want but i cant right now i can do it thursday. Myopia206 (talk) 20:41, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what its based on just write its name algeria got su-35 so we write su-35 not the su35 that is based on the su27 if they go to the su35 page they will get that info Myopia206 (talk) 19:06, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Let’s say we put su-30 and then inside variant su-30mki,that will be incorrect,because su-30mki is based in su-30ki which is based on su-30k which is based on su-27ubk which is based on su-27ub,as you can we we don’t stop on su-30 FNhunter (talk) 17:50, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- bro I don't have the time or energy to keep arguing as I said in the previous version it was technically correct but it was unreadable like all the important info was in the notes so if you wanna change it make a header that says su27 family and then all the other ones don't reverting to the older one either leave it as it is or make an actual effort and fix it Myopia206 (talk) 17:00, 21 October 2025 (UTC)