User talk:Michael Boy Jordan

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 11:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Michael Boy Jordan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log) • SI)

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Request reason:

Most of my edits are good edits. For example, in Macintosh 512K I made spelling fixes, I moved Apple Guide to its correct name, and other edits that are good to Wikipedia. Also, I finally fixed my bug! I'm now re-reading "Your first article" and "Editing policy". Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 12:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Decline reason:

The responses below make me worry that competence issues may also be a factor. Having reviewd your edit history, I have serious concerns about your ability to edit productively, and do not see that it would be in Wikipedia's interest to lift this block. Yunshui ^雲_水 08:06, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

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I've merged your requests, as only one open request is needed. Subsequent comments should be standard, unformatted comments. 331dot (talk) 12:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

K6ka Could you clarify the basis of the NOTHERE claim? 331dot (talk) 12:28, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

A glance at this user's deleted edits is eye-opening. I would expect any unblock to be conditional on an agreement to cease creating redirect pages or nonsense articles. Yunshui ^雲_水 16:39, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

That, and given the nonsense here, here, and here, and I cannot see how this editor can be taken seriously enough to edit the encyclopedia. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 19:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

OK. Then how about unblocking me for everything but creating articles? Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 19:32, 11 August 2019 (UTC) And then a few months later, I can learn my lesson about article creation? Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 19:32, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

How about you address the reasons for your block, which were primarily centered around your inappropriate page creations (despite receiving numerous warnings), rather than just talking about your "good" edits? I can't imagine why an editor making good edits would also create obviously bad articles and ignore warnings about it. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 01:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't know why. I'm looking at some resources right now, and by the end of the month, I'll start making good articles. For now, you can unblock editing, but please do not unblock article creation right now. Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 02:08, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't know why. Then you are not getting unblocked. And for the record, we cannot block you from creating new pages while also regranting you the ability to edit other pages; if you are unblocked, you can edit and create almost all pages, and if you are blocked, you cannot edit or create any pages except for this one. We can unblock you on condition that you do not create any new pages (with the understanding that doing so again will probably lead to you being blocked immediately again), but I'm not comfortable with even that if the best response you can give is I don't know. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 02:14, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

OK. The answer is that I didn't know that creating new pages on Wikipedia has a more critical impact on Wikipedia than just editing pages does. The answer is that I DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE GOOD ARTICLES. ^[1] Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 14:16, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

I have removed your ability to edit this page given your inappropriate edits here. Before making another request, read the guide to appealing blocks, then submit your appeal to the UTRS. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 15:26, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

What is the NOTHERE claim? I don't know what it is! Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 16:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

OK. I now understand that Wikipedia is not here to build an encyclopedia.

I need to make an edit to "/wiki/Apple_Card#Daily_Cash", changing the "physical card" link from "/wiki/Apple_Card#Physical_Card" to "/wiki/Apple_Card#Titanium_card".

This is an example of one of the good edits that I want to make. Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 16:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

I understand that I will made all good edits from now on, I understand that I'm blocked, and I'll never do it again. Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 16:55, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

It has been a year now. I've learned a lot since then.

Wikipedia is not a place to express yourself. It is not a way to advertise or promote things. It is not a personal blog or forum. And it is not a place to spam. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia where people are there to learn things.

I also do Reddit and Twitter. I understand that Wikipedia is not Reddit or Twitter.

When I am unblocked I will improve articles. For example, I would fix spelling errors and add citations where needed.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Michael Boy Jordan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log) • SI)

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Request reason:

See the most recent section in my talk page. Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 01:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You've evaded your block a couple times by editing while logged out, but what worries me is that your IP addresses were blocked several times for disruption. That was a while ago, though. What I'd like you to do is to propose an encyclopedic addition to one our articles and include a citation to a reliable source. It can be anything. A fact about your favorite film, or maybe a review of a video game, or maybe some news about a new Nvidia technology. Or a fact about butterflies. Whatever. Just try to make it look more encyclopedic than the stuff you've been blocked for in the past. Post it here on your talk page and make another unblock request. After you do that, I think we could probably unblock you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

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Michael Boy Jordan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log) • SI)

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Request reason:

See my addition below. Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 02:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Decline reason:

That would be an unsuitable citation; see WP:CITE. Yamla (talk) 14:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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I would like to add the following table to the Concatenated SMS article:

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Michael Boy Jordan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log) • SI)

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Request reason:

An addition with a citation

Decline reason:

No compelling reason to unblock at this time. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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No. Are you sure you have read and understood WP:RS and WP:CITE? Really?!? --Yamla (talk) 16:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I have read those before, but I am not sure what a "reliable source" is. Does it mean a popular source? Would adding more then one source (there are lots of them here) help at all? Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 16:41, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

No that's not at all what it means, and this is moot because this content is also unencyclopedic as per WP:NOTMANUAL. This is indiscriminate WP:TRIVIA which is btw needlessly formatted into a gigantic and mostly blank table WP:UNDUE. And yes I know it's exactly the kind of information that you were advised above to hunt for, which is very wrong and it absolutely can not be anything. The examples given you above are mostly exactly what not to do, as per WP:CIR WP:TRIVIA WP:NOTNEWS and a lot of WP:NOT. This is not easy, it's the hardest possible thing, and it is not for everybody. What the esteemed colleague (and most Wikipedia culture) meant to say was to advise finding one character of one typographical error. One. One perfectly clear error in existing vital data. That is the easiest thing, instead of the actually hardest possible thing that most people will never understand and should totally avoid forever. And instead, just enjoy reading Wikipedia and encourage others to do likewise! — Smuckola(talk) 16:54, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for all the helpful information! I'll just read Wikipedia for now. Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Michael Boy Jordan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log) • SI)

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Request reason:

As I mentioned in UTRS, I plan to make changes to technology related articles, including adding citations and fixing spelling errors. I understand why I was blocked 5 years ago, and my edits will be nothing like the ones I did back then. Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 16:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Procedural decline only. Most reviewers will not have access to your UTRS request here. Please restate the contents here so your request can be reviewed. Without looking at your UTRS request, I can't tell if you've clearly demonstrated you understand WP:CITE and WP:RS now, after earlier clearly demonstrating you did not. Yamla (talk) 12:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Michael Boy Jordan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log) • SI)

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Request reason:

UTRS contents and why I was unblocked are below.

Accept reason:

Taking into account others' comments here, I'm comfortable accepting this request. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 01:25, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

From UTRS: I was very young when I first created my account. It’s been 5 years, and I have read a lot of Wikipedia and its rules (including WP:NOTHERE, WP:RS, and WP:CITE) in the meantime. When I am unblocked, I plan to make edits to technology related articles, adding information and citing from reliable sources, as well as fixing spelling errors.

Also (not in my request) the main reason I was blocked was because I was creating completely nonsense pages. I understand why I was blocked for this reason, and I won’t do that when I am unblocked.

• I'm sympathetic to this request, but I'd appreciate if you could elaborate on why you created nonsense pages in the past, and how you've changed your approach to editing to avoid future issues. Also, Checkuser needed to determine if they've recently evaded their block, given the previous unblock decline for evasion. Elli (talk | contribs) 19:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Elli, Michael Boy Jordan shares an IP address with two recently blocked socks. On the other hand, this IP is registered to a secondary school, and many of the device types are what I might expect to see in a school computer lab, so I think the best I can say is  Possible. I left some notes in cuwiki if another CU wants to review my findings. RoySmith (talk) 21:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm inclined to unblock here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

• I created a fake 404 page at Apple Computer Corps, bad because it was not a real page describing anything, basically spam.
• I created Windows XP Professional SP3 retail box label which just didn’t make any sense, it was complete spam.
• I created Versions of macOS which was bad because it didn’t need its own article.
• I created Compute Card which was bad because it was about something I didn’t know much about and couldn’t add good citations to.

I created them when I was very young, and I understood Wikipedia much less than I do now. It’s been 5 years.

I will change my editing by:

• Only creating pages for actual topics that I can add evidence to with citations
• Making edits to tech related articles, including fixing spelling errors and adding citable facts.

Michael Boy Jordan (talk) 20:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)