User talk:Nibnab43637

Hi there Nibnab. I wanted to point out something in a recent edit... that I LOVED! You rephrased the wording from one article to fill out the section. I see you are new to Wikipedia, but you avoided an extremely common mistake. Tons of users just copy information from Wikipedia to another article, not knowing that the information might be wrong, or worded poorly. So good job here. Also, when Tropical cyclones in Southern Africa was published back in 2020, I hoped that someone would come along someday and finish some of the incomplete sections. It turns out you were that someone, and that day is today.

Since it seems like you're familiar with editing, I wanted to invite you to join the tropical cyclone WikiProject, which is the organization hub for the thousands of tropical cyclone articles, with hundreds of active users. Just scroll down to "Participants" and add yourself if you're interested in sticking around. If you have any questions about tropical cyclone editing, you can ask there, or you can ask me directly. I'm an administrator and a longtime writer. Cheers and happy editing! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:15, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Hey, Just to let you know I had to revert your edit which added Erica to the list of retired names as it was named by the BoM, while it was located in the Australian region and thus belongs on the Australian list of retired names. Personally I would love to combine the two lists at some point.Jason Rees (talk) 23:44, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm really confused because here it groups Erica under the list of South Pacific retired names when Harold, Gabrielle and probably others which were named by the BoM but retired for impacts in the South Pacific are instead listed under the list of Australian region retired names.

Also on the 2015–16 South Pacific cyclone season it says Yalo and Zena were retired and they have been replaced with Yates and Zidane but on the list previously mentioned they don't appear. It's the same thing with Daphne from 2012, although that was in 2023.

So yeah I'm really confused as to what names have been retired or not Nibnab43637 (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

With regards to what names have been retired, I have always kept both the Australian and South Pacific to the list provided by the TCOP, as a result, we can not consider Daphne, Yalo and Zena as being retired. As this was the first that I had heard of Daphne, Yalo and Zena no longer being on Fiji's list of names, I flipped through some of the final reports of the RA V TCC that I have saved on my computer and found that in 2016 "The Committee reviewed the name lists and approved a number of changes to the Operational Plan."

As for Erica, I don't doubt that it was retired but we cant say that it was retired from the "South Pacific" naming lists, when it was named by Brisbane and retired from Brisbane's naming list. Also if you look at page 25 of the 2025 RA V TCOP, you will find that Erica is included in the Australian list inbetween Emily and Ethel. What we could do though, is start developing a section entitled History on both the Australian and South Pacific lists, which details information about the naming lists like I have done with the Pacific Typhoon names.

Hope this helps but if you have further questions feel free to shout.Jason Rees (talk) 22:10, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

I couldn't help but see this conversation. Seeing as both the Australia and SPAC lists are around 4,000 words, a combined list would make a lot more sense, especially for storms like Erica, but also this year's Maila. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:11, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

There’s an obscure concept on Wikipedia called “wikiwork”, which assigns points 0-6, depending how good the article is (from featured to stub). That wikiwork shows how much work is needed until a topic is essentially done. So the decade mean would be the average quality of articles across the decade. It’s not really needed, so if it’s confusing to calculate, don’t worry about updating it, we could probably remove it.

However, I have a Google spreadsheet with every storm and season article across the project, for stat purposes. The 1950s averages to 1 point (or A-class), the 1960s averages to 2 points (which is a GA), 2.33 for the 1970s (still rounds to a GA), and then 2.86 for the 80s, 3.13 for the 90s, 2.83 for the 2000s, 3.19 for the 2010s, and 3.5 for the 2020s. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 21:57, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm confused because there it's the median but here you're talking about the mean. Also there are only 3 A-class articles across the project and I feel like having the decade be A-class might confuse readers. Nibnab43637 (talk) 22:44, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

LOL oops, I so rarely use median vs mean, that I completely missed that it actually was listed as median. Well, I suppose we could still use median, and skip A-class. I notice the 1950s has four GA's and four FA's, so either one would be fine. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:50, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

It gets more confusing because I found another thing on the project that uses WikiWork here and with how you say "rounds" in your first comment on this topic I think the boundaries between the different colours are different.

Off topic a bit but are the 3 A-class articles (Ike, Mike and Leon–Eline) supposed to be A-class? It seems like almost all A-class articles were changed to GA at one point. Nibnab43637 (talk) 00:43, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

If you notice, the page you mentioned only goes up to 2013, so it's at least 13 years out of date, so it might be incorrect, or inconsistent. The task forces in the WPTC are largely inactive, more useful as a form of categorization than a single page to keep track of. The whole section you linked can probably be removed. As for the A-class articles, the WPTC stopped using that class a few years ago, mostly because there were too few reviewers to ensure articles pass an A-class review. However, all three of those articles also belong to other WikiProjects, which do still use A-class. In principle, it doesn't matter too much, since the assessment rating is more of a notice for article quality, and anything that passes a good article review is assumed to be relatively good. What matters is the articles themselves, not the pages that describe what class they are. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:53, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

Hey Nibnab, I see you've gotten used to editing, and you've been doing lots of edits related to the WPTC. I wondered if there were any articles you had your eyes on that you wanted to work on? There are thousands of articles in the project, as you likely know by now! And many of them still need work. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:42, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

I've been working on improving the Tropical cyclones in Southern Africa article and I need to add Cyclone Ialy but I think that's the only storm that needs adding.

There are many users at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Tropical_cyclones/Members that are listed in the active section but have not edited an article related to tropical cyclones in the past year, and in the past couple days I have started putting those in the inactive section.

I was editing Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Assessment/Tables but it doesn't seem worth it as barely anyone looks at that and I don't want to have to edit it every time something new appears on the assessment log. It would be cool if there was a bot that could look at the assessment log and continually update that.

I need to translate this source so I can add to this article and this article but that's something way in the background that I don't intend to do for a while.

I think after I have added Cyclone Ialy I will find another list article on the project that needs heavily updating, like when I edited List of Australia tropical cyclones a month ago. Nibnab43637 (talk) 20:49, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

I meant to reply to this a few days ago, but I've been busy and have like 15 internet tabs open. I think you will hit a wall with Tropical cyclones in Southern Africa. Your work is good, but it's only as good as the sections are in the season articles. I see you brought up the tables. I wish a bot could keep it updated, but I have no idea how to do that. I've been trying to keep it up to date all these years. Btw, it shows that there are good articles for south-west Indian Ocean cyclone seasons going back to 1982. But what about before then? There's a bunch of stub and start-class season articles. It looks like there were three storms that hit Mozambique in 1982, so how are there no impacts? Another storm hit Mozambique in 1980. Check out this crazy track for a storm in 1978 that hit Mozambique twice! I worked on a lot of the old season articles, and I can tell you that the information definitely is out there. It's just that no one cared to work on these articles, until a handful of editors worked on these seasons. So can you try digging up information on Angele, and add it to both the season article and the list article? Also, this storm killed eight people in Mozambique in 1968. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:44, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

I just kinda assumed that when you created the article in 2019 that you had added every storm that had affected Southern Africa with sufficient information before 2019.

By the way is looking at the track map for a storm and seeing that it made landfall in Mozambique (Gina in 1962 for example), then adding it to the article―Is that original research? What counts as original research seems fuzzy to me. Nibnab43637 (talk) 16:19, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

If you get a source that says Gina made landfall () then that is not original research. Most of IBTRACS landfalls are included, so it would be unusual if there was a landfall that wasn't recorded. It counts as original research to add it without a source, or to speculate that there was likely heavy damage, and citing the best track, which wouldn't mention anything about damage. Also, the track maps are a good jumping off point. Instead of doing original research, you can do research, and see if Gina, for example, caused heavy damage or deaths. It might appear in old reports or newspaper archives. When I worked on the article, I only finished it back to the 1980s, because there has been little work on Wikipedia in general for SWIO storms before the 1980s. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:03, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Oh absolutely, that's a great idea! We could make a dedicated page just for the table and transclude where necessary. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:49, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

I created this template by taking my preferred aspects of each table. Is it good enough? Nibnab43637 (talk) 20:33, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't reply to this, yea that looks good. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:12, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Hey Nibnab, I suggest you revert Hector 78, and anywhere else where you add the landfalls to Clarion Island. It's borderline original research, and it doesn't add much, since Clarion is so small, and probably wasn't counted as an official landfall anywhere (such as IBTRACS). If you're going to be working on older seasons like 1978 Pacific hurricane season, it would be more useful to expand the sections with meteorological and impact details. I hope this doesn't dissuade you from editing too much. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:11, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

I've added landfalls to Socorro Island, the largest of the Revillagigedo Islands, with Three 57, Iselle 90 and Greg 93. Although Socorro Island is bigger than Clarion Island, those landfalls also don't appear on IBTrACS, so I'm guessing you don't like them either, and I'll go and revert those. When I was adding those I wasn't completely sure if it was the right thing to do, but I thought about WP:BOLD.

I have something that I've been meaning to ask you for some time and although this is off topic I might as well do it here. I've been editing subtopic articles on Tropical cyclone effects by region changing everything from present tense to past tense, as I feel like it makes more sense. I wasn't sure of this at first, but you thanked the edit I made to Tropical cyclones in the Mascarene Islands, and that gave me confidence. However, I'm still not 100% sure and want full confirmation before I edit featured lists. Nibnab43637 (talk) 13:42, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

In general, being bold is better than asking for permission, so I’m glad you did the edit anyway, even if I did have to reach out. Truth be told, I don’t think I have ever thought about landfalls in either of those islands, but after checking IBTRACS and various TCRs, I don’t think they’re significant islands to be considered “land”, as in landfall.

And as for the past tense, LOL ugh that was a bad decision I made when I first started making some of the list articles (a few decades ago *insert skull emoji*) Yes they should be in the past tense. I’m not sure why I did it that way in the first place. Maybe to change it up? Also, featured articles/lists can and should be edited. They just need slightly more to care to make sure they aren’t actively being made worse. And given your editing history, I don’t think you’re going to make any articles worse. Cheers and keep up the good work :) Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 18:31, 26 July 2026 (UTC)