User talk:Oceanbed347

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Hello Oceanbed347! Your additions to Kucha have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license—to request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, it's important to understand and adhere to guidelines about using information from sources to prevent copyright and plagiarism issues. Here are the key points:

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Hi, Oceanbed! I've also had to remove the material you addded to Second Turkic Khaganate and Karluk Yabghu, which you added before Tenshi's warning. Just a heads up. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 07:08, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

I assume you intended to make the lead of Roman Empire clearer and easier to read, but your edits introduced multiple factual errors and much unnecessary clutter. R Prazeres put it well here last week: "since you are only making wording changes to text that does not contain any notable errors to begin with, we should expect that such changes are strictly improvements and that they do not introduce new errors at all". You might find that you can more easily avoid introducing problems by reading the body of the article before editing the lead. NebY (talk) 13:26, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi NebY,

Could you please tell me what were the factual errors that I added.

Thank You!

Oceanbed347 (talk) 13:29, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Most glaringly, "Rome became an Empire". Also, the empire did not control the Mediterranean, much of Europe, Western Asia, and North Africa only at its greatest extent, and qualifying that as its greatest extent during the classical period indicates that it reached a greater extent in some other period. The Romans did not conquer "as a Republic, following Octavian's assumption of power". Have you read the article? NebY (talk) 13:39, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi NebY,

Thank you for replying, but I strongly disagree. I have also read the article.

Rome prior to Augustus was a republic, it only became an Empire ruled by and emperor during his reign.

The Empire only controlled those regions at its greatest extent under Trajan. It may have controlled parts of those region at different times but not all of them together. Hence it is more appropriate to say "at its greatest extent".

Saying that it reached its greatest extent during the classical period does not imply that it was larger during another period, hence "Greatest". The term classical period was already there in the lede, I did not add it.

I think you acted too hastily when you reverted them. I think that if you were to take a another look at them the errors that you are referring to may not be errors at all.

I kindly request that you exercise more restraint when it comes to reverting edits. Most edits are made in good faith. Even if there are some errors they can easily be corrected by others. Wikipedia is a wonderful community of editors who work together to improve Wikipedia. Even if there are issues they should be brought up in a non confrontational manner and only if they need to be brought up at all.

Could you please have another look at those edits and if they are fine, allow at least a few of them to remain, if not that's OK.

Thank You!

Oceanbed347 (talk) 14:13, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

No, Rome wasn't an empire, any more than Britain or Belgium were later. Rome conquered an empire. It gained that empire before Augustus came to power.

No, that description of its extent is correct for a long period before and after Trajan.

You inserted "greatest extent" before "classical period". Your text did not say that it reached its greatest extent in the classical period; it made a restricted statement about its greatest extent in the classical period.

If you'd read the article, it's baffling that you chose to go against its established presentation of dates, which is entirely normal for this field.

You'll find a detailed discussion of the first paragraph in Talk:Roman Empire/Archive 13# Use–mention in the lead.

I did not revert your edits lightly. NebY (talk) 14:49, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi NebY,

Thank You for the discussion link,

Again I disagree with some of the points that you have made, but if you really believe that they must all be removed then I'm fine with it.

Thank You!

Oceanbed347 (talk) 15:16, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

That's good! Still, though we've been discussing the details of your edits, the reason I posted on your talk page was because the issues were of the sort also raised by R Prazeres here on your talk page, saying for example "Since [your edits] have introduced grammar/style mistakes on multiple occasions to texts that were otherwise well-written, I would perhaps recommend that you use more restraint in major articles that have already received lots of attention by many editors (e.g. Ottoman Empire, Umayyad Caliphate, etc), especially in the lead sections (which tend to have received even more attention)." Then too you didn't accept that there were problems, but did say "I really appreciate you giving me advice, and I will surely keep it in mind as I edit." Please, do. NebY (talk) 16:48, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

The network-map has been discussed extensively; there's no need to selectively invite editors to open this discussion again. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 13:12, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

I will join you on the Mauryan Talk page.

Thank You!

Oceanbed347 (talk) 13:28, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

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Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:05, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank You for the notification.

Thank You!

Oceanbed347 (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Seleucid–Mauryan War, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:34, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

Hi,

As an extended confirmed/EC editor, I am quite familiar with the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia. I am also somewhat perplexed by the introductory nature and uncharacteristically polite tone of your message. I have known you for almost a month now and we have exchanged many messages and replies, especially on the Mauryan Empire Talk page.

The reason which you have given for the reversion of my edits(POV pushing) is completely absurd and totally baseless. Many historians say that based on the terms of the treaty that the Seleucids were defeated. The sources I quoted are valid. Anyone who takes a look at it my edit on that page would see that there is nothing wrong with it. I even intentionally included the word "likely" to make it sound more neutral and balanced. If you have a valid source saying that the Seleucids won, then please put it forward. I take your "accusation" of POV pushing very seriously!. I will be opening a discussion regarding this on the relevant talk page. See you there.

Thank You!

Oceanbed347 (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

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