User talk:Pansipeixos
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Katalanim (February 15)
Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at History of the Jews in Catalonia instead.
The comment the reviewer left was:
I can see this is a partial translation of a longer article in Catalan Wikipedia. The problem at the moment is that almost all the material here is covered in existing English wikipedia entries, around 4 of them. These articles are not linked into this draft, but this draft does not add much more than is in those existing articles. The big exception is the sourcing, which is more/better than the existing articles. Some of this sourcing is available online, but only the offline reference is provided (e.g. Molho).
I think further thought is needed on this, as to whether it is better to improve the existing articles, or whether it is better to develop this draft so that it provides more material from the Catalan version, and gives additional insights not currently in English wikipedia.
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Hello, Pansipeixos!
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- Thanks a lot, @ChrysGalley for your comments. I'll think what to do, because you are right that the material is already covered by other pages, but the specific name "Qatalaní / Katalanim" that the communities of Roma and Thessalonica gave themselves, points a specific ethnic/social group, that I understand needs to be distinguished with an own page. It is like we do not want to create the page Italians because there is the page Europeans. Pansipeixos (talk) 15:49, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks @Pansipeixos - yes overall if there is distinctive material for the subject then it would be good to have a standalone article. One other option is that some of the sources have more material than was used in the Catalan article, so you have other routes to check out. ChrysGalley (talk) 16:06, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Hello @ChrysGalley, let me, please, made a proposal. In order no repeat the information, but to keep a standalone article for this ethnic group, a solution could be to short even more the information, pointing mainly the subjects that refer to the Katalanim as a specific community. Do you think it would be workable? Pansipeixos (talk) 15:49, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- Yes and hello @Pansipeixos. That is what I meant in my earlier reply. I think some of the sources already mentioned in your original draft will help you to find more information. The draft will stay alive for 6 months after any change to that draft, so there is no rush for you. You can also repeat the information on the 1391 and 1492 events, though it may be best to better reference the existing articles, either via a wikilink or hatnote. If you want some help from me (I speak Catalan) then by all means let me know. I do see the point in using the distinct term, since Aragon and Catalunya are/were two different entities. ChrysGalley (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- Hello @ChrysGalley, let me, please, made a proposal. In order no repeat the information, but to keep a standalone article for this ethnic group, a solution could be to short even more the information, pointing mainly the subjects that refer to the Katalanim as a specific community. Do you think it would be workable? Pansipeixos (talk) 15:49, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks @Pansipeixos - yes overall if there is distinctive material for the subject then it would be good to have a standalone article. One other option is that some of the sources have more material than was used in the Catalan article, so you have other routes to check out. ChrysGalley (talk) 16:06, 15 February 2026 (UTC)