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Why are you insistently editing Template:2022–23 Süper Lig table, not keeping it up to date based on the current standings of Turkish Football Federation? Your edit doesn't represent the current standings. Oltnilhn (talk) 16:38, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

The results of the future scheduled matches involving Gaziantep and Hatayspor are already decided as 3-0 forfeits. With those mathematically decided results, Beşiktaş has already clinched an ECL berth, Galatasaray can clinch the league title with a win on 30 May (before their 4 June match with Fenerbahçe), and Ümraniyespor is guaranteed to be relegated. ThatStatMan (talk) 16:51, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Everything you said is correct. However, the table doesn't represent how it's actually supposed to be as of round 35. It will be updated already in its own time. Oltnilhn (talk) 17:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi! I noticed this edit - as per club ranking or the UEFA source which is used in this article and these rankings Urartu is 334th (same as Vikingur, Derry City, St Patrick's Athletic and Víkingur Reykjavík), Torpedo Kutaisi (also listed as nonseeded) even has higher rank - 322nd. Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:06, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Please be noted that according to the Regulations of the UEFA Champions League Article 3.04a:

A vacancy created by the UEFA Champions League titleholder is filled by the domestic champion with the highest individual club coefficient of all the clubs that qualify for the champions path. The champions path is adapted accordingly, with each subsequent vacancy filled by the club(s) with the highest individual club coefficient(s) of all the clubs in the previous round.

As the result, the team fill into this vacancy should only be the team from the playoff round of the Champions Path. See here for calculations. That mean Slovan Bratislava will fill into second qualifying round if the defending champions are not Borrusia Dortmund. KyleRGiggs (talk) 02:37, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

I noticed you guys were going back and forth on this but if that's the regulation, then ThatStatMan is right. The team that fills the title holder vacancy is drawn from "all the clubs that qualify for the champions path". That could be a team from QR1, a team in the play-off round or any in between. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 08:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

So what is previous round? KyleRGiggs (talk) 10:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

The round or rounds before the one in which the team that fills the title holder vacancy was due to enter.

Read the two sentences one at a time. The first determines who takes the title holder's berth. The second determines what happens next. It would be clearer if UEFA had said "The champions path is then adapted accordingly" because it removes any ambiguity but that wouldn't change the meaning of the regulation. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 11:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Kyle - Let's start with the fact that Dortmund is in 5th place and still alive in the CL. That means that there is no rebalancing yet, so why are any changes being made?

Second, the regulation plainly does not specify "play-off" teams so I removed that added wording.

Third, take another look at those rankings again that you linked. Slovan Bratislava is 3rd ranked of the Q1 champs behind Ferencvaros and Qarabag, so they would not be rebalanced anyway.

I will admit that I didn't see that it is clubs rather than associations being rebalanced in these scenarios - wow that adds some wrinkles! So if Shakhtar gets rebalanced to league phase, it won't automatically be a Czech champ replacing them in the play-off round - it could be Dinamo Zagreb or MTA from Israel for example. Another Q2 team would move to Q3 and that would be the extent of the CL rebalancing, wouldn't it? ThatStatMan (talk) 15:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

The scenario is as follows: if Dortmund wins the Champions League then Frankfurt qualifies for the League stage. However, afterwards Rangers and Donetsk can both still qualify via the qualification path. Since they both have a higher CC than Frankfurt they would put Frankfurt in pot 3 if they both are successful in the qualification games 2A0A:A548:CBFE:0:113D:1108:E69E:B03C (talk) 08:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Nailed it, thank you. ThatStatMan (talk) 16:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

My summary suddenly finished. So I have to give the reverting reason here. Referring to this UEFA official YouTube caption image if you persist in the wording "Europa". Besides, in the UEFA Circular Letter published in March 2024, so clearly "We are pleased to provide you with information about the distribution of commercial revenues from the 2024/25 UEFA Champions League (UCL), UEFA Europa League (UEL) and UEFA Conference League (UECL) and the 2024 UEFA Super Cup (SCUP).". I don't know why UEFA keeps using UECL as it's abbreviation. May be "UEFA Conference League" something but we should not suppose it. Whatever, the official abbreviation keeps UECL despite "Europa" wording has been omitted. Please give any official documents if you keep your reason there. Thank you. KyleRGiggs (talk) 19:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

In other words, if you persist of the word "Europa", then I would just make all abbreviations of the European club competitions as full, i.e. including "U" making into "UCL", "UEL" and "UECL". That's the final reply. KyleRGiggs (talk) 19:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

I thought that would be the final reply but that's wrong. I found that today there is too further more official documents that UEFA Conference League remains it's official abbreviation as "UECL": Disciplinary matters. You could see multiple disciplinary decisions using "UECL" as the abbreviation of the renamed UEFA Conference League. We should avoid any misunderstanding if the abbreviation is used officially. Thank you. KyleRGiggs (talk) 13:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Editors are expected to treat each other with respect and civility. On this encyclopedia project, editors assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not appear to do at UEFA coefficient. Here is Wikipedia's welcome page, and it is hoped that you will assume the good faith of other editors and continue to help us improve Wikipedia! Thank you very much! KyleRGiggs (talk) 20:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm hoping there will be an official article soon explaining it but for now the GFA's Licensing article will have to do - but I've spoken to Calpe City's owner (one half of the CCM merger) and in order to play in UEFA competition they have to stay as FCB Magpies for one more year, since they are the club that won the Rock Cup. They've pushed back the renaming to next June as the April announcement was too late for this season. But the Insta DM screenshots won't work as an official source so the GFA article will have to do if it's needed. VampireKilla (talk) 21:18, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

No worries, I rescinded my edit ahortly afterward when I saw your note on the main page. I had thought your edit was due to being unaware of the merger. Obviously you are well aware of the details. Thanks! ThatStatMan (talk) 22:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Rather than reverting, please make note of this source, which is reliable. Match dates confirmed by UEFA in the circular letter. Island92 (talk) 20:27, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

a) Why don't you go onto UEFA.com, the PRIMARY source which I cited in the section and confirms the date TBC for that stage, b) that circular does NOT state the draw date so it's immaterial, c) Kassiesa is an excellent secondary source but is a backup to UEFA. So now YOU can stop reverting my correct information. ThatStatMan (talk) 00:50, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Despite UEFA not confirming it there are no other options other than that date confirmed by Kassiesa (according to the current format of the competition). This happened multiple times in the past and as a result UEFA updated the date only after, the date Kassiase had provided such prior. Island92 (talk) 07:37, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, just a query regarding the seeding of Urartu/Neman in 3QR - Would they not potentially be seeded with DAC's coefficient of 8.000?

I remember the scenario last season in 2QR when Puskas Akademia advanced on walkover against Dnipro-1, and they took Dnipro's coefficient in 3QR?

Many thanks Ryllyld (talk) 19:26, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi there - I am sure that the team's own coefficient will be the one that is used for 3Q draw, when the team will be known after 1Q matches. The 8.0 only belongs to DAC.

Last year I believe the Dnipro bankruptcy happened after the draw which would have had Puskas' coefficient based on the "winner of the tie involving Dnipro" scenario, so they were already in seeded position. ThatStatMan (talk) 20:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)