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Algard Wicca

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No demonstrable notability, despite tagging for 6 year. A merge was agreed and completed (Talk:British Traditional Wicca/Archive 1#Proposed merge with Algard Wicca), but the content didn't survive at the target. Google scholar shows some tangential mentions in reliable sources, but insufficient to establish notability. The two sources also only tangentially mention it. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Klbrain (talk) 15:22, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Paganism-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:29, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
• Delete: Unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources. I was able to find ample passing mentions in literature but none in reliable sources that go beyond stating basics: that Algard Wicca exists, it is a blend of Gardnerian and Alexandrian traditions, and that Mary Nesnick originated it. I do not believe the article is suitable to be merged, and a prior merge proved unsuccessful. If someone is able to find sources that provide sigcov please ping me.​ fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 17:33, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Delete it is already mentioned on the Wicca entry where Bull of Heaven reference can also live. I'll work on that BoH on Eddie Buczynski and makes more sense there Burroughs'10 (talk) 20:00, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: A merge/redirect to History of Wicca#Algard and Seax (1972–1974) may be appropriate. A quick glance at Google Scholar just suggests a few hits grouping it as one of the varieties of TBW, without extensive coverage. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:30, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

• Keep - I believe more coverage may exist in sources such as:
  • https://doi.org/10.1163/15700593-01802002
  • https://doi.org/10.1017/9781009472852
  • http://digital.casalini.it/9781782842552

-Ike Lek (talk) 00:55, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

@Ike Lek just to confirm, your keep vote was based on a speculative existence of coverage, and that you've not actually checked? I was able to access two of those sources and neither are close to establishing notability:

• The Creation of "Traditional Witchcraft", doi:10.1163/15700593-01802002 – Mary Nesnick is unmentioned, Algard Wicca is mentioned once, here is the excerpt with relevant context:

• The New Witches of the West, doi:10.1017/9781009472852 – Could not access, do not see any specific reason why this source would be able to establish notability.
• Wicca: History, Belief & Community in Modern Pagan Witchcraft, ISBN 9781782842552 – Algard Wicca is mentioned four times, here are all instances with relevant context:

Making a comment to provide possible sources for others to explore would be understandable, but voting based on a hypothetical is odd to me. Apologies if I've misunderstood. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 09:39, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

I "voted" because I thought adequate coverage within the books I listed was likely to exist. As it seems not to, I have stricken my vote, and now have no opinion. Ike Lek (talk) 10:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying, but I'd advise against making votes at other XfD's based on possible coverage; however, a comment providing possible sources would be helpful so others with access could check and verify. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 10:27, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

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