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Cupertino quarry shooting

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Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENT. No lasting effects or national/global scope. Transcendence (talk) 22:14, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 23:33, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 23:33, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:39, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:25, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
• Weak delete: Not really a well known event. I have relatives that live near where this happened, and most of them hardly remember this event ever happening. I also live in the Bay Area, in a place less than 2 hours from where this happened, and I can assure you not many people have heard of this shooting spree. It is not notable and doesn't belong on Wikipedia, but it can be merged to Permanente Quarry. It already has a mention on that page, and information on this event can be extended on that quarry page. Cyanidethistles (talk) 20:17, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:59, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

• Merge to something, probably Permanente Quarry or Cupertino, California. As a South Bay citizen, I assure you that many people who were in the area do remember this clearly, especially since it shut down practically the entire area (schools, businesses, even traffic) for days. That said, I don't think it had enough of a lasting impact to be a stand-alone article, but is worth mentioning on related article. Ansh666 02:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Comment: Yeah, Permanente Quarry would be the perfect page for this event to be merged with. It already has a brief mentioning of this selfish shooting incident on that page, but it needs to be expanded soon. When I was discussing with people from the Bay Area online about past serious violent incidents that took place around here, the majority of them have never heard about a mass shooting that took place at a quarry in Cupertino. Some people in the South Bay may be familiar with it, as you said, but it's definitely not notable enough to be a stand-alone article. As you said, it definitely doesn't have much of a lasting impact. Cyanidethistles (talk) 04:54, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

• Weak keep - there has been some ongoing coverage, but it has been more of the "Do you recall tragic mass shootings a, b, c, d, e, and f?" variety. A merge would also be sensible. Bearian (talk) 17:59, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
• Merge to Permanente Quarry, where it is already mentioned, and expand that info by a sentence or two (maybe develop a new section, "incidents" or something, that would mention this and other incidents at that plant that got press coverage: an explosion, an employee accidental death, etc.). This was an incident of workplace violence which has become sadly commonplace. The coverage was almost entirely local and lasted only a few days. The only followup item I found was the following month when the autopsy results were released. (For some reason many of the listings found in a Google News Archive search are displaying wrong dates - May 2011 (before the incident actually happened), February 2012, etc. - but the items are actually dated October 2011.) No lasting impact = no article. --MelanieN (talk) 23:16, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
• Merge' to the article on the quarry and expand coverage there. Superman7515 (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:35, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

• Merge to Permanente Quarry per above discussion. Candleabracadabra (talk) 18:31, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
• keep - per ongoing coverage evidence presented above. --BabbaQ (talk) 15:44, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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