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First televised speech in the UK Parliament

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The concept of television of parliament, and the fact of there being first televised contributions from Cryer and Gow, is noteable. However, the speech itself, in terms of its content, is no more noteable than any other (and much less so than many) in encyclopaedic terms. Kevin McE (talk) 17:02, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

• Delete - purpose of WP is not to catalog the first time things have happened. Well meaning article, but no sourcing to establish notability of the event ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 17:12, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
• Merge to Ian Gow, selectively. The text of the speech belongs on Wikisource, not in an encyclopedia article. What remains all boils down to a few sentences that could be added to the "Parliamentary career" section of Gow's biography. XOR'easter (talk) 19:55, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

@XOR'easter:: What about this speech do you believe should be added to Gow's article beyond what is already there? Kevin McE (talk) 12:51, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

This passage could be worked into the penultimate paragraph of the "Parliamentary career" section: Until 1989, television cameras did not show proceedings in the House of Commons, although it had been discussed eight times between 1964 and 1989. In 1988 MPs backed an experiment with cameras in the chamber, and 1989 Commons proceedings were televised for the first time on 21 November. MPs agreed in 1990 to make the experiment permanent. Despite his opposition to the televising of Parliament, Ian Gow delivered the first speech to Parliament, although he was not the first MP to appear on camera in the chamber, as Bob Cryer, the MP for Bradford South raised a point of order before Gow spoke. XOR'easter (talk) 20:00, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:14, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:14, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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• Merge and transwiki as above. This is the most significant content we have about the history of televising of parliament and the title is the first hit on google for several related search terms, everything else I've found is single sentences or bullet points in disparate articles (often tangential). Until someone writes an article or section, it's important that we retain something and merging to Gow's biography is a good way to do this. Thryduulf (talk) 10:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

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