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Japanese–Hungarian linguistic connection

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The entire text has major WP:SYNTH and WP:FRINGE issues, and the topic doesn't seem to be notable on its own. There are (outdated, afaik) hypotheses such as Ural-Altaic in which Japanese and Hungarian would share a common ancestor along with Finnish and Turkish and lots of other languages, but the current text fails to establish notability for a Japanese-Hungarian connection in particular and I would be surprised if such an idea were notable even as a fringe theory. Botterweg14 (talk) 22:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language, Japan, and Hungary. Shellwood (talk) 22:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. Comparing Japonic with Uralic, or Proto-Japonic with Proto-Uralic, would be a legitimate subject. In fact, this subject is already covered in Classification of the Japonic languages § Uralic hypothesis. But comparing Modern Japanese and Modern Hungarian directly, based only on superficial resemblances, as this article does, is not just fringe science (like any hypothesis that claims a relationship between Uralic and Japonic, including macrofamily hypotheses such as Nostratic – these are not demonstrably wrong, principally methodically nonsensical or not even wrong, but poorly evidenced, generally not accepted and even widely rejected) but flat-out pseudoscience, see Pseudoscientific language comparison (and indeed not even wrong, methodically ignorant and unacceptable). Anyone can do this with random dictionaries, and it proves nothing. As an illustration, you might as well compare Modern French with Modern Moroccan Arabic and come to the conclusion that they are related because of superficial typological similarities and shared words, but this would be obviously absurd because we know about the history of these languages and their ancient ancestors, which are attested meaning that we can compare them directly, were nothing alike. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. No WP:SIGCOV of the topic in reliable sources. The article has been marred from the start and still is with OR/SYNTH and misused sources that don't support the statements that they are attached to and that don't cover the topic of the article. There are certainly notable macro-family proposals (mostly of a fringe nature) that include Japanese and Hungarian, but for singling out specifically these two languages in a separate article there simply is no SIGCOV. –Austronesier (talk) 11:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Alternative theories of Hungarian language origins, per nom. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 22:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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